View Full Version : Warning to all outboard skaters near Nashville-
JPEROG
12-21-2017, 09:06 AM
There is a new sheriff in town and he will be coming to a lake near you--Eddie picked up his new DW 28 yesterday.395157395158395169395167395159395160
JPEROG
12-21-2017, 09:31 AM
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NICE PAIR
12-21-2017, 09:39 AM
That's just plain "SEXY" :thumbsup:
Ok will expect a ride if in my area
Esox4130
12-21-2017, 09:54 AM
Killer ride
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Will the boat make it to any Florida Poker Runs?
Would be a great meet and greet for prospects
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AZMIDLYF
12-21-2017, 10:15 AM
Beautiful piece for sure. :cheers:
JPEROG
12-21-2017, 10:18 AM
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Will the boat make it to any Florida Poker Runs?
Would be a great meet and greet for prospects
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Eddie will have this one rigged soon. Paul's will be completed after paint at DHD so my guess is that we will have two of them at the spring Suwanee run for show/tell/rides and ego bruisinghttp://www.screamandfly.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif.
Joe
XstreamVking
12-21-2017, 10:24 AM
Nice and simple. No gaudy zig zag stripes going every which way. Edit: After looking at the pics better those headrest pieces are really crooked and pinched. Not what I would expect on a boat of that caliber.
davemvegas
12-21-2017, 11:25 AM
Looks fast. But i think a stv euro may have more interior space. I guess you can put your friends and your drinks in a inflatable and tow them along to the hang out spot. Out run everybody. Hook the rope back to the inflatable and head back to the ramp.
JPEROG
12-21-2017, 06:16 PM
I am just a little guy and if I need room for a floating patio and 10 friends then I will take the deck boat that is rated for 16 people, has a refrigerator and grill. Besides that most of my friends have their own boats to run or will use one of mine. This one is made to run, handle and give the occupants a place to sit that keeps the weight in the center and over the desired C.G. Boats are like motorcycles and cars they all have their purpose you just need to own a few of each if you want to cover all the bases.
Joe
Double Rigged
12-21-2017, 07:28 PM
Nice and simple. No gaudy zig zag stripes going every which way. Edit: After looking at the pics better those headrest pieces are really crooked and pinched. Not what I would expect on a boat of that caliber.
I think they are temporary covers for transport. I thought the same first time for a minute I saw them also.
Double Rigged
12-21-2017, 07:33 PM
Nice boat. Congrats to the new owner. As far as a new sheriff in town who knows. In real world and some rough water I am sure the 28’ Skater will more than hold its own. Glad to see you are selling some boats Joe and wish them luck.
RADER
12-21-2017, 08:24 PM
That's a bad ass piece. Good luck with her.
RIVERRUMMER 70
12-21-2017, 08:41 PM
I think they are temporary covers for transport. I thought the same first time for a minute I saw them also.
how do they stay on at 75 mph? sun shields or for keeping your buddys nasty cheetos fingers off while getting in ? or protect from cover chaffing.
good ideer..............ohhh yeah boats ok too! lol
JPEROG
12-21-2017, 08:47 PM
how do they stay on at 75 mph? sun shields or for keeping your buddys nasty cheetos fingers off while getting in ? or protect from cover chaffing.
good ideer..............ohhh yeah boats ok too! lol
The boat was shrink wrapped for transport. Willie made those covers for him for protection.
Joe
RIVERRUMMER 70
12-21-2017, 08:49 PM
The boat was shrink wrapped for transport. Willie made those covers for him for protection.
Joe
only took me three guesses :cheers:
JPEROG
12-21-2017, 09:01 PM
Nice boat. Congrats to the new owner. As far as a new sheriff in town who knows. In real world and some rough water I am sure the 28’ Skater will more than hold its own. Glad to see you are selling some boats Joe and wish them luck.
Nobody has had one in (true) rough water but I have spent a lot of time in a 24, 28, and 32 skaters running Lake Michigan. The fact is that if you are going to try and run hard in real water, inboards and 36 feet plus are the answer (weight is your friend and the boats stay hooked up). The reasons that I got so excited about these hulls when I saw it on Doug's design screen was that it was small enough to take on the rivers and lakes that we run all of the time, its fast, its modern, its a manageable size to trailer and I could afford it. I am going to need to have you help me with a new garmin 360 cam so that it can be documented soon-I have the next one coming out.
Joe
Zero Patience
12-21-2017, 09:13 PM
Pretty boat, very cool, please post rigging pics, Merry Christmas Joe.
Double Rigged
12-21-2017, 09:31 PM
Nobody has had one in (true) rough water but I have spent a lot of time in a 24, 28, and 32 skaters running Lake Michigan. The fact is that if you are going to try and run hard in real water, inboards and 36 feet plus are the answer (weight is your friend and the boats stay hooked up). The reasons that I got so excited about these hulls when I saw it on Doug's design screen was that it was small enough to take on the rivers and lakes that we run all of the time, its fast, its modern, its a manageable size to trailer and I could afford it. I am going to need to have you help me with a new garmin 360 cam so that it can be documented soon-I have the next one coming out.
Joe
No problem Joe. Be happy to help. I hear ya about inboards but for someone on a limited budget and not wanting all the maintenance and headaches I enjoy my O/B Skaters. With a good set up they are not too bad. We had the Mobil One boat dialed in back in the day. There was not a faster 28 Skater ever on the race course and it ran the kilos around 118mph with 2.5 carbureted motors. Look forward to seeing your when it is done.
JPEROG
12-21-2017, 09:42 PM
Pretty boat, very cool, please post rigging pics, Merry Christmas Joe.
Merry christmas to you Patty and the boys as well Jim. Hopefully Doug Herrell will have Paul's boat painted around the 3rd week of Jan. and he will start mounting the hardware so we can get it in the water and start refining the setup. Hows your project coming? looking forward to seeing it.
Joe
fastcat
12-21-2017, 11:43 PM
Thanks for the kind words. I'm Super Happy!!
We do plan on running the boat at alot of events this next year.
Hope to meet some of you at
Tickfaw,Cumberland,Nashville,loto shoot out,Jasper,Swanee,dale hollow,center hill,Kentucky lake.
Merry Christmas S&F
Zero Patience
12-22-2017, 05:53 AM
Merry christmas to you Patty and the boys as well Jim. Hopefully Doug Herrell will have Paul's boat painted around the 3rd week of Jan. and he will start mounting the hardware so we can get it in the water and start refining the setup. Hows your project coming? looking forward to seeing it.
Joe
We are getting close, mid January I get to drive to Michigan and pick it up. Hope for a window of good weather, to grab and go. It will still have a month at PPI, and our rigging time.
mikesufka
12-22-2017, 08:28 AM
Awesome Ride !!!!!!!!!!!!!
MDS
PS: I'd rather have a STV Euro ........... NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CaptainCraiger
12-22-2017, 08:50 AM
Where is Bob Lofleur nowadays? I remember Albert dialing in that Sundance Skater back in the day at the old Sundance Marine on Dixie Hwy.
Craig
Trimmed Out15
12-22-2017, 09:46 AM
Beautiful boat, best of luck. Hope you guys post the rigging and test as well.
WARLOCK
12-22-2017, 12:17 PM
The boat looks AWESOME! Later, Dave
RIVERRUMMER 70
12-22-2017, 05:33 PM
The boat looks AWESOME! Later, Dave
uh oh dave .......put down the bank book and step away from the computer....lol
i could see you in one of those, perfect for the river on sunday just have the tooner gassed up and parked in fox river grove beach.
done and done.:cheers:
wickedwitthestix
12-22-2017, 08:46 PM
There’s no words to describe that. But I’m not sure its beating a correctly rigged 28 skater in real world ocean stuff than I’ll b really impressed. It’s like the dw32. It’s faster than a 318 now but give Peter another year or 2 n it w at least b even.
Double Rigged
12-23-2017, 08:05 AM
Where is Bob Lofleur nowadays? I remember Albert dialing in that Sundance Skater back in the day at the old Sundance Marine on Dixie Hwy.
Craig
Hey Craig, Hope all is well is with you. He lives on Lake Norman in NC. I just rigged his new 28 this past summer.395301
Davidlake
12-23-2017, 09:03 AM
Hey Craig, Hope all is well is with you. He lives on Lake Norman in NC. I just rigged his new 28 this past summer.395301
You are up early today, Ron! Merry Christmas!
JPEROG
01-05-2018, 09:44 PM
Here are a couple pictures of the beautiful interior work (standard on the DW28) completed by Willy Sturgis. He will do whatever color combination that you desire and gives you a layout with each panel numbered so that you can pick what goes where. The carbon and custom dash, glove box, shifter box, etc are his creations as well.
Joe
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fastcat
01-06-2018, 11:17 AM
Willy Sturgis killed it on my interior! Nicest interior I've had! Truly a work of art!
home made tunnel
01-07-2018, 06:23 AM
Willy Sturgis knocked it out of the park !
mikej
01-10-2018, 01:18 PM
300XS or 400 Verado power? Good looking boat!
JPEROG
01-10-2018, 01:26 PM
300XS or 400 Verado power? Good looking boat!
XS motors are on the first 4, this one included. Its a lot of extra stuff going on for a 400 imo.-I talked Paul out of them (he had them already paid for). If 125 isn't fast enough for someone then put a set of X motors on it is my thinking.
Joe
Rayzor
01-10-2018, 04:06 PM
XS motors are on the first 4, this one included. Its a lot of extra stuff going on for a 400 imo.-I talked Paul out of them (he had them already paid for). If 125 isn't fast enough for someone then put a set of X motors on it is my thinking.
Joe
I completely agree Joe. Having ridden in Dan's 28, I would highly recommend against 400Rs on that boat. Not only does the boat perform great with 600hp, but it wouldn't like the size/weight of the 400Rs hanging off the transom. Also, everybody has to realize that the two stroke 300s out-accelerate the 400Rs anyways - and isn't that half the fun in a boat that size? :)
Double Rigged
01-10-2018, 04:15 PM
Yes they do!
JPEROG
01-10-2018, 05:57 PM
I completely agree Joe. Having ridden in Dan's 28, I would highly recommend against 400Rs on that boat. Not only does the boat perform great with 600hp, but it wouldn't like the size/weight of the 400Rs hanging off the transom. Also, everybody has to realize that the two stroke 300s out-accelerate the 400Rs anyways - and isn't that half the fun in a boat that size? :)
I think that 30 deserves 3x motors and you could really lay down the law on acceleration. There are two 2004s with zero hours on them only a phone call away and we could easily find a 3rd with low hours, convert them to 15" and look out....Accel is for sure what puts a grin on my face.
Joe
Rayzor
01-10-2018, 10:14 PM
Hahaha, that would defeat the purpose of what I'm doing to it Joe! It would get worse fuel economy than it did, and still not accelerate or mph as crazy as it did with the Sterlings in it. I will be very happy with my 30 when it's all dialed-in, I'm sure. I will make some videos of Dan and I running together when my 30 is finished. As for acceleration, that's what I have my STV and my hydro for - the Skater is for super-cruise!
JPEROG
01-10-2018, 10:20 PM
What the time frame on it at this point? Fuel is cheap in the big picture, inboard parts and labor are not. I forget that you have the missile to satisfy the true speed junkie within.
Joe
Rayzor
01-10-2018, 10:21 PM
Yes they do!
Hey Ron, my buddy Rick Bowling went for a ride in that DW360 back in Florida and said he couldn't believe how sluggish it was on acceleration. He said the boat was very nice, but you couldn't even feel it when the driver pushed the sticks forward. Nothing against the boat really, just that the combination of a 36' cat w/ 400Rs was less than impressive to say the least.
Rayzor
01-10-2018, 10:27 PM
What the time frame on it at this point? Fuel is cheap in the big picture, inboard parts and labor are not. I forget that you have the missile to satisfy the true speed junkie within.
Joe
The 30 goes in the paint booth next week Joe, and depending on when Merc releases the 2018 motors, I should have it by June. I honestly distance boat with my 30 (150-200 miles per outing), so I've always really not cared about the acceleration that much with it. And yes, my hydro takes care of any/all craziness within my empty skull - even if it's only a few times a year!
JPEROG
01-10-2018, 10:33 PM
I would be shaking for week after standing in that thing for 6 seconds. I think we are staying up North by you for the show. Looking forward to dinner one night at prime fish-
Rick is right, I spent a pretty good amount of time in that 36 with Myric and unless those motors are above 6500, they do nothing for me. The boat overall is pretty amazing but I would have 3 in a row to make it go.
Joe
Double Rigged
01-11-2018, 12:40 PM
The 30 goes in the paint booth next week Joe, and depending on when Merc releases the 2018 motors, I should have it by June. I honestly distance boat with my 30 (150-200 miles per outing), so I've always really not cared about the acceleration that much with it. And yes, my hydro takes care of any/all craziness within my empty skull - even if it's only a few times a year!
My buddy Jim who went for a ride said with a 5 people in FL the slowest waters in the country LOL it went 105mph max.
Rayzor
01-11-2018, 02:58 PM
My buddy Jim who went for a ride said with a 5 people in FL the slowest waters in the country LOL it went 105mph max.
I believe it Ron, Rick said it ran in the low to mid 100s when he was out in it with 4-5 guys as well. These lightweight bigger cats need to stay light to run good #s. Once they get weighed down with passengers and fuel, they're pigs. Hell, my 28 Skater that ran a best of 120 with just me and no fuel would always run 112-114 with 4 people and fuel in it. Merc needs to come out with at least a 500hp model before I'd have any interest in a 36' and up cat with outboards. It will happen in time, but I don't think we'll see it at Miami. My next (and last) Skater will be a 388 with a pair of big hp Mercs on the back - whatever the biggest hp motors they offer when I retire/relocate to San Diego (7-9 years from now).
Rayzor
01-11-2018, 03:03 PM
I would be shaking for week after standing in that thing for 6 seconds. I think we are staying up North by you for the show. Looking forward to dinner one night at prime fish-
Rick is right, I spent a pretty good amount of time in that 36 with Myric and unless those motors are above 6500, they do nothing for me. The boat overall is pretty amazing but I would have 3 in a row to make it go.
Joe
Definitely get ahold of me if you're around at the Miami show. We'll be there with some friends of ours, but it would be great to hook-up for dinner one night. I only plan to be at the performance show on Friday, and the rest of the trip at the in-water yacht show across the street from our hotel. And I agree that I wouldn't want a 36 with a pair of 400Rs, but I wouldn't want trips either. I'll be waiting for the next gen outboards from Mother Mercury for a bigger cat.
Krazymaan
01-11-2018, 11:07 PM
Very nice
tux974
01-12-2018, 05:52 AM
Cats are VERY weight sensitive and if they are built too light the ride will suffer drastically in the rough.
It comes down to the usual, give and take.
Dale, it sure sounds like your 30 will now be a nice easy lower maintenance turn key package.
Brad Zastrow
01-12-2018, 09:21 AM
My 36 accelerates very well with triple X motors.
Double Rigged
01-12-2018, 09:28 AM
I think that 30 deserves 3x motors and you could really lay down the law on acceleration. There are two 2004s with zero hours on them only a phone call away and we could easily find a 3rd with low hours, convert them to 15" and look out....Accel is for sure what puts a grin on my face.
Joe
Joe,
Are these BRAND NEW or rebuilt motors?
JPEROG
01-12-2018, 10:35 AM
Joe,
Are these BRAND NEW or rebuilt motors?
New old stock with zero hours on the clocks.
Joe
fastcat
01-12-2018, 03:34 PM
I completely agree Joe. Having ridden in Dan's 28, I would highly recommend against 400Rs on that boat. Not only does the boat perform great with 600hp, but it wouldn't like the size/weight of the 400Rs hanging off the transom. Also, everybody has to realize that the two stroke 300s out-accelerate the 400Rs anyways - and isn't that half the fun in a boat that size? :)
Hey Rayzor
Having ridden in Dan's 28.
Hows the acceleration and handling compare to the other 28s you have been in?
Thanks
conmax
01-12-2018, 10:07 PM
i am sure this hull runs very well with the 2 stroke power. after seeing the pics of the transom in this thread, i keep wondering if the function outweighs the look. is the benefit enough to justify the drawbacks in aesthetics and creature comfort? i guess that if the performance increase over the center pod tunnels is at least 5-10 mph and it turns better, planes better, cruises better, etc, than it might be worth it. since i don't think this short a cat is raced anymore, it has to be considered as a pleasure boat and has to have some distinct advantages over other, more people accommodating designs. i actually like this boat a lot, just not sure if it justifies some of the drawbacks.
Ospreyproduction
01-13-2018, 10:51 AM
GOOD GAWD!!!! What a good looking boat!
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