Out board drags in Florida

[Hot Shot Merc]

Ron Baker was at the RBR promoting his Season of 12 outboard drag races to be held at Cresent City this summer.I was very interested to know how many of you Florida guys would be into this?They will be running on thursday nites and on Saturdays as well.The fee will be $50.00 per class and a small fee for membership and insurance.Mr. Ditto has come up with class rules with the help from Jack Barsh from Full Throttle power boats.There will be four class's that range from mild to wild.I have the rules as they have been written for now and a schedule of events.I think that there are a lot of you out there that have verey competitive boats for this and dont know it or have never given it enough thought.All you need to get started is a 22 or 24 Yammy prop and a good LifeLine race jacket.Ive been Drag raceing for four years now around the state and have had a great time doing it.You should give this a try,its a blast.Maybe Ron Baker will see this and post some more info about this season.Your comments and questions are welcome.Rob Lankford

[Scream And Fly]

Rob, does this mean they will have a class for my Carolina Skiff?

Just kidding. Sounds great though, keep us posted.

Greg

[Big Man]

Greg,
What Skiff do you own. I have the 16 DLX with a 50 Honda four stroke. Great little boat. I think the Honda motor actually makes fuel! I wish the 16 footer was rated for 75HP, I think it would handle it just fine and would perform much better. Maybe we can race for a beer sometime!! Gary

[Hot Shot Merc]

Yall are allways wanting to race eachother on the lakes and rivers so lets see how bad ya really are:eek:Its also much safer to race under the supervision of professional divers and rescue personel.I like the the prize money and the trophy's myself:D

[RRRevinrude]

when/where....i'll go

[Big Man]

Sorry Rob! Did not mean to screw up your thread. Just messing around with Greg a little. Good luck with your racing. Gary

[Scream And Fly]

Okay, I'll go.. .Why not, right? What do you think Rob? But, I'll do it for fun and photos : )

Lamar, let's use this as a photo platform!

Greg

[Hot Shot Merc]

Thats cool dude,just wanted to stay on the subject cause sometimes things can go astray around here.Greg, That would be cool if yall come to some of or all of these races and shoot photos.But if you want your boat to run ya gotta let me drive:eek: .All kidding aside there will be 14 races at Crescent City and 1 at Palatka.If any of you are interested here is Ron Bakers #Baker Marine Support 386-698-3938.You can request a rule book from him.I'm sure he would be happy to mail them out.Hopefully he will post them on this board for all to read.Here are the dates.(June 3 thurs nite)( June 12 sat )(June 17 thurs nite)(June 26 sat)9July 1 thurs nite)(July 4 sunday at Palatka)(July 10 sat)(July 24 sat)(Aug 5 thurs nite)(Aug 14 sat )(Aug 19 thus nite)(Aug 28 sat )(Sept 2 thurs nite)(Sept 18 sat)(Oct 16,17 sat,sun)(Nov 20 sat eve is the year end high point banquet- location to be announced)...............This is the 2004 race schedule for ....FAST BOATS INC.OF FLORIDA......Come on guy's lets play.I wont be able to make hardly any of the thursday nite races but will make some of the saturday events.

[RNM018]

Rob , Whats the story with pay out & trophys . Will there be any , or just more discounts to next event . Would sure like to play with those north fl. boats some more . It seems like it's been a life time sense I've had the chance to run with Sam Jenkins and his OMC . He's always fun to play with , almost as exciting as you are . Saw Sam heading to that race we ran last year on my way home saturday . Almost went back for sundays race just for him . Anyway I'll try to make some saturday races to help the sport . What are the race times for the saturday events ? Rich Martin RNM018

[Hot Shot Merc]

I dont know much more about the races time and all that.I saw that guy run that sunday but didnt get to run him myself.I was told that he was going to beat my ass but we never got paird up.:D You will have to call Baker himself to get more details.There is a race there next week though.:cool: Help spread the word Rich,

[Wile E. Coyote]

This is a great forum to put the word out. Somebody please post a link to, or the information of (rules would help too) of the races.....dates, times, prizes (if any), fuel, oil, all that other crap.....I actually might be interested in participating :eek:

[Hot Shot Merc]

The # to Baker Marine Support is386-698-3938 Give him a call.That would be cool to see your boat dragin.:D

[Sam Baker]

I'm trying to help my folks out with this from Illinois, but here's the latest that I know.

There will be a website with all the information. It will be www.fastboatsinc.com - however, I just ordered the hosting and name, etc. tonight (Tuesday, 6/2), so it'll be a week or so before anything is out there. In the mean time, I will be loading information to www.scaryfast.com soon.

For now, you can download the Rules/Information/Membership packet (in Adobe Acrobat PDF format) by clicking here (http://www.scaryfast.com/fbipacket.pdf)

This was touch and go for some time now, and they're a little late in getting it started, so there is limited info on payouts. They're working on getting race/series sponsorships to add to the purse which will be culminated from the entry fees.

The classes (in a nutshell) are as follows:

River Runner: Fishing type motors (Non-High Perf). Different weights for different sizes/horsepowers. Ski type boats (no race boats)

Lake Racer: High Perf motors allowed (2.5EFI, etc.) with any bolt-ons. No internal mods allowed. Ski type boats (3 seat configuration minimum) - no race boats.

Pro Lake Racer: Like Lake Racer, but internal Mods are allowed.

Pro Drag: Any mods allowed - no Alcohol and No additives. Any style boat allowed.

Didn't want to take the time to type everything in here, so give me a couple of days and I'll have all the stuff up on scaryfast.com.

PLEASE support this by showing up. We have a very special, unique situation in Northern Illinois with Blarney Island and I think everybody that's been here would agree. Florida certainly has the boats to support this kind of event and you have the opportunity.

Thanks for starting this post and I'll be supplying whatever info I can prior to the launch of the website.

Thanks.

Sam Baker

[CUDA]

What about weights?-- do the lake racer boats have to have seats in them? THANKS PS Will this be 1/4 mile?

[Sam Baker]

the weights are as listed in the downloadable PDF document that includes the newsletter that was sent out along with the Rules, race schedule, and membership form.

Download the form by going to www.scaryfast.com and click on the link to download the Fast Boats inc. information right there on the home page.

Sam

[Hot Shot Merc]

The updated info on your site is verey informative.Most of anyones questions should be clearly answered by the rule sheet and dates provided.I do have one question though.Are crew members requierd to pay a membership fee as well as sign the insurance form to be in the pits?The statement about any crew member who helps with the races wouldnt have to pay the fee makes me wonder about that.I also see that the schedule dates that I posted earlyer on this thread have changed a little.I wanted to make that clear to anyone who has written them down from my prev, post.....OK guys the ball is rolling,lets get this thing done.Bring your rigs to Crescent City on june 12 and see what ya think of Drag Racing the rite way.Its a blast I promise....Rob Lankford:cool:

[Hot Shot Merc]

Yes this will 1/4 mile and no your boat does'nt have to have seats other than the one for the driver.It just has to be a boat that was made originaly for three or more.This is the same as ODBA's lake racer seat configuration rule .Hope that helps ya.:)

[PARKER RABE]

sam i tried to call u from the rbr . i talked with your dad for a while ...

[jenksam]

RICHARD NICE TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN ME. SORRY TO SAY THAT I HAVE SOLD THE YELLOW 1/4 SHOT. HOWEVER I WILL BE IN CR CITY FOR THE RACE. LAST YEAR AT THE RACE IN LAKE LAND I WASS NOT DRIVEING THE BOAT. I HAD BEEN IN AND OUT OF THE HOSP. SO I LET SOMEONE ELSE DRIVE. I LOOK FOWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL AGIAN .

SAM JENKINS

[RNM018]

Sam Jenkins ,Sorry to here of your heath problems . Hope things are going better for you now . Last spoke with you at Cresent City race early last year . You where riding your new bike , hope this wasn't the cause of your problems . Anyway looking foward to seeing you sometime . Not sure witch races i'll be able to make . Oh and who could ever forget such a caricter as yourself . Always a good time when we get to play . See You Soon . Rich Martin 018

[jenksam]

RICHARD
NO THE BIKE WAS NOT THE CAUSE OF MY HOSP STAY. JUST BAD LUCK WITH HEALTH. I PLAN TO BE IN CR CITY ON THE 12TH OF JUNE WITH A STV THAT I BUILT THE MOTOR FOR.
ON A EARILER POST, SOMEONE SAID THAT I WAS "GOING TO BEAT THEIR ASS" IN LAKELAND. HOPEFULLY WAS SAID OR MENT IN THE BOAT. ANYWAY JUST WANT TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE THERE GIVE ME A CALL AND LET ME KNOW 904 376 5081 (CELL).

sam

[Sam Baker]

RE: length of the course. Course will be 1/4 mile unless weather or lake space doesn't permit. I had previously posted it would be 1000 feet, but that was in the event of inclement weather.

We run about 750 feet here in Illinois and even though it's short, a Modified Production boat (at 1350 lbs) will run around 105 and a ProGas boat will run nearly 110 (at 1400 lbs). So, speeds and excitement won't be much different than 1/4 mile.

However, propping will be different than 1/4 mile....

[B.Leonard]

Count me in! I could make at least a couple maybe more eventually, thinking of moving up to that area (Palatka). :cool:

-BL

[Hot Shot Merc]

That sux for me.I got almost a grand into my 1/4 mile prop on my heavy ass Lightning.Its got a 04 sportmaster case that 1 1/4 inch shaft.I aint buying another prop thats for sure.Oh well.:) Thats great, the light boats get more of an advantage.Most of them want short courses cause the cant fly em at the end ( too squirly)at top speed.Thank god for the FAT BOAT CLASS (Lake racer):D

[RNM018]

SUCKS TO BE YOU ROB . I think it's a great idea . Little motor runs out on the big end . OOPS . Did I say that out loud . Rob see ya at alligator this weekend . Rich Martin 018

[Hot Shot Merc]

Go easy on me Mr. Lightboat:D

[FasterthanU]

Hit me up with a PM with your #...I said I'd call ya when I got back to my place because you didn't have my number, but dumba$$ me forgot I don't have yours either.

[Sam Baker]

We've been running the even shorter course up here and the differences are not as bad as you might think.

What everybody has to realize is the difficulty in bringing a bunch of boats together that are very different and trying to get them to run close together. This year will definitely be a bit of a "trial and error" with rules, weights, procedures, etc. So in order for this to work long term, everybody needs to be flexible and don't get upset if you don't win every week. We've been running rules (weight and motor rules) for 5 years now and the first year or two wasn't easy. But now, people that show up know that if their boat fits the rules, they have a shot to be competitive.

As we all know, you can have the perfect motor, the perfect boat and the perfect prop, but if you don't know how to set it up and you don't know how to drive it, you'll come in last every week. It takes a ton of little things to beat everybody else.

So, believe me, we have more fun with this Thursday night deal than we have a right to and for those who have seen it, they know how lucky we are. I hope you take advantage of the opportunity and pitch in (whether that's by helping or just being cool about stuff). I'm hoping to get my boat down for a race at some point....

Sam

[Hot Shot Merc]

The lake racer class for (FBI) fits my boat perfectly.I'll actually have to add 10 lbs to make weight.:eek: I have 150 lbs comp,and everything else fits that class.Should be interesting.I just gotta work out the bugs that bit my motor yesturday.:DSam Ive been working overtime trying to talk a bunch of guys from around the state to come try this.Ive got some of them comeing.It seems that there are a few guys that allready race that want to come and scope out the competition before commiting to the first race.Theres also a few that are more worried about the payout than they should be. I'm not sure how I feel about that.:confused:This has to start somehow wether theres a payout or not.I'll be happy with a cheap old plastic trophy. I'll do my best though.Win or loose I'll be there to help promote these new race.Without particapation there's nothing.Sam, thanx for your help.

[Sam Baker]

I think that's great. I'm sure my folks - and the other racers who go will appreciate your efforts. Based on what I read about your boat, you should definitely be in the hunt.

I know what you're talking about when it comes to pay out. I know a lot of people who would rather go race ODBA and spend a lot of money knowing they won't get a check than go to a grass roots race with a chance to win a small one.

Believe me, if you get the boats there on a consistent basis, the money will follow. The bar up here does HUGE business on Thursday nights when we race. It's unbelievable. We have more spectators on a Thursday night than any outboard drag race anywhere in the country. Between the bar and the boats in the water, it can get to be close to 5000 people....it's crazy.

As for those that want to scope out the competition, if you miss any races, you pretty much lose any chance for a points championship. The biggest key to winning is to make every race. Also, you can't tell how fast you are when you're on the shore.

Get 'em on out there and line 'em up!

[RNM018]

Sam Baker , I run a modifed 2.4 carb . fishing motor on a Mirage Jagiur . What I see in the general rules posted on page one , is I would have to run with the high performance motor just because I run this hull . Is this corect or did I miss something ? I was unable to down load the complete rules from your other sight . If this is so what if any weight break will I get to try and even things up abit . Thanks For Your Help . Rich Martin 018

[rmh77]

it looked to me like hull design doesnt make a difference but you would have to be 1600 lbs and run 155psi compression if river racer was your choice of class. just my .02 i was reading the rules myself thinkin about tryin the river racer class

[Hot Shot Merc]

It looks to me like you would run the river runner class with the 2.4 modified rule =1600 lbs.I think the hull thing is the same as APBA AND ODBA was the jag, originally made as a three seater or is that considerd a race hull only?

[RNM018]

WOW ,1600 lbs . Where do I put that ? Hey Rob , think John might lend me one of his spinners ?That sould put me right in the park . Rich Martin 018

[Hot Shot Merc]

Skittles (Q SHOT 260) is going to put rmh77(uncle fester) in the back seat of his Q-shot to make weight.Why not???:D

[rmh77]

Skittles wil still whoop you azz with me in the boat!;) :D

[Hot Shot Merc]

I'll bet you'r boat for my boat that I'll win that race.Wherever whenever....Bitch!:eek:

[Hot Shot Merc]

I've hered it more than once that you will still beet me even if fester was in the back seat or if you added 300 lbs of weight.:D

[Hot Shot Merc]

:rolleyes:

[rmh77]

Originally posted by Hot Shot Merc
I'll bet you'r boat for my boat that I'll win that race.Wherever whenever....Bitch!:eek: How many times does LTB have to beat up on a lightning??? First it was your boat then andy's boat then the cat and the latest kill the ski mvp only reason skittles hasnt killed the chip yet is cause your daddy TED is scared!!.BITCH!!!:eek: :D

[quartershot]

Damn what did you start HOT shot? Sounds like you have been beat like a wet cat or is that mm pussycat to keep it clean on here

[rmh77]

:eek: :eek: :eek: BLOWN MOTOR dan talkin smack to hotshot

[quartershot]

yes i am . you know i have to stir the pot a little.

[Hot Shot Merc]

I will pay skittles entry fee at any real race that he beats me at.You will pay mine fester.DEAL????...Bitch!:eek: :D 1650 to 1650 lbs.Deal with reality Fester.Please!

[quartershot]

Hot shot, Didnt i hear that skittles beat you like a few weeks ago at lake tarpon. and his boat was not even set for draging and you had your all set up for it? #s not lie

[Hot Shot Merc]

Yes skittles beet me to the eight mile with a boat that weighs 300 plus lbs lighter than mine with only 20 hp less.If you want I'll buy you a skirt and some pom,pom's so that you can cheer for your daddy skittles with the rest of the LAKE TARPON GIRLS.Since you dont know anything about drag raceing or high perf, boats I'll ignore that statement.I'll tell you like the rest of the girls over there.Bring your weapon of choice to a REAL race with weights and rule and class's for the boats and we'll see how bad Skittles candy ass winn's then.By the way Jeff I still love you so dont let this nonsence get out of hand.Yall need to be real for a change and face the fact's.:eek: :D ... BY THE WAY (SKITTLE SQAUD).Dont forget tha ass woopin your boy Jeff got at the RBR.I WOULD LOVE hear THE EXCUSE FOR THOSE LOSSES.:eek: :D

[Skittles]

Hotshot, dont worry about me gettin upset, I pretty much figure I'll never beat you or Driver cause there will always be some reason why it wasn't fair, hell Driver wont even run me now in his STV, not until he gets his DRAG motor or whatever it is he's gettin...............As to gettin my ass handed to me by 2 different boats 1 for Itchy and 3 or 4 for the STV.......well I was pretty happy to run like I did with a 26, but facts are facts I didn't have enough that day. :cool:

P.S. Where were you and Driver at the RBR??? For all the REAL Drag racin you guys do I figured I'd see you out there cleaning house.......... It was a blast, like always.........even when I was losing.:D :D :D

[Hot Shot Merc]

I think looseing sux.You dont see guy's at the odba events raceing modified production boats against superstock or unlimited do you.There is a good reason for that.If it were'nt for all the B/S comments people make like the lake Tampon girls do when they beet you it might not be so bad.Bring your Q- squat to the races and fare will be fare.Last weekend at Aligator lake there was even some comments made about me getting beet by Domanick in that STV.Well,I'll say it again and yall can call it some kind of excuse all you want but the fact of the matter is that we weighd exactly the same but his motor was a Diamond ported 260 with A.M.S wich is the same as S.V.S and he was running 200 lb compression heads with high octaine fule.All of wich put's him in another class as me unless he were to add 200 lbs of weight.Thats fare in my eyes.My motor is bone stock 280 at 150 lbs comp, and ran on pump gas 93 oct,.These arent excuses they are cold hard facts of raceing.I'm not crying I just want to race apples to apples.Thats understanable aint it????

[rmh77]

Now Now nobody like a sore looser:( :( Id be happy to pay entry fee! What are you gonna do when the skittles boat is really set up to drag race at the proper weight??? with a real drag prop not a 26 with 10in of set back 3/4 inch above the pad???? WATCHA GONNA DO NOW BITCH!!!!:eek: ;) :D

[rmh77]

ITS SPELLED .....................BEAT BEAT BEAT BEAT BEAT !!!!!!!!NOT "BEET" BITCH!!! A BEET IS WHAT YOU PUT ON YOUR SALAD FATBOY!!!! LOL :D :D :D :p :p

[Hot Shot Merc]

I hope that you dont realy think that those changes are going to make that much of a difference.Remember,this isnt my first time around the block with drag raceing.Ive made these changes in the past and while they do make a difference.Dont think that all of a sudden you guys have all the answers.His boat will launch a little harder with a smaller prop but they also run out quiker.And the set back on that boat is important to the top end perf in the 1/4 mile so dont change it too much.and the weight is going to smack your ass in the face with a big taste of REALITY.Stick that on your fork and eat it. ..Bitch!:D

[Hot Shot Merc]

What the hell do you know about salads?Your the one thats 300 lbs not me.I was told that there wasnt any spelling police on this site.Is Greg paying you to be the English teacher now???.:o

[Hot Shot Merc]

Why dont you get a rule book and start reading that,Smart ass!:eek:

[rmh77]

Rob...........What are you gonna do when we comply with all the rules you cry about and you still loose? Just remember this for right now no matter what its QUATERSHOT 1 LIGHTNING O!And thats a fact! BITCH!!!!;) Oh yea its also HYDROSTREAM 1 LIGHTNING SKI MVP 0................:D

[Ray Leach]

RMH

I hate to interrupt but a word of advice on the q-shot, 10" setback is BAD for that boat for draggin, kills the hole shot. Just a word of advice....its all about e.t. Now back to show already in progress.......

[DCI]

You coundn't beat your own meat Fatboy.We Raced 20 times you did win one and thats it.
And don't cry about water conditions it was just as ruff for me and don't say that boat won't handle it cause i've seen Jeff go over much worse than that.Maybe it was that beachball head of yours throwing the c.g. off I'll buy that.I tried to get you to play today but all you keep BOO-HOOING about was that you had to go home and pop the pimples on your ass so you could put on your skirt on to cheer for skittles......BITCH

[RNM018]

CHILDREN , What's Going On Here ? This started out as a serious thread about ,OUTBOARD DRAG RACING . Now Look What You Done !:D :D :D

[DCI]

I'll behave, But he started it

[rmh77]

Originally posted by Ray Leach
RMH

I hate to interrupt but a word of advice on the q-shot, 10" setback is BAD for that boat for draggin, kills the hole shot. Just a word of advice....its all about e.t. Now back to show already in progress....... Thats what im trying to explain to hotshot. The boat hasnt even had its full potential unleashed yet. like i said in my previous post skittles outdragged rob with a 26,10in of set back and running motor 3/4 above the pad!Hardly the ideal drag set up.

[rmh77]

Originally posted by DCI
You coundn't beat your own meat Fatboy.We Raced 20 times you did win one and thats it.
And don't cry about water conditions it was just as ruff for me and don't say that boat won't handle it cause i've seen Jeff go over much worse than that.Maybe it was that beachball head of yours throwing the c.g. off I'll buy that.I tried to get you to play today but all you keep BOO-HOOING about was that you had to go home and pop the pimples on your ass so you could put on your skirt on to cheer for skittles......BITCH YOU LOST DEAL WITH IT!!!..........HYDROSTREAM 1.........LPB 0 !!!BITCH;)

[DCI]

Now I know another reason why we call you MONGO cause you can't count.....BITCH
.......Don't even try to bring it this way fatboy
you may need a tissue

[rmh77]

Originally posted by DCI
Now I know another reason why we call you MONGO cause you have the I.Q. of COOLWHIP.......Don't even try to bring it this way fatboy
you may need a tissue Maybe i can borrow some of hotshots tissues.

[PARKER RABE]

:eek:

[Skittles]

Rob, the only reason anyone calls it an excuse is because it is. I understand completley that in a sanctioned REAL drag race, the playin field is alot more even. That is definately where your boat shines. BUT those rules dont apply on a typical Sunday at the lake where its alot more "run what ya brung" kinda thing like street racin. You are into this REAL drag racing thing and thats cool . Just remember everyone is not into that, so when you start talkin about weight and classes it comes off as an excuse to people that don't race in REAL races. I never gave weight even a second thought until I met you guys. I was either faster or I wasn't. Basically what I am saying (in a nice way) is if and when I show up at a REAL race I'll listen to the " he weighs this or he weighs that"...........otherwise I dont care what you weigh, what motor you run, how much faster you can be, how much slower I'd be, what would happen at a real race, you line up with me and I'll jump right in. If I get an ass whoopin (like I have so many times) I will just keep tryin. If I give you an ass whoopin then I hope you keep tryin. Thats fun to me and thats what it's all about. I take this hobby/life/job very serious.........but at the same time I take very very lightly.I don't like losing either, but that is what makes winning so much fun. :cool:

[Sam Baker]

We used to run without weights at Blarney Island and we got the exact same pushback. The problem we had is that the racing and the pride in winning was getting more and more serious to the point where guys were ordering their boats SUPER light because that's the way to win. Anybody that came to the first FireWater can attest as Bruce Mason's STV came apart at half track after hitting one of our patented mid-course rollers we get every night. So we put weights in the next year and many people complained, but the boat counts almost doubled in the stock class particularly because so many people had stock weight boats that previously couldn't compete. Those who had raced with the stock weight boats were now competitive and the people who used to win were still competitive because they were serious in their testing, etc. and got it right with the weights right off the bat.

In the end, the idea for these races is to get everybody CLOSE - not exact. Up here, we weight the boats only one time and use that number to judge the amount of 25 lb. bags of shot they need to run. After each race (since we're running at a bar built in the middle of the lake - no pit area or single ramp to put in at) we just count the bags of the winning boat and one other boat randomly. In 3 years, we never found anybody without the right amount of weight bags.

Sam

[Hot Shot Merc]

I'm just gettig sick as hell of reading about how bad you beat me.Oh and by the way dont kid yourself LTB GIRLS if you think my boat is allways set up for drags evry time its on the water.It only runs race set up at the REAL RACES. There are things that get changed for the races.It just seems that at every gathering I go to there is somebody who wants a peice of HOT SHOT.Most of these people have way lighter boats and most of them have way higher HP.When I run on these events my rig weighs about 1750 plus lbs.Its getting old hearing the same thing everywhere I go.If yall want to drag race somebody then go to the DAMN RACES WHERE YOU BELONG.I DO.and usually KICK ASS !!!!! I'll be at crescent city all day saturday waiting for all you guy's that want some so BRING IT!!!!!:)

[1BadAction]

:eek:

[Skittles]

Good question..........why did you?