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Gorilla0178
11-14-2019, 11:22 AM
Only the start. Will keep posted with progress. The cap was totally cut up. Someone had cut all The wood out from the top. We'll fabricate a new cap. It might even be extended a few feet. 452678452679

tnelsmn
11-15-2019, 09:41 AM
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Gorilla0178
11-29-2019, 05:31 PM
So my buddy Gio has been doing a little work on the craft, I haven't had a chance to do much with him. He's using pour foam to shape out the front of the stringers, then glass it all up. The new deck won't have the step up like it used to. The first piece of coosa is in. It'll get glassed then another piece of coosa and more glass.

Gorilla0178
11-30-2019, 03:02 PM
Glassed and ready for more coosa

Gorilla0178
11-30-2019, 06:49 PM
2nd layer of coosa....

tnelsmn
12-01-2019, 11:08 AM
How are you holding the layers together while laminating? Looking good!

Gorilla0178
12-01-2019, 02:09 PM
How are you holding the layers together while laminating? Looking good!

Since its getting repaired and repainted, the first layer was just screwed into the transom glass, the second piece was screwed into the first piece. After its cured screws are all removed.

Gorilla0178
12-01-2019, 02:10 PM
New transom is in.

tnelsmn
12-03-2019, 10:29 AM
Looks good!

Gorilla0178
12-04-2019, 10:07 AM
Cut out some stringer

Gorilla0178
12-04-2019, 10:08 AM
Stub stringer with knees. Gonna be all glued and glassed. Refoam and glass it all up.

1954bmw
12-05-2019, 08:57 AM
How does the coosa stand up to the nuts and bolts clamping pressure of an outboard, will you make sleeves for the bolts to prevent crushing???

Gorilla0178
12-06-2019, 09:41 AM
It would be difficult to compress on accident. Fender washers are all that's really needed. We usually make fiberglass backing plates. We've used sleeves before which work great too. This will have a flotation bracket installed to.

Gorilla0178
12-06-2019, 09:45 AM
Knees glassed up

Gorilla0178
12-06-2019, 09:53 AM
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Test fit. Still needs to be trimmed. The stringer box will be cut opened up more to allow glassing into the stringer. The box will be glassed on the inside before the stringer is glued in. The end will be cut 45 degrees to help eliminate a hard spot on the hull. Then all glassed into the boat and filled back up with foam.

XstreamVking
12-06-2019, 11:23 AM
That is some very neat glasswork right there.....Some guys are sloppy, some are meticulous. I have noticed over the years that the neater the glass work the better the design and end result is.

Gorilla0178
12-06-2019, 12:53 PM
That is some very neat glasswork right there.....Some guys are sloppy, some are meticulous. I have noticed over the years that the neater the glass work the better the design and end result is.

That's right. As much as possible at least. In the end lots of things will work, but it at least needs to be neat. Well planned and nice cut material usually ends up neat.

Gorilla0178
12-07-2019, 04:43 PM
Stringers opened up more. Test fit and glued in.

Gorilla0178
12-08-2019, 06:16 PM
Decks partially cut out

Gorilla0178
12-11-2019, 06:23 PM
All cleaned up

Gorilla0178
12-11-2019, 06:27 PM
All glassed up

Gorilla0178
12-11-2019, 06:30 PM
Back seat with hatches. The center will be a bait well.

Baja170
12-12-2019, 07:18 AM
Super sweet work!! Thanks for sharing!!

Gorilla0178
12-12-2019, 06:03 PM
Omg, been building these consoles since 2000. Borrowed the mold to build one for the seacraft. It's a console from a pathfinder 2200 I think. Defiantly old.

Gorilla0178
12-12-2019, 06:05 PM
Coosa bedded down.

Gorilla0178
12-16-2019, 10:23 AM
Coosa glassed and popped. Rough cut to the boat. The corners are hitting hard so it's not perfectly straight right now.

TwzteD
12-17-2019, 06:54 AM
looks good lot of progress already.

Gorilla0178
12-17-2019, 09:53 AM
Ya Gio is trying to get it done asap. Time is money and this project is on his dime.

TwzteD
12-17-2019, 09:54 AM
Ya Gio is trying to get it done asap. Time is money and this project is on his dime.

Ahh gotcha no time for it to sit 👍

Gorilla0178
12-20-2019, 08:37 PM
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Glass on the bottom of a deck piece, front decks rough cut and the bracket.

Gorilla0178
12-24-2019, 06:22 PM
The decks are glassed on the bottom, stiff enough to walk on already, rough cut still. The foam was shaped and glassed over. The front half of the hull has fresh matt over it. The rear seat it pretty much fit. Still tight in the corners. There is a white line across the top of the transom, it'll be cut straight across at the line.

Gorilla0178
12-27-2019, 10:35 AM
Console built. Had to scrap together some of the promat, and use some other core mat cloth but it works. Needed it built to see if it fits. It needs core on a couple spots if we're going to use it.

Gorilla0178
12-27-2019, 10:37 AM
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Bracket in its approx location. Needs to go up a little bit.

Gorilla0178
12-27-2019, 10:40 AM
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Tank, still needs painting.
Just a couple extra pics.

Gorilla0178
01-09-2020, 09:08 PM
Bulkhead glued in

Gorilla0178
01-09-2020, 09:13 PM
Insulated the hull in the front for a cooler/fishbox.front front deck with hatch landing/ hatch. Rough cut gunnels.

TwzteD
01-10-2020, 07:18 AM
Looking good

FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:17 PM
Looks great from the photo's, Gio does nice glass work. Cant stand seeing peoples photo's of glass work, and the glass work is all glossy, which means an overuse of resin, and is a waste of money, weight & laziness and also a weaker layup. Gio's work shows no glossiness at all, which is excellent. One of my pet peaves, when my guys were glassing in stringers and/or floor panels, was to first make sure that the empty hull was not twisted on its carts/cradle/floor. Easy to forget this & fudge-up. In Port St. Lucie, who are you sourcing your Coosa board from & what density Coosa did you go with, for the transom? Composites One, Merritt Marine Supply, or?

FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:22 PM
Again, hard to accurately tell from the photo's, but if your going with a 25'' motor...that bracket position can go up quite a bit more, lol. Like I said though hard to say from just a photo.;)

FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:24 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:24 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:25 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:26 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:28 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:30 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:31 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:33 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:33 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:35 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:36 PM
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FUJIMO
01-13-2020, 12:43 PM
How are you holding the layers together while laminating? Looking good!
...Both pieces are bonded in with that pink bedding compound also, if that's what you are also asking. the bedding compound, as it comes out of the five gallon bucket is white, but Gio used red M.E.K., so it ends up being pinkish after mixing. Generally speaking red catalyst is used for resin you use in glass lamination, clear catalyst is used when used in gelcoats, so it doesn't affect the color.

Gorilla0178
01-13-2020, 03:28 PM
It was measured for a 25", I remeasured after the bracket was out of the way, it does need to come up a little. From the top of the bracket to the bottom of the hull its 25+ inches. And with the adjustment on the motor it should sit good.

Gorilla0178
01-13-2020, 03:44 PM
...Both pieces are bonded in with that pink bedding compound also, if that's what you are also asking. the bedding compound, as it comes out of the five gallon bucket is white, but Gio used red M.E.K., so it ends up being pinkish after mixing. Generally speaking red catalyst is used for resin you use in glass lamination, clear catalyst is used when used in gelcoats, so it doesn't affect the color.
The layers of coosa were screwed together while curing. The Pink stuff is Arjay bedding compound. It is white with red MEK. And Yes Gio does very neat work, so at every step of the way people can see how neat its done.

Gorilla0178
01-13-2020, 03:48 PM
Looks great from the photo's, Gio does nice glass work. Cant stand seeing peoples photo's of glass work, and the glass work is all glossy, which means an overuse of resin, and is a waste of money, weight & laziness and also a weaker layup. Gio's work shows no glossiness at all, which is excellent. One of my pet peaves, when my guys were glassing in stringers and/or floor panels, was to first make sure that the empty hull was not twisted on its carts/cradle/floor. Easy to forget this & fudge-up. In Port St. Lucie, who are you sourcing your Coosa board from & what density Coosa did you go with, for the transom? Composites One, Merritt Marine Supply, or?
We get supplies from Merrits in pompano. I hear Fiberglass Florida has good prices too. The transom and knees are 2 layers of 1" 26lb coosa, the decks are 3/4 14lb coosa.

Gorilla0178
01-13-2020, 08:20 PM
As far as the extra resin, we rib roll it out really good, squeegee when we can, use putty to help hold air bubbles at bay and put 1.5 oz mat over most things to absorb any excess and blend it all together. By the time you put the mat down and roll over it once, it's pretty much wet out. It also makes grinding and cleaning it all up easier.

FUJIMO
01-14-2020, 09:06 AM
As far as the extra resin, we rib roll it out really good, squeegee when we can, use putty to help hold air bubbles at bay and put 1.5 oz mat over most things to absorb any excess and blend it all together. By the time you put the mat down and roll over it once, it's pretty much wet out. It also makes grinding and cleaning it all up easier.
...Can tell all this from the photo's and it all looks so nice this way. This is the way its supposed to be done, that so many laminators don't do. Gio knows his s h I t. Excellent job.:thumbsup:

FUJIMO
01-14-2020, 09:43 AM
It was measured for a 25", I remeasured after the bracket was out of the way, it does need to come up a little. From the top of the bracket to the bottom of the hull its 25+ inches. And with the adjustment on the motor it should sit good.
...As a "general" rule on a new hull outboard rig job, I have always used this input, with proven success. Water rises 1'' off the trailing edge of the boat at 60 m.p.h., for every foot of setback. This has always worked on every one of the "hundreds" of single, twin, triple, and quad outboard boats that I have overseen rigging on. Admittedly, I have never rigged a V-6 outboard boat that went as slow as 60 m.p.h., but this gives you a proven starting point for installing a bracketed boat, or an engine bolted directly to the transom. Hope this helps.

Gorilla0178
01-14-2020, 10:45 AM
That's exactly what I heard. I'll measure it again with more specifics. The bracket is 18" plus the 6" or so below the bracket. Then the approx 4" of adjustment on the motor bracket, I would have a jack plate for more adjustment. So I think itll fall into a good height.

Gorilla0178
01-22-2020, 01:30 PM
Tank is in and foam is glassed in the cooler.

Gorilla0178
03-08-2020, 11:51 AM
Not much going on with the Craft lately due to other work. The tank is glassed in and I made a different console for it this one fits it a little better. I believe we're going to add a flat face to part of the console, prob in front of the steering wheel, so a larger screen can be mounted to it.

Gorilla0178
03-21-2020, 04:56 PM
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Decks glued and glassed in

Gorilla0178
03-21-2020, 04:59 PM
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Gorilla0178
03-28-2020, 06:19 PM
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Console and back deck glued and glassed in.

Gorilla0178
03-28-2020, 06:23 PM
Tabbed in with mat on the outside. 3 layers of 1708 on the inside.

XstreamVking
03-29-2020, 07:41 AM
You could lift the whole boat by the rear seat ! That's some serious glassin.

Gorilla0178
03-29-2020, 07:20 PM
Yes very solid

Gorilla0178
04-01-2020, 01:58 PM
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First gunnel side made. Not glassed on yet. Just dry fit