Blue Marble Oil

[diskvalve]

I was at Eagle River Wisc. for the World Championship snowmobile Derby and there was a guy there touting Blue Marble Oil. The claims are high and there were lots of expert testimonies, but I have never heard of any of the so-called experts . Have any of you had experience with it.--- mike

[Raceman]

In a nutshell, they were a sponsor of ODBA several years back and somehow the agreement went sour. During that time it was the required oil for the fuel spec classes. Their claims of increased horsepower are pure BS in my opinion and VERY doubtful.

[DonChicho]

ONE YEAR AGO, I BOUGHT A GALLON. ACTUALLY I'M USING IT IN MY "WEED EATER" .!!!!!!!!!

DON

[Raceman]

Did you see big increases in weed whackability as BM claims?:D

[msm]

I bought a gallon about five years ago after hearing all the claims of how superior Blue Marble was supposed to be compared to other mineral and synthetic oils. Unfortunately, when the gallon jug arrived, the label says "DO NOT PREMIX WITH GASOLINE". "Use ONLY in oil injected engines". Quite a drawback in my opinion! Apparently, it's not good if the gas and oil mixture is not burned right away. But, since oil injected engines (Mercury EFI at least) still premix the oil and gas in a small quantity at the powerhead, the problem still exists. Bottom line is I'm not experimenting with the stuff on my equipment.

[Techno]

I saw in a bassboat site that it would clean the engine out after a bit of time. Can't remember if it did it in a tank or several tanks.

Figured if it only took a tank might be good for that?

[Hottrucks]

That only brings up the question of is one oil better than the other ? I've been pondering this myself and don't know the right answer any help would be great. Rite now I'm running Mec stuff and pay the long dollar but it's cheaper than a power head !
Are there any alts or synthetics that are better or less expencive? :confused: really :confused:

[MODVP22]

The local marina here started carrying Blue Marble a little over a year ago. From what the company has relayed to them, Blue Marble was bought out by another company, which is why the sponsorship for ODBA went sour. This company has continued to refine and make Blue Marble. Thier new claims are to the protection it offers 2 stroke engines and the low emissions, it hardly (if any) smokes. I don't think the new advertising claims any power increases. The guy who owns the local marina here, very skeptical about oils, tried it in everything from his kids 4 wheelers to his weed eaters, to one of his boats. Now he swears by it. Oil Injection, and Premix. He made me try it and I have not yet had a problem with it in any of our 2.5's.

What the buzz is now, that Blue Marble is working closely with different outboard companies to become their supplier for the outboard company oils (OMC right now). I'm told this is going to be a way for older 2 strokes to meet new emissions laws.

[Raceman]

Tom, although I don't remember specifics, some of the Blue Marble claims during the ODBA days seemed greatly exagerated. I would have to say that "allowing older 2 strokes to meet current emissions standards is probably more propoganda and wild claims at first glance.

I've always been very skeptical about products that resort to what seems like gimmicks to gain a quick market share. I'm just not willing to risk 10K + powerheads for something that's relatively unproven and has limited potential for any real advantage over the old stuff. Jay likes Pennzoil full synthetic and I've always had good luck with Klotz. I think I'll stick with those two rather than tryin' other stuff.

[MODVP22]

I agree that some of the claims are exaggerated. From my experience so far, the motors do not smoke as much, and you can't smell that raw oily smell from them as they are running. So, maybe they will help older 2 strokes help meet new emmissions standards, I'd rather buy different oil than a differently designed 4 stroke, LOL. I have not yet mixed it to their higher specifications, only 40:1 mix so far.
Maybe I can find out some more info on this stuff.

[Raceman]

I'm sure you're aware that it takes a lot more than lack of oil to promote clean emissions. With SeaDoo's DI engines they've been able to cut way back on oil consumption, but the big emissions improvements have been from lean mixtures. Since these don't mix the oil with the fuel, the lean mix has nothing to do with oil content.

I also think if oil type/mixture was of real consequence that Merc would've done more with it instead of going into the Optimax stuff and the same with OMC/Fitch.

[Techno]

Old engines don't have to meet new emission laws.

[diskvalve]

The university of waterloo won some kind of SAE challenge using Blue Marble oil and they were using a two stroke against four strokes . www.nulubes.com

[BarryStrawn]

I think the point would be that the oil is quickly biodegradable. So that would be an improvement and some might prefer to use it just for that reason. But it wouldn't do anything about the fuel lost out the exhaust port.

[Rodney Nance]

The year we had to run it in ODBA we had a problem with scuffing of the cylinders and pistons. We ran steel bore motors and saw a lot of wear that the nicasal motors did not. We could break in and test the motors with Klotz without a problem. But after a race with the Blue Marble the scuffing would be there. Maybe they have changed it but I wouldn't run it if it was free.