Mercury V8 100 hours

[noli]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa5cssBfd4o






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[delawarerick]

Does the warranty get voided if you do your own service and what is the price of the parts?

[rochelle howell]

Does the warranty get voided if you use impact on spark plugs?

[Bodhi]

Damn, I've never seen spark plug threading that deep.

[Capt.Insane-o]

Huh...100 hours..I just keep putting gas in my 2.5 :cool: Kids these days....

[Whaaaaat]

100 hour alternator belt?
Throw away thermostat housing?
Throw away fuel filter housing? And all black so you can't see what's going on inside?
How many times you think those push lock fuel lines can be disconnected and reconnected before some plastic breaks? 5 or 6 times?

[RSWORDS]

100 hour alternator belt?
Throw away thermostat housing?
Throw away fuel filter housing? And all black so you can't see what's going on inside?
How many times you think those push lock fuel lines can be disconnected and reconnected before some plastic breaks? 5 or 6 times?

Belt is 300, plugs 300
T stat is inspect every 100 and replace at 300 along with pump
Never had any of those push locks break

[RSWORDS]

Does the warranty get voided if you do your own service and what is the price of the parts?

No it does not

[rochelle howell]

Won't be long before they're runnin' around with zip ties holding those pushy fuel lines on.

[Bodhi]

Ahhhh, remember the 2 stroke days.....100hrs change the waterpump out and the lower oil and maybe the thermos.....done. I love my black max

[mr fun]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :rolleyes:

[RSWORDS]

Won't be long before they're runnin' around with zip ties holding those pushy fuel lines on.

Yeah... theve only been using them for about 12 years on the high pressure side.... so problomatic......... oh wait....

[Whaaaaat]

Yeah... theve only been using them for about 12 years on the high pressure side.... so problomatic......... oh wait....

I imagine they would fair better in the dust free environment of an outbound, but not had good luck with anything like that in trucks and equipment.

[mragu]

It’s a rich mans game. I’m out

[flabum1017]

company next door to us did a 100 hour on three 350 Yammies.... came out to about $7200......

[delawarerick]

company next door to us did a 100 hour on three 350 Yammies.... came out to about $7200......

What did they do that's more than I ever paid for boat,motor,and trailer.

[RSWORDS]

company next door to us did a 100 hour on three 350 Yammies.... came out to about $7200......

Yeah, they are crazy expensive and a bitch to work on but that's a bit insane. Lol

I'd have to look but I think we are like 800-900 a motor for oil and filter, wp, tstats, anodes (external and internal) fuel filters, gear lube and plugs.

Thanks at the shop, on the road it goes up a bit, and if it's on a lift and I need my service boat to drop the cases it an extra $150 on the bill

[Chaz]

I imagine they would fair better in the dust free environment of an outbound, but not had good luck with anything like that in trucks and equipment.

Ford cars and trucks have used them for heater hoses since the mid 90's. New hose comes with a new ring so if you break the old one, no big deal. First one I changed, I thought it was pretty chincy. You know, "give me a screwdriver and a hose clamp any day" . Then bent over and down between the motor and firewall, pull the ring back it's off ... just push the hose with one hand ... click its on ... OK, it's a good idea, I like it :D

[Risco]

Yeah... theve only been using them for about 12 years on the high pressure side.... so problomatic......... oh wait....
I agree fords been using them forever on pickups way better than previous and if they happen to leak you can change o rings out with just a pick.

[Risco]

Ford cars and trucks have used them for heater hoses since the mid 90's. New hose comes with a new ring so if you break the old one, no big deal. First one I changed, I thought it was pretty chincy. You know, "give me a screwdriver and a hose clamp any day" . Then bent over and down between the motor and firewall, pull the ring back it's off ... just push the hose with one hand ... click its on ... OK, it's a good idea, I like it :D
Dam beat me to it

[Chaz]

Naaa , we just agreed a couple minutes apart ... :thumbsup:

[SS Minnow]

You youngsters and you new fangled ideas. Next thing you know, your going to want bread to be sliced.

[mr fun]

and a shirt with a pocket

[mr fun]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT a FN minuite,,,, your telling me that after 10-10 hr fishing trips you have to spend that kind of money ???? that's is insane, talk about " drinking the koolaide " :nonod: :nonod: :nonod: :iagree: a classmate just got a Contender w/4 400 R's and he has to spend the better part of 10 grand every 10 trips out for service ??? I'm sorry, that just is stupid mathematically :eek:. give me a 42' Hatteras w/AC, toilet, galley, 2-10,000 hr Detroits before rebuild (and truth be told probably more if you are consistent with maintenance) instead of Mr.Fancypants $ 500,000 worth of loose your ass kind of money :leaving: , but then again he never keeps one, gets dealer pricing and sells before they are a year old. but for the guy that keeps one for 3 or 4 yrs, crazy to waste that kind of money unless you can write it off for a business. fun out

[Z06man]

My 100 hour service on my 2.5s was tear down new rings check bearings and hope the nick was OK . Had a few never make it that long . I dont mind the service and regular gas.

[JPEROG]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT a FN minuite,,,, your telling me that after 10-10 hr fishing trips you have to spend that kind of money ???? that's is insane, talk about " drinking the koolaide " :nonod: :nonod: :nonod: :iagree: a classmate just got a Contender w/4 400 R's and he has to spend the better part of 10 grand every 10 trips out for service ??? I'm sorry, that just is stupid mathematically :eek:. give me a 42' Hatteras w/AC, toilet, galley, 2-10,000 hr Detroits before rebuild (and truth be told probably more if you are consistent with maintenance) instead of Mr.Fancypants $ 500,000 worth of loose your ass kind of money :leaving: , but then again he never keeps one, gets dealer pricing and sells before they are a year old. but for the guy that keeps one for 3 or 4 yrs, crazy to waste that kind of money unless you can write it off for a business. fun out

Keith,

The guys that are buying these are NOT on a budget limitation like we are #1. Secondly, your idea of a 42 Hatteras will just be getting to the destination while the quad outboard boat is half way back "they are capable of 90 mph". 3rd the cost of maintaining a boat that has to stay in the water will far exceed the cost spent on maintaining a dozen of these motors (slip, power, bottom cleaning, paint, shaft packings, fuel usage, insurance, and basic power maintenance" all add up really fast on a big boat compared to one that goes on the trailer or in a rack when you are done.

Joe

[mr fun]

got a dock just past my pool in my back yard, at 18 scraped 65' shrimp boat hulls and painted in a day in key west at Steadmans Boatyard. shaft packings are a once a 5 yr. type of deal, talk about fuel, 4 at 20 gallons an hour,,, lets see ,,,that's 80 gallons an hour ,,, hmm :rolleyes: I'm just not getting it. yes, it's fast but that's about all it's good for, he fishes the Kingfish circuit and may run from Jax as far as New Smyrna and back in a day, the 3 engine one held 1500 gallons of fuel or some such # and no place for the princess to pee. that is just stupid. but he has a seafood restaurant and can write off for advertisement, while the rest of us poor schlubs stand back and watch. I'll take the Hatteras and a queen size nap spot while he's literally running over the top of the fish to get to where ever, one dude won the tournament in a 15' aluminum boat with a pool umbrella at the end of the jetty. ;):D:cool:


make that 500 gallons of fuel and 1500.00 to fill it up, still bs

[RSWORDS]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT a FN minuite,,,, your telling me that after 10-10 hr fishing trips you have to spend that kind of money ???? that's is insane, talk about " drinking the koolaide " :nonod: :nonod: :nonod: :iagree: a classmate just got a Contender w/4 400 R's and he has to spend the better part of 10 grand every 10 trips out for service ??? I'm sorry, that just is stupid mathematically :eek:. give me a 42' Hatteras w/AC, toilet, galley, 2-10,000 hr Detroits before rebuild (and truth be told probably more if you are consistent with maintenance) instead of Mr.Fancypants $ 500,000 worth of loose your ass kind of money :leaving: , but then again he never keeps one, gets dealer pricing and sells before they are a year old. but for the guy that keeps one for 3 or 4 yrs, crazy to waste that kind of money unless you can write it off for a business. fun out


No.... that video is not a 100hpur service. It's a 300 hour service, and the price for the 350 Yamaha's is insanely over inflated

[TraceF3]

Them left over 300xs's sure look good now don't they ;)

[flabum1017]

When I first started in this business, you could do a 100 hour service on a V-6 200 for under $100

[madmatic]

Im sure the price of service will far out weigh the depreciation of keeping a boat with 2 strokes. Not to mention the epa is closing in everyday on our sport and 2 strokes are an even easier target than pwcs.

[Whaaaaat]

Im sure the price of service will far out weigh the depreciation of keeping a boat with 2 strokes. Not to mention the epa is closing in everyday on our sport and 2 strokes are an even easier target than pwcs.

Depreciation, what you think a useless center console with 3, 4 or more four stroke money pits hanging on the transom is gonna be worth on the used market in 5 or ten years?

I keep wondering who that customer is, and just don't see it.

[delawarerick]

You can see these boats from Deerfield up along the intercoastal. We lived in Boca and the boats along the intercoastal are incredible. A fish boat and a play boat. Just like at Boca Bash the boats were incredible and extremely high dollar.

[powerabout]

if the EPA wake up and concentrate on CO2, 4 slugs will have to change, cat cons etc as they are very co2 dirty compared with e-tecs
Perhaps sterndrives will become a cheaper alternative..lol

[JPEROG]

Depreciation, what you think a useless center console with 3, 4 or more four stroke money pits hanging on the transom is gonna be worth on the used market in 5 or ten years?

I keep wondering who that customer is, and just don't see it.

Its tough to see the customer demand and who will want center consoles LOL... Are you blind? Go try to order a Nor Tech, an MTI, a Mystic, a Cigarette, Yellowfin, or a Contender and see just how long you have to wait.

I agree that its mind boggling how much money is out there and wonder where all of these people come from but if you leave the bay and run up and down the coast, go to the Bahamas, or attend a couple of poker runs, you will see that there is a massive group of people that want them as "comfortable performance boats, fishing/pleasure boats, and in many cases a 2nd or 3rd boat". This trend has been going on for 10 years and isn't slowing down. A large percentage of buyers at this level will not be affected by a slowing economy so don't hold your breath waiting to see them selling for peanuts.

Joe

[JPEROG]

got a dock just past my pool in my back yard, at 18 scraped 65' shrimp boat hulls and painted in a day in key west at Steadmans Boatyard. shaft packings are a once a 5 yr. type of deal, talk about fuel, 4 at 20 gallons an hour,,, lets see ,,,that's 80 gallons an hour ,,, hmm :rolleyes: I'm just not getting it. yes, it's fast but that's about all it's good for, he fishes the Kingfish circuit and may run from Jax as far as New Smyrna and back in a day, the 3 engine one held 1500 gallons of fuel or some such # and no place for the princess to pee. that is just stupid. but he has a seafood restaurant and can write off for advertisement, while the rest of us poor schlubs stand back and watch. I'll take the Hatteras and a queen size nap spot while he's literally running over the top of the fish to get to where ever, one dude won the tournament in a 15' aluminum boat with a pool umbrella at the end of the jetty. ;):D:cool:




make that 500 gallons of fuel and 1500.00 to fill it up, still bs

Again Keith,

These guys are not on budget like we are. They are not bottom scrapers, they will not work on diesels themselves, and they don't care about fuel cost- so I am not expecting you to agree with it. I am just trying to help you understand it and why its all around us. These people want to get to their destination whether its the sandbar, island, fishing, whatever and then get back and put it away until next time.

Post up some pictures of your Hatt when you get it, I have always liked a classic sportfish.

Joe

[Whaaaaat]

Its tough to see the customer demand and who will want center consoles LOL... Are you blind? Go try to order a Nor Tech, an MTI, a Mystic, a Cigarette, Yellowfin, or a Contender and see just how long you have to wait.

I agree that its mind boggling how much money is out there and wonder where all of these people come from but if you leave the bay and run up and down the coast, go to the Bahamas, or attend a couple of poker runs, you will see that there is a massive group of people that want them as "comfortable performance boats, fishing/pleasure boats, and in many cases a 2nd or 3rd boat". This trend has been going on for 10 years and isn't slowing down. A large percentage of buyers at this level will not be affected by a slowing economy so don't hold your breath waiting to see them selling for peanuts.

Joe

You missed the point by a mile. I'm talking about used center consoles with more than 2 engines. I don't see a market for them. The used boat buyer can't support the fuel and maintenance cost on 4 engine boats. Plus most are to big to be trailered adding in storage cost. I see that there's a new market, I don't see the appeal of a fishing boat with a transom so cluttered it can't be fished from, but the new market is real. I just don't see any used market for those boats down the road.

[Chaz]

Jim Smith , Garlington are both on the same street as the Porsche shop that I do work for. Even thru the BoBumba years, they were building those huge sport fishing boats. Which in turn supports the cottage industry of vendors up and down both sides of the street that support them. Now in the trump era ... employee parking lots are overflowing ... everywhere !

One of my best friends fell into the position of "VP of Production" @ Dakota boats. They built an infused 36' open fish. He called me over to look at some stainless parts he needed made. Half teasing, I asked: is this a cut down 39' Cig or a stretched 31' Jupiter ?? Both, he said. All these "new" CC boats will fall right in a Mistress mold .. LOL
And there was a bunch of them springing up everywhere it seemed. I never really understood it. Like a lot of companys, they couldn't hold on thru the BoBumba years. Actually the owner bought the company from the bank for a song, ran it up the pole and had all intentions of bailing as soon as it looked good on paper.
I believe the assets went to Kings Hwy Ft. Pierce .. and nobody it seemed was buying anything new, at least not in numbers that they were being produced. Not $150,000 boats anyways. Now we're up to $180,000+ outboard packages ..
My dad could tell stories as a kid watching guys jump out of ten-story windows for a whole lot less ... :eek:
I fished off of a few of them for a while. Lots of room, rough water isn't really rough. But then when it rains, you get ******* wet .. :) It don't take three motors to skip 4 baits behind ya .. but they do come in handy when your having a party on board for 20 of your closest friends .. :D
And yes, they do have a place for the ladies to freshen up .. :thumbsup:

https://contenderboats.com/wp-content/uploads/GregPoland-Interior-Best-Center-Console-Contender-Boats-44ST-0118.jpg

I prefer to use the men's room. It duct's straight to EPA and CARB's main office buildings, that are full of non-elected, bureaucratic globalist leftards .. :p

https://cdn.dealeraccelerate.com/mc/2/20/1810/790x1024/2013-contender-25-tournament-center-console

[JPEROG]

I didn't miss your point. If there were used ones on the market right now, they would sell to the new buyer who doesn't want to wait and we haven't even talked about the next level of buyers looking to step up. No different then a used Doug Wright, Skater, STV, or Allison "a good used one sells instantly" because buyers don't want to wait and or couldn't afford a new one.

As for the used market not being able to afford the fuel, they just can't afford to use them as much (no different then its always been).

Just because you don't see the appeal, its obvious that the market does-they are considered "gentleman's performance, the women love them, and they can haul a bunch of people".

Will there be depreciation? Absolutely but that is the way it is with most toys "they are not purchased as an investment-rather a memory maker". Look at the hit new exotic car buyers take. Even Mercedes and BMW buyers take a major hit after after a year and 10,000 miles. Fortunately that is what gives guys like me a chance to own one eventually. Even if these things drop to half in 5 years, they will still be 3 to 5 hundred grand and there will be people grabbing them up. The boats that will be "cheap" are the off brand guys that are jumping in to compete and trying to grab the "uneducated- i don't want to wait" buyer in todays market. That is a dangerous path to me-no different then buying a knock off small boat (worth nothing when you want to sell it) but at least with outboards, you can pull the power and recover a good portion.

We just need to be thankful for the wealthy that bring these to production and keep our hobby moving. Without them, they system does not work.

Joe

[madmatic]

A bar friend of mine just bought a quad 400r center consol for fishing. Says it will cruise at 75mph. When i asked why not buy a diesel sport fisher his response was simple. He said "i dont have 3 days to fish away from the family and company. If i can only get out there one or two saturdays a month we are running 100 miles out to the banks. 4 hours of driving 10-12 hours of fishing. If i had to buy anything less i would have never gotten into fishing". The fact is theese hi performance muli engine cc boats do open up a lot of opportunity to wealthy people who other wise wouldn't even fish..

[Chaz]

Robert ballparked it on page two, but let's try again. And yes I know, ifin ya gotta ask, ya probably can't afford it.
Chaz = Just curious .. :D

Good morning Mr. service writer. I'd like to drop my boat off for its 100 hr service. I'll be out of town for a few days. So let me write you a check in full now. And my wife will pick the boat up when it's done ... How much should I make the check out for ...?

You guys did such a great job on my 100 hr service. That I brought it back for its 300 hr service. Again I'm going out of town ... how much should I write the check for ... ?

[powerabout]

will they be worth something once out of w/tee like any 4stroke?

[RSWORDS]

Here you go, one out of my shop done by me. 100 hour service. $236.41 including labor..... how much 2 stroke oil and extra fuel do you burn in 100 hours? The cost of operation in the end is a wash for most, and for someone that's uses the boat alot, you come ahead.

Winterizing (which most do at the same time they do the yearly/100 hour service is about $25 more)

445828

[blacktruck]

Im sure the price of service will far out weigh the depreciation of keeping a boat with 2 strokes. Not to mention the epa is closing in everyday on our sport and 2 strokes are an even easier target than pwcs.

Not the newer 2 strokes, they are fully compliant. Better than four strokes, the Evinrude G2.

[RSWORDS]

Not the newer 2 strokes, they are fully compliant. Better than four strokes, the Evinrude G2.

Not for long. Why you think everyone else has phased out DI 2 strokes?

[blacktruck]

Not for long. Why you think everyone else has phased out DI 2 strokes?

There are a few reasons Merc and Yamaha switched; marketing purposes, cost, and they didn't have the best technology. The new G2 technology is excellent technology, and super efficient. BRP builds four stroke engines too, they are great engine builders, but choose the two stroke for marine for it's superior emissions and power. The EPA compliance has to do with emissions, the engine configuration is less important.

[RSWORDS]

Yes that has ALOT to do with why they were phased out. The opti would have met the latest emissions regulations but the next phase slated it wouldn't. Mercury chose to put its R&D into better 4 stroke technology.

The G2 is a torque monster. But so are the newest 4 strokes on the market. I'd love to see the old tug of war teat redone! Could be interesting

What BRP built 4 stroke outboards are out there? Last I heard they where rebadged Suzuki's. This has been a while back though. Have they started making there own yet?

[delawarerick]

So gone are the days when the working man could buy boat motor and trailer and take his son fishing tubing ex. 16 ft capri bayliner 75 force and trailer for 3k now you are gonna take the 2 strokes away build 4 strokes if the man could afford the 4 stroke he still has to afford service cause he can't work on it without software. Guess I'm old next I guess I say good old days. Next will be rubber bullets.

[rochelle howell]

Not quite yet, there's still a TON of 'em in the Midwest. Lived in Florida for 40 years, surprised as hell at how much serviceable "old junk" is still around. Ohio, short boat season, cold winters, not much in terms of decent local boat ramps. As long as they don't start outlawing 2 strokes like out west,I'll be fine.
Probably enough old junk around here to keep fiddlin' with for my next 20-30 years, GOD willing.
Poor man's paradise!
And I love the snow, too.

[powerabout]

Supercharging a consumer 4 stroke might be the only advantage they have over a 2 stroke.
It suits the packaging, you can cool the pistons,etc and it creates low down torque so a bit closer to a 2 stroke.
We seem to no longer care how heavy they are or expensive.
The gap between an outboard and a 7 Marine is getting closer....
Cant wait for a 1350 on an LDrive and we call it an outboard..lol

[RSWORDS]

Supercharging a consumer 4 stroke might be the only advantage they have over a 2 stroke.
It suits the packaging, you can cool the pistons,etc and it creates low down torque so a bit closer to a 2 stroke.
We seem to no longer care how heavy they are or expensive.
The gap between an outboard and a 7 Marine is getting closer....
Cant wait for a 1350 on an LDrive and we call it an outboard..lol

The newer motors have really closed the gap on low end torque. It's nothing like the turds from when 4strokes first appeared. I repowered a may craft from a 2003 225efi to a new 225 V6 and the grunt is as good or better.

Also look at Randy's review of the 300r vs the 300xs and how much faster it accelerates

[madmatic]

I just saw on fb randy just repowered one of his 21s from 2 stroke to 300r

[blkmtrfan]

So gone are the days when the working man could buy boat motor and trailer and take his son fishing tubing ex. 16 ft capri bayliner 75 force and trailer for 3k now you are gonna take the 2 strokes away build 4 strokes if the man could afford the 4 stroke he still has to afford service cause he can't work on it without software. Guess I'm old next I guess I say good old days. Next will be rubber bullets.

delawarerick, Bayliner still has that type of combo going:

160 BOWRIDER
STARTING AS LOW AS $16,499*

445954



Don't know if there as bad as the old Capri was, but it is in a working man's budget range


And they even have fishing boats:

ELEMENT F18
STARTING AS LOW AS $21,399*

445953

[Chaz]

Here you go, one out of my shop done by me. 100 hour service. $236.41 including labor..... how much 2 stroke oil and extra fuel do you burn in 100 hours? The cost of operation in the end is a wash for most, and for someone that's uses the boat alot, you come ahead.

Winterizing (which most do at the same time they do the yearly/100 hour service is about $25 more)

445828

And there is the honest answer to the question ... $ 236.41 :thumbsup:

That's a lil better than $7200 for three yamee-haaa's ... naut three - $2400 :eek::eek::eek:

[RSWORDS]

And there is the honest answer to the question ... $ 236.41 :thumbsup:

That's a lil better than $7200 for three yamee-haaa's ... naut three - $2400 :eek::eek::eek:

I'll have to look up my last 350 yamaha 100 hour service.

[powerabout]

I'll have to look up my last 350 yamaha 100 hour service.
is that the service where you have to replace the flywheel?

[RSWORDS]

is that the service where you have to replace the flywheel?

Lol that's a warrenty issue

[madmatic]

The yamaha 350s have problems with their crank and flywheel... Ive met a few owners with them and they all say they are limited to the upper rpm hours before extra service and inspections are required.

[RSWORDS]

Yep. Once 80 hours have been run between 3,400 - 4,250 rpm time for new flywheels. Its covered by yamaha for the life of the motors.

[powerabout]

Yep. Once 80 hours have been run between 3,400 - 4,250 rpm time for new flywheels. Its covered by yamaha for the life of the motors.
is that a living, changing v8 yam flywheels, hows the w/tee labour rate, do you get anything on the parts?

[RSWORDS]

is that a living, changing v8 yam flywheels, hows the w/tee labour rate, do you get anything on the parts?

I'm not a yamaha dealer so we dont do it. From what I gather its treated like a warrenty item. So you wouldnt get money from the parts but you get paid a flat rate.

[starviper10]

I think it's worth pointing out that there's a reason why there are long lead times on these new mercs. They can't make these fast enough to keep up with the demand, despite increasing production capacity. I'm not sure why people are questioning where the market is for these when this is the case. The new V6/V8's were released May 2018, and there's still a long lead time. I've heard the 450R's are in a similar boat as well.

Reading through this thread, I see a lot of references to the expensive offshore center console boats with multiple engines on them. While that might make up a large portion of the market for these engines, there are others out there. For example, the pontoon boat industry has absolutely taken off recently. Here in the midwest there are a lot of them. They are all largely outboard now, I see maybe 1 sterndrive for every 50+ outboard pontoons. For those buying these pontoons, they likely want a quiet motor, that doesn't make a bunch of bubbles at idle, can run on 87, doesn't vibrate a lot, looks modern, etc. And these new V6/V8 fourstrokes fit that bill nicely.

That being said, I think there are some markets that these will struggle to get into. For example, I think tow sports will largely remain inboard and sterndrive powered for obvious reasons.

The points regarding the pricing is fair, they are quite costly. But what hasn't become costly? A new ski boat is $100k, wakeboard boats are in excess of $150k, as are some pontoons. Hell pickup trucks are over $100k if you get a F450 platinum. I don't think this is solely a marine market trend

Just my $0.02

[noli]

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I think that you're on to sth here


I'm also days away from ordering a 200HP V8 for my 1987 Hydrostream






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[AZMIDLYF]

Noli, why not the 200HP V6 that is sub-500 Lbs?

[WavetoWave]

Yes that has ALOT to do with why they were phased out. The opti would have met the latest emissions regulations but the next phase slated it wouldn't. Mercury chose to put its R&D into better 4 stroke technology.

The G2 is a torque monster. But so are the newest 4 strokes on the market. I'd love to see the old tug of war teat redone! Could be interesting

What BRP built 4 stroke outboards are out there? Last I heard they where rebadged Suzuki's. This has been a while back though. Have they started making there own yet?

BRP makes four strokes for their sea doo, ski Doo and rotax line of engines. They make a four stroke super charged 3 cyl that makes 300 HP. https://www.rotax.com/en/products/rotax-powertrains/details/rotax-1630-ace.html

They choose the two stroke for marine for several reasons. I'm a fan of both. Having the choice as a consumer is great.

[WavetoWave]

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I think that you're on to sth here


I'm also days away from ordering a 200HP V8 for my 1987 Hydrostream






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I'd probably go with the 225 V6 as well. Lighter is better!

[WavetoWave]

We do need more tug of wars for sure though.

[noli]

Noli, why not the 200HP V6 that is sub-500 Lbs?


I believe the ProXS only comes in V8 ?





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[RSWORDS]

I believe the ProXS only comes in V8 ?





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The 175 pro XS is V6 but the rest are the V8

[RSWORDS]

BRP makes four strokes for their sea doo, ski Doo and rotax line of engines. They make a four stroke super charged 3 cyl that makes 300 HP. https://www.rotax.com/en/products/rotax-powertrains/details/rotax-1630-ace.html

They choose the two stroke for marine for several reasons. I'm a fan of both. Having the choice as a consumer is great.

Yes they do. But put that 300hp 4 stroke behind some weight. It wont work on an outboard.