New 42 DW wide body with 450s

[JPEROG]

The crew at Performance Boat Center ran the first 42 Wright Performance wide tunnel today and recorded a top speed of 118 on the limiters. Andy reported that the boat had 4 people and 90 gallons of fuel "the increased air really helps carry the load and acceleration is impressive". They have another set of propellers coming tomorrow and expect to see speeds in the low 120s. Incredible performance for a boat of this size and only two outboards producing 900 hp.

Joe

[David]

The speed is impressive, would it accelerate well?

[wicheckmate]

More air is from the "widebody" not motorwork...

[mikesufka]

Any Pics ?

MDS

[JBS]

It's amazing how two big outboards can push a big boat that fast. Also that would be a good offshore class, maybe open outboard?

[CUDA]

That's one big boat house

would need a $100,000 trailer and a real truck to move It.

What we looking at $600,-700,000 that's a

www.offshoreonly.com boat.

[JPEROG]

There are several very active board members here that also have big boats Jim. One of the guys in Astor has two new Doug Wrights being built, he will keep one there and one at his lake house at LOTO. I think the 42 is somewhere in the 700K range (a little less then then the 39 MTI which has a 12 or 15 order back log). There are over 20 boats on order/in production at Doug's. My point of posting this to share the incredible performance numbers being produced out of the new products. It wasn't that long ago that most guys struggled to get an 800 lbs small hull to run 120 with modified power (including my self). And forget running 15 or 20 miles at those speeds.

The new motors take a serious pounding being strapped to hulls that can maintain these speeds. In the recent past, you had to let out due to water conditions and that gave the power a relief break-today, not so much....

Different world now-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgGDARxfSSI

Joe

[Brad Zastrow]

I agree with Joe. This is about outboards. 900 hp pushing a 42' boat to those speeds is really impressive. Driving large cats it is not about how they accelerate it is all about how they handle big water and comfortable cruising speeds.

[JBS]

It's crazy how fast these new boats are going. And these stock motors on production boats,

[mikesufka]

I agree with Joe. This is about outboards. 900 hp pushing a 42' boat to those speeds is really impressive. Driving large cats it is not about how they accelerate it is all about how they handle big water and comfortable cruising speeds.

I just can't believe the gearcases are holding up ( I think they are ? ) on these 450's - I keep thinking if I lay on my 28 for miles and miles, I'm gonna be buying a bunch of gear cases. Very impressive indeed - I want one, but make mine a Skater :)

MDS

[JPEROG]

UPDATE: Myrick Coil and Rusty Williams just had the boat out after moving motor positions, burning off fuel, (down to 40 gallons), and bolting on a set of 5 blade mercury racing CNC 37 pitch propellers ran the boat to an amazing 128 mph. This stuff continues to amaze me and outboard power is only getting better. I am both excited and scared to see where this all ends. Boats of this size and weighing 7500 lbs or less at these speeds are not good in the hands of many.

Joe

[JPEROG]

I just can't believe the gearcases are holding up ( I think they are ? ) on these 450's - I keep thinking if I lay on my 28 for miles and miles, I'm gonna be buying a bunch of gear cases. Very impressive indeed - I want one, but make mine a Skater :)

MDS

Mike,

This is an early invitation to come out to the lake next year and drive my new boat with me. (Make mine a skater will leave your vocabulary). I now have two skaters and have had 7 others in the past--trust me "better, better, better" no tank issues, no balsa, and refined handling along with speed that you need to experience first hand. If you want to do it before then we can take the Performance demo boat out anytime.

Joe

[Speed Jr.]

That's some unreal numbers for a 42 footer. Its exciting to see the development of big HP Outboards. When's your 39 going to ready Joe?

Jr.

[JPEROG]

There is one coming out of the mold "race boat", then Performance gets their demo., then mine. I am hoping for March or April but really don't care until motors are updated and available. It is going to get painted and rigged at Performance so that process will be way faster then I have ever personally experienced. You are guys are going to have to come out spend a few days with Paul, Dave, and us.

Joe

[Brad Zastrow]

I agree, Skater has fallen behind with the o/b cat market. I have owned 3 Skaters in the past. I can say the MTI's and DW's are in another league right now. These brands have the fit, finish, design and no fiberglass gas tanks. I would never order a new Skater with a glass tank. I do not care what coating they put in those tanks. Still an issue for me.

[JPEROG]

I agree, Skater has fallen behind with the o/b cat market. I have owned 3 Skaters in the past. I can say the MTI's and DW's are in another league right now. These brands have the fit, finish, design and no fiberglass gas tanks. I would never order a new Skater with a glass tank. I do not care what coating they put in those tanks. Still an issue for me.

The use of balsa core is mind boggling as well. We now have closed cell multi density foam core available that is consistent in every square inch. Balsa is a natural product that varies in density from one area to the next, it absorbs moisture, and breaks down with water intrusion. The blow cycle testing with new high density core Vs. balsa is also a different league. There are two advantages to balsa 1. Its readily available and 2. Its cheap. When my 97' 24 Skater was built, (my brother who bought the boat new), paid Pete extra to try "this new foam stuff" in the sides of the boat--Pete refused to use it in the running surface. The results 20 years later are this:

494782 Foam in the hull sides is still perfect.494783Balsa in the running surface, not so much....

When the Balsa either pounds out to powder or gets wet, it allows the outer skin to flex and eventually break open. Then running surface gets peeled back at the break with hydraulic pressure (hope you are close to shore and the boat doesn't do something stupid if and when this occurs). We caught this on inspection during some modifications we were experimenting with and ended up cutting the entire running surface out of the boat. A normal guy would have scraped it.

Joe

[Charli]

The use of balsa core is mind boggling as well. We now have closed cell multi density foam core available that is consistent in every square inch. Balsa is a natural product that varies in density from one area to the next, it absorbs moisture, and breaks down with water intrusion. The blow cycle testing with new high density core Vs. balsa is also a different league. There are two advantages to balsa 1. Its readily available and 2. Its cheap. When my 97' 24 Skater was built, (my brother who bought the boat new), paid Pete extra to try "this new foam stuff" in the sides of the boat--Pete refused to use it in the running surface. The results 20 years later are this:

494782 Foam in the hull sides is still perfect.494783Balsa in the running surface, not so much....

When the Balsa either pounds out to powder or gets wet, it allows the outer skin to flex and eventually break open. Then running surface gets peeled back at the break with hydraulic pressure (hope you are close to shore and the boat doesn't do something stupid if and when this occurs). We caught this on inspection during some modifications we were experimenting with and ended up cutting the entire running surface out of the boat. A normal guy would have scraped it.

Joe

That's amazing. I have experienced it first hand when I purchased a used 40 Skater. "Nicest in the country" Right....every big Skater is wet and rotten, people just don't go far enough like you did to see it. My deck had to be removed and replaced. A nightmare that took me out of boating for years.

[CUDA]

GOLLY

I remember when a 22 footer was big for a outboard

42 golly ...

I'm holding out for the 50 with Todd's HP kits

Just how fast does one have to go ?

I've been looking at trawlers to beat around the east coast with a mod 11 inch pad Hydrostream open bow 17 foot with a cut down Laser 200 dinghy...

140 MPH here we come

I'm good for 120 then I start thinking

what If...

[Will hedrick]

Finally got the boat out today Joe, man that thing is a power house, I got through 1 1/2 hours of break in, I can't wait to strip this thing one time :smiletest:

[Capt.Insane-o]

The use of balsa core is mind boggling as well. We now have closed cell multi density foam core available that is consistent in every square inch. Balsa is a natural product that varies in density from one area to the next, it absorbs moisture, and breaks down with water intrusion. The blow cycle testing with new high density core Vs. balsa is also a different league. There are two advantages to balsa 1. Its readily available and 2. Its cheap. When my 97' 24 Skater was built, (my brother who bought the boat new), paid Pete extra to try "this new foam stuff" in the sides of the boat--Pete refused to use it in the running surface. The results 20 years later are this:

494782 Foam in the hull sides is still perfect.494783Balsa in the running surface, not so much....

When the Balsa either pounds out to powder or gets wet, it allows the outer skin to flex and eventually break open. Then running surface gets peeled back at the break with hydraulic pressure (hope you are close to shore and the boat doesn't do something stupid if and when this occurs). We caught this on inspection during some modifications we were experimenting with and ended up cutting the entire running surface out of the boat. A normal guy would have scraped it.

Joe

Years ago.. when I did my first stream recore I used foam core and all the experts told me the boat would turn to dust... hmm... ;) that was 1996.