View Full Version : Photos of propeller tessting with the LCB today
JPEROG
02-19-2022, 11:47 PM
Well I can tell you that the LCB is going to be a good lake/river boat. We ran a bunch of propellers 30 Drag 5, 32 Mad EFI 4 blade, 34 Mad EFI 4 blade, 32 5 blade Hering T/H, 37 Hering four blade O/H, 36 four blade Hydromotive T/H, 33 max 5, 34 max 5, Modified 36 Bravo, and 34 CNC Merc 5 blade.
The boat does different things with each but for overall everyday use, the Max 5 is smooth and comes on plane with zero shake or effort. The modified 36 Bravo ran great numbers at 111 mph @ 5400 but accel and planing performance don't make it my top choice. The 34 Merc CNC is my 2nd choice with basically the same numbers as the Bravo but its an expensive one to run for everyday river use. My first choice is the MAD EFI or the Max 5. This will be a true 110 mph rig with people and fuel. Its what I was shooting for on 87 octane and some rough water capability. Looking forward to running the Suwanee with everyone next month.
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Joe
Instigator
02-20-2022, 08:33 AM
Amazing stuff Joe.
What our boats are now capable of, w/the new, available power.
Reminds me of the new muscle cars vs our old big blocks of the ‘60’s/70’s.
What used to take a race car w/a plate, we can now do w/the air on!
In our hobby, what used to take a 550 lb potato chip w/a high strung, race fuel, no low end, shut off to shift, open exhaust, perfect water etc, etc, we can now do in a 1500 lb boat w/3 friends, in chop, w/the stereo on!
In full disclosure, I can’t afford any of it but that doesn’t stop it from being baddd asss!
Congrats snd thx for sharing Joe.
XstreamVking
02-20-2022, 08:41 AM
I agree, a bad azz boat. Quite easy on the eyes too.....Since it planes off so well with the max 5, I would be leaning toward running it.
DangerNewb
02-20-2022, 08:45 AM
Can't tell from the pics. 300 or 450?
hellbents-10
02-20-2022, 09:23 AM
Awesome results with a single!!!! I sorta kinda want to go to the dark side and get one of those 300r’s
https://madefi.com/shop/ols/categories/propellers-accessories?olsFocus=false
That sounds like fun!
That was a 300r on what boat?
JPEROG
02-20-2022, 12:57 PM
That was a 300r on what boat?
My 4 year LCB project.... I have another one (fishing deck version) still in process-
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Joe
Thanks Joe.Boat looks great , I thought they just built fishing boats?It's amazing how big those wheels are and the speeds they crank out.
Really nice, the transom pic in post one is amazing looking.
Rak Rua
02-20-2022, 07:25 PM
Cool! Thanks for posting. Looks like the perfect rig and setup for the size. I want one!
I've seen that Chrome exhaust do-Hickey on the back of the engine on previous pictures. What's it do?
Thanks
The do-hickey makes a beautiful sound!
Theres a 15 sec YouTube video of one idling past a jetty, to the OP, is it you’re one?
(Only saw it once, can’t find it now….)
RR
JPEROG
02-20-2022, 07:54 PM
Its an exhaust cut out. We were experimenting on what it would do for improved planing if we took some of the exhaust pressure off the blades. It is operated on a remote servo-I have on my Tri-toon as well. They freak people out when you start and outboard and it sounds like a corvette with flowmasters on it.
Joe
fast1200gp
02-20-2022, 08:11 PM
Boat looks amazing any interior pictures?
JPEROG
02-21-2022, 10:39 AM
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Joe
oldschoolltv
02-21-2022, 10:52 AM
That turned out so nice, great all around boat for lakes, bays, rivers etc…
JPEROG
02-21-2022, 12:29 PM
When you know the vision that you are after its hard not to change things and make it yours. These LCB boats (for a 20 footer) do more then any other that I have been exposed to. We have over 500 man hours in body work and structure additions in this project. Everything takes time, trailer (wait), paint (wait), interior (wait), but its yours when its finally done.
My most recent boat I bought like a steak dinner at Ruth's Chris- (DONE) and ready to enjoy. Its a faster process but always something to add or change even at the top level (its a bit of a sickness) lol...
Joe
About how much weight did you add?
Air It Out
02-21-2022, 05:59 PM
Turned out amazing Joe! Not that I expected anything less
TooStroked
02-21-2022, 06:54 PM
Its an exhaust cut out. We were experimenting on what it would do for improved planing if we took some of the exhaust pressure off the blades. It is operated on a remote servo-I have on my Tri-toon as well. They freak people out when you start and outboard and it sounds like a corvette with flowmasters on it.
Joe
Joe,
You wouldn't happen to have any audio of that cutout open would you?
JLanier571
02-21-2022, 08:47 PM
Thanks Joe.Boat looks great , I thought they just built fishing boats?It's amazing how big those wheels are and the speeds they crank out.
We also make a pleasure deck with different styles, like Joes, and a hybrid deck that has an insert to make the front cockpit more aerodynamic.
JLanier571
02-21-2022, 08:49 PM
Can you email the pics to us Joe?
Laniercustomboats@outlook.com
JPEROG
02-21-2022, 09:22 PM
Joe,
You wouldn't happen to have any audio of that cutout open would you?
I will get some when I get back in town. We are headed North to ride for a couple weeks.
Joe
JPEROG
02-21-2022, 09:26 PM
About how much weight did you add?
Boat hull weighs 1650 done. Everything we added is composite that was laid up by Doug Wright and is taped in with carbon. I never weighed it before we started but I am guessing 300 lbs.-never wanted it to be light or be a drag boat. I want stuff strong enough to never shy away from Lk. George.
Joe
JPEROG
02-21-2022, 10:09 PM
Can you email the pics to us Joe?
Laniercustomboats@outlook.com
I sent a bunch over
Joe
FUJIMO
02-23-2022, 11:43 AM
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FUJIMO
02-23-2022, 11:43 AM
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XstreamVking
02-23-2022, 01:11 PM
What's up with the seats? Cool boat and i'm sure very fast.
aj06bolt12r
02-23-2022, 02:54 PM
That is an awesome rig. Congrats!
TooStroked
02-23-2022, 04:38 PM
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You can get a 300R without a Sport Master lower?
Those boats have an impressive pedigree.
Cockpit looks great, Clean and simple.
Speed Jr.
02-23-2022, 09:13 PM
You can get a 300R without a Sport Master lower?
Of course
Forkin' Crazy
02-25-2022, 02:26 PM
Wow, what a stunning boat. Very nice!
eyeloveboats
03-21-2022, 01:05 PM
can you put any pictures of rour fastest props
Turborr
03-27-2022, 07:21 PM
Joe, do you consider the Mad Efi prop a equal replacement for the Pro Et?
Jim Speros
03-27-2022, 09:37 PM
Joe, What a sweet boat you created. I had no idea LCB built a boat like yours. I am an old Fan of Errol. I loved the way he ran with Kiaser. I recently spoke with Todd of Wicked boats in Englewood this past November. Great guy with a great boat. He apparently worked with Errol on his Wicked cat. I watched his Run in Key West on live stream too. I immediately became a fan of his after watching the way he ran in the Worlds. Podium finishes in both Championship Events. It is refreshing to see a boat created that is not a copy of something else. I find that especially worthy of praise these days.
I am now a fan of your creation Joe. Simple awesome!
berdes
03-28-2022, 08:53 AM
Joe,
You wouldn't happen to have any audio of that cutout open would you?
Found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6ZxCHW4nHM
JPEROG
03-29-2022, 02:25 PM
Joe, do you consider the Mad Efi prop a equal replacement for the Pro Et?
I really like them. I am going to try a Hill 5 blade clever thru hub next time out.
Joe
JPEROG
03-29-2022, 02:27 PM
Joe,
You wouldn't happen to have any audio of that cutout open would you?
I will have my son take some the next time we are out playing.
Joe
Speed Jr.
03-29-2022, 05:05 PM
I really like them. I am going to try a Hill 5 blade clever thru hub next time out.
Joe
I also ordered a Hill thru hub, comes in next week. Hope to be ready for the water next week also. Ttyl. :cheers:
DangerNewb
03-29-2022, 05:18 PM
Let us know how they work for you. I'm going with Hill thru hubs on my Liberator also. Hope to not give up too much, if any, top end as a trade off for easier getting on plane.
JPEROG
03-29-2022, 05:44 PM
I also ordered a Hill thru hub, comes in next week. Hope to be ready for the water next week also. Ttyl. :cheers:
I talked to Dave and he said you guys were still dealing with crappy weather. I plan to swing thru and run with you guys for a day when I drag the boat South for its new brackets to be installed. -- Maybe 12 or 15 days from now.
Joe
JPEROG
03-29-2022, 05:46 PM
Let us know how they work for you. I'm going with Hill thru hubs on my Liberator also. Hope to not give up too much, if any, top end as a trade off for easier getting on plane.
Whats your goal? My thought is you will run 115 every time and few better when all the stars line up. I am curious to see what the barrel flare does--hoping it will lift my big ole' girl a bit.
Joe
DangerNewb
03-29-2022, 06:04 PM
Whats your goal? My thought is you will run 115 every time and few better when all the stars line up. I am curious to see what the barrel flare does--hoping it will lift my big ole' girl a bit.
Joe
If it runs 115 with the thru hubs I'll be very happy. I haven't seen one in person so wasn't sure if they had a flare or not. It will be interesting to see how it behaves. My last 25 liberator had 32 bblades blasters on it. They ran fine. I tried a pair of merc 3 blade clevers one time and they had a lot of mid range slip and also felt like the rear end was loose once up into the 90mph range. I only ran them once. We'll see how these run.
JPEROG
03-29-2022, 08:59 PM
The best propellers for that boat (IMO) will be a set of DeWald thru hub 5 blades with the tips rounded bringing them to 14 7/8 dia. overall w/18 degrees of rake. The downside is wait time and cost. I think you will see Mercury come out with something very similar. Planing is effortless, they are feather smooth and efficient due to the fact that there is always blade contact and they have proven to be fast in testing and on the race course.
Joe
Turborr
03-30-2022, 06:27 AM
The best propellers for that boat (IMO) will be a set of DeWald thru hub 5 blades with the tips rounded bringing them to 14 7/8 dia. overall w/18 degrees of rake. The downside is wait time and cost. I think you will see Mercury come out with something very similar. Planing is effortless, they are feather smooth and efficient due to the fact that there is always blade contact and they have proven to be fast in testing and on the race course.
Joe
Not to hijack this thread....but is this advise the same for a heavy 21 splash?
JPEROG
03-30-2022, 07:29 AM
Not to hijack this thread....but is this advise the same for a heavy 21 splash?
He is running twin 300R motors on his new 25.
Joe
river rocket
03-30-2022, 08:10 AM
Thanks, lots of great information here. We are hanging the motor on mine tomorrow Joe. Hopefully, if I ordered all the right DTS cable lengths it will be ready to run for ice out in Minnesota mid to late April.
I have a 32 Promax, 32P3 BC, two different 32 P4BC's, 32 P3, 32 P4 SC, 34 P4 BC. Fastbass has a few Max 5's, a Madefi prop, and 2-3 Merc Cleavers we want to run.
Getting excited to see how they run and to start shooting some videos again.
JPEROG
03-30-2022, 08:37 AM
Thanks, lots of great information here. We are hanging the motor on mine tomorrow Joe. Hopefully, if I ordered all the right DTS cable lengths it will be ready to run for ice out in Minnesota mid to late April.
I have a 32 Promax, 32P3 BC, two different 32 P4BC's, 32 P3, 32 P4 SC, 34 P4 BC. Fastbass has a few Max 5's, a Madefi prop, and 2-3 Merc Cleavers we want to run.
Getting excited to see how they run and to start shooting some videos again.
Start thinking about a gear case pick up mod or remote pick up.
Joe
Speed Jr.
03-30-2022, 08:07 PM
I talked to Dave and he said you guys were still dealing with crappy weather. I plan to swing thru and run with you guys for a day when I drag the boat South for its new brackets to be installed. -- Maybe 12 or 15 days from now.
Joe
I just finished all the rigging. Dropping the interior back in now. I may be backing her in this weekend....Unlike Kirk I'll send it regardless of the weather. :D. Lmk when your coming.
Jr.
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