1983 shadow 21' build up

[Pepperson4]

picked up a 83' shadow from another member on here. boats in great shape for its age but I picked up a 250xs for it. but had a soft floor and transom was shot. so boat is at a local reputable fiberglass shop getting new floor, stringers, transom dash etc and then paint. having a new tank made as well. will post as I progress. picked up a side ram steering setup as well. will be running a 12' jack plate. heres some pics so far of the progress. boat had a lot of gelcoat issues so im having it painted. new interior as well. I will be doing all the rigging. going with a simrad display for gauges. will be having the plash well deleted as well.

[Sutphil]

Looks well worth the effort. Nice boat.

[noli]

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wow, that transom was done quickly!


very nice!





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[vnemous]

Are you gonna limit the ability to tilt your engine up with no well?

[Pepperson4]

Are you gonna limit the ability to tilt your engine up with no well?
shouldn't with a 12' jack plate

[vnemous]

Guess it may depend on rigging hoses

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[Pepperson4]

got some more updates. transoms in, total of 3" thick(ply). back deck is glassed on. wanted to do a hatch but the additional cost was out of reach. im already spending quite a bit on this resto so gotta cut costs somewhere. maybe ill put a sunpad on. ill proabably maken access from behind the bench seat. the guys at D&S marine in Rockford are doing a amazing job. very nice guys and update me often. Tank and floor will go in this week then its paint prep. picking up jack plate from powder coat today and sending my injectors to brucato to be rebuilt. anyone have anymore pics of shadows?

[Pepperson4]

got my tank back. same as orignal size 50 gallons just looks big in pics. guys did a awesome job on it!

[rgsauger]

Thats awsome! I rebuilt my 90 Shadow tunnel myself from ground up. Love it

[tux974]

Nice work, coming along very nicely!

[Instigator]

Way cool project.

Love that size and style of boat.

Timeless lines and an absolute blast to drive.

[Pepperson4]

Thanks everyone appreciate It!

[Pepperson4]

Gotta love the balsa core stringers! Floor and transom were balsa also, all rotted. Core is good luckily.

[Pepperson4]

Few pics I got sent. Stringers some floors in seat boxes being made then glassing it all in. Everything full encapsulated

[Pepperson4]

Few pics of stringer system. All new transom, knee boards, stringers, bulkheads and tank. Built same as factory design but much stronger and more waterproof. No balsa used other than deck. Boat should be getting paint next week!

[rgsauger]

Few pics of stringer system. All new transom, knee boards, stringers, bulkheads and tank. Built same as factory design but much stronger and more waterproof. No balsa used other than deck. Boat should be getting paint next week!

I added two extra knees to my transom when I redid my shadow. Is easy to do. Just come outboard of the factory knees 14 to 16 inches on each side and you can add in another series of supports.

[Pepperson4]

Boats getting prepped for paint. Seat boxes and Rae bench bulkhead is in. Floor is fullly glassed. Seat boxes have aluminum plate sandwiched between ply that will be tapped for bolts.

[tux974]

Coming along nicely.

[Pepperson4]

Time for some color

[berzerko]

Time for some color
Looks great

[FUJIMO]

no splashwell looks good. 1983 boat...that was about the timeframe that shadow went bankrupt, '82-83... wondering who built yours. boat is coming along nicely.:thumbsup:

[rgsauger]

Can't wait to see this beast finished

[Pepperson4]

New dash modification is done to accept a 9” simrad display, color is almost on

[Pepperson4]

Just needs a cut and buff and it’s time to rig

[Bateman]

Man, that looks excellent.

[Pepperson4]

She’s comin home tomorrow. Shout out to d&s marine in Rockford IL for the outstanding work!

[Pepperson4]

Got her home, looks killer. Got some protective film, time to start rigging

[Radazzle]

I have a 22 Velocity that I raised the transom on. Could you measure the distance from the pad to the top bolt holes.
I assume your running a 20" mid.
Color looks killer, will definitely be a head Turner!

[Pepperson4]

Well after a week of grinding and what not I finally got floor and bilge coated. Just spent my time making sure any holes were filled and boat was bone dry throughout. Still need to sand the floor and topcoat it for UV protection. This boat will be much better than it was from the factory no doubt. The whole dash core was replaced. It’s a clean slate. Time to start rigging

[Pepperson4]

sorry for sideways pics my phone sucks. getting the side panels made up. using 3/8" pvc board and will wrap with foma and vinyl.

[Pepperson4]

carpet is in the sides now

[Pepperson4]

Managed to get the seat base drilled and tapped. Jack plate and ladder on. Also got my helm mounted up.

[rgsauger]

Looks great

[vnemous]

You need about 8" inches of padding in the seat bottom Just saying:D

[tux974]

You need about 8" inches of padding in the seat bottom Just saying:D

He is probably young and tall.....:D

Pepperson, coming along very nicely....:thumbsup:

[Pepperson4]

Yep young and tall 😂
got the motor hung finally . Will be finishing up side panels Tomorow and the steering I’m hoping

[tux974]

Yep young and tall 
got the motor hung finally . Will be finishing up side panels Tomorow and the steering I’m hoping

That's it, slow and steady progress makes for a good detailed finish.....:thumbsup:

BTW, do not mind us old timers.... :D I personally need a high rise recliner for a seat.....:eek::D

[starviper10]

Managed to get the seat base drilled and tapped. Jack plate and ladder on. Also got my helm mounted up.

That's a really lightweight. neat looking ladder. I haven't seen one like that before. What make/model, or is it custom?

Also, just want to mention that this thread has been great to read, thanks for sharing. I've been debating between a Superboat, Progression, Challenger, and Shadow for my next purchase, and I think this thread alone has convinced me that I want a Shadow.

I'm guessing you're running that on the Chain O' Lakes in northern IL? That will be a great time running it there

[Pepperson4]

That's a really lightweight. neat looking ladder. I haven't seen one like that before. What make/model, or is it custom?

Also, just want to mention that this thread has been great to read, thanks for sharing. I've been debating between a Superboat, Progression, Challenger, and Shadow for my next purchase, and I think this thread alone has convinced me that I want a Shadow.

I'm guessing you're running that on the Chain O' Lakes in northern IL? That will be a great time running it there

thanks man. Yep I live on the chain so mostly will be rippin around here. The ladder is by r&r designs. It’s a slide master jackplate and I bought them together but it looks like it was built for it because one side of the jack plate has a shorter bolt plate to leave room for the ladder mount. The ladder slides down and then you can fold it down again also. So it goes about 2 feet below the bottom of the boat when all the way down

[Pepperson4]

Got MFD installed. Simrad go9 with a vesselview link. Also spent a few days and finished the side panels. 3/8” pvc board with 1/2” foam. I see why upholstery guys charge what they do haha.

[Rigaud]

Few pics of stringer system. All new transom, knee boards, stringers, bulkheads and tank. Built same as factory design but much stronger and more waterproof. No balsa used other than deck. Boat should be getting paint next week!

Love your thread for this project. I just picked up a Scorpion 21 Offshore, an 89 that I will restore over the winter as well. Pretty much a splash of a Shadow, Progression, Superboat. One quick question..... are you installing the fuel tank with foam? I hate that product, sucks water like a sponge but wondering how to safely keep it intact.

Thanks
John

[Pepperson4]

No foam! Just welded on tank brackets !

[Pepperson4]

Managed to get a little done. I THINK I finally am done drilling holes. I took the time to epoxy coat any exposed core where I drilled wholes for cleats bilges etc. I want this thing to last and I’m not skipping any details. Also got the top coat on the floor interior epoxy. Gloss white. Sherwin williams macropoxy 646 and then their industrial enamel HS for a UV resistant top coat. Not cheap stuff but It’s worth it. Should be getting all my cables and steering in soon and seats. Also seadek down on the floor.

[Pepperson4]

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side panels turned out pretty killer. lot of time into them. got the gas fill and stern light in. as well as eddie marine rigging tube flange. will get speakers and grab handles in tomorrow! windshield is out getting trimmed as well.

[noli]

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That is sexy!

One of the best restorations I've seen in a long time




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[Pepperson4]

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That is sexy!

One of the best restorations I've seen in a long time




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Appreciate the kind words 🙏
oanels all buttoned up. Pretty proud of them for my first time upholstering😂Made sure to through bolt almost everything in this boat. Got seat brackets in.Spent all day trying to get my tilt tube out of my motor bracket to put in the side ram pin. Thing is very very seized. Any tips ? Got both nuts off. Tried some heat and oil, still won’t turn or slide either way.

[Pepperson4]

Couple more

[Pepperson4]

Been busy rebuilding my tilt bracket. Waiting on ram pin and bushings to come in. Got battery boxes in , cables ran, power cables for amps ran, oil tank bracket in. Also got stereo in as well as if led paddle trim. Got my accon pop up cleats as well but I’m waiting on bezels for those.

[Pepperson4]

Put a seal on the windshield mount and drilled and mounted it. Took a lot of measuring but got it straight . Also got my cleats and bezels in.

[Greg G]

Wow, mad skills you have for sure.

[Pepperson4]

Wow, mad skills you have for sure.
Thanks man!
Been busy wiring, and more wiring , and cutting 3,000 zip ties, and dripping solder on my chest . Most of the switches are completed. Have in line fuses. Also been busy making and setting up the shift cable bracket . It’s very time consuming setting everything single thing up from scratch I’ll tell ya that .

[scott reierson]

Beautiful work, that boat is coming along fast.

[Pepperson4]

Degreased the whole motor. Sending the trim setup out to get powder coated, gotta have it looking fresh

[Pepperson4]

She progress , lots and lots of wiring

[Pepperson4]

Change of plans , got a new motor coming in

[Greg G]

Now I'm really confused?

[Pepperson4]

Now I'm really confused?

sold the 250xs , going with a new motor

[32DougWright]

Where did you get your rub rail? How much did you need?

Thanks,

[Pepperson4]

Where did you get your rub rail? How much did you need?

Thanks,
That’s actually the original that was out back on.

[32DougWright]

Nice

[noli]

sold the 250xs , going with a new motor
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very exciting!

when you say "new" do you mean a 4-stroke?




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[Pepperson4]

[QUOTE=noli;3238231].


very exciting!

when you say "new" do you mean a 4-stroke?


Should be coming in tomorrow. 2018 g2, 250ho with warranty until 2028😎

[Vernardo89]

Hi, I have a 21 rally sport, I know it's very close to design as the shadow but not identical. Can you tell where did you get the material for your windshield and also where did you get your bucket seats?

[Pepperson4]

Hi, I have a 21 rally sport, I know it's very close to design as the shadow but not identical. Can you tell where did you get the material for your windshield and also where did you get your bucket seats?

buckets are sickspeed brand. And windshield is what came on the boat I just trimmed it down. I think it’s just lexan or acrylic

[Pepperson4]

Got the motor in! Also got a 6” atlas hydraulic jack plate. Not sure if I’m gonna run my manual or this one yet . Luckily my dad let me put the boat in the heated barn for winter so I can work on it . Definitely have my work cut out with this rigging , haha

[Pepperson4]

Got the motor on finally. 6” atlas hydraulic plate came with it. Total of 12” of setback with the g2. Plus the 7” notch. Almost have the shifter mounted as well.

[Pepperson4]

Mocking up the new ignition panel. The Evinrude icon Monitor display will go where I previously had my switches at on the dash. I think this will look much cleaner anyway

[2.5-21]

buckets are sickspeed brand. And windshield is what came on the boat I just trimmed it down. I think it’s just lexan or acrylic


How do the seats attach to boat? are the brackets on the bottom steel or can they come off all together?

[Pepperson4]

How do the seats attach to boat? are the brackets on the bottom steel or can they come off all together?
The seats have a metal insert on each corner side. The brackets bolt to those, and I just bolted those to the plate I have glasses under the seat boxes.
it came on sliding brackets but I plan I making solid mounts once I get a feel for where I want the seat to be

[Greg G]

What made you decide on ETEC for power?

[Pepperson4]

What made you decide on ETEC for power?
Talked to a bunch of people that loved them. Wanted something with a long warranty. Still have 8 years on this motor. Brp is still making parts and is a multi billion dollar company so I have no doubt they will honor warranty’s. Also wanted something with a clean rigging setup. This is just battery cables, and a harness and fuel line. No oil tank in boat, no shift cables to mess with. Rigging tube is fixed as well so that won’t wear out. And the icing on the cake is I can hit a button and switch between hand or foot throttle

[Greg G]

Switch between hand and foot? Super slick, did not know that. Agree on warranty.

[Pepperson4]

Been tinkering with the floor layout. Always wanted to see how good I could make some seadek look. Tried clear
Plastic first but it was a pain in the ass. Saw the cardboard strips and hot glue idea on YouTube and it works amazing. Lays down just like the Mat will and has same thickness. And it’s rigid so no wrinkles. Will be routering the edges after templates are cut out. Went with 2 tone dark gray/black Teak style.

[Pepperson4]

Got the first set of mats cut out. Will be adding other pieces on the angled sides of floor. Used a 45 degree mat cutter for a bevel with a straight edge. Came out pretty clean as long as your steady. I free handed the curves and circle. Just need to round the corners off. Also got a few other changes coming 👿

[Velocity72]

Nice work. Steady hand.

[Pepperson4]

Your supposed to change your dash core every 6 months right? Haha was feeling ambitious and I hate how high the steering wheel was and the dash size. So I chiseled out all the core by hand and am recor-ing it to how I want it. Wish I would just leave stuff alone sometimes 😂

[Pepperson4]

Core is cut out and in. Using all epoxy resin. Was able to trace the rear skin as my template. Using 3/4 “ ply. Tapered all my edges inside and out for the new skins. Used epoxy thickened with cabosil to bond core on. Used clamps where I could snd existing holes I used screws. Was able to get a good squeeze as you can see from all the excess epoxy everywhere. Filled any gaps with thickened epoxy. Bottom of dash (back side) has a radius sanded in to it. I will use 1708 for front skin first and overhang it by 1/2” past the wood. That will give me an area to add a fillet for a smooth transition from the rear skin onto the front skin. Also a nice lip for edge trim to attach to.

[Pepperson4]

Front skin made. 3 layers of 1708. CSM first, 1708, csm, 1708, and then two final layers of 1708 to top it off for the desired thickness. Fillet created in back for skin to transition to hull. Will be two layers of 1708 on back skin. Obviously will be trimmed off flush on bottom, it’s overhanging by about an inch currently.

[Pepperson4]

Well finally got the rear skin on, 2 layers of 1708 after I faired in the core. Will get a white coating of macropoxy same as floor. Got the front mudded also. Still need to do final trim on bottom, about 1.5” will be coming off . Using total fair epoxy fairing compound. Works amazing. Very thick tho so takes some effort to spread compared to bondo. But we all know bondo doesn’t belong on boats! The whole dash will be painted black

[tnelsmn]

That will be a nice blank canvas to start with for the dash.

[Pepperson4]

Got the bottom trimmed off today. Was happy with the overall thickness of about 1/4” on the bottom lip. Worked out good for a surface to attach a trim piece too. Got the first layer of filler blocked down and did a skim coat before I left. Will likely need another skim coat once I use a guide coat to really get it flat. Helps to have a nice set of blocks as well.

[Pepperson4]

All done. Just kidding got the guide coat on and sanded off. Got it pretty damn straight. Did a final skim coat on a couple low spots I missed. Hopefully get primer on Tomorow. Then will do a sealer most likely

[NZ Sidewinder]

Good work
Did you enjoy overhead glassing the back of the Dash?
Did you have resin run down your arms and that blinding stinging feeling in your eyes and forehead or am I just an amateur?

[Pepperson4]

Good work
Did you enjoy overhead glassing the back of the Dash?
Did you have resin run down your arms and that blinding stinging feeling in your eyes and forehead or am I just an amateur?
Haha yea I had that happen when I was wetting it out to put the core on. Learned my lesson and got a full tyvek suit on and glasses. Also I prewet out all the laminate in the ground first, made it way easier. Helps a lot with epoxy since it’s tougher to get it to wet out than vinylester or poly

[Pepperson4]

Refitting the side panels tonight to the new dash. Will be spraying some 2k primer on soon. Then a sealer and then paint. Got my new seats in as well. Really like what the nitra guys are doing so went with the same seats. Very high quality and comfortable. Went with alloy side brackets for them as well.

[Greg G]

Looking good. Be curious what those seats weigh. They look stout.

[NZ Sidewinder]

How much padding do they have in the seat.
For years Ive put up with seats that jar my spine with every wave?
Im about to build seats that have the seat foam 7 inches thick? so more or less from the floor up

[Pepperson4]

Looking good. Be curious what those seats weigh. They look stout.
23 pounds I believe. So still quite a bit lighter than a skater style high back seat. The previous fiberglass racing seats I had were about 19 pounds. Those had steel brackets though.

[Pepperson4]

How much padding do they have in the seat.
For years Ive put up with seats that jar my spine with every wave?
Im about to build seats that have the seat foam 7 inches thick? so more or less from the floor up
They seem comfy, lot of padding on the front where your legs sit. On the butt area not so much. But at the end of the day they are a racing seat for cars really. I’m not offshore racing or anything but Lake Michigan does get pretty rough. I’ve always wanted to try out some of the suspension seats they make from x craft. X craft competition seats. I’m sure they are cheap! 😂

[Greg G]

I always wondered if something simple could be fab'd up ..........

[Pepperson4]

1/2” on back and 5/8” on bottom of seat. Might do a layer of light glass on it to reduce flex a bit will test it out

[NZ Sidewinder]

Lol
Apart from the subject matter it's always interesting to see what others have in their shed

[Pepperson4]

The 5/8” ply bottom of bench still had too much flex between the stringers. So I opted for 1/2” sandwiches between 1708. Couple vent holes. Left a 2” strip glass free on perimeter for staples. Found a ton of pinholes I missed so I did a final glaze on the dash, and blocked one last time and then sprayed primer. Got it pretty

[Pepperson4]

Some wet sanding and wax and grease remover and off to the races. Base laid down with some issues from dust nibs. Anyone that’s painted in a barn knows that frustration. After fixing that I was able to get 3 coats of clear on as I plan on wet sanding and buffing it.

[Speed Jr.]

Looks great Evan. Hope to see you on the Chain soon....

Larry Gempp Jr.

[Pepperson4]

Wet sanded everything with 2,000 and hit it with some cutting compound quickly to get an idea. Very pleased with how it turned out! Panel is pretty damn straight, and almost all orange peel is gone. Figuring out seat mounting as of now

[Pepperson4]

And this one

[Pepperson4]

Turned out pretty decent

[godspeed]

Wet sanded everything with 2,000 and hit it with some cutting compound quickly to get an idea. Very pleased with how it turned out! Panel is pretty damn straight, and almost all orange peel is gone. Figuring out seat mounting as of now

what did you use to repaint hull? I’m thinking about awl craft 2000 on my shadow

[Pepperson4]

what did you use to repaint hull? I’m thinking about awl craft 2000 on my shadow

hull is PPG single stage urethane, about one of toughest paint you can get, easy to repair as well

[NZ Sidewinder]

That superboat in your Avatar.
Is the 300X a 25inch shaft?
How did it handle in the rough with so much motor above the Transom
https://www.screamandfly.com/image.php?u=21955&type=sigpic&dateline=1568312006

[Pepperson4]

The cobalt steering center piece really finishes it off😅

[XstreamVking]

Looking real good. Like the color. Reminds me of the "Boss" Mustang grabber blue.

[Pepperson4]

Got all the wires finally pull up to the dash. Lotta zip ties later. Sea star pro hoses ran to the helm. All the wiring to the motor button up. Was able to route the wires for the jack plate through the rigging hose so there is zero holes drilled in transom besides rigging hose. Very clean setup. This pic shows the plate at full lift

[Pepperson4]

Wiring turned out much nicer this time around. 90 percent of the boat is rigged now. Still waiting on upholstery and powder coat on the cleats and windshield bracket. Also waiting on second paddle switch for jackplate to come in. She’s almost ready to fire up just need to do fuel fill and vent

[Pepperson4]

Seats are in

[Pepperson4]

Bench is almost done

[Pepperson4]

Cleats are mounted and ready. Went with a 6” accon pop up. So this is the 3rd cleat I’ve had in this boat. As you can see I’m very indecisive 🤡😅. Also having a full cover made. Hopefully get the floor done soon and fire it up after I bleed the steering.

[Pepperson4]

Bench is done. Sanded floor back down to primer and reprimed and spray a single reduced layer of raptor liner. I like the durability of it over Gelcoat. I only sprayed 4mils worth of coating roughly. Figured it would be even easier to sand off than a thick layer of gel if a repair was ever needed. I only prayed around where seadek willl be going, rest of floor and bulkheads and bilge remain white.

[2.5-21]

How far of a reach is that paddle switch attached to the helm with your set up? I ran into that myself using a seastar helm. You need to take your hand off the wheel to reach it, Those are made for their own Uflex helm where they mount up closer to wheel. I am making a spacer to move it out.

[Pepperson4]

How far of a reach is that paddle switch attached to the helm with your set up? I ran into that myself using a seastar helm. You need to take your hand off the wheel to reach it, Those are made for their own Uflex helm where they mount up closer to wheel. I am making a spacer to move it out.

I just added a strip of rubber between it and the helm so I could move it closer a bit and it would still tighten down.

[Pepperson4]

Comin along

[Pepperson4]

The original panels cracked when I dropped one. It was a bad design, the the pvc board I made too narrow of a piece by the cubby/speaker. That left it very weak. So I redesigned and built new panels. Just finished covering them.

[scott reierson]

Do you know how heavy did that panel turn out using the PVC board?

Looks great and won't rot

[Pepperson4]

Do you know how heavy did that panel turn out using the PVC board?

Looks great and won't rot
13 pounds each. That’s using 1/2” foam. 3/8” pvc board. 5/16 2” bolts with 2” fender washers and a T nut on the back to hold them in.

[Pepperson4]

Comin along

[Pepperson4]

Panels are in and shifter mounted. Just need to trim seat brackets.almost there !

[Pepperson4]

Just waiting on power purge for steering abs gas fill hose

[Greg G]

You have been rolling big time. Looks great!

[Pepperson4]

Got the foot throttle mounted and steering bled finally. Motor fired right up as expected. Just need prop hub and I’ll drop her in

[Pepperson4]

Been on the boat all week. First test run went pretty good. After playing with jack plate heights and trim settings we found a decent spot. Running a 26p raker HO currently. First day it seemed bow heavy so I took the subs out (80lbs) next day we threw some vests on and really aired it out. We’re able to hit 75mph at 6,010 rpm pretty close to limiter. I plan on finding a 30p pro max To try bad break into the 80s! Got the seadek on as well. This thing laughs at the chop. The g2 makes some great power too. The whole shot is incredible. Super nice to be able to switch from hand to foot throttle also

[Greg G]

Congrats, your mad skills just converted to mad fun fun fun :cheers:

[tnelsmn]

Killer job on this! Looks fun!

[CooperS7777]

This is gorgeous!

[Velocity72]

Great job. Looks super cool.

[Pepperson4]

Congratulations! You did a great job on tht boat. 75 1st time out! Nice! Looks like the Grass Lake road bridge in the back ground of one of those shots.

Many of the 250 E-TEC owners I was involved with never had a problem with them and are still going. Best of luck to you!
Yessir I always launch in grass lake! Usually the best for speed runs

[Pepperson4]

Here’s a couple clips of it rippin. Still need to get the decals on and finish some odds and ends but every time I go to do anything on it I just end up taking it out to run ��

https://youtube.com/shorts/LhwhIEtHApE?feature=share

https://youtube.com/shorts/AXFFDY0eMH0?feature=share

[Pepperson4]

Getting the lettering ordered up. This is the rendering of what it should look like. Took 2 others out the other night and it definitely flew the bow better with a person in back. 50% trim is the neutral point. I’m driving at 80% trim most of the time. I plan on adding 4” of setback on the jack plate. Im currently at 10” of setback with the built in 4” of the g2 plus my 6” jack. 14” should be a good spot I’m thinking, hopefully will move CG back so I don’t have to trim it so much to fly the bow.

[Greg G]

You seem to have a pretty complete garage set up. If you have a lift why not put a sling under it and move it up off the trailer a few inches until you find the CG? Easy to do if you are equipped and may shorten the experiments.

[Pepperson4]

You seem to have a pretty complete garage set up. If you have a lift why not put a sling under it and move it up off the trailer a few inches until you find the CG? Easy to do if you are equipped and may shorten the experiments.
No lift unfortunately. Just an engine hoist.

[wgray]

Incredible build, well done! Read the whole thread and just wanted to say this boat is beautiful!

[Pepperson4]

So far I’ve put about 30 hours on the boat in the past month of using it . I plan on adding more setback still. Got the windshield bracket powder coated and on. Don’t mind the residue on the boat. Also got the lettering in and installed. Picked up an engine cover and waiting on the full custom cover still. Next project will be foot rests . I plan on making moulds and using gelcoat and glass to make some boxes. More to come!

[Pepperson4]

Hit 75.9 gps today by myself on the limiter . Best I’m gonna get with this prop I’m thinking. Was able to start the moulds for the foot braces. Started with 1/2” mdf and made simple triangle boxes to the shape I wanted. Making sure to taper them towards the top to make it easy to release. Then laid my tape lines down to ease clean up. Using bondo and a 1.25” pipe to create my radius. Far as I got tonight

[22 apache]

Great job !!!! I complement you on your work skills an craftsmanship....top notch......I've been looking to see where my old boat ended up. I bought it from them original owner back in 87'.....He used to power sail with his kids an kids got older an went to school so he decided to sell it. That boat has been across Long Island sound a number of times to Connecticut an back, Lake George plenty off times the hole length, Lake Wallenpaupack in PA.... then I sold it to a friend of mine he used a couple of years up at George an he sold it an it disappeared then I seen it on here down Florida an tried to reach out to him but didn't here back. Now I have a 22 Apache restoring so I figure I'd log on an see what everyone is doing an bang!! there's the old floater...lol I could tell by the painted on shadow logo....my friend shot the old Imron on it in 92....lots a luck with it...I had a blast with it,for sure.

[Pepperson4]

Great job !!!! I complement you on your work skills an craftsmanship....top notch......I've been looking to see where my old boat ended up. I bought it from them original owner back in 87'.....He used to power sail with his kids an kids got older an went to school so he decided to sell it. That boat has been across Long Island sound a number of times to Connecticut an back, Lake George plenty off times the hole length, Lake Wallenpaupack in PA.... then I sold it to a friend of mine he used a couple of years up at George an he sold it an it disappeared then I seen it on here down Florida an tried to reach out to him but didn't here back. Now I have a 22 Apache restoring so I figure I'd log on an see what everyone is doing an bang!! there's the old floater...lol I could tell by the painted on shadow logo....my friend shot the old Imron on it in 92....lots a luck with it...I had a blast with it,for sure.

cool to hear the history on it! By far the most fun boat I have ever owned hands down!

[Pepperson4]

Couple more pics

[dnelson964]

Just saw this thread, nice job and boat. Might be good to have boat weighed so you have that info. More set back sounds right, and remember less weight on boat and with the weight centered helps for better top speeds.

Good luck.

[Pepperson4]

Couple videos
short clip ripping down river at about 73 mph trimmed out. Another GoPro clip of the motor. 66 hours on the motor so far this past couple months!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-WPrag25Tjk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xby5rrZKNE0

[22 apache]

Ahhhhhhh....first video brings back some memories from when I had it in PA. I have a pic at same angle facing back like that. I'll have to find them an try to down load them.

[CCLancer19]

got some more updates. transoms in, total of 3" thick(ply). back deck is glassed on. wanted to do a hatch but the additional cost was out of reach. im already spending quite a bit on this resto so gotta cut costs somewhere. maybe ill put a sunpad on. ill proabably maken access from behind the bench seat. the guys at D&S marine in Rockford are doing a amazing job. very nice guys and update me often. Tank and floor will go in this week then its paint prep. picking up jack plate from powder coat today and sending my injectors to brucato to be rebuilt. anyone have anymore pics of shadows?

Just went through the whole thread. Very well done! Guess your itching for the ice to melt?
We're in the process of rebuilding a Scorpion 21. I'm wondering what all the holes were for in your new aft deck(post #7)?
I'll see if I can figure out how to start a thread and post some pictures of our progress

[Pepperson4]

Just went through the whole thread. Very well done! Guess your itching for the ice to melt?
We're in the process of rebuilding a Scorpion 21. I'm wondering what all the holes were for in your new aft deck(post #7)?
I'll see if I can figure out how to start a thread and post some pictures of our progress

yea ive been following along, the yellow scorpion right? and regarding the holes, i honestly have no idea the more i think about it!

boat update-egine was down on power the last day i took it out in fall. dealer called and said i was down on two cylinders. so its getting all new injectors and a new full powerhead, all warranty. should be ready by spring. think i have to pay $50, haha

[CCLancer19]

What did you use to core the stringers and knees. We're using 3/4" marine plywood doubled up at transom knees and 4 ft forward. Still working on what to do with glass layup. Thinking 3 layers of 12 oz biax for tabbing and two layers over the tops. Probably a little more tabbing in the doubled knee area. The knees will eventually get tabbed into the cap as well. That with a good bulkhead behind the seat should make the back end plenty stiff.

[Pepperson4]

What did you use to core the stringers and knees. We're using 3/4" marine plywood doubled up at transom knees and 4 ft forward. Still working on what to do with glass layup. Thinking 3 layers of 12 oz biax for tabbing and two layers over the tops. Probably a little more tabbing in the doubled knee area. The knees will eventually get tabbed into the cap as well. That with a good bulkhead behind the seat should make the back end plenty stiff.

3/4 ply was used for the knees on mine, and the stringers I am unsure. It originally had balsa stringers about 2” wide and 6” tall. I believe they used ply and replicated a similar size. They are extremely heavy duty, as is the transom since I told them I planned on running it hard in the chop with a big bracket on the back. As far as laminate schedule for your stringers ? I tend to overbuild things but 2 layers of 1208 sounds about right for the stringers, personally I would do two layers of 1708 just for piece of mind. It’ll only take about 20% more resin, but I’m also no engineer on laminate schedules ��

[Pepperson4]

Bump boat is for sale-42k Need funds for pole barn ��

[JV1]

Awesome build, excellent thread, very impressive and informative too. Thanks!!