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NICE PAIR
05-02-2025, 07:51 AM
https://redstate.com/heartlandinstitute/2025/05/02/lessons-from-spain-and-portugal-about-solar-power-n2188588

David - WI
05-02-2025, 11:00 AM
On a Levelized Full System Costs of Electricity basis, accounting for subsidies and the costs of other power sources needed to backup, supplement, and regulate solar power, it is the most expensive source of electric power – 10 times more expensive than natural gas on a megawatt per hour basis, and greater than four times more expensive than coal.

All stuff we knew... but the lefties go all-in on every bad idea that comes up! :iagree:

CUDA
05-02-2025, 03:29 PM
“The underlying physics had been understood for years, and the specific vulnerabilities had been spelled out repeatedly in technical warnings that policymakers ignored,” wrote U.S. energy analyst Michael Shellenberger in a post on the event. “In 2017, ENTSO-E, the European Network of Transmission System Operators for Electricity, published a major report [that] concluded that the risk of cascading failures across Europe would increase unless governments invested heavily in synthetic inertia, large-scale storage, and smarter real-time grid management.

“In 2022, a team of researchers modeled the Spanish grid with large use of wind and solar and warned that, without significant investments in flexibility and inertia-providing technologies, the grid’s stability would be at risk,” Shellenberger continued.

U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright gets it. In an April 28 appearance on CNBC, he said, “It’s very sad to see what’s happened to Portugal and Spain and so many people there. But you know, when you hitch your wagon to the weather, it’s just a risky endeavor.”

David - WI
05-02-2025, 04:13 PM
Or, invest literally nothing and keep your coal and natural gas powerplants running.

XstreamVking
05-02-2025, 05:05 PM
Or, stop being stupid and endlessly chasing our tails. Just by simply using those funds and investing in the actual working electric grid we already have in place. The money wasted on the "green" crap could have gone a LONG way toward real energy production and distribution.
As long as stupid people have their way this energy deficit will continue and get worse.

Edit... Dang Dave we had the same slant on this fiasco. Seems both of us being forward thinking people, we know the REAL solution to our power struggles.

Shaun K
05-02-2025, 05:47 PM
Or, invest literally nothing and keep your coal and natural gas powerplants running.

Can't manufacture sht w/o cheap energy, that's why China is opening coal plants every other day. Climate change & the greentard agenda was constructed to deindustrialize. This banker Carney who won in Canada is a Net Zero guy, they are fked.

XstreamVking
05-02-2025, 06:14 PM
We also may lose the power we now get from our Canadian friends.....Depends how far left they actually go...

David - WI
05-03-2025, 01:44 PM
We also may lose the power we now get from our Canadian friends.....Depends how far left they actually go...

We aren't going to need it. President Trump is opening up federal lands to drilling & mining along with expedited permitting. The Canadians are going to be buying (cheaper) energy from US in the near future.


President Trump's energy executive orders focus on deregulating energy production, promoting domestic fossil fuel use, and rolling back environmental regulations. These actions aim to boost American energy innovation and production while challenging state climate policies.

CUDA
05-04-2025, 06:18 PM
DELUSIONAL

Delusional disorder is a challenging condition to treat. People with this condition will rarely admit that their beliefs are delusions or are problematic, and will therefore rarely seek out treatment.

NICE PAIR
05-04-2025, 06:51 PM
DELUSIONAL

Delusional disorder is a challenging condition to treat. People with this condition will rarely admit that their beliefs are delusions or are problematic, and will therefore rarely seek out treatment.

It appears that you are good @ self defining the issues, you could use a tune-up on the treatment. :D