Best 25" 225+'s for $10k.

[Instigator]

Shopping for motors for my 25' Checkmate I/O to O/B conversion and although I have a garage full of OMC looper parts/tools/knowledge but looking at everything.

For 10k I'm finding older motors that are perfect and newer ones w/one popped.
I would do either for the right deal.

Best I've found so far:

'06 250xs Mercs for $11k. Add says they need nothing but don't know hrs so assuming a ton.

'2000 Yammi ox66 250's for $10k, very clean, unknown hrs.

'14 250 e-tecs for $10k, no hrs or history, seller is flipping them.

Be interested in any recommendations from those w/more knowledge than me on the alternate brands.

PS, no 4 strokes.

Thx guys.

Gary

[Dave Strong]

I would go with the Merc but you know me I'm a Merc Guy. ;) Scan a Merc and will know the hours at least on the ECU. :D

Dave

[LOSTINJ]

as a guy who loves outboards on a cat or small vee , why on earth would you desire to go from simple bb that easily could push that boat 80 with 550 hp .
What are your expectations with two outboards hanging off bracket other than ugliness on that large boat and complicating life ?

[Instigator]

I would go with the Merc but you know me I'm a Merc Guy. ;) Scan a Merc and will know the hours at least on the ECU. :D

Dave

Yep on the hrs. My guess is, seller is trying so slide a high hr motor through w/o anyone knowing.

To lost in nj, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. W/the I/O you have next to no storage in that boat.
Converted to O/B's, the lounge will now store our 2 folding bicycles, inflatable dinghy, beach chairs and table, grill, etc, etc.
We get on the boat Friday and dont get off until Sunday. Usually staying at anchor and dinghying in.

Try that w/an I/O in the same boat.
As far as performance expectations, I expect it to run similar and be way more fun to drive.

PS, if you dont like the project, don't post.

And I dont think this one was ugly.

[Dave Strong]

Had to bite my tongue on the previous post. :rolleyes: Nice come back. ;)

Dave

[David]

Why can't they read the hours on the Etecs?

[Instigator]

They can.

Appears that seller bought them to flip and knows nothing of OB's.
I called him first thing this morning and have heard nothing back.



Why can't they read the hours on the Etecs?

[David]

The Etecs are by far the newest. If the hours are OK it would be my choice

[Instigator]

The guy w/the e-tecs called me back and I was right.
He is a wholesaler and doesnt even know if they run, let alone hrs!

[H2OPERF]

Only one motor color matches the boat so ... ur gonna have to up the budget..Dave

[Instigator]

I'm not rich like you ��

Id love to have two of those p.heads but still not feeling the "transformers" style.

Your comment on color brings up a good point though.

The older, carb' loopers make a great blank canvas for paint/graphics.

The ox66 era of Yammis are, I think gorgeous as is. But could still probably paint one to plan.

An xs Merc though......, not sure I could paint a pair of them ��
Maybe just change color of graphics.



Only one motor color matches the boat so ... ur gonna have to up the budget..Dave

[baja200merk]

Go look at the Etecs with a computer, oil fuel, battery and key switch. They run fine laying on their side or on a crate ;)

[Instigator]

Go look at the Etecs with a computer, oil fuel, battery and key switch. They run fine laying on their side or on a crate ;)
Already sold.
'14's @ $10k......., if I had been local, I'd have been there.
They were in Jacksonville and almost hired Spanky for an inspection.

[baja200merk]

Either insurance or he got them from Jacksonville police. I’ve got a few from their auction cheap. Usually high hours and salty.

[baja200merk]

These have been for sale a while. Take a week and freshen both of them up.you could have two fresh Powerheads and still be under budget. It’s very easy to load a 225HO OR 250hp map.

https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/bpo/d/tec-2006-pair-6900/6448819760.html

[99fxst99]

as a guy who loves outboards on a cat or small vee , why on earth would you desire to go from simple bb that easily could push that boat 80 with 550 hp .
What are your expectations with two outboards hanging off bracket other than ugliness on that large boat and complicating life ?

Expectations are it's what the **** he wants to do. I did the same project years ago with GREAT results. And had a great time doing it. Ended up with a head turner, not just another single engine boat with a truck motor in it.
Attached are some pictures of my Seebold 25 from a photo shoot done for a Trailer Boats magazine article. Went from a 55mph sterndrive to a 76mph outboard with stock 25" 2.4L 200s. And, yes, had LOTS of storage where the truck motor used to ride.

[Instigator]

Now that's funny **** right there!
And thx!
Ive done this long enough that I basically listen to everybody but do my own thing anyhow.
Guessing that is local friend of previous owner and both are car moter guys.

Gorgrous boat too.
Did you see Nicks for sale in Fla last yr? Came within a nats eye lash of buying it.
Was actually one of I think three from the factory as OB.
Always liked those boats.Nick had 250 xs's on it and ran 90!

Kevin, seller said "fire dept from n Fla", wouldn't tell me who.
He pissed them off after tracking them down trying to find out what he just bought ��

Been watching that orher pair.
Time is on my side.
May need another lesson e-tec versions.

Have a lead on a popped '08 250 HO but is 20".
Owner says 3.4 liter but I didn't know they were out that long ago??



Expectations are it's what the **** he wants to do. I did the same project years ago with GREAT results. And had a great time doing it. Ended up with a head turner, not just another single engine boat with a truck motor in it.
Attached are some pictures of my Seebold 25 from a photo shoot done for a Trailer Boats magazine article. Went from a 55mph sterndrive to a 76mph outboard with stock 25" 2.4L 200s. And, yes, had LOTS of storage where the truck motor used to ride.

[SCT]

Here you go Gator, they are to heavy for the project but.....right down your alley! Maybe the guy will throw a tanker full of fuel in on the deal.......

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/bpo/d/outboard-motors-johnson/6437960932.html

[AZMIDLYF]

Heck, these are in the classified section right here...;)
http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?318652-FS-Pair-of-Monty-Racing-V8-s-25-quot-offshore-mids-w-CLE-lowers

[Instigator]

Im going to have to install a larger fuel tank just to feed two V-6;s, let alone two V-8's.

Shannon, I like yours.

AZ, I looked at those too but same problem as above and dont like the gear cases.

[baja200merk]

They were out but if you need a crank (you probably will) One crank will cost more then All the parts required to build a pair of 3.3 Powerheads. :eek:


The weight difference between v8 and Etecs would not be noticeable on that boat.

[Instigator]

Weights are the same.

Fuel consumption, not so much.



The weight difference between v8 and Etecs would not be noticeable on that boat.

[Instigator]

Back on the market.

E-tecs were full of water.

[H2OPERF]

What... they were sunk and they thought they were worth that much, were they from the storm.

[Instigator]

What... they were sunk and they thought they were worth that much, were they from the storm.
No, it's how they were stored.

on their shipping pallets w/the lowers blocked up to horizontal, prop hubs/exhaust facing up, uncovered, outside for 2 months.
filled w/rain water.
motors locked to hard port, #s 4 and 6 and pumped water out the plug holes.

Bud called after seeing that on first motor, other two stored same way and I pulled the plug.

He said being fresh water they may run forever after flushing.

Told him he was right but no thanks.

Too bad man, I was geeked!

Maybe back to Paul's motors. 150 lbs lighter, way simpler and cheaper, w/no surprises/gambling.

We'll see. I told Bud to keep his eyes open.

Time is on my side.

[baja200merk]

Big bummer.... if they were 3.3 you could put two pristine 93+ 3.0 cranks in them from that fresh water your now spoiled with.

[davemvegas]

Scott owner of Americat boats in north ft pierce called me a few weeks ago. He had a pair of merc 250 verados for sale. I think he was asking 12,000 for the pair. His number is 359--3641.

[baja200merk]

They could be 350 verados with a tune :eek:

[Capt.Insane-o]

dunno why you would ever consider any salt water garbage. we've got it made up here, just need to keep peeking in corners.

[Instigator]

Scott owner of Americat boats in north ft pierce called me a few weeks ago. He had a pair of merc 250 verados for sale. I think he was asking 12,000 for the pair. His number is 359--3641.
Thanks Dave but too heavy.
And, I only do 2 stroke.

The ones I tried to buy were right by you at Billfish Boats in Ft Pierce.

[Instigator]

dunno why you would ever consider any salt water garbage. we've got it made up here, just need to keep peeking in corners.
Agreed but, these checked all the box's.
Stored on a lift, flushed everytime, new p.heads in 13/14, dealer maintained w/an open ck book.

Theyre at the builder of the owners boat. They removed them to repower w/Verados and they ruined them by how they stored them. I had a KILLER deal going.

Problem in our area is finding a pair and/or 25" motors.

By me, all the bigger motors are 20" bassers.
Around Lake Erie there are 25's but singles.

Larger center consoles became popular up there 10 yrs ago but almost all are 4 Stroke Yammis.

[SCT]

"Problem in our area is finding a pair and/or 25" motors.

By me, all the bigger motors are 20" bassers.
Around Lake Erie there are 25's but singles."

Gator, you sure you need 25" motors? I ran 20" motors on my 30' CM w- no problems. But I did have sportmasters and a ton of setback.

Cheers-

[Instigator]

"Problem in our area is finding a pair and/or 25" motors.

By me, all the bigger motors are 20" bassers.
Around Lake Erie there are 25's but singles."

Gator, you sure you need 25" motors? I ran 20" motors on my 30' CM w- no problems. But I did have sportmasters and a ton of setback.

Cheers-


Shannon I could do either but prefer 25's for a couple of reasons.

My first Sonic came w/20's and I repowered w/25's and never looked back.

W/an integral platform and 20's, the platform would be right at the water line and under w/anyone on it.

I also like my powerheads up in the air on display so all the I/O guys know what it is.
W/the boat at dock, and 20's on it, you have to get close to the boat to see its an O/B.

W/25's you can tell from the tiki bar, and know it has attitude ;)

[Chaz]

Afternoon G ... :smiletest:

Hey , I know where there are a really nice pair of MERCURY .... :leaving:

Just kiddin , I needed a good laugh :D before headin back to the salt mine ... :o :thumbsup:

[Instigator]

Afternoon G ... :smiletest:

Hey , I know where there are a really nice pair of MERCURY .... :leaving:

Just kiddin , I needed a good laugh :D before headin back to the salt mine ... :o :thumbsup:

You funny ;)

Acccccttttuuuuuaaaallllly, I was really liking (most of) what I saw of the XS's until some of my Merc owning friends talked me out of them :)

[Chaz]

I don't follow it , only because I don't have the room for any more treasure. :nonod: :D
But I saw over on the bullet where they were filling Royal Purple ( Houston ) Raceway after Harvey . Homestead / Miami after Irma etc .
A lot of it gets bought by weight , crushed and recycled . Where you and I would go , Ohh - ohh look at that brand new harness ... they look at it as a half a pound of copper .. ( If the brand new ones even use copper any more ) :(

My dad thought all of this was foolish . cars , boats , motorcycles . He stood in line as a kid during the crash of 1929 , so I understand . But when he bought something , he always bought everything new .

My kid and my daughter in law just bought a brand new soccer mom Honda mini van . I didn't ask how much they paid for it , or how much a month or any of that stuff .
I thought to myself , they could have kept what they had , painted it , new rubber , hoses ,belts ... got a pick up I showed him , plunked a FREE 5.3 LS in it from a guy he's known his whole life , and they would both been riding . But instead I said ... That's really nice son . Which it is , it's just not me .

At our age , we should be of the mind set where we just walk into the dealer and buy two new ones and enjoy them with whatever time we have left on this earth . No matter how "brand loyal" any of us are , they have all priced themselves to the point where many say " The only motor I would ever run is a ... How much you want for that POS ? "
I even hear that if you drop the boat off , they will bolt the motor's on for ya .. :D
Since none of the above would be applicable , Kevin is right . Buy up a half a dozen clunkers out of Mi-hami on the cheap . Sift thru the pile like the junk yard dogs we are ... :p Paint + Freshen + Machine em up better than new look's and tolerances . Plenty peeps here that will be behind your every move .. :thumbsup:

[Capt.Insane-o]

I don't follow it , only because I don't have the room for any more treasure. :nonod: :D
But I saw over on the bullet where they were filling Royal Purple ( Houston ) Raceway after Harvey . Homestead / Miami after Irma etc .
A lot of it gets bought by weight , crushed and recycled . Where you and I would go , Ohh - ohh look at that brand new harness ... they look at it as a half a pound of copper .. ( If the brand new ones even use copper any more ) :(

My dad thought all of this was foolish . cars , boats , motorcycles . He stood in line as a kid during the crash of 1929 , so I understand . But when he bought something , he always bought everything new .

My kid and my daughter in law just bought a brand new soccer mom Honda mini van . I didn't ask how much they paid for it , or how much a month or any of that stuff .
I thought to myself , they could have kept what they had , painted it , new rubber , hoses ,belts ... got a pick up I showed him , plunked a FREE 5.3 LS in it from a guy he's known his whole life , and they would both been riding . But instead I said ... That's really nice son . Which it is , it's just not me .

At our age , we should be of the mind set where we just walk into the dealer and buy two new ones and enjoy them with whatever time we have left on this earth . No matter how "brand loyal" any of us are , they have all priced themselves to the point where many say " The only motor I would ever run is a ... How much you want for that POS ? "
I even hear that if you drop the boat off , they will bolt the motor's on for ya .. :D
Since none of the above would be applicable , Kevin is right . Buy up a half a dozen clunkers out of Mi-hami on the cheap . Sift thru the pile like the junk yard dogs we are ... :p Paint + Freshen + Machine em up better than new look's and tolerances . Plenty peeps here that will be behind your every move .. :thumbsup:


I'd keep an eye on municipality auctions up here, dnr, fire,police,ice,boarder patrol etc. F*** saltwater. Customer got a pair of 2008 250s out of Wisconsin for 8500.

[Instigator]

Chaz, agreed.
I was buying complete, donor V-6 loopers off a scrap pile by you for .30c a lb.

Insaneo, I do.

Im on a pair of '2011 250's from an individual for $13k.
Orig owner, all paperwork.

[Markus]

My kid and my daughter in law just bought a brand new soccer mom Honda mini van . I didn't ask how much they paid for it , or how much a month or any of that stuff .
I thought to myself , they could have kept what they had , painted it , new rubber , hoses ,belts ... got a pick up I showed him , plunked a FREE 5.3 LS in it from a guy he's known his whole life , and they would both been riding

Uhhm. Not sure that is a relevant comparison to a 500 hp lake boat...

I think Gary's case is more like "A boring Honda minivan will cost me $50,000. For that kind of money, I can get two used AMG Mercs."

[Dave S]

Stop whinnning and buy the V8s

[Chaz]

[/LEFT]

Uhhm. Not sure that is a relevant comparison to a 500 hp lake boat...

I think Gary's case is more like "A boring Honda minivan will cost me $50,000. For that kind of money, I can get two used AMG Mercs."

Well Marcus , I'll try to explain it to ya .. :)

Lets say Gary and the Mrs. had a kid and had no idea how the kid got there . It would be a pretty good bet that the time would come that they would need those two used AMG Mercs .. maybe even a bus or two . See , it's a capacity thing . In my sons case , two licensed drivers , one vehicle ... förstå

Yeapp .. they gotz a couple little lakes they run around on up there .. :eek:

So lets look @ the options so far :

A pair of 7 year old motors for $13,000.00 I don't know if they gotz another 100,000,000 miles left on their wty .. or if that was over 2 mango seasons ago . Them things might go another 7 years with no issues .. or the injectors and flywheels might start poppin parts loose tomorrow . Buyin used and 3K American over planned budget ..... capisci'

A pair of Loopers that the Capt want to have *** well never mind .. :p
( He's right though , people send me stuff that's only a few years old that you'd swear was from WW1 )
And I have a guy in Kentucky that I trade mid section parts for labor . I don't even open the box till I need what I know is in there . Always pristine stuff from him .

Unless it's total junk or people just want it out of their yard ... 500 lbs / .30c $150.00 x 2 = $300.00 for lowers , mids , clamps , cowls , harnesses , block's or at least one to work with .. Honestly .. if he got a lower unit from one and a clamp from another .. to me , he would be money ahead ... comprendre

So just as if the kid had kept the old soccer mom van (hers) and spent $2000.00 on it and a full weeks labor . Make it two weeks and 3K to make it nice and have a rental in the mean time .They would have had safe reliable transportation for her and according to your numbers ... $47,000.00 worth of payments to do something else with .
How does that relate to Gary's dilemma ?
I would imagine BRP made lots of them 250's in 25" Standard and So.Paw rotation. I still tend to agree with Kevin , buy one here , one there , three more for spares . Build two really good ones . A so-so back up out of second effort ...err .. (sorry couldn't help myself ) second pickings .. for just in case ... and put the $1000 - $2000 left over in the vacation fund ... But I see by looking at your hat , your a baller like my kid , I could never expect you to ...... 理解します。

[Instigator]

Stop whinnning and buy the V8s
Bla ha ha!

Trust me, I've considered it.

Just not feeling it though. Here's where my head is.

Owned two twin O/B 24' Sonics.

Sonic A:

Two hot rod V-6 loopers. Good heads, big carbs, velocity stacks, open exhaust and wing plates/tie bars.
That boat spent most of its life on Lake Erie so we had trips of 30+ mls each way. Listening to two of those motors drone on...., is have to stop to hear the ship to shore when cruising w/another boat.
Couldnt listen to stereo, carry on conversation w/passenger etc.

Sonic B:

Identical set up and power but stock motors.
I also put wind deflectors on windshield of that boat.

They were both fun to drive fast but, at 45 - 50 the hull frees up and the motors are just singing!
Turn on some boat music, interact/enjoy your company, point out things of interest, relax, drive w/one hand as you watch the ramp disappear behind you as you search for and finally see your destination appear on the horizon.
In my world......, it just don't get much better than that.

Also to weight. I am very concerned w/adding 150+ lbs to a hull 6" narrower to the Sonics even though the V/6 E-techs are nearly same weight but physically smaller and shorter.

[Instigator]

Well Marcus , I'll try to explain it to ya .. :)

Lets say Gary and the Mrs. had a kid and had no idea how the kid got there . It would be a pretty good bet that the time would come that they would need those two used AMG Mercs .. maybe even a bus or two . See , it's a capacity thing . In my sons case , two licensed drivers , one vehicle ... förstå

Yeapp .. they gotz a couple little lakes they run around on up there .. :eek:

So lets look @ the options so far :

A pair of 7 year old motors for $13,000.00 I don't know if they gotz another 100,000,000 miles left on their wty .. or if that was over 2 mango seasons ago . Them things might go another 7 years with no issues .. or the injectors and flywheels might start poppin parts loose tomorrow . Buyin used and 3K American over planned budget ..... capisci'

A pair of Loopers that the Capt want to have *** well never mind .. :p
( He's right though , people send me stuff that's only a few years old that you'd swear was from WW1 )
And I have a guy in Kentucky that I trade mid section parts for labor . I don't even open the box till I need what I know is in there . Always pristine stuff from him .

Unless it's total junk or people just want it out of their yard ... 500 lbs / .30c $150.00 x 2 = $300.00 for lowers , mids , clamps , cowls , harnesses , block's or at least one to work with .. Honestly .. if he got a lower unit from one and a clamp from another .. to me , he would be money ahead ... comprendre

So just as if the kid had kept the old soccer mom van (hers) and spent $2000.00 on it and a full weeks labor . Make it two weeks and 3K to make it nice and have a rental in the mean time .They would have had safe reliable transportation for her and according to your numbers ... $47,000.00 worth of payments to do something else with .
How does that relate to Gary's dilemma ?
I would imagine BRP made lots of them 250's in 25" Standard and So.Paw rotation. I still tend to agree with Kevin , buy one here , one there , three more for spares . Build two really good ones . A so-so back up out of second effort ...err .. (sorry couldn't help myself ) second pickings .. for just in case ... and put the $1000 - $2000 left over in the vacation fund ... But I see by looking at your hat , your a baller like my kid , I could never expect you to ...... 理解します。

Read this twice and my head hurts��

Marcus, the only way I trust my junk, to drive it the way I like, questionable conditions, to locations such as across Lake Erie, into Canada very expensive and time consuming to get home from if problems surface, and responsible for those aboard ( HUGE responsibility in this type boating), is w/new (can't afford and don't want) or motors I built.

Like Chaz, I too like Kevin's theory.
My issues w/that are:

I did that w/the Sonic in Fla and it just about broke me and I don't mean financially.
Granted, I built those motors from spare parts so what did I expect?
But I also did a complete restoration on the hull at the same time. It was outside in the Fla heat.... , but took 2 yrs before I trusted that boat.

Currently my plan is, two running E-tecs, as big and new as I can find/afford to get me on the water faster. The I/O to O/B conversion will be a fairly intense project on its own so don't want to build two motors too.
Now anyhow.

Then build a spare drop on powerhead for backup.

Realistically, the way I like to run that style boat, I'll end up going through both motors during an off season and applying all tricks I can learn in mean time.

Anyone w/better ideas, please send your contributions to:

Onebrokedickboater

#1 Fantasy lane
lala land, US of A!

[Markus]

Yeapp .. they gotz a couple little lakes they run around on up there .. :eek:


They do. But it is not like they have to. That's why we are talking toys here. So it comes to how you spend your toy budget.

A Honda minivan is too boring to meet the toy threshold. A Mercedes-AMG is not.



But I see by looking at your hat , your a baller like my kid , I could never expect you to ...... 理解します。

Charlie, I have not bought a new car in my entire life, and I may never do.

You see, when you are 16 hours of air travel from Diamond Marine, and want to keep a 2.5 260 running, you have to learn how to diagnose and fix your stuff. Mechanics, electronics, you name it.

Compared to a used car, a new car is a very expensive way to reduce the risk of having to diagnose and repair the car. I would rather spend the money on a more fun car.

The closest I have been to owning a Honda minivan is borrowing the neighbor's Honda lawnmower when the pull cord broke on the mower I put together from a $50 used mower and a free mower from the garbage dump.

[hondatech]

Sensei Chaz you crack me up ....comprende !:iagree:

[hondatech]

They do. But it is not like they have to. That's why we are talking toys here. So it comes to how you spend your toy budget.

A Honda minivan is too boring to meet the toy threshold. A Mercedes-AMG is not.



Charlie, I have not bought a new car in my entire life, and I may never do.

You see, when you are 16 hours of air travel from Diamond Marine, and want to keep a 2.5 260 running, you have to learn how to diagnose and fix your stuff. Mechanics, electronics, you name it.

Compared to a used car, a new car is a very expensive way to reduce the risk of having to diagnose and repair the car. I would rather spend the money on a more fun car.

The closest I have been to owning a Honda minivan is borrowing the neighbor's Honda lawnmower when the pull cord broke on the mower I put together from a $50 used mower and a free mower from the garbage dump.

" Makus what the Heck".......No..ting wong wit Honda...I resemble that remak. LOL

[Markus]

" Makus what the Heck".......No..ting wong wit Honda...I resemble that remak. LOL

Honda mowers are some of the best.

Honda minivans probably are as well. But they are still minivans... :eek:

[Chaz]

They do. But it is not like they have to. That's why we are talking toys here. So it comes to how you spend your toy budget.

While I called it a little lake or two for them to run around on ... it would be much like me saying the same thing about you running around on the Baltic sea , having a motor go down and having a storm kick up ... :eek:

Wouldn't call it a toy then ... :nonod:


You see, when you are 16 hours of air travel from Diamond Marine

We fly over Ft. Lauderdale @ least once a month . I didn't know they have a air field @ Diamond marine ... :D :D :D


The closest I have been to owning a Honda minivan is borrowing the neighbor's Honda lawnmower when the pull cord broke on the mower I put together from a $50 used mower and a free mower from the garbage dump.

Du gjorde Honda tech arg nu :iagree:








Gary .put a pair of 4-poke 250 Honda's on the new boat , brother .. :eek: :D :leaving:

[Capt.Insane-o]

While I called it a little lake or two for them to run around on ... it would be much like me saying the same thing about you running around on the Baltic sea , having a motor go down and having a storm kick up ... :eek:

Wouldn't call it a toy then ... :nonod:



We fly over Ft. Lauderdale @ least once a month . I didn't know they have a air field @ Diamond marine ... :D :D :D



Du gjorde Honda tech arg nu :iagree:








Gary .put a pair of 4-poke 250 Honda's on the new boat , brother .. :eek: :D :leaving:

Gary wants to get on plane before he pulls into put in Bay harbor

[hondatech]

Thanks Chaz
Gary, he has 2 300X's not XS
The price on the 192 hr 300x lh complete is $7500 US. If you just want the power head it’s $6500 US. The cowling are sanded and need to be repainted**and new decals applied.**Thanks. Lester.**902- 225-9753.**Hanley Marine
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[Markus]

While I called it a little lake or two for them to run around on ... it would be much like me saying the same thing about you running around on the Baltic sea , having a motor go down and having a storm kick up ... :eek:

Wouldn't call it a toy then ... :nonod:


Charlie, I know they have some rather sizable lakes up there. I went for a rather miserable run along one of them back in November, and I spent a lot of time in a city located on another one about 10 years ago.

I am sure they have plenty of roads that could be used for drag racing, too. That doesn't mean you have to have a dragster.

You could spend your spare time boating, drag racing or flying drones.

It all comes from the toy budget.



We fly over Ft. Lauderdale @ least once a month . I didn't know they have a air field @ Diamond marine ... :D :D :D


You are right. The 20 minutes for taking an Uber from Ft Lauderdale-Hollywood airport to Diamond Marine should be added to the estimate.





Du gjorde Honda tech arg nu :iagree:

Gary .put a pair of 4-poke 250 Honda's on the new boat , brother .. :eek: :D :leaving:

As always, your ability to think differently is the source of your genius. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Instigator]

Charlie, missed the part about the Hondas ;)
I remember having my old Sonic at Erie one time when the Hondas had just become the second coming.
Was at dock putzing w/the 250 OMC's on the boat when a neighboring docker (sailor) commented that he figured I was wishing I had a new pair of those Hondas on my boat.

I replied when they got them to within a 150 lbs (each) of my motors and to run within 10 MPH's of them I might be interested :cool:
Like current politics, he only knew what they told him.


On the motor hunt, my mind has changed again :rolleyes:

Now looking at what I can buy in Fla (will be down w/an empty trailer, soon) in way of late '90's V-6 loopers. Complete/running and otherwise.
W/the prices of used DI motors now coming down, its also dropping values of the old school (still perfectly good) carb'd motors.

Looking like for 1/2 my $10k e-tec budget I can buy a pair of complete, running V-6 loopers w/harness, oil tanks etc.
A bonus to this route would be a future 3.3 project for that boat.
I already have one that just needs a set of Monty Pistons.

Build one more and I could have the 300+ HP motors that I want, w/o being RPM limited like with DI motors.

[David]

CAS marine, not far from Toronto, had two 2000 225 Optis, 25" for $10K Cdn

[Instigator]

CAS marine, not far from Toronto, had two 2000 225 Optis, 25" for $10K Cdn
$7900 US. Not bad.

Unless I stumbled on a killer deal on 250's + though, I've ruled out the Optis.
Thanks though.

Looking like E-tecs or carbed loopers.

[Capt.Insane-o]

You don't want pre 06 optis, and sure as hell not 2000's.

[baja200merk]

Don’t buy any relics. Offer that guy 5k for the twin 225s send me the Emms I’ll put 250 maps in them. I’m working on building a 3.3 that will run the race map then u can port them a bit and put tight heads on and it will dust your ported carb motors and turn 7500 ;).

[Instigator]

Don’t buy any relics. Offer that guy 5k for the twin 225s send me the Emms I’ll put 250 maps in them. I’m working on building a 3.3 that will run the race map then u can port them a bit and put tight heads on and it will dust your ported carb motors and turn 7500 ;).

Ur killin me!

Just talked to him ;)

[Chaz]

As always, your ability to think differently is the source of your genius. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Markus , With tact and grace ... that was the most clever way I have ever been told I was full of **** ... :D:D:D Well at least one of them .. :p :thumbsup:

Gary .. Sounds like Kev's been doin his homework ... ;)

[Instigator]

Guy w/the 225's is a squirrel.

Very protective of where motors are, came of a boat he bought.
No knowledge of history of motors. Says he has motor print outs but when I called him back to tell him my buddy (MiamiDave) works st same airport that he hinted motors were at, he never called me back.

Dave guessed they came off a Keys/hurricane boat and I'd bet heavy he's correct.

So once again I'm back at thinking decent e-tecs are beyond my self imposed budget.
Which I expected from day one.

Good news is, Paul and I are now on the same page on his carbed 250 loopers.