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Bumblebeeman
10-10-2018, 08:40 PM
I have one of the old 2.4 liter XR4 150 hp bass boat motors, mine is a 1991. I hit a limestone ledge and ruined my small diameter 1.78 ratio gear case. I bought supposedly a 1.87 gear ratio case off Ebay. But it is so slow I think it may be a 2.00 ratio, like they used on the 135 Opti.

With my 1.78 gearcase and a 24 inch Laser II I got 68.7 mph GPS at 5700 rpm on my Bumble Bee 178 FD.

With the used gearcase I bought off Ebay and the exact same propeller I get 58 mph GPS at the same 5700 rpm.

The numbers don't work out to it being a 1.87 gearcase, its too slow.

I looked all over the outside and can't find any identifying number. But is there a way to tell the gear ratio from the outside of the gearcase?

Thank you

rock
10-10-2018, 10:18 PM
Put lower in gear. Get a 15/16 socket on the flywheel and give the motor two full turns. If the prop turns 1 full revolution it is a 2/1. If it comes up short of a full turn it is a 1.87/1.

Rock

tlwjkw
10-11-2018, 06:03 AM
a 2 ta 1 is gonna be way slower than tha 1.78.... should pull a tad bit harder outta tha hole but will not top end same as 1.78 or 1.87.

its like comparin' 3.55 rear end gears ta 4.10's.....

rock
10-11-2018, 07:37 AM
My statement was incorrect. This happens sometimes when you get old. The propshaft will go just past a full turn with a 1.87/1 gear not come up short of a full turn. Thanks for the correction Chris.

Rock

gotboostedvr6
10-11-2018, 08:12 AM
That^

Merc 2.5
10-11-2018, 09:35 AM
I have one of the old 2.4 liter XR4 150 hp bass boat motors, mine is a 1991. I hit a limestone ledge and ruined my small diameter 1.78 ratio gear case. I bought supposedly a 1.87 gear ratio case off Ebay. But it is so slow I think it may be a 2.00 ratio, like they used on the 135 Opti.

With my 1.78 gearcase and a 24 inch Laser II I got 68.7 mph GPS at 5700 rpm on my Bumble Bee 178 FD.

With the used gearcase I bought off Ebay and the exact same propeller I get 58 mph GPS at the same 5700 rpm.

The numbers don't work out to it being a 1.87 gearcase, its too slow.

I looked all over the outside and can't find any identifying number. But is there a way to tell the gear ratio from the outside of the gearcase?

Thank you

Seems to me if you lost 10mph by goin to a lower gear wouldn't the rpm go up on top? With the same prop? Or is that on the limiter

Bumblebeeman
10-12-2018, 01:20 PM
Reply to Merc 2.5,

Yes the rpm went up. I quoted the same rpm I had with the 1.78 gear case in the speed comparison to keep things simple. But its the first time I ever saw over 6000 rpm on this engine. With the 1.78 case and a 24 inch Laser II the highest I would see is 5600 rpm summer and about 5850 winter. I have one of those little Tiny Tach digital mini tachometers and I think they are very accurate.

Merc 2.5
10-12-2018, 01:23 PM
Ok that sounds better. Yep u got a higher gear

FMP
10-12-2018, 02:34 PM
Lower

tlwjkw
10-12-2018, 02:38 PM
maybe he's sayin' "higher numerically"... :reddevil:

Merc 2.5
10-12-2018, 04:34 PM
maybe he's sayin' "higher numerically"... :reddevil:

Naw I just screwed up and had it backards. Forgot which 1 he had b4 he bought the 2.00. 1

tlwjkw
10-12-2018, 04:40 PM
dammit!.. I covered ya butt and ya gotta spoil it.... :p

FMP
10-12-2018, 05:09 PM
He must be saying higher amount of gear reduction:thumbsup:

Merc 2.5
10-12-2018, 05:11 PM
He must be saying higher amount of gear reduction:thumbsup:

Ya that's what I tryin say!!

FMP
10-12-2018, 05:17 PM
I just needed a higher amount of listing

Zoomba
10-12-2018, 06:04 PM
How fast is the boat at the new top rpm. Sometimes letting the engine spool to 6500-7000 will fre up some horespower. What is the WFO rpm?