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SAMMYBOY
12-30-2004, 02:00 PM
I have a question, I'm rebuilding a 96 2.5 Mercury, I'm using new pistons and rings from ProMarine kit #2500P&S.
I'm using an old piston with an old ring as described in the manual to push the new ring 1/2" into the clyinder square to determine the ring gap.
In the one clyinder which has a new sleeve the gap is at the top end of the spec - .025, all the other clyinders are in the .026 - .029 range. This is a fishing motor and longivity in more important than squeezing horsepower.
I have not personally mic'ed each clyinder (dont have an inside MIC, but the machine shop that I used said all the holes are within specs. I did mic each piston as describe in the manual, I'm within the spec for the pistons.

Is the ring gap range of .026 and 0.29 ok? If I installed them using the .026-.029 gap would this create a higher than normal reading during a leakdown test? Wouldit be better to use .010 oversize rings and file them down to spec of .018-.025?

Thank You for your replies..... :)

Propelled Marine
12-30-2004, 02:33 PM
Pro Marine recommends 4 to 5 thou. for each inch of bore.

TB21
12-30-2004, 05:52 PM
If its just a lake running or fishing engine just put them in and run them as they are they'll be fine.........on a race engine i'd run .004" per inch of bore diameter for the top ring and .0025" on the bottom ring because it see's way less heat than the top ring . And when custom file fitting over size rings don't forget to check the locater pin gap for clearance for it can be very mean to the locating pin. TB

Superdave
12-30-2004, 07:09 PM
Be sure to remember to use a small hone to remove all the sharp edes from the ring ends. If you don't the burrs will cause a groove in the cylinder. Also, if you use a 0.010 over ring in a standard bore the ring will have more tesion, or pressure on the cylinder walls, wears out a cast iron sleeve.
Dave ;)

Jay Smith
12-30-2004, 07:31 PM
Thats a pretty wide gap Sammy if the bores are not too big due to excess honing or wear! I like .018" to .020" on race motors ( nicom ) and no more than .025" on steel . Might be ok but sure seems wide to me !

Good luck,

SAMMYBOY
12-30-2004, 08:11 PM
It sounds like the general consensus - the gap of .026 - .029 is a little too much.

When I started this project, all but one clyinder had the factory cross hatch which I assumed (you know the saying) the clyinders where in good condition.

It sounds like I need to get some facts, as of this posting I'm guessing the holes are within specs.
I will bring the block to the machine shop on Friday and see if I can get them to measure each hole. I will report back the findings.

Thank You all for your input and have a wonderful and safe New Year. :)

Superdave
12-30-2004, 10:32 PM
The bore is worn out or tapered. Be sure to have them check several places in each cylinder.
Dave

SAMMYBOY
01-06-2005, 09:01 PM
I had the machine shop measure each bore at mulitple locations.
Here is the data (spec = 3.501):
1 3.503
2 3.504
3 3.503
4 3.504
5 3.503
6 3.501 (new sleeve)

ring gap in clyinders (spec -018-.025)
1 .028
2 .029
3 .028
4 .029
5 .027
6 .025

Once again, clyinder 1,2,3,4,5 still had the orginal cross hatch honing.
Here are the recommendation:
Machine Shop - No problem - use them
ProMarine - No Problem - use them
Racer Rick - No Problem - use them

I'm going to run'em with this gap..... I hope I dont regret this decision.
I update the board with leakdown and compression results.

Thank You all for response!!