View Full Version : 119 in a stock weight Bassboat !!!!!
Jay Smith
11-22-2003, 12:55 PM
Paul Nichols ( Factory Bullet ACE TEST PILOT ) E- Mailed me last night and reported in a 20 + ft Stock lay up weight Bullet at 1025 lbs hull only ( Not gutted and in fishing trim ) ran 3 - 119 MPH passes and projected 2 to 3 mph more with a gear case change this afternoon..... ( WOW if so 121- 122 from a STOCK Bassboat hull )
Paul is an amazing driver and set up man and has opened a shop in Chatanooga , Tenn. and is in the business of dialing in high performance Bassboats that he is been legendary in getting huge big end numbers out of for years. Also has engine rebuild services..........1 423 451 0125 ( Nichols Engineering )
Bullet Performance Boats + Paul Nichols ( Driver and set up ) +
JSRE ( Custom built Drag Motor ) = HUGE TOP SPEED NUMBERS
Way to go Paul and Company !!!!!
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Paul Nichols
11-22-2003, 08:39 PM
Thanks Jay!! That is one STRONG engine you built!!! 119 MPH isn't to bad for a big O bass boat and I hope to run 121-122 MPH within the next couple of weeks with the small gearcase. I plan to hang the JSRE engine on a 800 LB Bullet bass boat in the near future...maybe 125+MPH.
Thanks, Paul
ally2dextreme
11-22-2003, 09:37 PM
hey paul how much does your balls weight!!!! way to go ill call u thomas
eautosales
11-22-2003, 10:03 PM
THATS FLYIN:D
rev.ronnie
11-23-2003, 12:35 AM
Do the balls ride shotgun, or do you throw them in the back seat??
WOW, you are insane......
I want one too!!...*drool****:)
Question; if you had a 3 pound bass in the livewell while making those passes, would it be a fingerling afterwords?
Reese
11-23-2003, 01:02 AM
but what exactly is a custom drag mota.
Regular mortal bullets with 300x's don't come near those numbers...so how much hp are we talking about???
Rocket
11-23-2003, 02:35 AM
but what exactly is a custom drag mota. :confused:
"A Jay Smith Racing Engine!" :D ;)
You can't Stop a JSRE!
Jay Smith
11-23-2003, 09:22 PM
Just got off the phone with Greg and Paul Nichols and they are soon getting together to do an artcle on the Bullet Bassboat that is running the big top end numbers in TN this week. Paul is adding the "baby gearcase" to the hull this week and hopefully we can get some 120 + numbers from less drag with the use of the smaller gearcase , should be an interesting article for the bass boat fans on the board....
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BenKeith
11-23-2003, 09:56 PM
What good is a bass boat that runs 120 mph when it can't be used for fishing. Put all the right batteries, trolling motor, gear/tackle, two people and a full livewell, that sucker would never get on plain.
Then you figure that motor was probably turning 10,000+ rpm, like to see it live through one 10 mile WOT run.
Couldn't help but laugh when I saw a guy in an Allison coming out of a cove trying to get going, motor just kept surging, he finally stoped. It was getting dark and felt I ought to see if he needed help since it was a ways to the ramp and no one else on the lake. When I got to him, he had a cup bailing water out of his livewell, said he was ok, just he had caught a couple of fish to take home, filled his livewell to put the fish in and the boat wouldn't get on plain with the extra weight so he had to bail it out.
Paul Nichols
11-24-2003, 12:02 AM
Thanks for your words of wisdom Keith, but I can assure you the boat has NO PROBLEM getting on plain with a fishing load. Why can't I use it for fishing? The boat is 100% kevlar and weighs 1025 lbs...it's plenty strong enough for fishing. Put some soft heads on for 93 octane gas, one more battery and a trolling motor and I'm going fishing.
I knew it was just a matter of a few post before someone belittled the runs I made...LOL! That's fine, I just enjoy making things go real fast that aren't supposed to go all that fast. A race boat is supposed to go real fast...a bass boat isn't. I enjoy running bass boats...I ran a Triad DR-20 in Jasper this year, It was fun, but I still like running for big top end numbers in a bass boat better. It's also kinda cool driving a Bullet faster than anyone else has ever been before.
Paul
Markus
11-24-2003, 05:27 AM
Who on earth would want to soil their 120 mph boat with slimy, smelly fish anyway? :D :D
ally2dextreme
11-24-2003, 07:29 AM
your gone to get one every now and then good job paul keep us informed
Liqui-Fly
11-24-2003, 08:14 AM
You said you like to make boats that aren't supposed to go fast go real fast. Come on up the the Rondak Romp in June....I need a hand. I will provide 300+ hp...what else do I need?
87 Stratos VT Ski (20 footer)
David
Jay Smith
11-24-2003, 08:38 AM
Don't think a thing about the negative post , out of 6500 + members just by the law of averages you are gonna get one of those types , sound like jelousy to me ! LOL...............
What you have done and are doing is a great accomplishment and is something to be proud of , ALOT of folks are envious of success and it eats them up when others are and they are just another face in the crowd looking on wishing !
PhastBoat
11-24-2003, 08:50 AM
"I will provide 300+ hp...what else do I need?"
ANSWER:
A Bullet Bass Boat!!!!!!
PS- GREAT JOB PAUL!!!!
racerx
11-24-2003, 09:46 AM
Hey Jay he probally ownes a Ranger you know how those guys hate fast bass boats boat sounds like it runs very well.Jeff
Rocket
11-24-2003, 09:49 AM
What good is a bass boat that runs 120 mph?
It gives ya more time to fish! :D Ya may not be able to hold it a t 120 long, but you could hold it at 100mph for a good while.
Ya can't slow a JSRE fish'n mota down!
Those motors haul ass!!
Trae:D
PFord
11-24-2003, 10:17 AM
Hey Ben I can guarantee that boat loaded to fish will come out of the hole faster than any bass boast you have ever seen or been in. And another thing about the motor, it is one hell of a stong and dependable motor, if Paul Nichols can run it for a year without any problem then that should tell you something about Jay's work, and I don't think the 10 mile run would be out of the question, the only problem I can see if running out of gas. Way to go Paul let us know when you break the 120 mark.:D
sho305
11-24-2003, 10:45 AM
I tweaked the carb on my 11hp golfcart...still fun. Keep us up to date:)
Electric Fish
11-24-2003, 03:48 PM
Oh man, I want to go fishing with you. More fishing time means more fish right? Has to be fun to just blow by the rest of the field. These guy's are all hoped up about 80mph skeeter's and triton's and you go and whip out this bad ass bullet. Just another ten years and I can get me a go fast bass boat. Dream....dream.....dream.:)
ALLISON7710
11-24-2003, 07:10 PM
THATS SMOKIN IN A BASS BOAT. SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO SETUP A BASSBOAT TO RUN THOSE TYPES OF NUMBERS. IM SURE IT WAS A LITTLE EASIER WITH JSRE POWER BEHIND IT;). THIS IS A COUPLE OF BULLET BASS BOATS I HAVE OWNED IN THE PAST FOR YOU GUYS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. THANKS ERIC. HEY PAUL WHEN DO YOU WANT TO SET UP MY ALLISON? :eek:
ALLISON7710
11-24-2003, 07:15 PM
NOTICE THE GEARCASE. IT WAS ONE THAT PAUL USED WHILE SETTING ONE OF THE MANY RECORDS HE HAS SET.:D
ALLISON7710
11-24-2003, 07:19 PM
FAST BASS BOATS CATCH FAST BIG FISH.LOL. THANKS ERIC.
Reese
11-24-2003, 07:50 PM
according to your pictures bullets are good for going fast but Allisons are good for going fast AND catching fish...:D
Balzy
11-24-2003, 08:49 PM
Who built the nosecone on the purple boat? Or was that your fish spear?
ALLISON7710
11-24-2003, 10:10 PM
THE NOSECONE COULD BE BETTER EXPLAINED BY PAUL. WE CALLED IT PINNOCHIO:D IT WORKED GREAT AND NO CHANCE OF BLOW OUT AT HIGH SPEEDS. I HAVE OWNED ABOUT 4 BULLETS AND FIVE ALLISON BASS BOATS ALONG WITH MANY RACE BOATS. THE BULLET FISHES BETTER THAN THE ALLEY BUT I AM USED TO BOTH. THANKS ERIC. THIS IS THE ONE I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
NPK2003
11-25-2003, 12:22 AM
If not, don't be using S & F pages to spread BS like the Allison story unless that motor was a piece of junk. And then say, "...an Allison with a sick motor that couldn't pull my little #ick outta my pants to pee" or something like that. There's nothing wrong with the position that you don't need a 100 mph bass boat to have a good time fishing. I even agree with you. But here's the facts.
My ole Allison XB2003PST has every option ON BOARD, including the rear folding casting seat, both tournament swivel seats with gas poles, full 32 gallon tank, (2)15 lb. anchors, Full Graffig Gauge Package, THREE (3) Trolling Thunder Big A$$ batteries aft, built-in triple 15 amp charger, 4 speaker Stereo/CD Player(No Sub woofer), Self-Retrieving Bow and Stern Lines mechanisms, and Motor Guide 24 Volt Trolling Motor System up forward. Oh yeah, the Coast Guard stuff too and a paddle and a boat hook.
Now every Memorial Day Weekend we can, Balzy, myself and a Bob Z, take the Ally out Crappie Fishing. Balzy, he's average weight, maybe 170. Bob Z.., about 6'2 and 265 and me, unfortunately,295lbs.
When we left, I still had all my Muskie tackle on board. All three front boxes filled. 6 or 7 casting rods in the side locker. We took a large cooler of beer, two sandwich coolers, one styro cooler worms, one 5 gallon pail of minnows, 3 tackle boxes and our rods, nets, all the little stuff.
The dang boat has a PROMAX 225! And Mr. Keith. Even with the live well full of water and crappies, the Promax and a 24 Trophy popped us out of the hole every time with any one driving. We could run all day at a little over 75 mph without a hint of chine walking and cut waves without slapping the hull. All with a 225 stock Promax.
There has to be 30 plus people on this board who has driven my Allison as a loaner or for fishing or just for fun. I am not making up any story. Just 'cause you don't seem to like hot shot, big buck bass boats doesn't make it OK to make up BS stories and maybe scare some reader away from buying a boat like a Bullit or Allison based on your account of something I find hard to believe unless the boat was seriously mis-setup. And please, I own a 260 and a 300 drag, so save power curve lectures. Prop it!:cool:
Bulletboy
11-25-2003, 12:29 AM
FIrst of all GREAT JOB Paul!!!! Bring the Bullet to the romp I'll bring mine and anyone that wants to spit out negitive nonsense show up and they can see why they call them Bullet BASS boats! Again Great Job, NICE ENGINE JAY
Now for you LiquiFly You could put 400 ponies on the back of that wanna be speed boat of yours and still couldn't run with a Bullet ! Get the new motor junk the boat and buy yourself a Bullet or Allison
Ray
Liqui-Fly
11-25-2003, 09:17 AM
If you're boat goes 85 come Romp time I owe you a six pack Can't beat physics man. Better get a 32 and a long long stretch of nice water. I'll have lunch done when you get there:) Did you get the motor yet?
David
PhastBoat
11-25-2003, 09:45 AM
:confused:
Liqui-Fly
11-25-2003, 10:07 AM
What's the wave?
PhastBoat
11-25-2003, 10:16 AM
"You takin to me?-You takin to me?"
pumper
11-25-2003, 02:05 PM
If he was running that lower unit. No wonder he was 2 and out..The same JSRE was being used..
Jay Smith
11-25-2003, 02:12 PM
The 119 mph Bullet was not ran in Jasper nor to my knowledge was the JSRE motor now on the Bullet used on the Triad Paul Drove !
jay
pumper
11-25-2003, 02:17 PM
Thats right it was a Triad...I forgot to type Triad.. I just thought everyone would asume a bullet would't be in mod production..
PFord
11-25-2003, 02:18 PM
That LU was not used by Paul or Eric in Jasper, and I know Paul did not use a Jay Smith motor and pretty sure Eric did not either. Also Paul made it 3 rounds not 2, only reason he didn't do better was he was running on 5 cylinders, so for his first time I think he did pretty good.
pumper
11-25-2003, 02:23 PM
So you would get in mod production without a modified engine..Thats right... TWO & OUT..
PFord
11-25-2003, 02:33 PM
pumper what are you taking about? It sounds like you need to lay off whatever you are doing.
pumper
11-25-2003, 03:07 PM
What Iam talking about is...If your motor is not modified in modified production class you are wasteing your time..
Liqui-Fly
11-25-2003, 03:09 PM
He didn't say the motors weren't modified...I think what he meant was they weren't modified by Jay.
David
if that were my boat ,i wouldnt use it for fishing ,everyone would think i'm going fishing,i'd be out cruzing for speed runs,racing other boats and giving my passengers thrills,all pretending to fish way cool!! the only thing is after they hear you going 120 on the lake the gig will be up. well i guess i'd be the 1st to my fake fishin hole.
Scream And Fly
11-25-2003, 03:26 PM
Jay and Paul,
THAT is incredible! From what I understand, this boat will go even faster too! Those JSRE engines make some serious power!
Greg
riverrat3
11-25-2003, 03:56 PM
2 words "Bad Ass"
I remember when i talked to you a few months back, and you guys said you were going for over 120 in the Bullet! Congrats on the great accomplishment. I wish i could have met you at jasper, i ran sport racer on Sunday and then Starting Barge duty afterwards so we got kinda of busy. But i wanted to personally thank you on The great service you gave me with the ECU situation i had, (by the way its still doing just fine). Be safe and keep us posted!!!!
Todd Carter
skywagon
11-25-2003, 04:07 PM
Silly Bullet and Allison bass boat owners......
Don't you know that at 120 mph you'll never keep a bait down?:D
Seriously though, congratulations!
And oh yea, My Allison does low 90's and there are over 100 Allison bass boats out there that will smoke me by 5 to 10 mph fully loaded....most of those with stock 2.5's
rev.ronnie
11-25-2003, 04:55 PM
It would be fun to take that rig to some lake where the local "hitters" hang out and race a bunch of them.
AFTER you lay down the law, tell them that the boat only runs high 80's and the motor is stock and watch them squirm.
I used to do that with one of my street cars. I would wade through the local crowd, then tell them that the car runs 13.20's, and swear by it.
These guys would get soo pissed because they all thought they had 10 or 11 second cars.
They probably did,
and I wasn't lying either when I said my car ran 13.20's...
1320 ft. runs... quarter miles.
PFord
11-25-2003, 06:09 PM
If you ever heard the motor you would understand that he could not get away with it being anything close to stock.:)
Paul Nichols
11-26-2003, 11:31 PM
Thanks for all the support! To clear things up a little...I ran a Triad with a modified engine (modified by Nichols Outboard Engineering) in Jasper...I broke a ring in the 3rd round and was out. It was the first time I had ever run in a offical drag race...it was a lot of fun. It was only the 4th time I had ever driven a Triad DR 20...I hope to run a race or two next year if time/money permits.
The gear case in the pic is a case I sold about 6 years ago...the last time I ran the case was in 1997. The low water pick up was done by Frank Johnson (was an engineer at Bullet) back in 1993...this was and still is the best/fastest gearcase I've ever driven on a Bullet, other than a small XR6 case.
The boat is about ready to hit the water again with the small case...I'll be happy as hell to hit 120 MPH, but I'm shooting for 121 MPH because it sounds a little better...LOL!
Todd, I'm glad the ECU box is doing well for you. Sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you in Jasper...maybe next year...LOL.
Paul
Bulletboy
11-27-2003, 12:07 AM
Hey Paul,
When you ran the 250xs was that 03 and did have the stock flywheel on it.
P.S. Don't forget about smallie fishing in the spring in N.Y.
Ray
BenKeith
11-27-2003, 08:42 AM
I guess my comment sounded like I was down rating Paul's accomplishment and and his JSRE. That was not the point at all I wasn't trying to belittle the fact that Paul has done a kickass job getting that Bullet to 120 mph, and definitly was not trying to belittle a JSRE. His reputation for building long lasting, high reveing motors more that speeks for itself. Also was not trying to say that Bullet could not be used to fishing boat. Just saying in that setup, it's not much good for a bass boat.
I'm a bass fisherman, except for one Allison back in the 60's, every boat I've ever owned has been fishing boats. I like fast bass boats, but it's going to be a bass boat first, then what speed I can get out of it comes second. If Paul could get my old Stratos barge with a 3.0 looper and T load to run 85 mph loaded, I'd be knocking on his door.
Granted, you can put the TM on, batteries in and throw a full tourny load in it, change props, drop the motor down a little, not run WOT, and it will still run 20 - 30 mph faster than my old barge. I do know them Bullets and Allisons with those blazing speeds shed a whole lot of that speed when they get a load in them. A friend has a Bullet 20DX, runs 87 with him, 82 with a 160 pound passenger. Mine doesn't know the difference.
The comment about the Allison was not to bash Allison's, wouldn't mind having one myself, it was the guy's setup. He has this fast ass bass boat and yet has it setup so it's almost useless for bass fishing.
steve
11-27-2003, 09:59 AM
I have one of those coses---Brand New , never installed yet. Got it from Steve at Lburg Marine in 1995. Still on the shelf. They are supposed to be the ones some of the early Allison records were set with as well. Looks like you can jack it to the moon with that cone. :p
Bulletboy
11-27-2003, 11:16 PM
Benkeith
You have no idea of of what your talking about I run a Bullet I lose just over 3 mph T-loaded thats running the same prop. You could put 400hp on the barge you own and it wouldn't make any difference you load it, it's gonna go slow. Hull Design and weight is the key. Futhermore Bullets are great Tournement boats!
Ray
225ho
11-28-2003, 03:50 PM
I's got to take up for benkeith here,
I'm the one he talks about with the 87+ mph Bullet. Now, to say that he doesn't know what he's talkin about is rediculous. This man has probably slung more baits and burnt more fuel at over 80 than most of us.
His current rig is about 10 years old and IS a fishin boat first. I've ran right beside him on the lake. He had himself, his father(both just over 200 each((guess)) and I know his livewells where full and I also know he had every compartment full of fishin gear AND 2 koolers with sodas, food and such) Not to mention fuel.
I had a full load as well, Now he was a little off with the partner being 160. The dude was over 210 for sure (damn near got kicked out ot the AF for being over weight). I had about 25gals of fuel and a bunch of gear and livewells full too. We ran right around 83.7 gps that day with a 29 SRX top end wheel.
On 2 occaisions we had open water in front of us and I drove by him and then let off, I should say I barely drove by him. He was doin at least a solid 80 with all that load.
Now, I will admit hole shot sucked that day and I did lose a solid 4 mph with the load on that particular prop. Now If I'd been running my 27 worked gade or 28 Quad 4-OT that I just got then I would not run the top end numbers but would have seen a steady 84 mph as I typically do with those props and around 86 with just me and a tourney load.
Oh....... and by the way, he probably has hit the speed limit with his current rig cause he wasn't too far off the 400 hp you speek of with a worked over 200 OMC.
Brandon
Hey Paul did the boat have strakes on the pad type of pad ? Was it a stock pad or reworked?? Great job
ally2dextreme
11-28-2003, 06:47 PM
paul didnt you say it had allison pad or was that a secret hope not
Paul Nichols
11-28-2003, 08:56 PM
Allison pad...LOL...it's much wider than that. The 20CC has a stock Bullet pad (14'' wide) that was blue printed at the factory.
I was going to try to go to the lake today, but 25 MPH winds put a kink in my plans...maybe I'll get to make a run by the first of the week if the wind dies down a little.
Paul
ally2dextreme
11-28-2003, 10:28 PM
how much did darris charge to blueprint thanks
Paul Nichols
11-28-2003, 10:43 PM
Thomas, I'm not sure what Darris charges, but I'd love to have a quart of bondo and about 10 mins with your pad...LOL...it could only help...LOL...J/K!!
Paul
ally2dextreme
11-28-2003, 10:48 PM
so thats why robs boats so slow
paul folks
12-05-2003, 01:29 PM
hey every i would take my ally out for a top end run w/ one of thoes jsre motors. that would be damn fun. i have a stock 01' 280 w/ a 30" lighting et full load me and my son at 106 on gps. i thought i was hauling ass but damn 119 in a bullet
C. Phillips
12-05-2003, 03:50 PM
wanna take me for a ride in the Bullet??:p jk, but Its been a looong time(18 years, i'm 19 now) since I been in a bullet. good luck with the speed run Paul
Scream And Fly
12-05-2003, 05:12 PM
From what I understand, there's still more to go. I think this boat will get into the 120's soon...
Greg
jay henderson
01-08-2004, 09:38 PM
HEY PAUL CONGRADULATIONS ON THE HIGH SPEED RUNS IN THE BULLET. ITS ALWAYS INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS COME UP WITH.119 MPH IN A BASSBOAT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. I WAS TALKING WITH COLIN HALL AT JASPER AND HE NOTICED MY GEARCASE ON MY S.T.V. AND WONDERED WHERE IT CAME FROM AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE AND IT IS ONE YOU GUYS USED TO RUN BACK IN T.D.B.A. ALOT OF HISTORY BEHIND THAT OLD CASE. I ENDED UP GETTING IT FROM ALLISON 7710 AFTER HE GOT THE PURPLE AND YELLOW BULLET 20CC . PICS OF THE CASE ARE ON THE SCREAM AND FLY O.D.B.A. JASPER COVERAGE. GO TO THE PICS SECTION AND LOOK FOR THE YELLOW AND WHITE S.T.V. WITH THE POLISHED MID AND YOU WILL SEE CASE IN PICS. BY THE WAY IF YOU NEED A CASE TO HELP WITH THOSE TOP END RUNS, PINNOCHIO IS AVAILABLE ANY TIME YOU WANT IT. AND WHOMEVER DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THESE PINNOCHIO GEARCASES,DONT KNOCK IT TILL YOU TRY IT I DID AND GAINED 6 MPH. WE RAN THAT CASE AGAINST A XR6 STECKBAUER AND GUESS WHAT IT FELL 1 WHOLE MILE AN HOUR BEHIND A STECKBAUER, NOT TO BAD FOR SOME GOOD OLD TENNESEE ENGINEERING AND IS A HELL OF ALOT CHEAPER. KEEP UP WITH THE AWESOME PROGRESS YOU GUYS ARE MAKING . AND GIVE ME A CALL IF YOU NEED THAT CASE. JAY
Riverman
01-08-2004, 09:54 PM
Was on vacation with my family in our cruiser this past summer, starting on the same weekend as the Kenora Bass International.
Was heading northbound on Lake of the Woods towards Kenora in a very serene area when multitudes of bass boats began heading in for judging, throwing huge roosters and letting out lots of lovely 2-stroke noise! Very impressive!
Now that's fishing I could get into!!
baja200merk
01-08-2004, 10:04 PM
this is the bote??????
Riverman
01-08-2004, 10:10 PM
That is an Allison 250 turbine, 320 HP 140 lbs.
Who-hoo!
PFord
01-09-2004, 07:53 AM
That is the Stroker boat with the turbine engine. I don't even think they broke 100 mph with that one.
C. Phillips
01-09-2004, 01:23 PM
did anyone see the I/O Stroker Chub and Mercury racing produced?
PFord
01-09-2004, 02:01 PM
I saw it at Jasper 2 years ago. I didn't perform that well, I think it would run in the 90's but because of the weight it would not perform much better. I did sound good though if you like that jetboat kind of sound.
Tony Brucato
01-09-2004, 03:28 PM
119 MPH ! You can always buy fish:D
Paul Nichols
01-12-2004, 11:30 PM
Thanks guys, I ran the boat again about 2-3 weeks ago just over 119 MPH, but I never hit the 120 MPH mark. I put a new set of rings in and I'm still breaking her in right now. I hope the new rings will give me that last 1/2 MPH I've been looking for...LOL. I plan to open her up in the next 2-3 weeks...if I don't hit 120 MPH then, I guess I'll have to be happy with 119 MPH for now...LOL.
Paul
Tony, Buying fish at the store is a lot cheaper and less time consuming than fishing for them...LOL!!
wow thats amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:cool:
Beaux
02-15-2004, 12:41 AM
congrats on the 119mph paul. I know this is a stupid question but you must be running a mercury because 119 mph is a wet dream with an omc.:D :D
Liberator25
02-15-2004, 09:40 AM
How many Horsepower in the JSRE motor? With enough HP everything is pretty fast;)
Techno
02-15-2004, 10:14 AM
How heavy is the boat in running trim and fishing trim?
Saw the bare hull number and at first thought it was total!
Paul Nichols
02-15-2004, 11:05 AM
The boat weighs 1025 lbs and the JSRE engine is around 360-370 HP (I think). I had a 800 lb 20CC Bullet bassboat with a stock Drag engine (with an XR-6 gearcase) that ran 117.3 MPH several years ago. I hope to try this engine on an 800 lb Bullet soon...speeds should be well into the 120's. This same boat with me (190 lbs) 8 gals of gas, one battery and a Mercury 250XS engine weighed 1860 lbs at the records runs a while back. This is not a light hull...it's very strong with 100% Kevlar.
Paul
PFord
02-15-2004, 01:06 PM
WOW 190 pounds!!!!!!! You are just about to catch me.:D :D :D
Jay Smith
02-15-2004, 03:40 PM
I'm on the Atkins diet and have lost 30 # got 20 more #'s to go 5'tall and 5'wide was having a toll on my legs and knees had to do something, Atkins WORKS !! See ya soon !
Jay
Paul Nichols
02-15-2004, 05:55 PM
Actually 188 lbs...I rounded up...LOL! I'm about 13-15 lbs over my peak fighting weight..LOL! I did the Atkins diet about 5 years ago and lost 38 lbs in about 2 1/2 months...I went from 200 lbs to 162 lbs. I need to get on the diet again...all I need is about 1/2 MPH with this boat and I'll be happy...LOL. The weather has been crapy for the last 2 months and I've been too lazy to go to the lake when it hasn't been crapy. I hope to do so more topend runs soon.
Paul
vishus
03-05-2004, 11:45 AM
Paul,
it has been a couple of weeks, has the weather been any better to allow you to get in some speed runs?
keep up the good work and keep it right side up!!
thx.sid
Paul Nichols
03-05-2004, 09:45 PM
I finally got the engine broke in after a new set of rings, now I'm ready to hit the water again. The boat has a full charge on the battery, 10 gals of race fuel in it, the engine is setup to the right height and a 28 ET on the shaft ready to go. Right now it's pouring down rain like piss out of a boot and the wind is blowing around 20-25 MPH...LOL! I'm going to try to make a pass or two next week if I get a chance. I've got another XR-6 gearcase I'm putting together that should run well if this one I'm running doesn't do the job...we'll see what happens.
Paul
Raceman
03-05-2004, 09:59 PM
Ever think about lettin' Jay drive the boat? Since he can't see over the steering wheel without sittin' on three boat cushions, there'd havta be less wind resistance.:D
Jay Smith
03-06-2004, 06:02 PM
I only need 2 !;)
ally2dextreme
03-07-2004, 09:49 AM
hey paul i see how you get so much speed out of them bullets JUST ROUND UP thanks
260BULLET
03-07-2004, 10:15 AM
Round up ???????
Paul Nichols
03-07-2004, 10:39 AM
LOL...Thomas when you come down next week I'll let you set in a fast boat if you'd like...I'd let you drive it, but this boat is a little out of your league...LOL! I've got a video of 2 or 3 119 MPH runs from inside the boat aimed at the GPS...I'll let you watch it so you can see what going fast really looks like...LOL!!!
Paul
1FASTLASER
03-12-2004, 05:56 AM
GREAT WORK PAUL. Just had to put my 2 cents worth in. Just goes to show ya that bass boats can be a real force to deal with. I have always had a dream of owning a bullet but due to funds you know the story. Keep up the good work and cant wait to hear from you after the gear case change. All you ally and triad and mirage stv owners etc..etc.. watch out hear comes a bass boat....OH NO HE PASSED ME ......hehehe
1FASTLASER
TurbooLarry
04-07-2004, 11:48 PM
Paul I would love to see your vidio tapes if they are on line to download. I have an old Sleekcraft sst- v-mod tunnel that I would love to see those numbers. Let me know if the vidios are there to see OK? Thanks and Great Job. Larry
Paul Nichols
04-08-2004, 07:55 PM
Larry, I don't have the video online. I just mounted a video camera in the boat aimed toward the GPS. I ran several 115-116 MPH runs on one day and I've got 2-3 runs at 119 MPH on the same tape. The camera is shaking pretty bad after about 114 MPH, but after I start slowing down the camera starts getting clear again(holding the top speed). The sound of the engine turning up to about 9000 RPMs gives me chill bumps everytime I watch the video...LOL. It's not the greatest footage, but I can mail it to you if you'd like, but I need it back...no big deal just let me know.
I ran the boat for topend Tuesday and Wednesday. I ran a total of about 15 runs at 116-119 MPH, but never went 120 MPH. On the last run I just about blew the boat over at 118 MPH when the boat rode up on the gearcase and started to kite. I think the boat would have run 120 MPH at 1/4'' higher, but water pressure was an issue and I didn't want to risk hurting the engine for 1 MPH. I've set the boat up for quickness now and don't plan to run the boat over 115 MPH anymore (mostly around 110 MPH). I know what the limit is on this boat and have been there about 5 times...no need to go there again and risk getting me or the boat hurt...LOL. I need a lighter boat (around 750-800 lbs) to run up into the 120's...I wish I still had my yellow 20CC!!!
Paul
CDave
04-08-2004, 08:01 PM
Paul, you gonna run some ODBA races?
Paul Nichols
04-08-2004, 08:29 PM
I may run the Bullet in Jasper this year, but I'm not 100% sure. I ran a Triad last year and had a lot of fun...I may try to run 2 boats this year. I like Jasper because it's only a 20 Min drive from my shop...LOL.
Paul
Jay Todd
06-23-2004, 05:26 AM
Paul,
I would like to say for all of the guys who own Bullet Bass Boats, Great Job! I like to know that someone like you is out their tweeking/ fine tuning the Bullet rigs with the 2.5 Merc. What a combination.
Thanks for all of your hard work and dedication. If I can ever be of assistance or provide any data in set up, please do not hesitate to call me. 706-485-9971 ext.16
Jay Todd "Bullet"
Paul Nichols
06-23-2004, 08:49 PM
Thanks Jay!! I bought another 20CC Super Comp a few days ago that's about 200 lbs lighter than the 20CC I'm running now. I hope to have it up and running in the next few months. Dale is going to build me an engine as soon as he get time...maybe this Winter when things slow down. This boat shouldn't have a problem breaking 120 MPH...I'll keep you posted!!!!
Hope to see you again in Jasper!!
Paul
TurbooLarry
06-23-2004, 11:54 PM
Paul I would love to see it and if you send it I could watch and send back. That would be Great I will send you an e-mail with my address . Thanks alot Larry
P.S. sorry it took so long to get back to ya, been busy trying to get the tunnel going.
Rodney Nance
06-24-2004, 02:21 AM
Dammit boy! I told you at Euchee I have the powerhead to get it done. Del built it and it is just sitting on the bench collecting dust. Get the boat setup and we will go for it. No need to wait for cooler weather this one has the balls to do it anytime.
Hack02
06-24-2004, 02:04 PM
Better make sure he puts it on a boat Rodney, He might try to get it hooked up to that blender he carries around.
Rodney Nance
06-24-2004, 06:23 PM
I don't know wich one is more dangerous a 120 mph bass boat or that blender. They will both hurt you.
Paul Nichols
06-24-2004, 06:54 PM
Larry, I'll mail you the video tomorrow!!!
Rodney, Were you serious about letting me run your engine...I just thought it was the beer talking...LOL!! That would be great...I'll have the boat ready in a few weeks. I'm having the boat fixed up so it looks new again and should have it back by the end of July for rigging and setup. I'll call you in the next few days!!!
Paul
Rodney Nance
06-24-2004, 07:28 PM
It may have been the Bloody Marys or the Daquris or the Margaritas but it was definitley not the beer talking. Seriously if you want to run it let me know.
CDave
06-24-2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Paul Nichols
Larry, I'll mail you the video tomorrow!!!
Rodney, Were you serious about letting me run your engine...I just thought it was the beer talking...LOL!! That would be great...I'll have the boat ready in a few weeks. I'm having the boat fixed up so it looks new again and should have it back by the end of July for rigging and setup. I'll call you in the next few days!!!
Paul
It's not a red 20CC is it?
C. Phillips
06-24-2004, 08:39 PM
nope, black and yellow 20CC. was posted on BBC.
goodmirage
06-24-2004, 09:07 PM
Hey Paul, good luck man, hope you get the 120 mark. You better get it in writing from Rodney.... He tends to forget things the next morning. lol
Hey Rodney, got the dates yet for the GA trip? Mike
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