Titling a boat in New York

[mragu]

Is anyone familiar with the process needed in Titling a boat in New York.
Exisiting owner does not have title. Want to title it. Was last titled in New Jersey
Thanks, Mike

[davemvegas]

i think best option is to get a duplicate title issued from nj. then with title in hand it becomes easy to title in any state.

[282]

If the previous owner had a title in his name it would be best if he gets you a title. If its a boat that never was titled in the previous owners name then you have problems. Each owner has to have it titled in there name in order to legally sell it.

[vnemous]

Here is the story. The boat and title were given to a guy who did not title it in his name as it needed restoration. Than Sandy came and took his home and title with it. So no title and now no original owner still in state or to be found. How do they title Sandy boats?

[JerseyChris]

Here is the story. The boat and title were given to a guy who did not title it in his name as it needed restoration. Than Sandy came and took his home and title with it. So no title and now no original owner still in state or to be found. How do they title Sandy boats?

Does the new owner have any documentation that he bought the boat? If he does not he will have a hell of a time convincing anyone that the boat is legally his considering all the boats that "floated" away in Sandy..

[vnemous]

Owner is me and no I have nothing from the person that I got it from. He is awol in the wind. Walked from his demolished home no where to be found.

[racervboat]

If the boat was titled before with the hull id your screwed in getting a new title.Here in mn you can take a bond on the boat from the state and if no one claimes the boat as lost,stolen,abandoned in 5yrs the state would issue a new title but that's a long time to wait but in the mean time you still can use the boat.

[mragu]

I think the present owner is very trustworthy. I have dealt with him in the past and is a retired LEO. ;) Am looking for people who have had experience with this in NEW YORK as each state is different but unfortunately is where I live:)

[maddad]

You should go down to DMV and ask. When I got my boat twenty years ago, I was in the same position. It's a '72 with no HIN. They arranged an inspection by I think a sheriff. I never had to follow through though, at literally the last minute, the guy I bought it from reappeared on LI. None of my good luck changes the fact that they are helpful down at DMV, and they have a process for your situation.

[rockyone]

Lien the boat for storage in new york, make up a bill for storage call lien service company they do all the leg work and paper work they will then set up an auction date ( make the bill for more than the boat is worth ) when no one shows up to bid they hand you all the paper work for the boat and you go to DMV and get your title the last one i did was $220

[Greg G]

As most people have said this will take some effort but it can be done. First question, does the boat have any type of HIN visible or in the hidden second location. It can be embossed (of course best) bolted on tag, or written in grease pencil. If yes, run the MIC to see if the is a manufacturer associated AT ALL and when they went out of business.

Based on findings, other steps follow

[tux974]

You should go down to DMV and ask. When I got my boat twenty years ago, I was in the same position. It's a '72 with no HIN. They arranged an inspection by I think a sheriff. I never had to follow through though, at literally the last minute, the guy I bought it from reappeared on LI. None of my good luck changes the fact that they are helpful down at DMV, and they have a process for your situation.

This is an option but it will take work. The inspection will be done by the Marine bureau and they will install a new set of #'s.


Lien the boat for storage in new york, make up a bill for storage call lien service company they do all the leg work and paper work they will then set up an auction date ( make the bill for more than the boat is worth ) when no one shows up to bid they hand you all the paper work for the boat and you go to DMV and get your title the last one i did was $220

This is your best, fastest and probably easiest option, many marine shops do it or have done it.

[HStream1]

Boat was left at Fullers for repair and restoration Prior to Sandy. Owner abandoned the boat and is no where to be found as he washed his hands completely after loosing everything to Sandy. A dealer can get a abandoned boat titled WAY faster than most other ways. And YES Mragu, vnemous is a trustworthy guy!!!

[vnemous]

I went to the home where the person lived who I got the boat. The house that was there is now gone and replaced with a raised home and the owners have no idea what I am talking about. I have no idea of the name of who i got the boat or who he got it from.

[Baja16]

What year is the boat? NY only requires titles for boats ~1990 and newer if i remember right... Any thing older than that just has a transferable reg. Best bet is to call the DMV and explain the situation and see want they need to get it registered.

The only experience i have is when i bought my LTV it didnt have any paperwork (factory raceboat), the DMV had me fill-out a bunch of forms (even had a form for the guy i bought from to fill out), i had to take pic's of the boat and HIN #, and went to the DMV registered it and they initially gave me a non-transferable reg. then months later sent me a transferable one. Its a 1983 boat though (no title needed).

When I bought my 1994 Mod-VP it was last registered in NC and all i had was a transferable reg. (no titles issued their) so when i registered it NY they issued me a title for it.

It all depends what state its coming from and what NYS needs to register it from that state so like i mentioned just call the DMV and ask.

[RNM018]

Mechanics Lein ! Place a lein on the boat and trailer , as it was left at your shop to be repaired .Then you will need to send a Certified Letter , to the registered owner .When the letter is returned , you will be able to get a Clear Title in your own name . Atleast , That is how it works here in Fl. Rich Martin 018

[Richard]

Boats in NYSneeds titles back into the 1980's if memory serves me correctly . He would be all set of the boat was originally titled in NYS. That is he would need to send a certified or registered (one of the two) to the address of the last owner. Considering he's gone, it would be returned undeliverable. or address unknown. That letter in hand he could go down to a local NYS motor vehicle office and request a duplicate title. think there is some form that goes with it. I bought a 1988 apache some years ago with no title. owner was no where to be found. I followed that procedure and got a new title and registration. that was 10 years ago. things probably haven't changed for boats in that time period. not sure about NJ but could be the same procedure. check with your local dmv. they would know.

[vnemous]

So I have the registration on the boat run and it comes back to Daniel T Rochat, Woodridge, NJ so dont it figure

http://www.northjersey.com/news/police-wood-ridge-man-arrested-in-realtor-s-murder-1.406942

[rockyone]

Well at least you know were to find him :smiletest:

[vnemous]

yeah 3 million dollar bail no 10% still sitting there lol

[HStream1]

So I guess your next move is to have a document drawn up pay him a visit and having him sign it over to you? :)

[4Speed]

Not sure this is of value but if the guys house went to sea with Sandy and there is something else currently on the lot where his house was, how did the real estate take place as the property had to legally change hands especially if a bank was involved. Perhaps looking in this direction for a contact name or address. I would assume there had to be some type of title or legal document pertaining to the land his house was on. just a thought...

[vnemous]

Not sure this is of value but if the guys house went to sea with Sandy and there is something else currently on the lot where his house was, how did the real estate take place as the property had to legally change hands especially if a bank was involved. Perhaps looking in this direction for a contact name or address. I would assume there had to be some type of title or legal document pertaining to the land his house was on. just a thought...
Registered owner is in jail charged with 13 counts ranging from murder, attempted murder and arson.

[Baja170]

Damn Mike, are you a private detective as well as a Marine Dealership?

[boomer]

Can you title it as Home made? It does not have to be inspected so why not?

[vnemous]

Damn Mike, are you a private detective as well as a Marine Dealership?

Well Will I am actually retired after 36 years in law enforcement, I still have a few hooks. The Dealership belongs to wonderful people named George and Debbie Fuller. George goes by Mercace on here. They were kind enough to give me seasonal employment after my retirement in 2011 giving me the opportunity to spend my winters in Florida as a snowbird:D

[Baja170]

Nice, good for you and them. I hope to be a snowbird one day myself. 5 years to go, 4 years until we can sell this place in NC and live in TN full time. One of these days. Need some FLA months to warm my bones.