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hydroViper235
04-30-2021, 07:12 AM
Which is faster?

rock
04-30-2021, 07:38 AM
I have had both and feel the Vking is easier to drive at wot. My Vector was faster but it had a bit more motor and I had modified the bottom to be more like a Vking. Filled in the concave and straightened the bottom plus widened the pad 1/2" each side. Rode better and was faster than stock.

Rock

hydroViper235
04-30-2021, 08:01 AM
Got any pictures of vector hull mods?

LakeFever
04-30-2021, 09:23 AM
Seems like most of the insane builds are vectors. Love my vking and Valero’s though. Fun boats

theres been some chatter about the Venus having the most all out potential.

hydroViper235
04-30-2021, 09:46 AM
I think the vking and vector look the best out of the bunch

XstreamVking
04-30-2021, 10:11 AM
I have ran alongside of some Vectors with my V-King. It is as fast, or even faster sometimes with the same power. Remember, every one of the streams is an individual boat with its own character. The one that really stands out for performance is the Venom. Power to power it is the fastest IMO.

rock
04-30-2021, 11:41 AM
here ya go

XstreamVking
04-30-2021, 11:51 AM
Real nice Vector Rock. What was the outcome speed increase wise from before the mods to after?

LakeFever
04-30-2021, 12:12 PM
Looks great Rock! If I do a second one I will do that two step pad.

rock
04-30-2021, 12:39 PM
I owned that boat 4 or 5 times. Been a while and the old memry ain't what it once was. It had from 90 to 200 horse motors on it. With the deuce and me driving it ran well into the 90s which was after the bottom mods. Before the mods the biggest motor I drove it with was a 150 which ran about 70. I made the bottom changes cuz I did not like the way it drove with the concave. Seemed to run a little wetter than it should. Bad side with the mods was it crabbed a bit under full throttle. Just a slight pull to the right but once you hit wot it was fine. Wish I had driven it with the 200 before the mods but the pad had some issues from the previous owner that I felt had top be addressed before the 200. It currently has a 2.4 225 and I think he still running around 90 or so.

Rock

scott reierson
04-30-2021, 12:55 PM
Now that looks great.

Love that hardware selection on the back wall!. You got the disease just as bad as I do!

Thanks for taking my call awhile back. Much appreciated.

hydroViper235
04-30-2021, 01:16 PM
Looks awesome rock

rock
04-30-2021, 02:26 PM
Now that looks great.

Love that hardware selection on the back wall!. You got the disease just as bad as I do!

Thanks for taking my call awhile back. Much appreciated.

We had two hardware stores I did a lot of business with go out of business when the big box clowns started showing up. Invested heavily in hardware and metal supplies. Used a ton of it and still have a ton of it. That little display has saved me from running into town a million times. I enjoyed our conversation as well.

Rock

Capt.Insane-o
04-30-2021, 04:58 PM
486310

Vector. I'm not even going to mention the motor or numbers because I really shouldn't be doing this activity in these boats again but that is a 29 on there and the rev limiter is set at 8500 and it has no problem whatsoever dinging the limter. 6th boat out of the mold in 1976 and I haven't touched the bottom, well the running surface anyway. 15 inch motor bolted to the transom.

Bodhi
04-30-2021, 05:47 PM
Nice stream pics!
Has anyone seen any significant increase in speed by going 15" mid on these? I've often thought about cutting mine down for center of gravity purposes

LakeFever
05-01-2021, 08:03 AM
Captain and Fujimo, two members with more gofast boat know how than 90% of the rest of us put together and both you guys like motors bolted to stream transoms no set back.


Hmmm.... I sure would like to try both plate and no plate/set back on the same hull just to see.

XstreamVking
05-01-2021, 09:38 AM
Count me in on the no setback. I run a 5'' old land and sea for the ease of it. When I 1st got my King i had a 245 BP bolted to the trans as high as it could go. Sucked for carrying passengers or when it was rough. Forget skiing.

Capt.Insane-o
05-01-2021, 10:18 AM
If people want to ski they can go buy their own boat. This one has one seat in it for a reason.

The V kings move too much air off the front. Better boat all around but you start playing around after 110 you better be paying attention. This is where the hook on the vector is beneficial if you work with it instead of against it.

rock
05-01-2021, 11:10 AM
Lynn pm your address

BUZZIN' DOZEN
05-01-2021, 11:25 AM
2 words, "Southern Comfort" :cool:

XstreamVking
05-01-2021, 02:35 PM
Had mine up to 100. Was plenty fast for me. Conditions had to be "just right" to push it. (the trim button, I mean) I'm happy with the 80's now.

P man
05-01-2021, 07:14 PM
Every boat is different but my Vking was as easy to drive north of 110 as it was at 80. I’ve had both and would personally stick with the king all day long.

hydroViper235
05-01-2021, 07:20 PM
What was different about the king?

Capt.Insane-o
05-01-2021, 08:17 PM
Frontal area. There is a reason guys like Allisons..they are like a needle through the air, while Hydrostreams were developed in the low horse power years and used air to an advantage.

LakeFever
05-02-2021, 04:28 AM
Every boat is different but my Vking was as easy to drive north of 110 as it was at 80. I’ve had both and would personally stick with the king all day long.


Awesome! what was your set up for this rig?

Da Bull
05-02-2021, 07:46 AM
I raced from 1977 through the 80`s when the Hydrostream was in it`s hayday and the common rule of thumb (with the power available at the time) was that Vectors were for drag racing and Vikings were for circle racing. Two many lifting strakes under a Vector to turn well but those strakes made it launch hard and clean up fast. Look at the Viking bottom and you see a rough water closed course race boat. I had both and IMO the rule is true.

hydroViper235
06-03-2021, 08:07 AM
Anymore input?

Scream And Fly
06-04-2021, 05:06 AM
I have owned both, and my personal preference has always been for the V-King/Viking. I agree with rock in that the V-King is easier to pilot at WOT. From my experience, the Vector was more skittish than the V-King, which I think is a desirable trait to many people. At WOT speeds, I feel the Vector requires a bit more steering input and it's also quicker to react to very fine steering movements. I think both the V-King and Vector are very rewarding to pilot, providing the quintessential small, fast V-bottom experience.

As for which is actually faster, I think that could be a difficult question to answer. I feel the V-King can handle big power with more forgiveness, as it was designed to do when introduced. I know people that have run huge top-speed numbers on both, so I think the nearly limitless variables at play here are the deciding factor. Having a Vector and V-King side-by-side, each with a stock 200 would be an interesting match up. All things being equal, I think the Vector might have the edge in speed.

hydroViper235
06-04-2021, 09:07 AM
Do you think the main difference is the pad design?

LakeFever
06-04-2021, 09:19 AM
They're quite a bit different underneath. The vector has a concave wider pad and two more lifting strakes and the vking has a narrower perfectly flat pad. The vking is flatter looking in general to a vector if looking at the sides of the hull. I believe the vector has you sitting deeper in the cockpit too vs a vking where your up over the windshield more. Meaning the Vector cap is higher on the sidewall so to speak

John S
06-04-2021, 10:28 AM
... so I think the nearly limitless variables at play here.

Huevos grandes is the main variable.:D

Funny thing (to me anyways) is that when I let a buddy with a Vking drive my Allison, he kept looking back to see if we lost a skeg. He said it felt really loose, lol. We all get used to what were used to. Loved watching videos of Ronnie fly his stream.