I hope you guys are keeping up . . .

[Mark75H]

With the Gallery

link to the racing history section (http://forums.screamandfly.com/Gallery/showgallery.php?cat=503&si=&perpage=24&sort=2&stype=&ppuser=&[email protected])

[BK]

Sam,

I really hope the photographers are getting credit when they get posted over in the Scream and Fly gallery. Everytime I post any of my brothers pictures here on the forums I am always certain to give him some kind of credit for allowing me to put them up.

I'm very careful about this on the APBA site too. Some people get really ticked when their photos are lifted posted elsewhere so I dont do that without permission anymore. Besides, its not fair to them to not even mention who took the picture we are using.

They aren't charging a fee so giving them credit is the least we can do.

[Raceman]

Sam, I haven't been watchin' it. I appreciate you bringin' it up. There's a lot of neat stuff there.

[BK]

WOW!
I just went and checked it out too. Some really cool stuff I had never seen before!
Thanks Sam!

[Mark75H]

BK you are correct.

Sometimes I get an image and never repeat it anywhere because I don't have a clue as to who took it. An example of a picture I think is great is one of Dave Mason that Dave put up somewhere. I have not repeated it anywhere because Dave won't tell me who took it........it obviously wasn't him, he is in the picture.

One problem we have is that there is a lot of trouble with people saving images on their computer and not remembering where they came from.........and then later posting them somewhere else with no credit. (Usually because they are so excited to share what they have seen.)

A second problem is the conflict between current law and our culture. Few people know that current law gives full ownership and control of an image, written or spoken words automatically to the originator: whoever spoke, wrote or took them. Even if it is posted on the internet by that person or another, it still belongs to whoever took the picture.

Putting a picture on the internet is very confusing in our culture, because it gives the cultural signal that the image is being put into public domain for all to use freely................but LEGALLY it does not do that. About the only way that an image becomes public domain is for the owner to say "I freely put this image in public domain"

I think this will change in the near future, as our current situation is basically unpolicable. I think in the future if you do not "tag" an image with a watermark or imbedded text or text border and post it, lend it or otherwise allow it out of your possession.......you will be putting it into public domain. At that point, digital cameras will probably start coming with a tagging feature to make tagging automatic and easy.

My personal photos that I post I do freely give to public domain use with no restrictions,

EXCEPT those that I mark and explictly deny to public domain. Two that I can clearly recall are the Quincy Looper porting diagram with the holes labeled and the BP patent application image with the colored parts.

[Ron Hill]

That T 104 is the Switzer that that guy in Phoenix just bought....I never knew it was Lima Marine before Bobby Massey had it..

[heath brinkley]

thanks, I never noticed that before either.
cool stuff.