Sea Star Pro Steering Systems! (Rick Racers)

[Howard Daenzer]

I talked to Barbara at Rick Racers today about a group purchase on the Sea Star Pro Steering Systems. They were selling the Sea Star Pro for $855.00 to Scream and Fly members up to two months ago and then Teleflex increased their prices. They are currently selling the system for $903.00. She told me if I had at least 3 orders we could get them at a group discounted rate of $840.00 shipped to your door. This kit has everything needed for the system including the "Kevlar" Hoses. She also told me that if we were to get more than the three orders, there is a additional potential savings depending upon the total number. Please let me know if anyone is interested.

Thanks,
Howard Daenzer

[Hot Shot Merc]

How much extra for the tilt helm version of the sea start pro with 16 ft hoses???Thanx ,Rob :)

[Howard Daenzer]

Rob,
I'll forward your question on to Barbara and hopefully she will respond. If she doesn't post something soon, I'll give her a call.

Thanks,
Howard

[Rickracer]

The price is based on the HK74XX kit, which is the standard Pro helm, the HC5345 cylinder, XX denotes the Pro Kevlar hose length, and 2 quarts of Sea Star oil. The price is somewhat negotiable (with our supplier) based on volume, so let's get an idea of how many players we've got, and we'll start negotiating. :cool:

[Hot Shot Merc]

Whats the difference between the 5358 and the 5345 ram????They both say 1500 psi.I was wondering because of a discrepincie with a system that I baught.Thanx,Rob....Oh ya and the price with a tilt helm instead of regular...

[Rickracer]

....Johnson/Evinrude:
1998 to Date 40-140 4-stroke
2000 to Date 115 HP Ficht
2002 to Date 200-225-HP 4-stroke

Merc/Mariner:
2002 to Date 225 HP 4-stroke

Suzuki:
1998 to Date 40-140 HP4-stroke
2003 to Date 90 HP 4-stroke

And Yamaha:
1997 to Date 80-225 HP 4-stroke
2000 to Date 150-250 HP DI
2002 to Date 300 HP DI

The HK74XX kit does not come with a tilt helm at all. It must be purchased separately. Every once in a while we have talked our supplier into "upgrading" a kit to the tilt helm, or a different cylinder for the additional cost of the difference in helm or cylinder prices, but we definitely can't count on that. I hope this helps clear up the confusion. :cool:

[Hot Shot Merc]

I'm not sure what to do.I might get the kit with the regular helm and order the tilt and then sell the standard one.Rick ,Give me a price on a tilt helm please.Rob

[95RapidRiot]

You can count me in as one of the buyers! Just let me know when I need to give RickRacer the money!
THANKS!!!!!
:D

[Hot Shot Merc]

Is that price with tax included.If not whats the total cost including shipping? :)

[Ospreyproduction]

The price is based on the HK74XX kit, which is the standard Pro helm, the HC5345 cylinder.....

I was recently informed that the new HIGH PERF Cylinder is the 6345. The 5345 is the same unit that goes on a bass boat. The 6345 is supposed to handle surface piercing props. Anyway, that's what I put on the Euro.

Is that right RickRacer???

[Rickracer]

The price is still negotiable based on the number of kits. This link will show the difference in price (at retail) between the two helms: http://rickracers.com/index.php?cPath=124_343_629_830 (http://rickracers.com/index.php?cPath=124_343_629_830) . :cool:

[Rickracer]

It was developed for better "feel", and tighter steering response. :cool:

[white03]

I could get the 5345 cylinder upgraded to the 6345. What would the cost difference be for the kit with an upgraded cylinder?

Also I would need a wiper style trim switch..right?? I have an Allison with the trim on the wheel now (as it came from the facory).

And I would also need a new steering wheel or an adapter for my current Allison wheel..right? Do you sell either or both of these Rick and if so what's the cost?

Is there anything else I would need to complete the installation???

Lots of questions..many thanx for the answers!! :)

Bill

[Rickracer]

...don't know about the price yet. If you have the original Allison/Merc dual cable system, it's most likely a modified RideGuide, and wouldn't work on the Teleflex system without an adapter. Depending on the wheel, a hub or adapter might be available, but using the trim switches wouldn't connect the same way because the way the wires originally go through steering shaft,which isn't possible with a hydraulic helm. So a different wheel is definitely in order. Teleflex recommends a wheel with "equidistant spokes". The MOMO Ponza wheel from Livorsi is a nice one. I'd post a link, but our site seems to be down at the moment for some reason. Here's a link to that wheel on Livorsi's site: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/momo.htm .The blinker style ProTrim switch (single, or dual for those vessels with a jackplate) works great as a economical replacement. Most folks with switches on the wheel are loathe to give them up, but once you've used a ProTrim, they get pretty comfortable for a lot of users. Also, relatively new on the market, and a bit more expensive, Livorsi has a wireless trim switch system that can be installed on any wheel capable of acommodating a 5/8" hole in the spokes. It can control up to 8 functions, (I.E. trim up, trim down, jack up, jack down, and 4 others). We will do our best to accomodate any and all interested parties. :cool:

[white03]

Let me know the price with the improved cylinder that will fit a 1996 225 Super magnum

Bill

[gfinch]

Rick, is the Allison cylinder a universal or make specific. I bought a complete system from you just before the allison cylinder was aviable. Is there one for a 1991 200 Johonson?
Thanks
Gary

[BathTubBabe]

I placed a call checking on some pricing with the different cylinder and tilt helm. I should hear something back tommorrow.

[Rickracer]

You just made the break, :D . The HC5345 and HC6345 will fit 1991 and up 40 through 250 HP Johnson/Evinrudes. :cool:

[white03]

Rick...any prices yet??

[95RapidRiot]

Rick what length hoses will I need for an STV MOD VP?
THANKS!!!!
:D

[Greg Moss]

I'll sell anybody a pro system with 16ft Kevlar hoses for $850 plus frieght no special purchase needed. 14 ft hoses will be a little less 18 ft hoses a little more. mailto:sales@gregsboatparts.com or call 281-457-5521 If no answer please leave a message I'll return your call ASAP Thank you

[BeeteamKY]

Is this still in the planning and questioning stage or do we have prices and enough people interested to ahead with it? I'm in for the right price but I want the HC6345 cylinder. What length hoses do I need for a 1999 XB-2003 with a 225 Pro Max?

[BeeteamKY]

I need the entire system. The HC6345 cylinder, hoses, and whatever else I may need for the installation. Whats the price for all of that? I am checking on what length hoses I need with a guy who just changed his over.

[BeeteamKY]

I'm in. I will call Wednesday to order.

[BeeteamKY]

Barbara, do you know what day my steering will ship? Come on guys, if you want this steering system, give em a call!!!

[BathTubBabe]

I have been working on getting us some better pricing.

Seastar Pro with kelvar hoses: 840.00

Seastar Pro with upgraded Cylinder (Allison) (6345) and kelvar Hoses: 879.59

Seastar Pro with Tilt Helm and Kelvar hoses: 1,035.00

Seastar Pro with Tilt Helm and upgraded Cylinder (Allison) (6345) with kelvar Hoses: 1,055.00

*If you have a Seastar Pro and just want to do a upgrade:
Cylinder: 425.00
Tilt Helm: 510.00

This is a special we are receiving for a limited time. Please contact us by email/phone for this rate. I don't have this special on the website.

[RSM]

What lenth hoses are the PRO kits priced for? THANKS

[Howard Daenzer]

I'm in Barbara,
I'm interested in the Allison Cylinder System. I'll get back to you with the hose length that I'll need.

Howard Daenzer

[BathTubBabe]

This pricing is for 14 through 18 length Kelvar hoses :)

[BathTubBabe]

ok Howard :)

[BathTubBabe]

Trying to keep this in today posting :)

[KOODAT]

Looks like I may be a bit late. Looking for entire system for my 20' Hydro Voyager XT. Would like the 6345 cyl. and I think I need 16' hoses.

What is current status?
Tom D.

[BathTubBabe]

Tom,


We are still running the special :) 879.59 with the allison cylinder

[Air Dog]

I am in a bit of a bind and was hoping you could help me out.

I traded my V6 Mercury 200 outboard for a V8 Johnson 300. My Hynautic K-10 cylinder went with the merc since it would have needed to be cut off.

If I bought a HC-5345, would it fit my Hynautic helm?

How much is just the cylinder?

Would I keep my resevoir with the air valve, or would that be eliminated?

Thanks for any help.

[nelsoncat]

Are these prices still good and what would be the best combination on an STV? The allison cylinder or not?
Craig

[baja200merk]

I am in a bit of a bind and was hoping you could help me out.

I traded my V6 Mercury 200 outboard for a V8 Johnson 300. My Hynautic K-10 cylinder went with the merc since it would have needed to be cut off.

If I bought a HC-5345, would it fit my Hynautic helm?

How much is just the cylinder?

Would I keep my resevoir with the air valve, or would that be eliminated?

Thanks for any help.

i know you have to make shure the flow rate of your helm and what the cyl requires is the same...
hope this helps

kevin

[BathTubBabe]

Craig,


Yes, this pricing is still current. The allison cylinder is what they call a high proformance cylinder.

[nelsoncat]

What do I need to do to order a pro setup with the allison cylinder to get the group price. I'm assuming its not on the website?

Craig

[Rickracer]

...you can email sales@rickracers.com or call. If she doesn't have your current info, it would be easiest/best to call. :cool:

[nelsoncat]

How do you tell the difference between Kevlar hoses and standard hoses?

Craig

[Rickracer]

.....the Pro hoses say "Pro" on them, and "1500 PSI". We've never sold any standard SeaStar hoses so I don't really know about them. :cool:

[nelsoncat]

O.K cool! I just had visions of Kevlar hoses being orange and saying "Kevlar" all over them!
Craig

[nelsoncat]

I received the allison cylinder yesterday, it was the last component I was waiting for. I read and re read the instructions and am a little confused on a couple things.
1. do the hoses come straight out of the helm, or are there supposed to be 90 elbows(none were included) to aim the hose towards the starboard side

2. there is a protective covering on one end of each hose. Where does this end go? Helm or cylinder?

Everything looks awsome, I just want to make sure I have everything so I can install after Thanksgiving day and then hope the water thaws for one last blast to try it out this fall(ain't looking too promising though)

Craig

[BathTubBabe]

craig,



Rick will see this post this evening and get back with you.. I just wanted to let you know it was seen... :)

[Riverman]

Just wondering, will the Allison (upgraded) cylinder fit an 80's 140 Johnson?

[nelsoncat]

Thanks Barb

[Rickracer]

Craig, the hoses come straight out of the helm forward then turn, and the strain relief goes to the engine/cylinder end.

Jeff, unfortunately, they don't have a high perf version of the HC5348 (it would be an HC 6348 if they made one) cylinder yet, which is the one your motor would need. '91 and up 40 thru 250 can use an HC5345, though, so you might be able to either switch some parts around, or drill your tiller arm to fit it. :cool:

[nelsoncat]

Thanks Rick,
one last question, the fittings on the cylinder point to port, the helm is starboard and the hoses will be run along the starboard side. Do the hoses need to loop across the transom and bent back to the fittings or do the fittings need to be turned 180. I thought I read in the instructions that the fittings were not to be touched.
Thanks for all your help,

Craig

[Rickracer]

but lots of people do anyway. I've not heard of any problems doing it. :cool: