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HaulNbass
02-06-2019, 03:41 PM
I have skeeter wrangler120hp. I currently have a 1990,225hp, rude on it now but am having fuel feed issues. I also have a 1980 Johnson 150 crossflow (runs good). When on skeeter only ran 68mph. W/13.5in. 25 pitch 4 blade shooter. Ran 70mph w/ 21p raker, not fast enough. Lastly I have a 1985 Johnson 140,v4,looper. What engine can I put on boat to get around 90mph. With not much more than polishing,exhaust widening,maybe mild porting,jets. Or am I just wishing. Know it will handle best w v-4 on it. Just dont think I can get 85-90mph out of it, though rpms are rpms. Am running 14inches of setback.

Merc 2.5
02-06-2019, 07:24 PM
So I thought I was bad , was runnin a modded 200 on a 15ft , to b perfectly honest, I think u could use any of the 3 motors and still not reach ur goal, I think bote gonna b way to hard to handle , mine was very stupid over 65 , mite wanna try less set back for short bote? , the 150 will do fine , the 200 will get there quicker but not real sure u can make it much faster on top unless u can really control it , maybe ur hull is diff enough it will handle it but if it does , I think 80 would damn near kill u. But they r really really fun to drive up to that point

I took mota off pit on 18.5 and runs around ur goal so far without much setup time,

Merc 2.5
02-06-2019, 07:27 PM
I have skeeter wrangler120hp. I currently have a 1990,225hp, rude on it now but am having fuel feed issues. I also have a 1980 Johnson 150 crossflow (runs good). When on skeeter only ran 68mph. W/13.5in. 25 pitch 4 blade shooter. Ran 70mph w/ 21p raker, not fast enough. Lastly I have a 1985 Johnson 140,v4,looper. What engine can I put on boat to get around 90mph. With not much more than polishing,exhaust widening,maybe mild porting,jets. Or am I just wishing. Know it will handle best w v-4 on it. Just don’t think I can get 85-90mph out of it, though rpm’s are rpm’s. Am running 14inches of setback.

What is mph with 225 now?

HaulNbass
02-07-2019, 01:15 AM
What is mph with 225 now?
Before it went on a weird fuel feed prob 78 w/ 28 chopper but was not running right ran for bout hour went to crap then ran 8mph went dead and back washed boat, been driving fast boats at 13 yrs old

HaulNbass
02-07-2019, 01:20 AM
So I thought I was bad , was runnin a modded 200 on a 15ft , to b perfectly honest, I think u could use any of the 3 motors and still not reach ur goal, I think bote gonna b way to hard to handle , mine was very stupid over 65 , mite wanna try less set back for short bote? , the 150 will do fine , the 200 will get there quicker but not real sure u can make it much faster on top unless u can really control it , maybe ur hull is diff enough it will handle it but if it does , I think 80 would damn near kill u. But they r really really fun to drive up to that point

I took mota off pit on 18.5 and runs around ur goal so far without much setup time,
Just want boat to stop following me to my holes in tournaments it is not right I got to ride around till they leave going to put electric fuel pump on 225 ride see if that works thank you all for your help much appreciated happy boating. Oh yea I put a fuel tank in bow to fill w water from one of my livewell pumps for ballast rides pretty OK in choppy water round 77

Merc 2.5
02-07-2019, 06:21 AM
Do u got a pic of ur bote u can post?

hsbob
02-08-2019, 03:18 PM
be careful with the 4 blade props, that have too much transom lift. i used a 4 bl turbo prop on a 16' vamp w 175 omc. i lost steering when the boat was fully out of the water.

Merc 2.5
02-08-2019, 04:36 PM
be careful with the 4 blade props, that have too much transom lift. i used a 4 bl turbo prop on a 16' vamp w 175 omc. i lost steering when the boat was fully out of the water.

I had this prob runnin a slightly modded fury 3 prop , had way way to much lift, bow and stern

HaulNbass
02-09-2019, 04:25 AM
Thanks all for the input think y’all convinced me to put 1981 150 crossflow on I have a 79,mid off a 235,and bubble back inner and outer might just try to find a big bore 235 Powerhead put it on and still on it have 395lbs.of engine on the back, the 225,looper on it now is around 450lbs. Plus cheaper parts I think. Thanks again everyone safe boating!!!!

HaulNbass
02-19-2019, 10:52 AM
Can anyone tell me how to post a picture? I want to post a pic. Of my boat to get advice on how I have engine setback.

Merc 2.5
02-19-2019, 12:47 PM
Theres a icon in bar above where u type , looks like a window with tree in it , I'm also using phone but should b there

home made tunnel
02-19-2019, 09:40 PM
Or go to the "Go Advanced" tab, and click the paperclip for attachments.

Motv18
02-22-2019, 03:01 PM
I found it interesting you were only turning a 25” with the 150 xf. Your also at the speed you need a pointy nose lower, what’s the current set up. Propshaft to pad height ( if it has it or last strake),Gearing, ect. 14” is a bit far back for 70’s.

Without a pointy lower it it looks like the 25 was slipping massively on the 150.

Might also check for hooks in the hull.

The v4 will give you the best stock running as the 120 was a v4. But hot rodded v4 are light quick brusiers won’t see 90 though without turning a few thousand over stock.

Im probably wrong but some numbers just did not add up for me so asking.

HaulNbass
02-24-2019, 12:36 AM
Just found that the “grey fuel lines” I bought was told were the best, come to find out they have a liner in them that collapsed but never came apart, and restricted fuel supplie greatly so every engine I put on were leaned out fuel starved. Pray not hurt!? Engines seem to like 2,3/4-3,1/2 below concave speed pad, went from 14 inches of setback to 6, boat running good now but porpoises at low speed. Engine is stock except for boysenberry reeds,polished intake, bobs big foot nose cone, and 2x bigger high speed jets & hot plugs. 14:26 gear. Waiting till tomorrow to ream it out w 26 chopper prop. Thank everyone very much happy safe boating. Have blessed day amen.

Merc 2.5
02-24-2019, 12:09 PM
A drag foil of sumkind will stop low speed porpoiseing, it helped on mine when I ran one , did u try post a pic yet?

HaulNbass
02-24-2019, 01:37 PM
A girlfriend is going to show me how to post pic tonight. Was wanting to heliarc some kind of aluminum hydrofoil only one Id really design one like is the bob’s machine shop one, but a good bit smaller. Was going to test boat today but chop is to big on lake to be haulNbass across it. Will get some pics up tonight she knows how to do it, I’m technically ignorant sorry. Have a blessed day everyone,& happy safe boating, amen

patchesII
02-24-2019, 06:02 PM
You’ll have your hands full in a Skeeter Wrangler at 90. One issue I see is you’re running aconed gearcase 3” below the bottom. Engine needs to come up a lot

Merc 2.5
02-24-2019, 07:25 PM
You’ll have your hands full in a Skeeter Wrangler at 90. One issue I see is you’re running aconed gearcase 3” below the bottom. Engine needs to come up a lot

I had a 15 ft aries that I slowly worked up to a 2.5 200 and ,with yrs and yrs of drivin thing thang I never could hold it over 70 , always had back out way b4 wot , it was lot more than a handful, but did have single cable steer, I'd love see yours in action , u prob have a better pad neway, I try post up a pic of my old boat with 200431820

HaulNbass
02-24-2019, 08:57 PM
Yes sir that Aries looks like it would be a handful did it have a stepped hull? I had a 19ft shadow w hopped up 235rudeson it rode on air sold it quick. A girlfriend is stopping by to show me how to post pics of my skeeter and ranger185-V. Thanks for showing my all yalls boatmuch appreciated!

HaulNbass
02-25-2019, 10:36 AM
431857Finally she showed me how to post pics. My skeeter wrangler 120hp15ft,850lbs w/ 1990,225hp. Evenrude bobs nose cone

HaulNbass
02-25-2019, 10:42 AM
431869431862431863431865431866Anyone know how to rotate my pics right way up?

HaulNbass
02-25-2019, 10:47 AM
431867431868431868Why are my pics sideways $#!+

HaulNbass
02-27-2019, 10:47 AM
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Merc 2.5
02-27-2019, 02:21 PM
Nice little rig there , has lot better hull than my old 88 did , so hows it doin with fuel line fixed?

HaulNbass
02-28-2019, 11:30 AM
Nice little rig there , has lot better hull than my old 88 did , so hows it doin with fuel line fixed?
Haven’t been back to lake to windy now rain. I’ll post a pic of how it sits in lake really low in back got 1200gph pump for when I’m taking waves fishing

Merc 2.5
02-28-2019, 11:45 AM
Ya my rub rail was just touching water with just me and under with 2 or more , if stood on back water run in over back corner. Was able to run real hi on plate for that reason I think

gotboostedvr6
02-28-2019, 03:56 PM
Looks tippy

FMP
02-28-2019, 05:39 PM
431867431868431868Why are my pics sideways $#!+

Take the pic with more width , turn the camera phone 90, maybe that'll do it?

Nice clean clean clean BlackMax 175 !

Merc 2.5
02-28-2019, 05:43 PM
Take the pic with more width , turn the camera phone 90, maybe that'll do it?

Nice clean clean clean BlackMax 175 !

Black max 175?? Is that 235 omc

Motv18
02-28-2019, 05:52 PM
Nice. Enjoy.

HaulNbass
03-02-2019, 08:20 AM
Engine on boat in pic is 1990 evenrude225 w/low water pick up

FMP
03-02-2019, 08:50 AM
Yes I see that, I didn't have time to finish my post. The 1750 for sale from another thread here would fit that boat well. But you're full up with OMC !

pjbrownva
03-08-2019, 08:22 PM
Yes I see that, I didn't have time to finish my post. The 1750 for sale from another thread here would fit that boat well. But you're full up with OMC !

Really nice boat. Enjoy it, and B safe! :thumbsup:

FMP
03-08-2019, 09:41 PM
Really nice boat. Enjoy it, and B safe! :thumbsup:

Sure, LOL! And I'll pass on the message:thumbsup:

pjbrownva
03-09-2019, 06:25 AM
Sure, LOL! And I'll pass on the message:thumbsup:

Yes, please do! LOL!!!

Will hedrick
03-14-2019, 07:19 AM
Just want boat to stop following me to my holes in tournaments it is not right I got to ride around till they leave going to put electric fuel pump on 225 ride see if that works thank you all for your help much appreciated happy boating. Oh yea I put a fuel tank in bow to fill w water from one of my livewell pumps for ballast rides pretty OK in choppy water round 77

That's why I run an allison w a 3,4 litre

HaulNbass
03-14-2019, 12:19 PM
I really like the old Allison short front deck looks like a tri hull but is a v- hull don’t think it’s stepped don’t know what model it is but would buy one if I could find one. They would fly w/ a 200 on em and back then they were cross flow omc on ones I saw! I’ve had merc’s and omc on my boats throughout the years they are both good in my opinion merc seem to have more on top, omc seems to have torque but what do I know. Lmk about 1750, happy safe boating to everyone and thanks much!

Merc 2.5
03-14-2019, 12:35 PM
Theres 2 for sale in under 20ft section , looks b nice boat xheap. It's not xb tho

HaulNbass
03-31-2019, 03:26 PM
I took JP down from almost 14in.to 9in and went testing 3in below pad at around 64 it started venalating or chine walking. Floor it can’t get flat out got to get out pretty immediately. Going to raise motor more to see if I have too much load on pad. Got a question if I make my concave pad flat will it help porpoiseing. I know it will slap waves more and not corner as good,don’t think it would make it much more fun to have to drive it! Oh drives like dream at neutral trim. I also added bob’s tru tracker hydrofoil.

Merc 2.5
04-05-2019, 05:11 PM
Tryin rasing it back up but my guess u will never get full potential from motor cause it's just gonna get to stupid, that's the prob I had , I was runnin jp all way up and 7 in set back. could had went up more , 64 65 is where mi e was bad , I could push it fast to 70 but had get out pretty quick. jmo. Hope u do figure it out

patchesII
04-06-2019, 01:15 PM
You’re gonna have to learn how to drive through the chinewalk. Small, correctly timed steering corrections

Merc 2.5
09-02-2019, 04:58 PM
I took JP down from almost 14in.to 9in and went testing 3in below pad at around 64 it started venalating or chine walking. Floor it can’t get flat out got to get out pretty immediately. Going to raise motor more to see if I have too much load on pad. Got a question if I make my concave pad flat will it help porpoiseing. I know it will slap waves more and not corner as good,don’t think it would make it much more fun to have to drive it! Oh drives like dream at neutral trim. I also added bob’s tru tracker hydrofoil.

Well just curious how ur tournaments and boat was goin?

KIRCHNER
09-05-2019, 04:27 PM
So I thought I was bad , was runnin a modded 200 on a 15ft , to b perfectly honest, I think u could use any of the 3 motors and still not reach ur goal, I think bote gonna b way to hard to handle , mine was very stupid over 65 , mite wanna try less set back for short bote? , the 150 will do fine , the 200 will get there quicker but not real sure u can make it much faster on top unless u can really control it , maybe ur hull is diff enough it will handle it but if it does , I think 80 would damn near kill u. But they r really really fun to drive up to that point

I took mota off pit on 18.5 and runs around ur goal so far without much setup time,
my build sheet says 750 lbs, 15' 9'' mag=cat, i run a 225 pmax. 80gps feels stable to me, i dont know about my wing man. LOL.

Merc 2.5
09-05-2019, 05:15 PM
my build sheet says 750 lbs, 15' 9'' mag=cat, i run a 225 pmax. 80gps feels stable to me, i dont know about my wing man. LOL.

Well my little old bote I had was 750 but it was like a semi tri or sumthin , just wasnt designed for nething like that. Max hp was 100 his case may b diff.
Mine actually measured 14.9. little shy 15ft

Will hedrick
09-05-2019, 05:53 PM
How s your year been merc, I just got my boat out back together?

Merc 2.5
09-05-2019, 06:03 PM
How s your year been merc, I just got my boat out back together?

O mine been good , motor runnin great , fishin been decent but not great , I had a couple weeks were I chased a demon n motor but all is good , actually trying catch a fish now , stopped for a break

Will hedrick
09-05-2019, 08:29 PM
O mine been good , motor runnin great , fishin been decent but not great , I had a couple weeks were I chased a demon n motor but all is good , actually trying catch a fish now , stopped for a break

Always does, fishing picking back up fir me on the south end of ky lake next one is Sunday, coming out of mason's

90 5.0
11-09-2019, 08:59 PM
Youll have your hands full in a Skeeter Wrangler at 90. One issue I see is youre running aconed gearcase 3 below the bottom. Engine needs to come up a lot

My dad had a wrangler 150 with a 2.4 225 when I was a kid , I dont have a whole lot of memories of it besides falling out of the boat on Henderson.

Just remember my dad mainly talking about how bad it drove at high speeds, so he sold it and got a venture after that.

I wouldnt try it.

I took JP down from almost 14in.to 9in and went testing 3in below pad at around 64 it started venalating or chine walking. Floor it cant get flat out got to get out pretty immediately. Going to raise motor more to see if I have too much load on pad. Got a question if I make my concave pad flat will it help porpoiseing. I know it will slap waves more and not corner as good,dont think it would make it much more fun to have to drive it! Oh drives like dream at neutral trim. I also added bobs tru tracker hydrofoil.

at 3 below pad its going to be dragging the nose cone and wont drive good be careful Im guessing you need to be 1/4 above at least.

But come up with it slowly and see how it does. My starfire likes 2.5 below with a standard case and 1 1/4 above with a coned cle.

But a starfire skeeter is a way different hull than a wrangler.

inspectorlance
02-28-2021, 10:44 AM
How is it going with the 225 on the wrangler ? I have a 16’ Wrangler with no motor and a 88’ omc 225 sitting in the barn. Thinking of putting her together.
what setup and speed to you end up with ?