When I Grow Up I Wanna Be An Allison ...

[71V153]

Figgered it's time to start a thread:

16' Allison clone. 'Speedcraft' I'm told. Recently acquired from Ultrafast.

Don't reckon Don or I thought it was as soggy's it is, but que sera.

Progress so far:

[71V153]

In her earlier life:

[71V153]

Too bad the flake's shot. Musta been a purty boat at one time. She'll look better once I get a lil makeup on her.

[Bodhi]

A lil makeup and a boob job and she'll be ready to go

[CUDA]

In her earlier life:

Is this the same boat>
Chris Ray would pull two boats to the ODBA races, that's Trex and Ray bottom picture and Marty with Ray above.
Marty drove the tunnel in your picture.

Ray switched to a 1/4 Master and moved the drivers seat back a few feet ...

[Dave Strong]

Mike was not looking real happy in that pic, whats up with the Eagle One on the trailer? :eek:

Dave :)

[6Killer]

I used to have to add 40lbs to that boat to make 1050 for V4 comp.

Slowly it started to get heavier and required less weight.

It was really beat up when I bought it. I hope you do something cool with it.

Dave, Mike was never upset.

One time we kicked his cane out from under him in front of a girls Volly Ball team. This really tall Amazon, bent down and picked him up like he was a baby.
He was in luv!

Good times..............

[Dave Strong]

Lol

Dave

[71V153]

Preciate all the info guys. Thanks!

Yeah Dave I found some lead weights screwed in up under the bow.

Thanks for the pic Cuda, sure looks to be her.

I really dig the flake, but the bottom's just been done in an off white.

Made a cool discovery when stripping and sanding. Might do some kinda skeletonized stripe like so?

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Got her 99% gutted. Hope to be ready for glass by the end of the day tomorrow.

[71V153]

Lil more: Got her purty much cleaned up fwd of the knees. Thank God now I can put Big Bertha away ...

Lemme tell ya. You wanna make a mess? I got a tool for you ...

[71V153]

Motor's gonna be the 88 "extra" special. Pushes the lil Baja up to 66.7 til ya lose control. 6200 spinnin a 25 SRX with more motor left.

Any guesses as to how fast it might push this thing?

Anybody know about what these hulls weigh? Someone told me around 330 lbs?

Feels very light to me. (If I can pick it up it must be light ...)

[71V153]

Lil more done today:

If anybody has any story's about, or better yet pics of this boat. Please share.

Thanks!

[sharpeye Mike]

This is the specifications of 1983 models:
The R15 has an overall length of 15' 6" and weigh approx. 340 LBS and coast guard rating 60 HP
The R16 has an overall length of 16' 6" and weigh approx. 390 LBS and coast guard rating 75 HP

[71V153]

Said screw it and ripped out the stringers. Gonna put new ones back where they belong. stuck inside the strake. I figger that oughta stiffen her up a bit. Plus it'll give me enough room to fit a 9 gal tank sideways. Gonna extend em a lil farther fwd too.

Then I figured might as well do the knees while we're at it. Got em loose from the hull, now have to free em from the transom.

[Scream And Fly]

Is this the same boat>
Chris Ray would pull two boats to the ODBA races, that's Trex and Ray bottom picture and Marty with Ray above.
Marty drove the tunnel in your picture.

Ray switched to a 1/4 Master and moved the drivers seat back a few feet ...

I totally remember that dual-trailer setup! I always wondered what it would be like to tow that rig.
Very cool boat project there - keep us updated on your progress. That one looks like it will be fantastic.
Greg

[71V153]

Preciate the encouragement Greg. If you like the project figger I must be doin somethin right ...

Fairly sure this is the same boat Cuda pictured.

Oughta be alotta fun when I get it done. Stay tuned ...

[71V153]

Knees out. Lil more finish grindin/sanding to do but gettin purty close to reassembly. WooHoo!

[FoFittyFoSS]

I might have missed it... But did the transom check out O.K.?

[71V153]

did the transom check out O.K.?We did some tapping and poking around in there and it appears to be. No visible damage ...

It's not very thick. Barely 1 1/2". Thinkin I might beef it up inboard with a piece of material behind the new stringers and knees. Figure that should prevent any problems?

Got her almost all cleaned up:

[71V153]

Got the knees cut out, ready to laminate. Need to pick up some resin tomorrow.

Many thanks to Dago for the 3/8" Nidacore. Three 2 x 4 sheets and one with a tiny rectangle off of one corner. More than enough for the floor and to beef up the transom. Much appreciated Mike!!

Looks like I have plenty of biax and mat. WooHoo!

[71V153]

Pic of the bottom:

[phillnjack]

any updates on this restoration ?

[71V153]

any updates on this restoration ?

Sadly not. Was goin good til I wound up in the hospital again with this friggin diverticulitis.

The C500 is in my buddy's shop now. This boat is next.

Did scrounge up a running '79 flat back 115 w/good compression. Need to go through it and add my spare bubble butt exhaust, etc. That'll go on the Baja after we swap my 140 over to this one.

[phillnjack]

Oh sorry to hear you been in the hospital. hope everything goes ok for you.
will the bubble back exhaust make much difference to the motor ? I mean is this a very noticeable gain ?

I know the difference to look at, but never realy got into knowing exactly what is inside them.
My friend has a1977 Johnson 140 model ML77s that has the bubble back and the special tuner, I had the Johnson 85hp flat back.
also know its a pain to do the thermostats with the bubble in the way !!

[71V153]

Okay boy's girls. Project back in full swing for the past few weeks. Wound up doing the transom, and knees in one big gob of pourable goo. New stringers and floor in. Bout ready for primer:

[71V153]

I used to have to add 40lbs to that boat to make 1050 for V4 comp.

Slowly it started to get heavier and required less weight.

It was really beat up when I bought it. I hope you do something cool with it.

Dave, Mike was never upset.

One time we kicked his cane out from under him in front of a girls Volly Ball team. This really tall Amazon, bent down and picked him up like he was a baby.
He was in luv!

Good times..............


Don't spose anybody'd know where the title to this thing is? ...

[71V153]

Coat of 2K primer:

[Ted Stryker]

I had an 83' 16ft speedcraft, canary yellow.. put new stringers and full height knee braces in but the orig balsa core was unharmed at 15 yrs old.. It weighed around 370lbs (est 340-350 new) with a very solid running surface after the redo..Originally the boat belonged to Tommy & bobby sanders (Da Bull) had a 2.6 liter 235hp omc on alcohol, I put a warmed over 140 evinrude on it and later a 260 cut steel sleeve 2.5 merc.. boat was very quick and a breeze to drive..

Just don't over trim it, you won't go any faster and if ever it gets a lung full of air you're gonna have an interesting day.. I often miss that boat, to drive it felt like wearing it.. Very natural feel to those hills..

[talonkid]

I had an 83' 16ft speedcraft, canary yellow.. put new stringers and full height knee braces in but the orig balsa core was unharmed at 15 yrs old.. It weighed around 370lbs (est 340-350 new) with a very solid running surface after the redo..Originally the boat belonged to Tommy & bobby sanders (Da Bull) had a 2.6 liter 235hp omc on alcohol, I put a warmed over 140 evinrude on it and later a 260 cut steel sleeve 2.5 merc.. boat was very quick and a breeze to drive..

Just don't over trim it, you won't go any faster and if ever it gets a lung full of air you're gonna have an interesting day.. I often miss that boat, to drive it felt like wearing it.. Very natural feel to those hills..

Agreed on every aspect of that - super easy boat to drive once its set up properly - almost feels like its on rails. I had mine set up with a 12" 245 and it felt like it handled the same at 60 and at 100. I had mine weighed once it was done and with beefed up knees and a double stringer running down the center it came in at 374lbs with the seat and gas tank.

[Ted Stryker]

Sure nuff.. mine was weighed with seat, hotfoot, cable pulley steering and a 5" jack plate right about 400 lbs

it had very anemic and short knee braces when new.. They only went up the the underside of the splashwell and covered with what looked like one layer of chopped mat.. The 235 evinrude was bolted on when the boat was brand new and the trailer tire caught a deep hole when rounding a corner and put a nice crack in the transom.. After we put in the new knees all the way to the top of the transom and stringers laminated properly, we couldnt budge the transom one iota, not one tiny flex at all with the 16" v6 merc..

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Ready for paint:

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Paint:

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Few more:

[Ted Stryker]

Almost there.. that first slow ride backward down the ramp into the water is a fun time

[GIL_CV21]

Um Doug , thats too shiny for you , you should let me hold on to it . Beautiful job Doug !!

[71V153]

Um Doug , thats too shiny for you , you should let me hold on to it . Beautiful job Doug !!No worries Gil. I'm sure I'll scratch her up soon enough. Now it's down to my shop to paint the floor and begin rigging.

[Li'l Toy]

A while back in this thread you were asking about speed you could expect. This hull (with the 17 Hydrostream and 16 Action)was the classic JP boat in the late 70's early 80's. Most ran 150 Merc, some guy tried with the OMC. I recall that what I think was a good top speed for a race (not set up for Kilos) was 84. I would think your 99 ci OMC, if it is a 140, should get it to high 70's low 80's. And we had to run bone stock--sounds like you may have some ideas for the motor.

[71V153]

Motor's purty strong. Scalloped block & pistons, squared off ports, lil knocked off the heads, '77 drilled mid, etc. We're thinkin 80 or so isn't too far fetched?

[Ted Stryker]

It should easily.. my 16' with a warmed over 140 ran 71mph at 1/2 track (SDBA event) with a bummy 23 omc silver streak and rpm'd out very shortly thereafter

[71V153]

Okay. After some delay ... we're back on the project. Hope to get the motor hung this weekend.

Need to do a couple mods to the jackplate first. For some reason the bottom bolt slot isn't as tall as the top. Won't let it go all the way up. Gave it to Ultrafast this afternoon and he's gonna waller it out for me on his mill.

Stay tuned.

[Da Bull]

Yep, Did that on the way to the ramp for the first time. 20inch motor no transom support. Should have known better. We had James Wilkins build that boat heavy as it needed the weight for our class anyhow. I always liked that lil yellow boat to. You have a picture of me in it at Lake Buhlow I think.

DB

[71V153]

We did the transom and knees in one big pour on mine. Just under 5 gals of goo.

[71V153]

Okay got the 'Jaque platte' back from Ultrafast today. A la elongated/matching adjustment slots. Picked up an inch or so in height. WooHoo! Thanks Don.

Hopin to get the motor hung tomorrow.

[GIL_CV21]

Okay got the 'Jaque platte' back from Ultrafast today. A la elongated/matching adjustment slots. Picked up an inch or so in height. WooHoo! Thanks Don.

Hopin to get the motor hung tomorrow.Quit draggin yer feet on this one lol . Cant wait to see it :thumbsup:

[71V153]

Welp we got the motor on. Reckon the lipstick's gonna have to wait. Eh, least the cowl's painted ...

[DanUmbarger]

Johnson motor cover makes it look a lot taller. Nice looking rig!!! How does the cav plate work for ya?

[71V153]

Yeah but I think I'm gonna paint up the old school cowl I got. It's in purty good shape.

Thanks. Can't take all the credit. Had a lotta help.

Luv the Bob's True Tracker. Really helps with holeshot. Gotta carbon fiber drag plate I might try later on. After I install the nosecone and get the motor up where it needs to be.

[71V153]

Almost got the seat done:

[DanUmbarger]

I personally like the look of the Evinrude cowl over the Johnson....I'm doing the same thing with my 1975 Johnson 135...painting it the 1988 light blue and using an Evinrude cowl....think it will match the blue old school flake on my restored Hustler. I got to come down on my motor a little...am up to being 1 3/4 down from the bottom and it looses water pressure and speed as I trim out and appears to start blowing out. Just too high for the old OMC gearcase I think. Was thinking about a cav plate to help with the holeshot but am also considering turning my set of 4" setback plates into a hydraulic jack plate...have an old Suzuki trim and tilt system that might work. Don't want to make this boat into a "raceboat" per se...just want to be in the 55-58 range when I want it.



Yeah but I think I'm gonna paint up the old school cowl I got. It's in purty good shape.

Thanks. Can't take all the credit. Had a lotta help.

Luv the Bob's True Tracker. Really helps with holeshot. Gotta carbon fiber drag plate I might try later on. After I install the nosecone and get the motor up where it needs to be.

[71V153]

Next time I'm rich gonna go with a Strangler motif. Or Stinger. One or the other ...

[71V153]

Well we finally got a coat of paint on the floor. Scuff and 2nd coat tomorrow. Then start rigging. WooHoo!

[71V153]

That effing bug paid with his life. Naturally the cser had to drag himself through the paint bout 3' aft of where he landed ...

[71V153]

Dug out that carbon fiber drag plate. Figger I'll get it cleaned up a lil.

Reckon once I get the motor up high enough I'll give her a shot. Cuz even with the True Tracker this thing throws water everywhere comin outa the hole?

[71V153]

2nd coat. Got about 1/3 qt left over for touch up. No bugs. Yet ...

[71V153]

Got the shifter in, and trim ring on for wire bundle. Daylight savings time sucks!

[71V153]

Seat's in:

[71V153]

Monkeyed around with the trailer a lil this afternoon. New tongue jack. Had to make my own bolts out of threaded rod, but worked out okay.

Turned the winch around so the handle's on the right side. Took it apart and lubed it up too.

Gonna try'n get the steering in tomorrow.

[1954bmw]

We did the transom and knees in one big pour on mine. Just under 5 gals of goo.
I'm sorry, what do you mean by five gallons of goo??? How did you do the knees and stuff, what is goo???

[71V153]

I'm sorry, what do you mean by five gallons of goo??? How did you do the knees and stuff, what is goo???Pourable 'ceramic' transom compound, a la Seacast. We used an Arjay equivalent. AdTech makes one too, and there are probly others.

[71V153]

Major milestone. Steering in. WooHoo! Gotta paint my nasty wheel and hide the hoses, but it works. Yeehaw!

Check out my patented custom filling/bleeding system ...

[Da Bull]

Yep, That`ll do it.

[DanUmbarger]

I used to do it the same way but finally bought a Power Purge ....10 minutes start to finish but you need to do a lot of boats to pay for it.

[71V153]

I got a gallon of Aero Shell at the small airport here for $32 Bucks. So's don't mind spillin a lil ...

Yeah but a Power Purge would be nice.

[71V153]

Regardless I think we got mosta the air out. Always seems to make it's way to the helm eventually?

[71V153]

Tach's cool I guess but there doesn't appear to be a way to anchor it to the dash. Was just shoved/glued in. Leaning towards an OMC tach and filling the recall switch hole with a water pressure gauge?

[71V153]

Mocked/mucked up the dash. Orig holes 'cept new one for wp gauge. Wish Id'a gone a 1/4" higher but oh well. Think I can still squeeze a toggle switch for the bilge pump in under. Hole used to be occupied by recall switch for the tach. But a simple man like me don't need no high dollar 14000 rpm tach that tells me how fast I just went ... (for sale, make offer ...)

Happy Tday y'all! (Remember to thank the good lord, or whoever, for boats ...)

[71V153]

Had the motor runnin for a second. Shut her down to apply water. Friggin "flushette" broke as I slid it into position. Wouldn't hold water. Grr

Eh reckon I ought not leave it out in the sun for so long ...

[71V153]

Wiring ain't all that bad actually. Ignition, trim, and 'kill switch' are working as they should. Just need to get the tach figgered out.

[71V153]

First coat of Plasti-Dip on the crusty wheel. Figger what the hell, works on 'murder vans' and Nova's ...

[71V153]

Kinda diggin this plasti dip. Decided to paint the tank with it too. Matches the grey stripe(s) on the boat.

Fyi when usin the stuff, shake well before and during use. And ALWAYS turn the can upside down and clear the nozzle after spraying. Ask me how I know ...

[71V153]

Dash done 'cept for bilge pump switch. Ain't findin any with a long enough threaded shaft. Anybody got a lead?

Trim quit due to broken wire comin outa switch. Not repairable, naturally.

Wheel done, and two sides of tank. Only three more to go! Falling in love with plasti-dip btw ...

[71V153]

Does this tank make my boat look fat? ...

[FMP]

I've heard black is slimming
Great job

[71V153]

Ah so that's why the fat biatch cross the street always wears black pants? I knew it!

Regardless. Thanks FMP. The "to do" list is finally gettin shorter.

With any luck we'll have her in the water couple few weeks. Shootin fer by new years at the latest.

[FMP]

Yup, she's been eyeballing your work waiting for a ride.

[71V153]

Ha! Too bad I only got one seat? And I ain't so sure she'd fit into it ...

[FMP]

Ha, she'll sit on your lap

[71V153]

Ha, she'll sit on your lapFat chance'a that ...

[FMP]

Give us the fat details on the 140

[71V153]

Okay for chit's n giggles we disected the trim switch. Now if'n I could only find my soldering iron ...

Tank's almost done. And at this time I would like to officially proclaim my love for Plasti-Dip ...

Discovered they have cans of 'glossifier' and 'metallic-erizer' at the china mart behind the shop. Be interesting to monkey around with?

[FMP]

Motor's purty strong. Scalloped block & pistons, squared off ports, lil knocked off the heads, '77 drilled mid, etc. We're thinkin 80 or so isn't too far fetched?

Pics

[71V153]

Give us the fat details on the 140Okay ... but it's kinda a frankinrude.

'77 140 .030, scalloped block and teflon pistons, rod slots cut, rods and pistons balanced. '78 hi comp heads minus a lil. Later model (taller) intake w/recirc lines, stuffers, and Carson reeds. Large bore type III carbs with primers. Upgraded to CD4 unlimited single powerpack, flywheel and ignition. Relieved '77 megaphone mid.

That's about all's I kin come up with for now ...

[71V153]

Might square off a set of reed cages next time I grow a wild hair up my butt ...

[FMP]

Can you run without the reed stops? Spread wide?

[71V153]

Can you run without the reed stops? Spread wide?Heard tale of cutting the stops down a lil. Never running without?

[FMP]

Different applications but the five finger Chrysler then Merc . Two stage reeds without gained 75 rpm. Never broke one, hundreds of hrs. First spread the stops as wide as the case would fit, then removed them keeping the strip along the screw holes. If I remember the instructions said remove for the V4.

[71V153]

Ya this thing had never been run. Two stage Boyesons in it when I got it. But I'm kinda partial to Carson reeds.

I'm told some of the later/cleaner Ficht cages will fit in an xflow intake. But have yet to experiment.

[FMP]

Sure ,a little more choice for stiffness with CC. I'd pull the stops and see what's up after you mod the cages.

[71V153]

Two coats on top of the tank. Almost done. WooHoo!

[71V153]

Should I use anything special to rinse the tank out with, or just gas?

[Tom Foley]

Should I use anything special to rinse the tank out with, or just gas?Just clean gas with no oil . Drain it best you can then do a separator filter change after the first ride , cut it open and see what you get . Was it real dirty before ?

[71V153]

Was it real dirty before ?Nah don't think so. When I shine a light inside it looks kinda oily and glossy. Reckon that's a good thing?

[DanUmbarger]

Ya know...that Strangler color combo would look killer with you newly painted boat!!!!! After sayin that it might look pretty good on my restored Hustler.



Next time I'm rich gonna go with a Strangler motif. Or Stinger. One or the other ...

[71V153]

Water bound tomorrow. Stay tuned

[FMP]

Wearing a Santa hat

[71V153]

Maiden voyage. Ran great. Gonna need a lot more seat time before I can open her up.

[Hot Shot Merc]

congrats thats gotta feel good finally:thumbsup:

[71V153]

Had her out at fake lake Sunday. Ran 66.6. Then let Koster drive and the sob ran 68.2. [crying ...]

Solid mounts, nose cone/lwp, and more height are in order. Sadly it's high as it'll go with the jackplate as is, but I think I can pick up an inch or two by drilling some new/lower holes. Believe there's enough meat there?

[sharpeye Mike]

You can go up another 2 1/2 to 3" with out low water pickup. Just block off the two top water pickups on both

sides with epoxy 396109