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skialot2
08-14-2023, 04:50 PM
I want to put a hot foot throttle in my boat.

I still want to be able to use the side mount controls when going through the slow zones.

Is there a kit to hook up both? Thanks

pcrussell50
08-14-2023, 10:37 PM
I want to put a hot foot throttle in my boat.

I still want to be able to use the side mount controls when going through the slow zones.

Is there a kit to hook up both? Thanks

My Viper has a hot foot. And while I haven’t driven it in ages (wife HATES it), it’s easy peasy IMHO to drive it slowly.

Just guessing but is that what you were concerned about?

-Peter

VkingMike
08-15-2023, 06:59 AM
This is an easy modification.

It's as simple as unbolting the side mount control and removing the throttle cable from the internal mechanism ( and rest of the boat). Then get yourself a longer throttle cable and run it to your new hot foot. The shifter will still function normally with the throttle cable removed from the box.

tlwjkw
08-15-2023, 11:44 AM
This is an easy modification.

It's as simple as unbolting the side mount control and removing the throttle cable from the internal mechanism ( and rest of the boat). Then get yourself a longer throttle cable and run it to your new hot foot. The shifter will still function normally with the throttle cable removed from the box.

if i'm understanding what he's askin' he wants "both" to control speed... he doesn't like holding it at a slow speed thru long no wake zones with his foot....

i've never seen anything like what he's wanting to do but it may be out there somewhere.............:confused:

VkingMike
08-15-2023, 11:46 AM
Ahhh, yeah I wouldn't trust setting it up like that. Too much could go wrong.

James45157
08-15-2023, 12:44 PM
Ahhh, yeah I wouldn't trust setting it up like that. Too much could go wrong.
land and sea used to make a unit so you had both hand and foot control no longer in business might find a used one some where ask around

skialot2
08-15-2023, 01:32 PM
if i'm understanding what he's askin' he wants "both" to control speed... he doesn't like holding it at a slow speed thru long no wake zones with his foot....

Exactly. Sound like i will have to design something and make it myself.

pcrussell50
08-15-2023, 01:37 PM
if i'm understanding what he's askin' he wants "both" to control speed... he doesn't like holding it at a slow speed thru long no wake zones with his foot....

i've never seen anything like what he's wanting to do but it may be out there somewhere.............:confused:

Agree ��

And I thought the same thing you did… Which was that the OP wanted BOTH a hot foot and a way to control the throttle with the hand remote, “through the slow zones”.

Since he didn’t say otherwise, I was assuming the OP was afraid you couldn’t drive slowly with a hot foot. So I offered my experience that it’s just as easy to drive slowly with a foot throttle as it is with a hand throttle.

-Peter

KIRCHNER
08-15-2023, 02:46 PM
Agree ��

And I thought the same thing you did… Which was that the OP wanted BOTH a hot foot and a way to control the throttle with the hand remote, “through the slow zones”.

Since he didn’t say otherwise, I was assuming the OP was afraid you couldn’t drive slowly with a hot foot. So I offered my experience that it’s just as easy to drive slowly with a foot throttle as it is with a hand throttle.

-Peter Just bring an assortment of sticks, color coded for diff speeds, hee haw.

tlwjkw
08-15-2023, 03:11 PM
Just bring an assortment of sticks, color coded for diff speeds, hee haw.

don't laugh!.. i had a notched stick for that reason... was my "river" stick...............:p

John S
08-15-2023, 03:21 PM
I want to put a hot foot throttle in my boat.

I still want to be able to use the side mount controls when going through the slow zones.

Is there a kit to hook up both? Thanks

I also remember the land n sea unit. If you're interested in this, maybe drop control or TH marine an email. They can probably make what you're looking for. It could be fabricated somewhat easily by a machine shop, but there would be some trial and error in the design, getting the foot feed cable to "float" while using the hand controls, and the hand control's cable to do the same while the foot feed is being used. Remember, the hand controls works on a "detent", for lack of a better word, holding it in place, while the foot feed is spring return. Not impossible to create, but some definite back and forth trips to the supply house. My guess is the above mentioned vendors could point you in the correct direction. How do the old skool multi helm units work? Maybe that's the direction???

Seeing the OP's handle, I would say the hand throttle would be more suited to skiing moreso than the foot feed being a hindrance in the slow wakes. My buddies never could get the right feel for the foot feed when pulling me, as they were all hand throttle guys coming from ski boats.

KIRCHNER
08-15-2023, 07:00 PM
don't laugh!.. i had a notched stick for that reason... was my "river" stick...............:p
I was serious for real, works every time, my 40mph stick was my favorite. we not crazy!

AlliStan
08-15-2023, 08:22 PM
If your idle speed is set up right why can't you just idle through the no wake zones ......... foot off the hot foot?

hydra-sports
08-15-2023, 08:34 PM
Ahhh, yeah I wouldn't trust setting it up like that. Too much could go wrong.

Agreed! Not on these older motors with cables. I've seen some of the newer electronic run motors have that capability. So on these older 2 strokes just choose either hand or foot

tlwjkw
08-16-2023, 12:59 AM
If your idle speed is set up right why can't you just idle through the no wake zones ......... foot off the hot foot?

mine wasn't for idle speed it was more for a slower "cruising" speed.. 90% of my junk idled at 1100 or more..

derekfl
08-16-2023, 04:54 AM
or something like a car cruise control. use fixed hand throttle as primary with the hot foot able to open throttle wider without moving hand lever. just be sure hand throttle isn't open too far when driving with foot. could be unpleasant surprise when you lift up and find you are still on the gas. flybridge boats also have dual throttles to each motor. might be worth checking junk boats to see how they are connected.

LakeFever
08-16-2023, 05:34 AM
I tried to seek this out for a while as well. A good suggestion was to run two cables to the throttle arm. One for foot, one for hand controls. Pop the engine cover open and switch to the cable you want to use. While not in real time it seemed the safest option. There was bad reviews on that land and sea dual throttle deal. Safety problems so i would steer clear of that. Tnels iirc was working on this with a new part from some swedish made dual throttle system. The pics looked good.

Paul Vaillancourt
08-16-2023, 10:22 AM
I have a land and sea foot throttle on my boat and the way it works is that the hand throttle has a cable that goes down to the foot throttle then the foot throttle goes to the motor.
So you can use the hand throttle to go up to say 2000rpm then when you hit the foot throttle it will speed up from there but when you let off the motor still does not go below where you have the hand throttle set.

skialot2
08-16-2023, 04:14 PM
I have a land and sea foot throttle on my boat and the way it works is that the hand throttle has a cable that goes down to the foot throttle then the foot throttle goes to the motor.
So you can use the hand throttle to go up to say 2000rpm then when you hit the foot throttle it will speed up from there but when you let off the motor still does not go below where you have the hand throttle set.

This is exactly what I want. Can you send me a picture of how the cables are attached to the foot throttle? Please.

Carter Powell
08-16-2023, 10:27 PM
In-Control made a setup just exactly as you want. They are out of business and that is a shame. I have one of their foot throttles with the hand throttle adapter for over twenty years and it works like a Swiss watch. You can still get their foot throttles from CP Performance in Calif. The hand throttle adapter system is no longer available. I have thought about taking mine out of the boat and taking pictures of it. I still have the original manual showing how to hook it up and to set it for use. If you can find one of these you have found gold.

Carter Powell

Paul Vaillancourt
08-17-2023, 04:01 PM
[don’t think these will help much cause you can’t see how it works but here are some pics
QUOTE=skialot2;3398634]This is exactly what I want. Can you send me a picture of how the cables are attached to the foot throttle? Please.[/QUOTE]

skialot2
03-26-2024, 09:43 PM
After searching for a long time, it seems nobody makes anything like this anymore. I decided to make my own. It ended up being very simple. I bought a used Merc/OMC Hotfoot. I bored out the OMC cable mount hole to fit a Merc cable.
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I took a shift bracket and slide from a L4.

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Did a little machining on the back of the bracket.

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Took the slide and cut the attachment studs off. They were in the wrong spot. Wrapped some cardboard around it as a mold. Filled it up with some JB Weld to make it flat.

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Drilled and tapped the slide block to attach the cable. I can use the hand control anywhere up to about 3/4 throttle. The rest has to be with the foot throttle. But that's ok, I really only want to use the hand throttle when going slow.

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moatorbotin
03-27-2024, 12:10 PM
I have the land n sea in my boat, it's great, so nice to not have to run the hot foot in long no wakes

David - WI
03-27-2024, 10:28 PM
Not super helpful, but this is the catalog page for the L&S "Dual-Action" foot throttle...

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