21' tunnel hull w/ Mod VP 200 Merc for sale

[roosterds650]

This is "THRASHER". It is a 1981 true tunnel hull with a 1984 200 Mod VP ordered directly from Mercury Racing. Hydrolic steering, Manual jackplate, light weight cowl, adjustable trim plate, two bilges, two fuel tanks, Hot foot, Etc.. This boat is garage kept and starts with the first turn of the key. This boat comfortably seats Five and will run mid 80's in 2 foot chop. This is a very solid boat that is good for haulin A@# or haulin the family to the sand bar and beating your buddies getting there. price is 10,900. and comes with an all aluminum diamond plate tandom axle trailer.
Need the cash but will consider trades. Thanks Andy

MODERATOR EDIT: THE CONTENT OF THIS THREAD HAS OUTGROWN THE INTENT OF THE BUY AND SELL MARKETPLACE AND HAS BEEN MOVED TO THIS FORUM

[roosterds650]

Oh ya, That picture was taken yesterday in Stuart Florida. 76F degrees.

[GelcoatJoe]

rich ambrose, is orig owner of this nice boat, i remember wen it was brand new in 81....still looks nice...

[mobiletech1985]

for a 21 ft boat, this thing fly,s look at it, its almost all the way out of the water. And it sounds like a jet when it comes buy. Stuart is were we boat, on the weekends we have a hard time with are STV,s . Not with this boat he can run 80 gps. All day long . l sit in the river and see this boat come buy and all that comes to mind is WOW?

[Dean Dorsey]

would love to see another pic of this hull closer up. Thanks, Dean

[fastboat]

I would also like to see pics of the interior. I am very interested.

[motion]

Please send me some additional photos. I am interested. thanks

[Liberated 18]

I would also like to see pics of the interior. I am very interested.
Hey W :) ayne..you going to come out and play in the rough stuff?

[fastboat]

I have always wanted something bigger than my Daytona. This looks like it may be it. Are you coming to Augusta?

[Liberated 18]

I have always wanted something bigger than my Daytona. This looks like it may be it. Are you coming to Augusta?

Wayne..I have not decided yet..I will be picking up the Talon from Wally the 1st to 2nd week of March and bringing to the new lake home that we finally moved too in Ala. ;) ...don't know if I will want to turn around and pull it all the way back in a few weeks..may just stay here and enjoy our water..heck make me a offer so I dont have to come and get it.. :D

[Kineras]

Want it!
Pics also please including interior.
Hull make? Can this run 87-89 pump gas?

[action17]

please e-mail some pics of the interior and closer ones of the boat. [email protected] thanks Bobby

[Kineras]

Neglected to give my email.
Pics to [email protected] please.

[Matt Gent]

Use search term "thrasher" - there are other pics already posted on the board.

[Kavalk]

There are a few of these running around and were even produced (splashed?)
as a Cuddy Cabin (all kevlar) fishing boat.
A friend of mine had one (non cuddy) and modernized it by installing a 300 Pro Max, pickleforked the deck, and squared off the dash.
Ran high 90's and was the boat to run when it got too rough for the Euro.

[ProComp]

Is the boat your talking about a blue JONES Tunnel? Sounds like one that was in and out of Winnipeg and I heard the guy who owned it was from Vancouver. To my knowledge its sitting at a dealer in Winnipeg again with no motor.

B-RAD

[Kavalk]

That's the one!!
I'm not sure where he lives now and haven't seen Loius for a few years.
Did he ever run that in your area ?


Fred

[ProComp]

I knew the guy who had it when it was a DUCK BILL Front and it had a 2.5 on it. I have not seen it since it had been modified. Maybe I'll try to get a look and get a pic if its sitting where I think it is. Apparently is was great in the rough.

[Kineras]

Matt:
Thanks for the lead; saw that you considered buying it [Jones] in '93; so is Roostered still the same owner ?

[roosterds650]

Hey guys, Sorry I did not log in over the weekend. Yes. I'll snap some pics and send them to all of you. I'm not sure how many I am allowed to post on this thread but I will post as many as I can.
Kineras, As far as running 87 or 89 octane. I would never run that in anything that I cared about. Why take the chance of detination by saving a few pennies on the gallon. No I would not run less than 93, and just to be safe I even add a five gallon of 110 octane to every 15 gallons of 93 but thats just me.

[Kineras]

Roosterd: I am at a water access property and have to use the fuel available and it is only 87-89. One can run 87-89 in something you care about provided the CR is matched to the fuel. This boat was for sale in '93 and the prospective purchaser contemplated changing heads and lowering the CR. Apparently you purchased it sometime after that and left the heads as they were??

[roosterds650]

Yes they were changed to 120 CR so that you can run pump gas. I just always run more octane than needed. and I like the smell of 110 :D

[Kineras]

Sorry, meant 2003; did search on "Thrasher" per Gent and found a lot of info.

[Matt Gent]

I think the boat was sold once or twice in-between that thread and now. I've seen it for sale up in that area - since we looked at it the boat has been cleaned up, new (or painted) cowl, and new trailer.

It really is a cool boat, a change in financial situation prevented us from buying it.

[roosterds650]

I snapped some pics.

[roosterds650]

Heres an interior pic.

[roosterds650]

another pic

[berdes]

So thats what the Jones looks like all cleaned up - wish I still had a picture of mine when I bought it. Take a look at mine posted under 21' hulls, project boat. Thanx

[roosterds650]

It's still for sale, I will consider trades.

[motion]

I have a GMC AWD intercooled Turbo Syclone truck, I may consider. I have a soft spot for these boats my father still has a 1980 with a 500 bbc, speedmaster, 2 speed powerglide trans, way before its time.

[roosterds650]

Hey Motion, Email me some pics to [email protected]
Andy

[roosterds650]

No deposit on it yet!

[roosterds650]

Accurate; All the pics I have are posted on this thread. I can snap some more if you like. The boat is in Stuart florida. Where are you located?

[roosterds650]

Still for sale, I might list it in the boat trader unless any one is interested. I will sell just the hull if needed.

[bigalparts]

price for boat without power?

[roosterds650]

Already sold motor, Price for boat fully rigged w/ hydrolic steering and tandom aluminum trailer is $8,000 obo. Making a new thread.

[roosterds650]

This is a 1981 Jones tunnel hull w/ Hydrolic steering, Manual jackplate, adjustable trim plate, two fuel tanks, Hot foot, Etc.. This boat comfortably seats Five and has run 86mph with a 200 merc in 2 foot chop. This is a very solid boat that is good for haulin A@# and not getting beat up in the chop. I sold the motor already and now I'm selling the hull fully rigged with the aluminum tandem axle trailer included. Both the boat and trailer are in excellent working condition and have been garage kept. Price $8,000 obo Thanks Andy

[roosterds650]

Here are some pics

[roosterds650]

Price is down to $7,900

[roosterds650]

Make it $7800.00. I need the room.

[roosterds650]

Lowered again to $7700.00 I gotta sell it

[B. Vruwink]

Had the same hull in the 80's with a 2.4 Bridgeport. Awesome boat in rough water. Worked great for skiing too. Looks pretty. Funny why some were rigged with left hand steering. Or is your motor a LH motor??

[roosterds650]

Regular hydrolic set up. Your right about the chop. I would wait for windy days to take it out to make my buddy jealous in his Stv. (Im not stv bashing I have one too).


:D Dropping the price again to $7600.00

[roosterds650]

and again $7500. Hope someone buys it before I give it away :eek:

[roosterds650]

I will consideer trades????????

[jenksam]

Do You Have Any Inter. Pics.? I Am Going To Be Down In Lake Wells Florida On Friday 04/15/05. Would Be Interested In Seeing This.
Thanks
Sam Jenkins
Hm# Is 904 743 9729

[pantera24]

Please post interior pics and pics of transom.
Thanks

[mercstv]

boat is sold.

[djporter]

boat is sold.
how do you know that..... Just a question, maybe a new boat at hardy.....

[drasticplastic]

Yes/no? maybe if you get a 22 Talon!. Later,drastic.

[djporter]

only time will tell

[roosterds650]

Yes Guys, boat is sold.

[mercstv]

Hey Andy, got the boat all wheeled out looking good just need that steering? its on the way right? thanks again... :cool:

[mercstv]

This is a 1981 Jones tunnel hull w/ Hydrolic steering, Manual jackplate, adjustable trim plate, two fuel tanks, Hot foot, Etc.. This boat comfortably seats Five and has run 86mph with a 200 merc in 2 foot chop. This is a very solid boat that is good for haulin A@# and not getting beat up in the chop. I sold the motor already and now I'm selling the hull fully rigged with the aluminum tandem axle trailer included. Both the boat and trailer are in excellent working condition and have been garage kept. Price $8,000 obo Thanks Andy
sorry andy but read it!!!!!!! this is what I was to get not every thing but what you needed for your new boat. you need to make this right!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :cool:

[mercstv]

Already sold motor, Price for boat fully rigged w/ hydrolic steering and tandom aluminum trailer is $8,000 obo. Making a new thread.
make it right I need all the steering parts to make the steering work. you keep't parts and junked others! the boat was worth what I payed when it was complete and I taken you for your word when you sayed you had forgotten the parts and would send them. now I see why you left them home because you new I would not give you what you needed with parts missing. now you say it is up to me to make these parts? to bad?? well I say that I am very disapointed in you for not being truthfull. LOOK OUT FOR THIS GUY!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[roosterds650]

I sold the boat exactly as listed. I am sorry if you cannot figure out how to rig the steering. All applications are different when rigging a different motor to a different hull. But even still, The boat was completely rigged: including throttle cables, hydrolic lines, fuel lines, electrical and all. and I even threw in the whole steering bar that bolts to the motor.
Just be careful what you say and make sure that you know what your talking about before you type it. :)

[mercstv]

YOU LET ME KNOW!!!! THIS IS WHAT ANDY SAID IS A COMPLETE STEERING SYSTEM!!! :confused: BUT HE SAID I JUST NEED TO GET THEM MADE. WELL IF I KNEW WHAT THEY WERE BUT SENSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM IN MY LIFE IT SHOULD BE NO TROUBLE. :rolleyes: THANKS LETS TAKE A LITTLE LOOK AT WHAT YOU GET FOR YOUR MONEY FROM THIS GUY.

[mercstv]

YOU SAY BUT TOM WHY WOULD HE DO THIS??? :eek: :eek: ALL I WOULD LIKE IS A LITTLE MONEY BACK FOR FOR THE PARTS THAT I NOW NEED FOR THIS FULLY RIGGED BOAT. :mad: :mad:

[mercstv]

SO IF ANY ONE KNOWS WHAT GOES HERE SEND ME AN EMAIL PLEASE. :mad:

[mercstv]

I sold the boat exactly as listed. I am sorry if you cannot figure out how to rig the steering. All applications are different when rigging a different motor to a different hull. But even still, The boat was completely rigged: including throttle cables, hydrolic lines, fuel lines, electrical and all. and I even threw in the whole steering bar that bolts to the motor.
Just be careful what you say and make sure that you know what your talking about before you type it. :)
HERE IS A PIC SHOW ME THE HOLE STEERING BAR!!! THERE ARE A FEW PARTS MISSING TO BE COMPLETE. THERE WAS NOTHING DIFFERNT FROM MY MOTOR TO YOURS. ALL YOU HAD TO SAY WAS YOU NEED TO KEEP A FEW PARTS FOR YOUR NEW BOAT AND THAT I WOULD NEED TO MAKE OR FIND THEM. SO MAYBE YOU BETTER BE SURE BEFORE YOU START TO LIST SOMETHING FOR SALE AND SAY IT IS COMPLETE!!!! A FEW HUNDRED BACK IS A VERY SMALL THING TO ASK OF YOU.

[roosterds650]

I threw that in with the deal.
If you go back and read before you start yelling you might realize that I listed fully rigged for merc w/ hydrolic set up. And it is!!!!
Damn it sounds like you expect me to throw in the motor too!!

Not too worry though because I won't be doing any business with you any more. Oh ya and thanks for, after I trailered the boat all the way to Georgia for you that you didnt want to pay me our price that we negotiated on the phone and wait till I get all the way to Georgia and then you want gas money from me! At least I keep my word.
Beware of MERCSTV! His real side is showing and it ain't pretty

[roosterds650]

I threw that in with the deal.
If you go back and read before you start yelling you might realize that I listed fully rigged for merc w/ hydrolic set up. And it is!!!!
Damn it sounds like you expect me to throw in the motor too!!

Not too worry though because I won't be doing any business with you any more. Oh ya and thanks for, after I trailered the boat all the way to Georgia for you that you didnt want to pay me our price that we negotiated on the phone and wait till I get all the way to Georgia and then you want gas money from me! At least I keep my word.
Beware of MERCSTV! His real side is showing and it ain't pretty

[mercstv]

I dont need a motor just the steering as listed. and I think the pics show how honest you are! must be you cannot read! take a look! This is a 1981 Jones tunnel hull w/ Hydrolic steering funny it does not say most of the steering. and you still canot figure out why I am pissed?? I think the members on here can see who is being dishonest!!

[roosterds650]

Fully rigged and hydrolic steering means this is the set up I was running.
I dont know where you get complete steering system set up with all nuts and brackets and washers to work on MERCSTV's boat out of my ad?
Feel free to view all my threads and see if I ever stated a complete steering system with all necessary hardware complete with nuts and bolts comes with the boat.Guess what; Your wrong!
Check it out everyone. Look for your selves!!!

[roosterds650]

Good idea, let everyone read for them selves. The proof is in the text.

[mercstv]

well lets take a look frist the parts that do show up that are no good because you donot know what you are doing. the shaft that goes threw the swivel bracket is striped as showen in pic next the parts that bolt to the tiller are not there. I can get bolts its these parts that will be hard to came by. if you think I am crying over a few bolts you are out of your mind and the steering that I do have is no good without all the parts. all I asked for was a few hundred back for this problem.

[roosterds650]

I understand that you want more money to finish your boat. But dont come crying to me over some extra parts that I threw in with the deal. Now I wish I would have charged you for them. Boy you sure now how to show some appreciation for some free parts. :rolleyes:

[Bruster]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4544640618&category=50439&sspagename=WDVW :eek:

[mercstv]

why do you keep saying you threw it in? it clearly says with hydraucic steering. you just dont get it. all I need to finish the boat is what I paid for not all your lines of $hit. you are NOT a man of your word!!!!!!!!!

[mercstv]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4544640618&category=50439&sspagename=WDVW :eek:
do you know if this will work with a hynautic system? that is what I need. :o

[Bruster]

I am sure the Sea Star could work, I just don't know if this one is sized correctly. I'm sure you could determine by going to the manufacture's web sites and comparing displacements. The "Hoser" has the correct fittings. ;)


do you know if this will work with a hynautic system? that is what I need. :o

[mercstv]

thanks bruster.

[djporter]

Good idea, let everyone read for them selves. The proof is in the text.
I read it and agree with mercstv. You listed hydraulic steering not peices of hydraulic steering. Sounds like you are in the wrong. Be a man and make it right.

[djporter]

I read it and agree with mercstv. You listed hydraulic steering not peices of hydraulic steering. Sounds like you are in the wrong. I dont understand what the big deal is, you obviously have the parts to complete the hydraulic rigging. Be a man and make it right. Quit trying to slam someone else when that is how you listed the boat for sale.

[drasticplastic]

Where's the part that connects the slave cyl. to the steering yoke on the mid section?. I don't see it in the pics.

[drasticplastic]

The sea star vs. hynautic have diff. off sets in the pieces that connect thetilt tube shaft to the cyl. ram shafts. This changes the length of the "arm" piece that goes from the cyl. to the tiller arm on the mid. section. Look at the pics and you will see what I mean. If the sea star syst. had the one more piece that goes from the cyl. ram shaft to the tilt tube shaft it could be made to work. But this pt. is gone/not in pic. Plus you are buying diff. cyl etc. to replace what you should have got in a "with hydrolic steering" deal.

[mercstv]

I think they are seeing my point.

[10.5' Tunnel]

Hydrolic steering, Manual jackplate, light weight cowl, adjustable trim plate, two bilges, two fuel tanks, Hot foot, Etc
Already sold motor, Price for boat fully rigged w/ hydrolic steering and tandom aluminum trailer is $8,000 obo :confused: You'd think you would atleast be smart enough to delete these when trying to scam someone.

[Skittles]

I'm sorry but i am seeing it like everyone else..........it says "FULLY RIGGED WITH HYDRAULIC STEERING.........." not...........rigged with most of a hydraulic steering system. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Thats a load of B.S......:mad: give the man his parts or some money


P.S. with your attitude from this so far...........good luck trying to sell anything on this board from here on out........I can almost guarantee it wont happen.:mad:

[Trikki1010]

Fully rigged and hydrolic steering means this is the set up I was running.

Your terms and verbage indicate otherwise and misrepresent what you are stating. To ME, fully rigged AND hydraulic steering, DOESN'T mean, less the parts you needed for your new boat. If the shoe were on the other foot, maybe you'd be having a baby. :rolleyes:

I don't see MercSTV crying over money (nice stab at trying to turn the story, it didn't work) I see him upset over not being able to recognize what parts to make your "fully rigged setup" operational, or the complete lack of parts thereof.....

If that's not what you intended, that's NOT what you advertised. Pay the piper for false advertising :mad:

[mercstv]

Hydrolic steering, Manual jackplate, light weight cowl, adjustable trim plate, two bilges, two fuel tanks, Hot foot, Etc
that is another good one. he also kept one water sep and both bilges. these are things I can replace and will not cry over. I am just a little mad about the steering. thanks for the suport everyone. and I will count this as a leson learnd.

[drasticplastic]

Yes on the reason for anger. Ichecked on the price to replace the cyl. and the ness. stuff to hook-up to motor and it is almost $500 !. I hope he coughs up the parts for you or at least gives you some $ back. Exspecialy since he also kept those other parts(about another $100 worth). Good luck. Later,drastic.

[mercstv]

andy we still can work this out. all I need is right here as you can see I am not trying to rip you off. if you pay for parts and shipping I will be sure to tell everyone that you are a man of your word and you made it right with me. think about it and call me. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4544080373&category=31283

[at100plus]

Do the right thing or end up blackballed like this man who also decided he didn't have a responsibility to deliver a boat as advertised.

7700+ members have read this thread:
http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/showthread.php?p=653765#post653765

[Wolverine]

I threw that in with the deal.
If you go back and read before you start yelling you might realize that I listed fully rigged for merc w/ hydrolic set up. And it is!!!!
Oh ya and thanks for, after I trailered the boat all the way to Georgia for you that you didnt want to pay me our price that we negotiated on the phone and wait till I get all the way to Georgia and then you want gas money from me! At least I keep my word.
Beware of MERCSTV! His real side is showing and it ain't pretty

First,I'm still trying to figure out what point the Rooster is arguing about. Dude, read your own post above - it says fully rigged for merc w/ hydraulic set up. Well, I hate to burst your bubble, but a merc is what is being put back on the boat.
Second, you were paid $500 extra to drive a few hours to meet the buyer - so quit your whinning. He paid you more than a fair price for a 81' hull in the first place - regardless of condition.
IMO - you should be giving MERCSTV the $500 back so he can go buy the correct parts. You claim to have used some of the parts for your new boat, so obviously you won't be sending him those parts. Make it right and you can both be happy.

My last question for you, Rooster. Are you related to Mike Mullins? This sounds like the same kind of BS that he pulled with me when I bought a new Mirage from him that was supposed to be fully rigged. He even went as fas as to attach my new boat's iginition switch to the dash by taking two pennies and drilling a hole in each one and used them for a bracket. That's some pretty shady business. It cost me over $1000 to have it re-rigged with new harnesses, etc. He never made it right.
I hope that you are a better person.

[ken medendorp]

I threw that in with the deal.
If you go back and read before you start yelling you might realize that I listed fully rigged for merc w/ hydrolic set up. And it is!!!!
Damn it sounds like you expect me to throw in the motor too!!

Not too worry though because I won't be doing any business with you any more. Oh ya and thanks for, after I trailered the boat all the way to Georgia for you that you didnt want to pay me our price that we negotiated on the phone and wait till I get all the way to Georgia and then you want gas money from me! At least I keep my word.
Beware of MERCSTV! His real side is showing and it ain't pretty

I've have known MercStv for a long time now and he's not a ripp off. So where's the steering componet's

[roosterds650]

Mabye you not listening?
Mercstv after the deal for the hull was made asked me if I had any parts for the steering left over. I told him I had a hydrolic bar that came off my motor that I could not use. So I told him he can have it. Then after I sent it to him he turned into a D!CK
and Started bitching about it not having all the parts to work on his boat. This part was never part of the deal! If it didnt work he should have sent it back.

[roosterds650]

First of all Mercstv is misleading everyone. Every single thing,.. Bilges, one water sep. and steering bar was told to him not to be with the boat. and that is why I sold the boat for $1,000 less than 8k at7k to him.
The boat was fully inspected by Mercstv at time of delivery. I was there!
He picked the whole boat apart in and out right before me. Then after going through every nook and crenny he agreed to the deal.
After the deal for the hull was made MERCSTV asked me if I had any parts for the steering left over. I told him I had a hydrolic bar that came off my motor that I could not use. So I told him he can have it. Then after I sent it to him he turned into a D!CK and Started bitching about it not having all the parts to work on his boat. This part was never part of the deal! If it didnt work he should have sent it back.
Dont let him snow you guys over. Just stating the facts.

[drasticplastic]

So what you want us to beleave is that you were willing to sell the hull for $1000 less so you could keep a water separator a couple old bilge pumps and a steering bar!. Thats just crazy. Give him the rest of the parts or the $ to get them. And stop trying to insult our intelligence, we can read your ad/post, now give him what was listed in the ad and get on with your life.

[drasticplastic]

You had all the parts for the steering. At one point the boat was advertised as a running rig. Or was it running but it wouldn't steer?. Get for real, where are the rest of stv's steering parts?.

[Wolverine]

What don't you understand? The Hydraulic bar is part of that complete hydraulic steering system that was supposed to come with the boat. You didn't throw in anything from what I can see. Give the man his $500 back and be done with it. You still made out like a bandit for a 81' hull. Afterall, it's not a Skater or Eliminator - it was never in demand.

[drasticplastic]

AT100plus, I feel as you do, 650 should make this right. If he lost or broke the steering parts when he took the motor off he should replace them. Also it is a real good thing that you checked out the stuff on your boat. That is some super dangerous S#*t. I had a 24 skater and how they can go would have ripped that motor off/apart and the story could get even worse after that. Later,drastic. P.S. good luck in your quest for justice.

[Raceman]

I agree. The ad says "fully rigged", not fully rigged with stuff missing. If the steering is short parts, it's not fully rigged. The price of the boat, the gas or nothing else matters. He paid for fully rigged........................ send him the parts or the purchase price of replacements.

[Raceman]

Quote by Roosterd: "After the deal for the hull was made MERCSTV asked me if I had any parts for the steering left over. I told him I had a hydrolic bar that came off my motor that I could not use. So I told him he can have it. Then after I sent it to him he turned into a D!CK and Started bitching about it not having all the parts to work on his boat. This part was never part of the deal! If it didnt work he should have sent it back."

So lemme get this twist right in my mind................ Even though the boat was advertised as "fully rigged with hydraulic steering" in more than one ad, Merc STV agreed to accept it parts missing, then "turned into a dick" when he got home. These "left over parts" that you agreed to give him, at what point did it get to "I'm gonna give em to you and pay the freight also" out of the goodness of my heart????? Did you ask him to pay shipping at the time since they were a gift? If all that is true, why did the other guy suddenly turn into a "dick" after the fact????? All these details ain't addin' up, and if you look at the comments on all these pages, nobody else is buying it either.

In reality, one of two things happened here. Either you decided to keep some of the stuff after you made the deal, OR you have a different (and obviously incorrect) idea of what "fully rigged" means. In either case Merc STV didn't get what he paid for. I can't see anything he did wrong. Apparently nobody else here does either. You're the only person who can make it right.

[Raceman]

Why do we stick our noses in other people's business around here? It's the only way we can protect each other as a community from getting the short end of a transaction. By pulling together in trying to make people with lapses in judgement or integrity (hopefully temporary lapses) do the right thing, MAYBE we can somewhat minimize the risk of long distance transactions with strangers. Obviously it's to all of our advantage to be able to have the access of a nationwide pool of stuff related to our hobby, but when transactions go sour, the willingness to jump in the pool decreases and everybody loses.

[at100plus]

Mabye you not listening?
Mercstv after the deal for the hull was made asked me if I had any parts for the steering left over.

Why would he have to ask you for steering parts if it was "fully rigged with hydaulic steering"?

Why would you still have a "steering bar" if you gave him everything he needed to be "fully rigged"?

[at100plus]

Mabye you not listening?
I told him I had a hydrolic bar that came off my motor that I could not use. So I told him he can have it. .

Go buy a new motor, it does not come with a "hydraulic bar" (I think you mean hydraulic ram). Look at the brand of the ram, it will probably be the same as the steering helm. I'm sure it doesn't say Mercury.

[at100plus]

..........and I even threw in the whole steering bar that bolts to the motor.
Just be careful what you say and make sure that you know what your talking about before you type it. :)

It seems you are the one who doesn't know what he is talking about.

[djporter]

Make it right with mercstv after all you are the one that stated in your add that is comes fully rigged..... He is only asking for what you sold him.... Your a used car sales man well trust me it shows...

[mercstv]

andy we made the deal with all the parts not that you was doing me a favor by thowing somthing in on the deal to sweeten it up. like I knew you was not going to bring evrything. why do you think everyone reads it the same as I do? fully rigged! these are your words know stick to them. yes I got pissed when a few of the parts showed up and was damaged or missing. so I call you and you say thats it for parts. why did you not tell me this when we were face to face? now I am so far away that there is very little I can do. I will say it again all I need to go away is the parts that I should of gotten with the boat and I will stop and say you are a man of your word. but it seems that your word is not worth $200. in parts. you have to boat with the people on here they have seen the proff. do the right thing and get your respect back. I was happy with the deal as agreed fully rigged nothing more nothing less. you know my # or email me its the right thing to do!

[mercstv]

Go buy a new motor, it does not come with a "hydraulic bar" (I think you mean hydraulic ram). Look at the brand of the ram, it will probably be the same as the steering helm. I'm sure it doesn't say Mercury.
I can see you have bought a new motor in your life as I have as well and yes they come with no steering at all. one would think when you spend what you do to get on it would come with but it does not. thanks again for the support and telling him that I am not the crazy one here. I just hope he dose the right thing so we both may have a great summer.

[mercstv]

Why do we stick our noses in other people's business around here? It's the only way we can protect each other as a community from getting the short end of a transaction. By pulling together in trying to make people with lapses in judgement or integrity (hopefully temporary lapses) do the right thing, MAYBE we can somewhat minimize the risk of long distance transactions with strangers. Obviously it's to all of our advantage to be able to have the access of a nationwide pool of stuff related to our hobby, but when transactions go sour, the willingness to jump in the pool decreases and everybody loses.
I thank you for speaking up. this is the only thing I can do to him. he is to far away or I would be @ his door to get the stuff. most of the people I have done bissness with over the internet have been great but there is always a bad duck now and then.
and andy you did not drop the price a $1000. for me look at your last post you was at $7500 before I even called you. and no were does it say with the price going down that parts were coming off.

[Skittles]

but it is all but obvious that this JACKASS isn't going to do a damn thing. :mad:

Dont worry though..........what goes around comes around...and when the day comes that little rooster BOY wants to sell that lightning of his..........which is hard enough to do with a good reputation...............Roosturd will get his

[at100plus]

They don't even come with a throttle and shifter!



Good luck, seems people don't respond to reason lately. Todd Lamb could have gotten an attaboy for sending me a third of what it cost to fix his botch job, but he apparently needed the money more than he cares for his business reputation.

[at100plus]

and andy you did not drop the price a $1000. for me look at your last post you was at $7500 before I even called you. and no were does it say with the price going down that parts were coming off.

Good Point MercSTV:


Price is down to $7,900


Make it $7800.00. I need the room.


Lowered again to $7700.00 I gotta sell it


and again $7500. Hope someone buys it before I give it away :eek:

Man seemed pretty desperate to sell to me.

[godspeed]

i hate when this stuff happens people always gets screewed in deals with unrigged boats i read it and i would have thought all of those parts come w the boat because it is a unerversal fitting steering system its not like it is a tilt pin style that will seperate the engine from the clamp assemble just pull the part of the motor and send it and everybody will be happy or send funds to him to purchase the missing parts that complete a full hydroulic steering system for which was noted ..... OR JUST SPLIT THE COST W HIM

[mercstv]

I seen this ram on ebay is off an 86 and was going to but it but now I hear that the old omc's are not the same as the new mercs were it hooks to the tiller? but the 91 and newer omc's are the same. does anyone know so I donot buy the wrong one. thanks http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4544080373&category=31283

[djporter]

You should not of listed the boat as you did, you are in the wrong... Be a man not a car sales man and do the right thing.... I will agree your selling days on s&f are over, no one would be dumb enough to buy anything from you if this is how you are going to treat the problem... I hope your name is worth $200, if it is I feel sorry for you.....

[Trikki1010]

Why do we stick our noses in other people's business around here? It's the only way we can protect each other as a community from getting the short end of a transaction. By pulling together in trying to make people with lapses in judgement or integrity (hopefully temporary lapses) do the right thing, MAYBE we can somewhat minimize the risk of long distance transactions with strangers. Obviously it's to all of our advantage to be able to have the access of a nationwide pool of stuff related to our hobby, but when transactions go sour, the willingness to jump in the pool decreases and everybody loses.

Ain't that the truth RM :cool:

Pay up Roosturd :mad:

(Thanks Skittles :D )

[mr.clean]

stop being a punk! and do the right thing.

[Skittles]

beat you to it didn't I :D

[ken medendorp]

Good luck with this chump. I'll never do business with him

[at100plus]

Guess he's going to disappear and go sell prosthetic hips on eBay like Todd Lamb. Greed.

[drasticplastic]

I feel the same as raceman and you others if we don't stick-up for what is right for the good people and premise of this sight we can all fall victim to some scammer. r650 ya need to make this right. Your reputation and credibility should be worth at least a couple hundred bucks? don't ya think?. Other people that have been postin even know what kind of boat ya have . What type of a reception do you think you are going ta get when ya show up at the lake and these guys see ya?.

[drasticplastic]

At100 my grandma ain't gettin none of those lamb racin(loosely used term) hips.LOL.

[mobiletech1985]

l just got to this thread and l dont see the deal made online in eny post. What was the deal over the phone.

[Trikki1010]

l just got to this thread and l dont see the deal made online in eny post. What was the deal over the phone.

Well, your buddy Rooster says one thing, MercSTV says another thing. One sounds like backpeddaling, one is more lucid and consistant. :rolleyes:

Switch roles and read it and see what you would think ;)

[drasticplastic]

Yes just do something. Not just sittin there either 650, hopin this will all just go away. Ya just got $7k 2 weeks ago for the boat you could pay for the parts that you broke/lost.

[drasticplastic]

Yes, like Trikki1010 said. Mercstv says what is listed in the ad and many post. Even the one that states that the boat was sold. There was no complaints from the seller(650) or the buyer(stv) at this point in time. Mercstv was under the impression that some steering parts would be sent to him via mail. Everything still fine at this point. Then Merc gets this package and it doesn't have all the stuff and some that came is realy no dam good. S**t hit the fan and reasonably so. So 650 starts postin stuff but the stuff just doesn't make common sense. Maybe you can talk with 650 and point out that his reputation and credibility have got to be worth more than this to him and his friends. Thanks,drastic.

[mobiletech1985]

Well lm not taking sides in this but l was there when that steering bar came off and it would not come off . he had to take it to a shop to have it removed. that was well before the deal was made for mercstv. As far as l know that steering was parts after they got it off at the marine shop. So when Rooster said l gave that to him and lt was not in the deal, that Mercstv ask if he had eny parts for the steering rooster said yes, that was the parts he sent. So in the post of this is what you get for your Money, from this guy was (Bull) he would have never given that peace if he did not ask for them parts.

[mercstv]

l just got to this thread and l dont see the deal made online in eny post. What was the deal over the phone.
yes the deal was made over the phone. I will say it again I am very happy with the boat I looked it all over when I met him in florda everything was as he said. the only thing I have a problem with are the parts I was unable to look at. I told him I needed them and he said he forgot them and would send them. I could not stop the deal and say I will pick the boat up when I can see all the parts it was 2000 mile drive for me and he seemed very honest so I took him for his word. and I had no reson to think he would not send ALL the parts. what good would they be to him? so if his new boat needed a few parts to get running he should have bought them not steal them from the boat that I was buying as a fully rigged boat. when I called him about the parts he told me it was the first time he had pulled a motor and he damaged a few of the parts and the braket that goes to the tiller he cut and rewelded to work on his new boat and that I would have to have someone fab me a new one. well I am not running monster garage here and steering is very importend to me and to be safe. plus why go threw all the trouble to have them made when I can get replacement parts form the mgf. but I am sure these parts will not be cheap and I should not be the one to buy them remember I bought a FULLY RIGGED BOAT! I'm not looking for anything for free I'm not looking to beter my deal. I just need what I bought. so andy lets work this out. I just gave you $7000. you should have the money to get the parts. I'm not asking for new parts used is fine that is what I was to get used. it is still not to late I am still willing to work it out. just call me or email me this does not have to be this hard. tom brethauer

[mercstv]

Well lm not taking sides in this but l was there when that steering bar came off and it would not come off . he had to take it to a shop to have it removed. that was well before the deal was made for mercstv. As far as l know that steering was parts after they got it off at the marine shop. So when Rooster said l gave that to him and lt was not in the deal, that Mercstv ask if he had eny parts for the steering rooster said yes, that was the parts he sent. So in the post of this is what you get for your Money, from this guy was (Bull) he would have never given that peace if he did not ask for them parts.
show me where it said in his posts that some of the steering parts where damaged when they were taken off! do you want to look as stupid as andy? and I will tell you that he NEVER said anything over the phone about this. so tell your girl freind to step up and be a man! he made a mistake everyone does now and then. just do the right thing and count it as a learning thing (fully rigged means fully rigged) and if parts where damaged then the boat is not worth as much so he will have to take the loss not the unknowing buyer.

[mobiletech1985]

All im saying is $200 or $300 is nothing to make right. i think he would be glad to give you the money, but why if it was not apart of the deal. l just dont see him doing this for fun, thats just my two cents.

[mobiletech1985]

also l never said the steering was parts, l said when they got it off at the marine shop, l would have been just parts because it was damaged taking it off.

[mercstv]

Well lm not taking sides in this but l was there when that steering bar came off and it would not come off . he had to take it to a shop to have it removed. that was well before the deal was made for mercstv. As far as l know that steering was parts after they got it off at the marine shop. So when Rooster said l gave that to him and lt was not in the deal, that Mercstv ask if he had eny parts for the steering rooster said yes, that was the parts he sent. So in the post of this is what you get for your Money, from this guy was (Bull) he would have never given that peace if he did not ask for them parts.
the more I read the last line the more it blows me away. do you think I asked if he had any extra parts? why do you think I asked for them? how would I know he would not bring all the parts when I was only driving a 1000 miles each way. and when he said he would send the parts he also dinot say it would only be some of them for if this was the case the price would have changed that is why he left them at home so I could not look at them and see for my self. and he could get fuul price for the boat. so tell me again who is full of bull! :mad:

[mercstv]

All im saying is $200 or $300 is nothing to make right. i think he would be glad to give you the money, but why if it was not apart of the deal. l just dont see him doing this for fun, thats just my two cents.
so if 200 to 300 hundred is no big deal and would love to send it bring it on. it clearly was part of the deal why do you think I am making a big deal out of this. do you think I am doing this for fun? don't be as stupid as your freind!

[flatisfast]

i just sold my 88 eliminator with hydrolic stering and if i didn't send all the parts with the steering i would expect the buyer to have me by the short and curlies :eek: :eek:
that or get my name draged threw the mud on S&F either way doesn't sound like fun to me :)

[Skittles]

he's been doing it since he became a member here. I dont think I've read a single thing he has posted that hasn't been total B.S:mad: :mad:

[mobiletech1985]

If you would read what l said something is not right. You and him made this deal over the phone. So you and him know what you agreed on thats all im saying. lt just does not make cents, that my opinion, we all have one. l was not there when you got the boat from him or on the phone when you guys made the deal.

[flatisfast]

looks like r650 and mobilteck will have alot of beach to sit on , i know i wouldn't want to run with anyone that would pull any crap like that.

as for mercstv, i have boated with tom and his brother and i can tell you this, they are stand up guys and they would do anything to help, hell when my boat was having problems tom came over to help me figure it out. when it couldn't be fixed tom and his freinds up at hardy dam offered to put my and my wife in there boats for the day at no cost to me. they wouldn't even take gas money for the ride. mark and tom's reply was we were going up river anyway. now that is a hell of a person :) .

i'm just glad r650 does not live in mich. :rolleyes:

[mobiletech1985]

Skittles come on, l think this is sh#t two, but something is not right.

[Trikki1010]

Mobiletech,

There's no point in taking sides when there is only ONE to choose from. Sounds like your playing mouthpiece for your buddy, it doesn't work here :rolleyes:

If Roosturd KNEW the part was damaged OR missing, it SHOULD have been excluded and listed as such, also, the buyer should have been notified as such prior to delivery. His ad indicated that everything was ready for a merc to be strapped on and go to the ramp. :mad:

THIS IS NOT THE CASE

I still remember the "Stock" 200 STV that breaks 102 that you and your boy were flapping about, so if it's a silly $200 to $300 dollar fix, get the right parts and send them and next time DON'T FALSE ADVERTISE HERE ON S&F

Otherwise, don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya :mad:

[Skittles]

something is NOT RIGHT................. I just can't believe you two jackasses havent figured what it is yet. :mad:

[mobiletech1985]

Well as far as past post you and rooster have had it out, So how is taking sides, l just think there is something missing, and speeds or topend passes, has noting to do with selling of this boat. Rooster got two boats from s/f lightning and mirage, he knows how it goes.

[Skittles]

l just think there is something missing, .

THERE IS SOMETHING MISSING..................****IN STEERING PARTS.

[mobiletech1985]

Wow SKittles that did not take long for you to start with badass talk, its an opinion, know you call me a jackass, for having one. l said noting to you, or mercstv that has been negative about there person.

[mercstv]

Wow SKittles that did not take long for you to start with badass talk, its an opinion, know you call me a jackass, for having one. l said noting to you, or mercstv that has been negative about there person.
you have not said anything nagative? well you are saying that I am the one to change the deal, well that is nagative in my book! all that I am holding him to is his listing, and what we talked about over the phone. he even call to tell me the compass was gone from the deck so it would not be untold. he never said that some of the parts to the steering where gone or damaged. why because that would make the boat worth less. so he hid it till he had the money and I was 1300 miles away. that's my story and I am sticking to it! mobletech I just dont see where you think I am in the wrong. could you show me what makes you think that from my posts? or ask andy if he told me that a few of the parts were missing eather on the phone or face to face.

[mobiletech1985]

you have not said anything nagative? well you are saying that I am the one to change the deal, well that is nagative in my book! all that I am holding him to is his listing, and what we talked about over the phone. he even call to tell me the compass was gone from the deck so it would not be untold. he never said that some of the parts to the steering where gone or damaged. why because that would make the boat worth less. so he hid it till he had the money and I was 1300 miles away. that's my story and I am sticking to it! mobletech I just dont see where you think I am in the wrong. could you show me what makes you think that from my posts? or ask andy if he told me that a few of the parts were missing eather on the phone or face to face.
Look l told you l dont know what was said between you and andy, or what was talked about or what was agreed on. l just dot get it, he tells you about a compass on the front of the boat, but not about the steering parts that he has for that setup.

[Trikki1010]

Look l told you l dont know what was said between you and andy, or what was talked about or what was agreed on. l just dot get it, he tells you about a compass on the front of the boat, but not about the steering parts that he has for that setup.

I don't hear anyone talking tough, I hear people excercising their right to not have to deal with BS.......

Roosturd has spoken for himself, you have a different softer version. NEITHER TWO add up. Yours is actually worse, cause he KNEW it was broke, and still offered full hydraulic steering. Sounds like your a front man to me. It's easy to go over written text and try to figure out where you might spring a leak.:rolleyes:

I usually get that feeling when someone's trying to shylock me/us, I have that feeling NOW :mad:


MODERATOR EDIT: THE CONTENT OF THIS THREAD HAS OUTGROWN THE INTENT OF THE BUY AND SELL MARKETPLACE AND HAS BEEN MOVED TO THIS FORUM

[drasticplastic]

Mobiletech1985, as per your post #80 you were at the shop when the steering came off and stated "pretty much just parts" by the time it was off. Well then andy should have stated this when he re-posted the rig less engine. But he didn't he listed it as rig with hyd. steering etc.. It your post #83 you stated that you thought that andy would prob. give Mercstv $300 to settle this. So get off your computer call andy and have him do it. It is doing you no good to post on this thread trying to help him. It is makeing you look bad to. So help andy by encourageing him to send Mercstv $300 and put this B.S. to an end.

[Skittles]

Wow SKittles that did not take long for you to start with badass talk, its an opinion, know you call me a jackass, for having one. l said noting to you, or mercstv that has been negative about there person.

It has absoluetly nothing to do with badass, tough, or threatening talk in any way. This whole situation just doesnt sit well with me or many others. You 2 are acting like lying ass little punks and I/we dont like it. You cant even come up with one believeable reason as to why the situation is what it is. You say one thing.........he says another.......and the more you talk the worse you 2 look.

You say that past threads about top speed and such have nothing to do with this and I say bullchit............they have everything to do with it. Its like you and your boyfriend think that S&F is full of a bunch of dumbasses that will just believe anything you say. All of his (and your) posts have been bullchit and this one is no different, except it is worse.

You keep blabbing all this crap about not knowing what the deal was that they made on the phone and I say I could care less at this point. It makes no difference to me, because according to you, he has known that the steering was incomplete junk for some time now and he still called it complete in his ad. In other words he was planning on trying to screw whoever bought the boat.

I say you 2 need to grow up and he needs to take care of this or dont let the door hit you on your way out. :mad:

[djporter]

Mabye you not listening?
Mercstv after the deal for the hull was made asked me if I had any parts for the steering left over. I told him I had a hydrolic bar that came off my motor that I could not use. So I told him he can have it. Then after I sent it to him he turned into a D!CK
and Started bitching about it not having all the parts to work on his boat. This part was never part of the deal! If it didnt work he should have sent it back.
I dont know how bright you are, but read what you posted. I could care less if you had 100 extra parts you still miss led mercstv on your add... You are in the wrong so do get pissed at anyone but yourself you are the one that lied... And I would not be calling people names, because that will only show all what kind of person you are...GROW UP!!!!!!!!

[at100plus]

Looks like he's disappeared into Lamb Land.

[djporter]

Looks like he's disappeared into Lamb Land. Thats is best for all, I have read enough of his bs for a while, I am sure I am not the only one to feel this way...

[at100plus]

If you can't outsmart em, disappear.