View Full Version : 13' ally w/ 200 Merc???
C. Phillips
06-24-2004, 08:40 PM
What ever come about with that beast?
steve
06-24-2004, 10:35 PM
broke in 1/2 or sank. Thats like a big block chevy on a skateboard. ;) :eek:
wing nut
06-24-2004, 10:44 PM
he got mad when he saw a 14ft stream with only a 150 is goin faster then him:) j/k it looks like it was a pretty cool boat, just didnt like the long shaft on there..
scott
steve
06-24-2004, 10:51 PM
You got some cool 14 ft'r there with that 12" mid. That was a great idea. Does it swamp when you slow down or is it tall enough to keep the water out? Ever thought of using the 1.78 gears on it? With that light of a hull I would think the 1.78 would be a better combo for it. Must be a rocket. :cool:
wing nut
06-24-2004, 10:59 PM
i dont wana hi-jack this thred but im working on finding some 1.78's also its got enough power that i can slow down slow WITH my 180lb dad in the back seat and still keep the motor kinda dry:)
scott
Scream And Fly
06-24-2004, 11:56 PM
Hey Scott, here's someone in your own league: 13' Rapid Craft Cyclone with a 225 Pro Max SS.
I saw this on Baker Marine's website a few years back.
Greg
thaw ripper
06-25-2004, 12:35 AM
:cool:
Matt Gent
06-25-2004, 08:02 AM
What exactly is the advantage, other than trying to look like a racer, of the short mid on that rig? If its not a circle boat lowering the block won't gain much performance wise, and seems like a big hit in practicality for trying to keep the engine dry. Maybe some aero help by reducing the frontal area also, but that boat doesn't have a cowling anyways.
Scream And Fly
06-25-2004, 08:06 AM
The Champ midsection is much lighter than a standard midsection - even a 15-inch one. And in Scott's situation, he needs all the weight savings he can get. LOL!
Greg
wing nut
06-25-2004, 09:20 AM
champ mid (with manual up/down) wieghs 61lbs with the trim ram and bracket.
the trim alone on the the 15 or 20" motors weighs 75lbs+ the adapter plate and can its well over 120lbs
scott
Georgia Boy
06-25-2004, 09:32 AM
I believe the guy posted some pics of the boat running and a video or two if I am not mistaken, do a search you should be able to find it. I saw the pics of scott's boat and looks like quite a radical ride.
I am not meaning to step on any toes when I ask this, I am just curious, but how come when some people over power a small hull, like in the case of the 200 on the little ally, or whatever it is, everyone automatically starts dogging them about they are rediculous, will never work, etc... I know when i posted about a friends 14ft ally with a 2.4 everyone basically said that it would not work, even when I posted pics I was still questioned by some. Just curious as to how do you determine what is foolish and what is cool? like I said not trying to piss anyone off, or be negative, was just curious as to what I keep seeing from thread to thread, and wondering about. ~GB
wing nut
06-25-2004, 11:32 AM
i think its a bunch of things.. most people will say it will sink, wont handle worth a sh!t, its not safe etc etc. etc...
its also about the setup, if you just throw the boat together it will be really dangerous. but if its set up well its pretty driveable.. in my case i was really lucky that ronnie helped me out ALOT on this project and made sure everything was done the rite way so i dont kill myself.
scott
steve
06-25-2004, 03:01 PM
Being a foot shorter and having the stock mid with all the extra weight is what I was getting at. The boats attitude when on plane would be far from balanced and much harder to drive. Swapping to a 12" mid on the Ally would definitely be much better. Plus with a 20" mid, all the center of gravity is way up high trying to move that little hull all over the place! The foot makes a bigger difference going from 14 to 13 then from 20 to 19ft IMO. At some point you have say " is this safe "? rather then how fast can I make this little rig go. The 12" is a big step in the right direction towards more speed and better safer handling. ;)
BLUElixir
06-25-2004, 03:53 PM
What ever happened to the guy that was goign to put twins on a STV? I think it was last year sometime???
Ted Stryker
06-25-2004, 05:21 PM
I got a 15' or 16' (can't remember which) Allison splash that weighs 350 lbs. I had a 20" modified 2.5 on it , and it drove fine.. I could be running along at any given mph. and turn the engine off and it would not backwash at all.. I know the boat in question is smaller, but I think possible with some good caution and a practical mind.. Oh yeah, I do have a stern warning.. My boat and undoubtedly yours will blow over alarmingly , surprisingly , instantaneously , abruptly , unexpectantly , catasrophicaly , or as my uncle would say " quicker than a cat will lick it's a$$ " etc...:)
Ally 1988
06-25-2004, 11:08 PM
Boats can be 3 things 1st boat 2nd Airplane 3rd Submarine :eek:
Ive seen Ronnie's Little Hydrastream and if you have ever had the pleasure of seeing Ronnies boat you just know wingnut will be just fine.:D :D
Merc-Cruiser
06-26-2004, 11:20 AM
WOW! What prop was used? M/C
Ted Stryker
06-26-2004, 06:43 PM
Was that question for me?
wing nut
06-26-2004, 10:26 PM
if you mean me so far the best prop has been the 32 lab cleaver spinning at 7100rpm with a 2:1 case and bobs cone, at 93.1mph. its got plenty more left b/c its so rich though so hopefully high 90's in a couple of weeks:)
scott
C. Phillips
06-27-2004, 03:56 PM
No worries WingNut about hi-jacking my thread, perfectly fine. Rember when Filter was putting that 300Rude on a Virage or one of those boats?
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