Best pass on my Hayabusa

[VIPER1]

I went to Maryland (MIR) this past weekend and made my quickest pass ever on my Busa.I went 9.08 @ 151.8 in the 1/4. Not too bad for a stock bore motor with a few tricks and 3.5" inches in the arm and I weigh 185#'s. Here's a pic of the Busa, and a beer run and fill up on the Fiddy's.

[WARLOCK]

Great run! Thats RIPPING!! Later, Dave

[triple dude]

That's honkin'!!!! What suspension mods have you done???

[VIPER1]

I have an extended gsxr 600 arm, I also have lowered but still have the stock shock.

[Jason Huber]

Next-stop; The 8's!! Ran into ex-V&H engine builder Rick Ward last night. His stocker is consistantly in the .30's. No arm, lowered, Shinko, treated track... Those things are fast! :cool:

[STV_Keith]

Nice looking rig! 9.0's is damn quick. My dad (Custom Performance 1 on S&F) runs a stock looking Blackbird that's turbo'd. Not knowing how to drag it, it went 10.20's @ 152 mph. No arm, setup for cruising (not strapped, etc). I know how fast that thing is...so if that Busa is running the same MPH, it's hauling ass!

[spn#43]

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
cool

[triple dude]

I have a turbo Blackbird also. Did your Dad build his?? Mines from Mark Moisen. Having a problem with the motor filling up with fuel. I'm thinking the fuel pressure regulator (after market) has gone crazy and is "blowing" fuel past the carb needles and it's backing up into the box and leaking down thru the turbo. I caught it in time but still had some fuel in the crankcase. Tring to get ahold of Moisen (American Turbo down in Florida) but can't seem to track him down. Has your Dad's ever done anything similar??? And you're right--they are awesome bikes.

[STV_Keith]

Yes, my dad's is a Moisan kit as well...actually, the first XX kit he sold. My dad has had the same problem you have. You want no more than 3/4# of fuel pressure. If you're over that, that's the problem. His was a bad regulator. Replaced it and set it at 1/2# and all is well.

You ever think of selling that 'bird?

[triple dude]

Thanks for the tip. You confirmed what several people thought. I have a one page road test out of an old bike magazine on those bikes. They said 215 HP at the wheel. Last year at bike week in Daytona, threw it on the dyno at the Horsepower Shootout. In stage 3 boost it was 230 HP so I think I got a good one. :D The guy who was MCing the event had rode it when Moisan built it. Had his wife on the back and noticed the toggle switches for the boost. Had no idea what they were for but flipped them and just about lost his wife. Moisan built mine for the owner of Aerocharger. We also put it on the simulated dragstrip. A couple hot Harleys were turning in the eleven's and figured the Blackbird should get into the nines?? First pass, it wanted to launch OVER the front wheel chock. Strapped it down some more and it turned an 8.55 at 160. Not hardly "real world" but it was still pretty cool. While down there I was also VERY tempted to buy the Corbin hardbags for the TOTAL sleeper look but at almost $1000 (with seat), it was a bit much. Haven't really thought about selling. Let me get it running right first and see if I'm still in love. ;) By the way, the Moisan magazine article said he sells a red X to go on the fairing next to the XX. I've talked with him several times down at Bike Week. He's always seemed to be a pretty friendly guy. He ran a Suzuki with turbo thru the horsepower shootout and cranked off 466 HP and that's a streetbike!!! :eek: He cautioned about blowing the turbo as Aerocharger runs hot and cold on replacement availability. They do government contracts for helicopter turbo's and the bike stuff is secondary. Thanks again for the tip regarding your dad's bike.

[STV_Keith]

Actually, Aerocharger went belly up about 2 years ago and parts are damn near impossible to find. I work closely with Turbonetics at work, so we are planning to find a replacement turbo for the Aerocharger that will work with the rest of the kit with as few mods as possible.

My dad's bike made 209hp on low boost (~6psi) and 259hp on hi boost (~9psi). My dad and Mark tuned/dynoed it at Marks' shop and he told him he was over the limit of the turbo. He's blown 3 up so far, but it's so damn much fun!

He did take it to the strip once...not much of a drag racer, but still managed a 10.2x @ 152mph. Pretty respectable.

[triple dude]

Thanks for the aerocharger update. It was about two years ago that Moisan told me to be careful. Sounds like your dad's REALLY has good numbers. Has he done any suspension mods to keep the front end down?? An extended arm would help but then the sleeper look is gone. The only thing that gives mine away is the round K&N poking out the bottom of the lower fairing. Later kits hid the air filter inside the fairing.

[STV_Keith]

Nope, dad's looks all stock (with the tucked in filter) and has a stock arm on it. He's got a 4" over arm hanging in the garage, but never put it on. SLEEPER doesn't begin to describe it. :D

[triple dude]

That dyno room photo almost looks like the room at MCI where they have the Horsepower Shootout at Bike Week?? There's been a few other guys there with Turbo Blackbirds. First time we had mine down there, my brother, racerx, still owned it. I was riding Old Reliable, my Kaw 750 factory turbo and our buddy Pete was along on his HD bagger. We went to the Shootout but it was late in the day and they were still setting up for the next day's opening. There were a couple Busa's there--one with pipe and the other with pipe and NOS. Both were owned by a couple young guys. The piped one did about 160HP, the other one got up to something like 185HP. The guy running the shootout told them to stick around and watch the numbers on that "old" Blackbird. It got up around 230 on pump gas. One of the Busa boys said to the other,"Yea, but it won't run with that old fart on it" and pointed over towards racerx. pete overheard them and replied,"How much you wanna pay to find out?" They left. One for the old guys. :D

[STV_Keith]

Actually, my dad has talked with your brother down there. Yes, that is AMI's dyno room. I have spent many a day there, back when they had a Dynojet dyno.

[triple dude]

It's a great place to hang out. I might remember your dad. Did he have a Corbin seat on his bike?? Another place we found last year (didn't go down this year) was the dragracing over in DeLand at the airport. They block off an old runway and just do old style drags. Flagman. Kids at the finish line to jump up and down to show who won the round. Great entertainment. Good mix of old and new. A guy on an old Kaw ZR1 dragbike was the underdog. He got everyone out of the hole but about halftrack the newer bikes would run him down.

[STV_Keith]

Yep, he has the gunfighter seat. That's him in the pic above on the bike.

[GP-1]

He tried to dragrace a turbo bike with a stock swingarm... and not even lowered? That's pretty tough.. YOu still might be able to 60' pretty well, but the 330 is gonna suck when the bike comes on boost. I have no idea how those guys run 7's on a 60" no bar bike...

[triple dude]

You're right. The turbo Blackbird is a wheelie MONSTER. When racerx still had it, he made one dragstrip pass. I think he turned 10.2 or 10.4. Said it was on the rear wheel most of the time.

[STV_Keith]

Nope, stock arm and not strapped. He kept short shifting until he got into 4th gear, then turned it on good. He's learned to drag it a bit better now, just from having more seat time.

It will power wheelie in 3rd on low boost and 4th on high boost. You have to throttle it to keep it from coming over backwards. He's also geared it up from 17/42 (stock) to 18/42, for more top end. Hits the limiter right at 200mph.

[triple dude]

More top end??? :eek: Your dad's old AND crazy!! :D Racerx had mine up to 190 and ran outta room. He said it still had "pull." All this bike talk just made me revisit the "old bikes" thread. :) By the way, if you're sitting around with nothing to do, check out an RZ 500 on ebay. It might still be on there. VERY trick and was bid up to $20K last time I looked. Has to be a record. GP1--What's the latest on Jason Huber?? I enjoyed the back and forth with him on the old bikes and gassers threads. Last time I was in Jasper, I was talking to a guy outside the hotel (the infamous Acuff Inn :eek: ) and it turned out to be Jason. Seemed like a genuinely nice guy. Hope he does well.

[STV_Keith]

Man, we really stole Viper's thread. Sorry about that Viper.

TD, it makes it more fun to ride really. It's not as wheelie prone and has plenty of grunt. Dad especially likes to beat up on the young guys with the R1's, GSXR1000's, etc that look at the "old man" on the "sport tour" bike. :D

[CUSTOM PERFORMANCE 1]

Alright, Keith is rite on the money. First off, my Blackbird is completely stock, everything with a Moisan turbo kit. You can't see anything except for a 3" half moon piece on the bottom of the left fairing. It looks completely stock except for a pipe. I did not build it for drag racing. We have actually ridden it in the mountains of Georgia and North Carolina quite successfully, that is how docile it is. The real fun is on the highway, 60 to 160 in about 4 seconds and no shifting til 160. The kids try to run and all they see is tail lights dissappear in a hurry, they do not understand. And their stuff is really fast! Nothing aspirated will run with it there, torque is really big, 160 lb/ft at 9 psi of boost on pump gas. Aerocharger works great, however it has a rpm limit which I have exceeded on several occasions with disasterous results, ie broke the bitch!!!
This is without a doubt the most fun on two wheels I have ever ridden and I have ridden quite a few! There is nothing like throttling the front wheel while holding on for dear life. BIG FUN

And for you boating boys, I am restoring a 16 Ally with a T2X. I am gonna try to set a new APBA SV kilo record when finished. Most of you younger guys probably have never seen one of these, they are really cool. :D :D :D

[STV_Keith]

There you go, from the horses....keyboard. :D

[triple dude]

Good to hear from you. Keith was kind enough to troubleshoot my Blackbird's "overfueling" problem based on your own past experience. Should be an easy enough fix. Just have to dig it out from under the garage pile. Didn't make it to bikeweek this year as racerx was busy buying a weekend getaway place and our buddy, Pete, sold his Harley and was bikeless. Really did miss attending and hopefully will be on track in 2006. What's the latest poop on Moisan?? Is he still in business??

[vwfreak]

I stumbled accross this crazy machine a few months ago, when a buddy and I were building up his 20hp mini chopper.
This crazy little machine is powered by a Rotax snowmobile engine. :eek:
Definitely the fastest mini bike I've ever seen. He even posted time slips from the track day too. :cool:
It's no 'Busa by any means, but extremely cool/crazy none the less.

vwfreak,

[vwfreak]

Here's a few more pics of the mini bike.
I think it was for sale on ebay?

vwfreak,

[triple dude]

That thing looks like it'd be a blast to drive!!!

[GP-1]

GP1--What's the latest on Jason Huber?? I enjoyed the back and forth with him on the old bikes and gassers threads. Last time I was in Jasper, I was talking to a guy outside the hotel (the infamous Acuff Inn :eek: ) and it turned out to be Jason. Seemed like a genuinely nice guy. Hope he does well.[/QUOTE]


He's doing quite a bit better. Turns out that no surgery will be necessary, so that's a plus. He might be getting out of the hospital today....

[triple dude]

GP 1- Glad to hear that. I've been dealing with Workers Comp cases for twenty five years. The rule of thumb is that if you have some back pain that can only be cured by surgery, live with the surgery. Too many doctors wanna start cutting and quite often the results are worse. Keith--I'm liking that sprocket change idea for the Blackbird. Especially the part about helping to keep the front end down. Too bad I can't use an old Norton or BSA sprocket. I've got a drawer full of those. More items to SOMEDAY put on ebay. :rolleyes:

[Jason Huber]

Thanx for the concern - I'm back @ work for a week-now & feeling OK. Maybe hook-up w/you again @ Jasper if I can make it. :confused: Hey, here's a question for you Turbo-Guys; What ever happened to Aerocharger? Did the go out of business?? Service parts availability??? I'm actually looking for one-of their Sportster set-ups for a Pro-Street ( I know... an oxymorone... ;) ) Buell X1 that I'm building. Any feedback?

[triple dude]

Glad to hear you're recovering. Missed seeing you at Lake Kosh. Your absence screwed up the schedule. They were gonna set up an obstacle course with you (in cast) as THE obstacle!! :D Per an earlier post by stvkeith or his Dad, Aerocharger is gone. I know up until a couple of years ago, they were struggling. I have no idea who or where to go to for parts. :mad: Mark Moisen (or Moisan??) used aerocharger turbo's and was with American Turbo down in Florida. I've never been able to find a website for them but I have a phone number at home in an old bike magazine with a roadtest on a turbo Blackbird. What are you messin' with a Sportster for?? Even with a turbo, you can only outrun other Harleys. ;) :D

[GP-1]

Yea... a turbo, long swingarm, nitrous, drag slick, etc...... and it'll still be your slowest motorcycle..


but it is LOUD...

[triple dude]

I think Jason just likes being the underdog. ;) As I recall, there were complete Aerocharger kits for Sportsters. Saw several on Buell's down at Bike Week over the years and they looked pretty neat. When I get home, I'll see if that Moisan phone number is handy but it might not be any good anymore??? It's probably buried in that pile of Hustlers, J.C. Whitney catalogues and copies of the Watchtower ( :eek: ) next to my bed.

[triple dude]

Here's the number for American Turbo Systems down in Naples, Florida. 941-403-0198. It's from a late 1990's magazine article and may not be any good. There's also Hahn here in the Chicago suburbs that does a lot of turbo bikes. I've always heard, though, that you have to deal with his "personality."

[Jason Huber]

...What are you messin' with a Sportster for?? Even with a turbo, you can only outrun other Harleys. ;) :D Thx for the turbo intel TD. :cool: I know, Sportsters are girl's bikes :o , but thats' EXACTLY why I'm puting this together! I've already done the mega-buck, BigTwin thing. Should be really fun roosting on all the dorks & wannabee's TP/Merch/S&S powered chopper-battleships!! A stretched, nitrous and/or Aerocharger enhanced Buell would probably be a pretty stout little ride, & I've got my hotrodded ZRX for anything more serious than that. Hmmm... Maybe I'll spray that while I'm at it. A 180hp Z-Rex might be kinda' cool! That Muzzy/ Gadson ZRX is one of my faves. :eek: ;)

[triple dude]

Sounds cool. If ya want to see MY kind of Harley (and it's a Sportster), visit www.mertlawwill.com. Old Mert, ex#1 National Champ is building a killer street tracker. It's hot!!!!

[racerx]

Jason i always thouht of sportsters as dirt bikes.....I think i am gonna pull my old RDDaytona special out of the shed this winter and let my old memorys come back have not started it in 7 yrs,but its my only bike left,Velocity turbo is making a turbo for the v rods that should run pretty good,glad to hear your doing better.jeff

[GP-1]

You're gonna try to start an old two-stroke that hasn't been running in seven years?? I can just hear the noise as you're kicking that thing over......

[Jason Huber]

Thanks Jeff! Heard' that you also had a near-miss @ Kosh. :eek: Was REALLY glad to find-out that you made it out OK! You gotta' give me some lessons on how-to ROLL upon impact!! ;) Be carefull on that RD - its probably peaky-er than the Gamma (?) As I remember - GP1's hopped-up little 350 Kenny Replica was a peaky, evil (re: FUN!) little bastard, & that 400 probably has even a little-more steam in it!! :D :D

[triple dude]

Jeff's had a string of RD's, Kenny Specials, etc. They always were a lot of fun, especailly with port work, big carbs and pipes. His Daytona Special was still pretty nice the last time I saw it with seven years of dust on top. It's got chrome (maker unknown) chambers. The Sportster talk had me strolling down memory lane too. I ended up being stationed while in the army, in North Carolina (home was Chicago area) and wanted to buy a "big" bike after previously having a string of Honda's. This was in 1970. My first thought was a new Bonneville but looking at the Sportster on the TV show,"Then Came Bronson" leaned me in that direction. At the time, either the harley plant or it's truckdrivers were on strike and deliveries to dealers were down to nothing. Dad found a same year used one with 500 miles on it so I flew home and drove it back south. The biggest problem was it's color--green. I was in the army and HARDLY wanted a green motorcycle. Shortly after, a buddy bought a new Honda 750. After driving that, weel, let's just say I sold the Sportster down there and bought a new Kaw 500 triple when I got home. That was my one and only Harley ownership.

[GP-1]

Wow... You sold an old iron Sportster for a Kawasaki 500 triple?? Hmm... Which of those was less reliable?? At least the Mach III would be interesting to ride. A friend of mine had a '69 sitting in his garage a few years ago -- might still be there, I don't see the guy too often anymore. I rode it 25 years ago and thought it was an evil-handling, semi-quick, no brakes (but not quite as bad as Jason's BSA) POS.. Now it'd probably just feel like a SLOW, evil, no-brakes POS. Probably has some value though..

[triple dude]

Never had any mechanical problem with the Sportster but was always leery of all the INTERNAL engine racket. Only problem I had with the Kaw 500 was the ignition failing while still under warranty. It wouldn't fire on all three cylinders. It was fun to drive, though, when the powerband kicked in. :eek: You are right about the handling and brakes. They were scary but most of the bigger Jap bikes didn't handle all that well back then. Took them a while to catch up to the Brits in that category. Old Kaw 500's bring some good money now, especially the 69's and 1970. My H2 750 is quicker but has a broader powerband and doesn't provide that "Hang ON!" factor.