Hustler PT 221

[WavetoWave]

Hustler makes a really cool 21' and I did a write up about it. They have one they built on spec a while ago, without power, ready to go. Very cool boat.

https://www.wavetowave.com/home/2019/5/14/hustler-pt221-a-modern-single-engine-performance-boat

[WavetoWave]

If interested, email me and I can send details

[Turborr]

Sharp looking modern take on the 21 SOB. Wonder about the performance with a small pad and what the cost of admission is?

[WavetoWave]

Sharp looking modern take on the 21 SOB. Wonder about the performance with a small pad and what the cost of admission is?

I'll ask Paul. I bet around 70 with a 200

[XstreamVking]

Cool boat but the rear speakers are goofy.

[moatorbotin]

Cool boat but the rear speakers are goofy. Goofy is a polite way to phrase it.

[mragu]

I have to see, I have owned many 21 sob boats and the hustler I had which is essentially the same hull as the one pictured, was an excellent riding hull and one I enjoyed driving the best

[FUJIMO]

hustler, superboat, carrazza, apache, rio, gulfstream, midocean, spectre, shadow, etc., same bottom, no changes, 6" pad. many more.

[WavetoWave]

hustler, superboat, carrazza, apache, rio, gulfstream, midocean, spectre, shadow, etc., same bottom, no changes, 6" pad. many more.

Mark from Activator did this one for Hustler. Mostly the same, except the deck obviously.

[FUJIMO]

do your research. the bottoms are all the same over the years. different decks. same hulls. https://www.speedonthewater.com/images/stories/hustler_pt211_cockpit.jpg

[FUJIMO]

this is one of first ones built in 1985...
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=252530&d=1331059463

[FUJIMO]

reworked hustler promo photo from miami boat show 2012...
http://yachts-data.com/yacht/Hustler-Powerboats-Hustler-PT-221.jpg

[FUJIMO]

original photo...
http://www.hustlerspeedboats.net/speedwear/images/pt_221/image-1.jpg

[FUJIMO]

look familiar?...
http://images1.americanlisted.com/nlarge/2014-hustler-pt221-summer-special-americanlisted_33938089.jpg

[Greg G]

This is narrower, different length. Hustler claims it's an original design.

Original design? On another note shouldn't you be a supporting vendor?

[WavetoWave]

look familiar?...
http://images1.americanlisted.com/nlarge/2014-hustler-pt221-summer-special-americanlisted_33938089.jpg

Ya, that's the one.

[WavetoWave]

Original design? On another note shouldn't you be a supporting vendor?

I'm a team member, but glad to look into being a supporting vendor.

[Greg G]

You promote your blog often, makes sense to pay up. It's short money for all the content you have access to here.

[WavetoWave]

You promote your blog often, makes sense to pay up. It's short money for all the content you have access to here.

Always happy to support S&F. It's truly a great community for the types of boats I enjoy.

[WavetoWave]

The Hustler PT 221 demo boat is being auctioned off. Rigged for Merc, no engine.

https://boatsonblocks.com/collections/frontpage/products/hustler-pt-221-outboard-no-engine

[Merc-Cruiser]

You promote your blog often, makes sense to pay up. It's short money for all the content you have access to here.
i think he joined, didn't he? maybe not.:nonod:

[Merc-Cruiser]

be interesting to know when the boats fiberglass was layed up originally. as its still being sold as a new boat all these years later.

[WavetoWave]

be interesting to know when the boats fiberglass was layed up originally. as its still being sold as a new boat all these years later.

I think it was 2014.

[WavetoWave]

I think if the boat had a nice red boot stripe, and a newer 225 or 250 ProXS, it would be a great combo. The back hatch has those speakers, but you could replace that, it is just the hatch.

https://boatsonblocks.com/collections/frontpage/products/hustler-pt-221-outboard-no-engine

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48632921737_04300e3760_b.jpg

[Merc-Cruiser]

I sat in the boat at the show years back. The ergonomics of the helm seat to the control & the helm was really bad. No resale now that its an old boat when you buy it, & that the hull number has been changed so many times. Its a big part of the reason it hasn't sold. Been there. Its now worth half of what it should of sold for back when. Reality sucks.

[Greg G]

The interior design of that boat may be the worst I have seen in an SOB. Bad from front to back.

[WavetoWave]

I sat in the boat at the show years back. The ergonomics of the helm seat to the control & the helm was really bad. No resale now that its an old boat when you buy it, & that the hull number has been changed so many times. Its a big part of the reason it hasn't sold. Been there. Its now worth half of what it should of sold for back when. Reality sucks.
Don't totally disagree, but that's not too hard of a fix.

[blacktruck]

The interior design of that boat may be the worst I have seen in an SOB. Bad from front to back.

I don't like the L shaped rear bench, but everything else is an easy fix. Foot throttle, side shift. Red and black boot stripe and good to go.

[moatorbotin]

Don't totally disagree, but that's not too hard of a fix.
so long as the price reflects that

[donmac]

jackplate looks like it belongs on "mattel" toy! does someone actually sell units and they keep the motor on the transom

[Merc-Cruiser]

jackplate looks like it belongs on "mattel" toy! does someone actually sell units and they keep the motor on the transom
By units, you mean does Hustler sell this same boat, only with the engines bolted directly to the transom? Nobody knows, because it is extremely rare when Hustler makes one of these. If the boat only can be rigged, with the jackplate as a necessity, then the boat has issues. Someone designed the transom too tall, transoms too thick to bolt to, or engine can't be trimmed/tilted all the way up, boats got a hook in the bottom, etc.,who knows?...otherwise simply rig the motor direct to the transom, and fill any holes that need to be filled/gelcoated. This along with the other goofy rigging this boat has. Time(and parts) is money. But hey, anything fiberglass can be fixed.

[donmac]

By units, you mean does Hustler sell this same boat, only with the engines bolted directly to the transom? Nobody knows, because it is extremely rare when Hustler makes one of these. If the boat only can be rigged, with the jackplate as a necessity, then the boat has issues. Someone designed the transom too tall, transoms too thick to bolt to, or engine can't be trimmed/tilted all the way up, boats got a hook in the bottom, etc.,who knows?...otherwise simply rig the motor direct to the transom, and fill any holes that need to be filled/gelcoated. This along with the other goofy rigging this boat has. Time(and parts) is money. But hey, anything fiberglass can be fixed. I was curious if this jackplate is actually a production unit anybody can buy and who makes it, or tried one?

[Printpresswrench]

Looks like a porta bracket? Nice stuff. Cool boat, would be fun for the small lakes and rivers around our neck of the woods.

[mjw930]

jackplate looks like it belongs on "mattel" toy! does someone actually sell units and they keep the motor on the transom

Thats a Porta Bracket, about $2800 retail and well proven. Probably one of the strongest adjustable brackets available.

Regardless what everyone wants to think, the fact it hasn’t sold in 5 years points out there really isn’t a market for these boats anymore. $70k buys a really nice CC or deck boat so the wife and kids are happy.

If I want to go fast for the same money I’ll buy a brand new Talon. Oh wait, I did that :D

[blacktruck]

jackplate looks like it belongs on "mattel" toy! does someone actually sell units and they keep the motor on the transom

It's a porta bracket, one of the best brackets out there. You don't want the engine mounted to the transom.

[blacktruck]

By units, you mean does Hustler sell this same boat, only with the engines bolted directly to the transom? Nobody knows, because it is extremely rare when Hustler makes one of these. If the boat only can be rigged, with the jackplate as a necessity, then the boat has issues. Someone designed the transom too tall, transoms too thick to bolt to, or engine can't be trimmed/tilted all the way up, boats got a hook in the bottom, etc.,who knows?...otherwise simply rig the motor direct to the transom, and fill any holes that need to be filled/gelcoated. This along with the other goofy rigging this boat has. Time(and parts) is money. But hey, anything fiberglass can be fixed.

There's nothing wrong with it. You want a jack plate on most performance v hulls.

[FUJIMO]

The boat was built without a splashwell, negating a bracket of some sort.

[blacktruck]

By units, you mean does Hustler sell this same boat, only with the engines bolted directly to the transom? Nobody knows, because it is extremely rare when Hustler makes one of these. If the boat only can be rigged, with the jackplate as a necessity, then the boat has issues. Someone designed the transom too tall, transoms too thick to bolt to, or engine can't be trimmed/tilted all the way up, boats got a hook in the bottom, etc.,who knows?...otherwise simply rig the motor direct to the transom, and fill any holes that need to be filled/gelcoated. This along with the other goofy rigging this boat has. Time(and parts) is money. But hey, anything fiberglass can be fixed.

There's nothing goofy about the rigging. The shifter placement is a little odd, but that's about it.

It's an awesome boat. I'd just replace the rear hatch, and maybe paint on a stripe. Built like a brick.

[Greg G]

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Well there are two days to go in this auction for the Hustler 21 SOB and not one bid ............... :nonod:



This is a very unique example of a very rare boat. Built on spec by Hustler Powerboats, and run for only about 5 hours for testing, this Hustler is built to an incredibly high standard. Using the same build technology as their larger offshore boats, the deck and cockpit are one piece. This PT 221 also features vacuum bagged foam core stringers, plus every piece of hardware is reinforced and backed by composite board.

This example of the Hustler PT 221 comes with rigging for a Mercury Marine, but has no engine. If the buyer needs a trailer, Hustler can arrange for a trailer to be made at an additional cost, separate from the winning bid. Hustler used this boat primarily for promotional usage, therefore is like new. Owner reports only about 5 hours of usage in the water.

The sleek sport boat is 21’ feet long, and has a 7’10” beam. With a deep 22 degree hull and pad bottom, the boat is very capable in rough water, and can handle a range of different power options, depending on usage.

Inside the boat, you will find custom made bucket seats up front, and a very useful L shaped rear bench seat, creating a very practical layout. Upholstery is white with red trim. On the exterior, the boat is finished in pure white, with the Hustler logo on the deck in red letters. Owner reports no blemishes or scratches.

Specs:
Length 21’
Beam 7’10”
Hull 22 degree
Fuel 67 gallon

Standard Equipment
All Switches integrated into custom dashboard
Cockpit cover
Dash: Aircraft style with complete instrumentation; Fuel level, speedometer, tachometer, voltmeter, water temperature
2 Race style front bucket seats & foot rests
Mercury side mount shift/throttle control with engine trim
Custom steering wheel
Safety ignition kill switch
Battery switch
Cockpit floor- non-skid fiberglass
L shaped rear bench seat
Forward under deck ski & storage compartment
Grab handles
Stereo with 4 speakers
Cockpit side storage
Cockpit lighting

[blacktruck]

I think Hustler should've set it up with an engine and trailer, made it turnkey.

[FUJIMO]

There's nothing goofy about the rigging. The shifter placement is a little odd, but that's about it.


Would you move the drivers seat way forward to be able to reach the steering wheel, as mentioned, or would you replace/relocate the steering helm somehow with an extension shaft, or?

[blacktruck]

Would you move the drivers seat way forward to be able to reach the steering wheel, as mentioned, or would you replace/relocate the steering helm somehow with an extension shaft, or?

The seat is on a slider, so I'd just slide it up to the best position. There's a pic of Joe driving, looks perfect.

[Greg G]

That dash would need a total rework IMO. I guarantee you can't see the gauges at speed and the shifter/throttle is basically useless in that position. The stereo should be on a swing down hideaway bracket behind the dash to get if off the dash completely. The black button box looks terrible.

The you have to chop the speaker bubbles out of the hatch and re-glass that to close it. And then open the gunnel to recess the speakers in there.

Also, the space between the two foot rests should have been a storage locker so you have some place to put junk and have it secure at 70 mph.

All it takes is time and money to fix all of that ..............:eek:

[Greg G]

Then you have to buy a new trailer for $5k, and find a used low hour 300XS for $10K to power it. I'd also want to know why the boat's stern is sitting so low in the water at idle. Seems way to low to me.

[blacktruck]

That dash would need a total rework IMO. I guarantee you can't see the gauges at speed and the shifter/throttle is basically useless in that position. The stereo should be on a swing down hideaway bracket behind the dash to get if off the dash completely. The black button box looks terrible.

The you have to chop the speaker bubbles out of the hatch and re-glass that to close it. And then open the gunnel to recess the speakers in there.

Also, the space between the two foot rests should have been a storage locker so you have some place to put junk and have it secure at 70 mph.

All it takes is time and money to fix all of that ..............:eek:

Only thing I agree on there would be the shifter, easy fix is foot throttle. The water proof buttons are great. There is storage under the rear and floor.

I'd just replace the hatch.

"The stereo should be on a swing down hideaway bracket behind the dash to get if off the dash completely" lol. What the heck is that, why. Haha.

[blacktruck]

Then you have to buy a new trailer for $5k, and find a used low hour 300XS for $10K to power it. I'd also want to know why the boat's stern is sitting so low in the water at idle. Seems way to low to me.

Yes, every boat that has no engine would need an engine! Haha. I get the boat is not for you. That's funny.

[Greg G]

To each his own my friend. No bids on the boat at all at an opening price of $28,000 with one day to go.

[blacktruck]

To each his own my friend. No bids on the boat at all at an opening price of $28,000 with one day to go.

Ya, I would've had an engine and trailer, agreed there. Have to make as turnkey as possible.

[blacktruck]

I think the auction is a good idea though.

[Merc-Cruiser]

I think the auction is a good idea though.
is there a reserve?

[Merc-Cruiser]

Picture yourself running the boat wide open with that throttle, with the lever all the way to the top, leaning way forward with your hand on it. Its a joke. Nobody rigs those type of helms with a binnacle control for stand-up operation. Nobody. It also needs that removed. A cover plate fabricated for the binnacle hole. A helm side shelf/box design that the driver can use as an armrest(a neccesity) that has a Kiekhaefer throttle/shifter "type" control installed just ahead of it. You know, like every other boat has like this one. Normal. Not Abbey-Nornal, lol.:smiletest:

[blacktruck]

Picture yourself running the boat wide open with that throttle, with the lever all the way to the top, leaning way forward with your hand on it. Its a joke. Nobody rigs those type of helms with a binnacle control for stand-up operation. Nobody. It also needs that removed. A cover plate fabricated for the binnacle hole. A helm side shelf/box design that the driver can use as an armrest(a neccesity) that has a Kiekhaefer throttle/shifter "type" control installed just ahead of it. You know, like every other boat has like this one. Normal. Not Abbey-Nornal, lol.:smiletest:

Foot throttle. Side shifter is better, but Definitely wouldn't want a Kiekhaefer throttle/shift.

[mjw930]

Foot throttles are fine for lake or river boats but worthless in near shore rough water. Good Zero Effort controls within easy reach of the driver would be fine considering this isn’t really going to run all that fast.

[FUJIMO]

is there a reserve?
Good question. You would need to know this to make sure your not wasting your time & money and the sellers time also...I would think.

[blacktruck]

Foot throttles are fine for lake or river boats but worthless in near shore rough water. Good Zero Effort controls within easy reach of the driver would be fine considering this isn’t really going to run all that fast.

No way. Those would suck on this boat.

[mjw930]

No way. Those would suck on this boat.
You are right in the current location, it just needs a normal side mount control mounted do you can reach it easily from the seat.

[Merc-Cruiser]

Tell Bob Saccenti, throttleman extrodinaire, and builder of all the 21 & 22 Apache's(same hull), that installed the Kiekhafer Zero-Effort throttle & shifts as standard equipment, that they would suck on this type boat. Or the many other performance boat builders over the years, with the exact same type of boats, that used them, standard equipment. You work for bob's machine or something, lol.

[Merc-Cruiser]

http://features.boats.com/boat-content/files/2013/09/intercepton-throttle.jpg

[blacktruck]

Tell Bob Saccenti, throttleman extrodinaire, and builder of all the 21 & 22 Apache's(same hull), that installed the Kiekhafer Zero-Effort throttle & shifts as standard equipment, that they would suck on this type boat. Or the many other performance boat builders over the years, with the exact same type of boats, that used them, standard equipment. You work for bob's machine or something, lol.

If that's what you want, but on a single engine OB, not a fan at all. You rarely see them on single OB but again, whatever you like.

[FUJIMO]

Sure ya do. We understand if you have'nt though. Maybe this is why the boat hasn't moved.https://d1h6cla1qbh6o4.cloudfront.net/Listing/64455/2084906L.jpg

[blacktruck]

Sure ya do. We understand if you have'nt though. Maybe this is why the boat hasn't moved.https://d1h6cla1qbh6o4.cloudfront.net/Listing/64455/2084906L.jpg

Good luck mounting it on that flush side. Lol. There's no room on that Hustler. Not a fan of that setup

[FUJIMO]

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/attachments/apache/333605d1206912754-apache-scout-weight-000_1611.jpg

[blacktruck]

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/attachments/apache/333605d1206912754-apache-scout-weight-000_1611.jpg

Dude, yes, lots of old boats have them. For general use, I'm not fan. They suck on small single engine boats. I'm glad you like them, and you have pictures. Haha.

[FUJIMO]

https://www.powerboatlistings.com/powerimg/m/36729/IMG_20150513_085901634.jpg

[FUJIMO]

It does not have to be a Kiekhaefer brand. Just a similar style. Like Mercruiser said, that TYPE of throttle. NOT a freak'n binnacle. You like binnacle controls for center-console boats, in your sportboat, great. To each there own. Its not what control I like, its about what should be in there and what sells. Again, just ONE more reason nobody likes this boat & it sits. Stagnant money not working for the owner. Wait a minute? Did you rig this boat?:rolleyes:

[Merc-Cruiser]

black truck. keep up the verbage. its giving this boat more views and exposure, bad or good, than its ever had, lol.

[Greg G]

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You could not possibly run that boat with a binnacle set up. In fact it is dangerous. Whoever rigged that thing has never even been in a fast SOB IMO. Probably a fish boat rigger I would think.

[blacktruck]

It does not have to be a Kiekhaefer brand. Just a similar style. Like Mercruiser said, that TYPE of throttle. NOT a freak'n binnacle. You like binnacle controls for center-console boats, in your sportboat, great. To each there own. Its not what control I like, its about what should be in there and what sells. Again, just ONE more reason nobody likes this boat & it sits. Stagnant money not working for the owner. Wait a minute? Did you rig this boat?:rolleyes:

Lol. I specifically said that I didn't like the binnacle. Sorry buddy. Try not to get too bent out of shape just because in most cases I prefer a side throttle and or a foot throttle for a sport boat. Why do you take it so personal?

[blacktruck]

.......
You could not possibly run that boat with a binnacle set up. In fact it is dangerous. Whoever rigged that thing has never even been in a fast SOB IMO. Probably a fish boat rigger I would think.

Totally agree. Love the Nordic, Progression and Velocity setups there. Just not a fan of the zero efforts

[blacktruck]

black truck. keep up the verbage. its giving this boat more views and exposure, bad or good, than its ever had, lol.

Haha. Maybe. I hate that binnacle, just not a fan of the zero effort. It's not my fault a couple got so upset over that.

[Greg G]

I guess no one likes the Hustler ..............

[blacktruck]

https://www.powerboatlistings.com/powerimg/m/36729/IMG_20150513_085901634.jpg

There you go, looks like a foot throttle!

[blacktruck]

I guess no one likes the Hustler ..............

They screwed it up too much. Just needs too much work.

[TooStroked]

Totally agree. Love the Nordic, Progression and Velocity setups there. Just not a fan of the zero efforts
Like this? Foot throttle and foot trim!

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[blkmtrfan]

Foot throttle (on a slide for adjustment) and "blinker" stalk trim in mine

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[Dave S]

More than any controls........Kill switch...... 1st steering......JMO

[Merc-Cruiser]

all blacktrucks advertising, and still no sale. lol so, was the reserve $16,000. or?

[Greg G]

Of course not. That number was placed by the owner at the end of the auction.

[WavetoWave]

Didn't meet reserve.

[hotdog1922]

I bought a 21 Hustler when they first came out in 85 at the NY boat show. Said I wanted to put the new Evinrude V8. They said it will handle it no problem. Boat had a Gil Bracket with a notched transom. I bought the engine local and rigging. Boat would not plane off at all. Sold V8 and bought V6 . Still had problems planing . Had to sue them . They had boat for months to make it work. They agreed to put K planes on. I agreed . When I went to pick the boat up I saw they put bennet tabs on instead . Sold boat shortly after that. Live and learn.

[blacktruck]

I bought a 21 Hustler when they first came out in 85 at the NY boat show. Said I wanted to put the new Evinrude V8. They said it will handle it no problem. Boat had a Gil Bracket with a notched transom. I bought the engine local and rigging. Boat would not plane off at all. Sold V8 and bought V6 . Still had problems planing . Had to sue them . They had boat for months to make it work. They agreed to put K planes on. I agreed . When I went to pick the boat up I saw they put bennet tabs on instead . Sold boat shortly after that. Live and learn.

So strange. Why couldn't you get it to plane out? Seems like anyone who owned one loved it. It's a really common hull design. Wasn't aware they notched the transom on the Hustler version.

[hotdog1922]

So strange. Why couldn't you get it to plane out? Seems like anyone who owned one loved it. It's a really common hull design. Wasn't aware they notched the transom on the Hustler version.
Maybe notched the first ones and realized the problem.

[hotdog1922]

So strange. Why couldn't you get it to plane out? Seems like anyone who owned one loved it. It's a really common hull design. Wasn't aware they notched the transom on the Hustler version.
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Nice looking boat but with that notched transom and engine hanging way back there was the problem

[blacktruck]

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Nice looking boat but with that notched transom and engine hanging way back there was the problem

That is a lot of setback, but lots of boats have a notch and setback with no problem. Can't see it being the issue. That's too bad you never set it up right. Cool boat.

[Greg G]

https://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/d/west-babylon-21-hustler-speedboat-hull/6994940016.html

[blacktruck]

https://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/d/west-babylon-21-hustler-speedboat-hull/6994940016.html

Looks cool all white.

[TooStroked]

https://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/d/west-babylon-21-hustler-speedboat-hull/6994940016.html
Is it just me, or does a boat with no cover(s) or even provisions for covers, left outside on a lift, concern a prospective buyer?

[blacktruck]

Is it just me, or does a boat with no cover(s) or even provisions for covers concern a prospective buyer?

First thing I thought when I saw it.

[Greg G]

Makes -0- sense, agree.

[Hachuky]

How much the hull