New 2016 Talon 22 Build thread

[Spectre Powerboats]

Randy a new 400 HP CRT engine would be so sweet on this boat! looking great!! Launched there web site its live. Just mind blowing what they have done kinda like your Talon. :cheers: http://www.caldwellracingtechnology.com/products-2/ check out the vids in Gallery

I have told Caldwell I will take some to stock for new boats.

[Baja170]

The more I look at your paint job Randy the more I love it. Very cool. At first it seemed complicated but it fits the boat to a T. That is going to be the most bad ass Screaming Eagle Talon 22 every put on the water. Man I wish I was rich, I would have already given you a deposit! I gotta make some money and get an XL from Todd and get you to put the engine and drive out of my Cougar in one of those. I really like the Cougar, but I LOVE the lines of the Talon and I think your paint job really accents it's shape. You are amazing dude!!!

[AZMIDLYF]

I would like to dream about an XL with one of these on its tail...

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[TooStroked]

I hope some folks who know little to nothing about what it takes to design, prep, paint and then rig a hull are watching this thread. Not only is Randy showing how it’s done, he’s also showing how long it takes to actually do it. And if anybody’s noticed, it takes a lot of time.

Oh, and just in case anybody’s wondering why high quality paint and rigging work costs a small fortune, your answer is also in this thread.

Nice work Randy! I stand in awe.

Tom

[sxpilot]

I hope some folks who know little to nothing about what it takes to design, prep, paint and then rig a hull are watching this thread. Not only is Randy showing how it’s done, he’s also showing how long it takes to actually do it. And if anybody’s noticed, it takes a lot of time.

Oh, and just in case anybody’s wondering why high quality paint and rigging work costs a small fortune, your answer is also in this thread.

Nice work Randy! I stand in awe.

Tom

For sure!!!100%

im really liking this one, it just looks mean!!!

nice Job as usual Randy!!!

[WILDMAN]

Paint and tape were $1540. Those little skinny rolls of 3M Fineline masking tape are about $18 each, and I use ALOT of them. Most people just have no idea. After it's painted, it will take about 2 1/2 days to sand and buff out so that you can't feel all the graphics. I did add another red candy metalflake stripe today to the transom to separate the silver and black. The boat is all taped and ready to clearcoat on Monday!

[AZMIDLYF]

That gives that area some more personality..:iagree:

[sxpilot]

I hope some folks who know little to nothing about what it takes to design, prep, paint and then rig a hull are watching this thread. Not only is Randy showing how it’s done, he’s also showing how long it takes to actually do it. And if anybody’s noticed, it takes a lot of time.

Oh, and just in case anybody’s wondering why high quality paint and rigging work costs a small fortune, your answer is also in this thread.

Nice work Randy! I stand in awe.

Tom

For sure!!!100%

im really liking this one, it just looks mean!!!

nice Job as usual Randy!!!

[gman]

Hey Wildman..be glad you live in Daytona and not NC and northward or you would be by the fire..boat looks great but am I the only one that see's all of the sunshine in the background and how you are able to work just about everyday...so hurry up and get that thing finished and post some video of it running for all of us that are in a deep freeze

[Baja170]

Yea a ****ty job would take about half the time and always be ****ty, you would have to look at it as long as you own the boat..

Randy's work is SPOT ON neat and clean and great and when you get a boat from him it will always look the same, flawless and well thought out. I wish I had the cash to buy this Talon. I have been in Todd's shop and watched he and his guys making them, I would trade my Cougar + cash if I had it in an instant for this boat!

[bob miller]

Paint and tape were $1540. Those little skinny rolls of 3M Fineline masking tape are about $18 each, and I use ALOT of them. Most people just have no idea. After it's painted, it will take about 2 1/2 days to sand and buff out so that you can't feel all the graphics. I did add another red candy metalflake stripe today to the transom to separate the silver and black. The boat is all taped and ready to clearcoat on Monday!

Wildman , sure wish I had half of your energy , what is your secret ?

[sxpilot]

Randy what Paint System are you using? And how much time do you have to work with base coat before you clear?

[Baja170]

Wildman , sure wish I had half of your energy , what is your secret ?

No kidding, he could probably bottle that up and sell it and make a lot more than selling boats and just go ride around all the time instead of working. ;)

[WILDMAN]

Normally, you need to clear over the basecoat within 20 minutes for good adhesion. Obviously, I can't do that. I spray House of Kolor "Intercoat Clear" over each color graphic. That way I can wetsand after the graphics are done without hurting the candy or pearl effects. I wetsand the whole boat with 400 grit just before I'm ready to clear. Then I go over it with a Scotch brite pad and soapy water and rinse immediately. I NEVER wipe anything down with wax and grease remover before paint. That just seems to cause more problems than it helps. I will also put on a coat of "BULLDOG" adhesion promoter just for extra adhesion. I use PPG paints and PPG Concept clear ($478 for a gallon kit) For my pearls, marble, and candy, I use House of Kolor paints.




Randy what Paint System are you using? And how much time do you have to work with base coat before you clear?

[sxpilot]

Normally, you need to clear over the basecoat within 20 minutes for good adhesion. Obviously, I can't do that. I spray House of Kolor "Intercoat Clear" over each color graphic. That way I can wetsand after the graphics are done without hurting the candy or pearl effects. I wetsand the whole boat with 400 grit just before I'm ready to clear. Then I go over it with a Scotch brite pad and soapy water and rinse immediately. I NEVER wipe anything down with wax and grease remover before paint. That just seems to cause more problems than it helps. I will also put on a coat of "BULLDOG" adhesion promoter just for extra adhesion. I use PPG paints and PPG Concept clear ($478 for a gallon kit) For my pearls, marble, and candy, I use House of Kolor paints.

Very nice products no doubt!
i used Matrix Systems to paint my stv, and to get the colors all on and clear in time was almost impossible, in the end I was not happy with the final job, swore I would leave the painting for the pros in the future.

doing all these graphics, marbles, multi colors, pearls, metal flakes, plus the capping the rear, is truly a lot of hard work, I would say the paint and mods on this hull alone, is almost equal to the hull cost it's self.

on my XL build I may look to you shoot it, a simple scheme, solid silver I believe, I'm liking the silver metal flake, if it works out that way,

[Mr. Demeanor]

Randy you need to do a skull or something similar in one of your builds.
Pic courtesy of Freeze Frame

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[half fast]

I wish you had the correct Talon font before it got painted on . I have it if you want it Randy . Otherwise it's going to be a cool piece . Hf ...

[WILDMAN]

I got it off another Talon, but it may be wrong. Send it to my email at liberatorboats@yahoo.com

[sxpilot]

I think these are original...

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[WILDMAN]

Yes, mine are original but stretched to be taller.

[panther150]

Randy you need to do a skull or something similar in one of your builds.
Pic courtesy of Freeze Frame

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you like skulls on boats?

[WILDMAN]

The boat got the clear coat today. Pics coming tomorrow!! SPARKLE, SPARKLE!! THE FLAKE LOOKS AWESOME!

[hometown45]

Salivating.....

[Scream And Fly]

The boat got the clear coat today. Pics coming tomorrow!! SPARKLE, SPARKLE!! THE FLAKE LOOKS AWESOME!

Flake is the best. Can't wait to see it!

[fichrman2]

The boat got the clear coat today. Pics coming tomorrow!! SPARKLE, SPARKLE!! THE FLAKE LOOKS AWESOME!

TEASE :leaving:
With the amount of hours in it and it being dark already by the time stamp on your post , Its worth the wait to see it in the light of day. :D

[WILDMAN]

I can't push it out in the sun with wet paint. Only a few more hours and everyone will see it!

[hydroo]

Randy you know I love your work! That being said the "Talon" brand is a great logo it should be done correctly. It's like the "Rolex" font stretched. Or the Jeep logo "JEEP". It just doesn't do this iconic boat justice. Re-spray it please!

[300x Stoker]

Be careful making suggestions to craftsmen and artists.

[WILDMAN]

Randy you know I love your work! That being said the "Talon" brand is a great logo it should be done correctly. It's like the "Rolex" font stretched. Or the Jeep logo "JEEP". It just doesn't do this iconic boat justice. Re-spray it please!

Nope, not going to happen! It would literally take about 3 days to redo.

[boaterok]

Randy you know I love your work! That being said the "Talon" brand is a great logo it should be done correctly. It's like the "Rolex" font stretched. Or the Jeep logo "JEEP". It just doesn't do this iconic boat justice. Re-spray it please!

Kinda like having a oval bowtie

[BUD]

hate to say it, it really needs to be redone or taken off.

[Spectre Powerboats]

Great job Randy and keep up the good work.

[JPEROG]

Randy's stuff is top shelf, and his talent & drive is matched by very few. It will be interesting to see which of the critics steps up to buy the boat and has the logo stripped and redone.--

Joe

[AZMIDLYF]

Beat me to it Joe^^^ When you put the money down for ownership, I'm sure that Randy will paint this thing anyway you like. Until then...let the man do his thing.

Love the flake use also!! :cheers:

[Baja170]

I just can't wait to see it!!! You are killing us Randy!!!

[WILDMAN]

I am still sitting at home in my sweatpants waiting for it to warm up. It is only 69° Right now. too cold for me. Going to be 78° today, warm enough to take a picture. I just thought I would rub it into you guys up north with 20 below zero

[AZMIDLYF]

Hah, come out here where we are probably bumping 90 today. :eek:

[Dave Strong]

It's a balmy 32F here, got up to 60 yesterday. Then snowed a ince and a half last night. :rolleyes:
This logo business is stupid and petty.


Dave :)

[JerseyChris]

Sure wish you started this 8 months ago.. It would be in my driveway.. Love what you're doing with it.. :)

[custom1skier]

For what it's worth and it's only my opinion... What the crap does it matter the font used? We have a new boat manufacturer and builder/rigger... I don't care if this is their first attempt of 1000th it is turning out great and the logo looks more "modern"!! I could even see taking it further... I recant my earlier statement about the scallops being out dated. The layout is well exicuted. I can't wait to see the finished product!!

[Dave Strong]

Alot of boat makers change their logos over the years. Cougar boats in Canada had 4 versions while in Canada. When sold the new US owners was revised again. BAJA had a few as did others.

Dave

[TooStroked]

I am still sitting at home in my sweatpants waiting for it to warm up. It is only 69° Right now. too cold for me. Going to be 78° today, warm enough to take a picture. I just thought I would rub it into you guys up north with 20 below zero

15" of snow since about midnight and it's still coming down. At least it's right around freezing. Not quite cold enough for jeans though - just shorts.

[WILDMAN]

OK, here's some pics. It is crazy in the sun, but some pics don't show how much.

[WILDMAN]

More pics. I'll be wetsanding and buffing for a couple days now!

[WILDMAN]

Last ones for now

[Dave Strong]

Red on the transom was a good call.

Dave

[hometown45]

DAMN the man can mask! Fantastic, fabulous work sir.

[pointer]

Sweet!

pointer

[AZMIDLYF]

Don't rig it...hang it on the wall. That is the perfect combination of clean and wild.

[MIKEBRLS]

looking Great

[panther150]

looks amazing Randy! this is going to become a rare boat, your first, and the last of the wood transom talons. The paint work is out of this world! Cant wait to see the rigging and interior.

Steve

[diernosaj]

middle marble effect shoulda been ghost skulls...LOL jk

amazing. wish i had the money to buy it.

[Scream And Fly]

That is unreal! Amazing work!

[boaterok]

Are you going to put any stripes between the black to red and the red to silver before you clear?

[delawarerick]

Wow now that is great.

[WILDMAN]

Nope! Paint is DONE! I still gotta paint the dash and console though.




Are you going to put any stripes between the black to red and the red to silver before you clear?

[Dave Strong]

Nope! Paint is DONE! I still gotta paint the dash and console though.

What about the hatch? Paint and or upholstery?

Dave

[WILDMAN]

Todd is making a new hatch that we can upholster. The stock hatch is useless but available if someone wants it.

[Spectre Powerboats]

What about the hatch? Paint and or upholstery?

Dave

Damn! You had to mention the hatch. We are making a new hatch with 1/4 tighter all the way around and we are removing the vents. We had to make inserts to go into the mold to narrow the hatch up and after it cures for a few more days we will pull it out and cut out the vents and flatten that area. We will be making a new mold without the vents so customer's will have the option of the old style or the new style.

[sxpilot]

Todd is making a new hatch that we can upholster. The stock hatch is useless but available if someone wants it.
I agree with you, other than looking just ok, these talon hatches are useless, uncomfortable to sit on.
Ill have Todd make me a solid one soon!

Todd I almost have your cash for the XL...

[MODVP22]

I agree with you, other than looking just ok, these talon hatches are useless, uncomfortable to sit on.
Ill have Todd make me a solid one soon!

Todd I almost have your cash for the XL...

Replacing Xtreme Overkill?

[Spectre Powerboats]

Replacing Xtreme Overkill?

We are building something special!! :D

[AZMIDLYF]

Refining perfection..:iagree:

[sxpilot]

Replacing Xtreme Overkill?

Not at the moment, gonna build a XL light weight, and rig it with minimums and my 280's, I have a big single to put on the overkill if I decide to keep it.

for now I want the XL, figure it will take the lake water a little better. And be all new glass..

[Brad Zastrow]

Big thumbs up!!!!!

[whipper]

Ya always need a big sun pad so chicks can lay down in there bikinis. :D

[WILDMAN]

Finally done sanding and buffing after 3 days. Well, I still gotta do the final finish buff but I'll wait until I get the dash painted in case I get any overspray on anything.

[WILDMAN]

Finally done sanding and buffing after 3 days. Well, I still gotta do the final finish buff but I'll wait until I get the dash painted in case I get any overspray on anything.

[Baja170]

Can't wait to see it. One bad ass boat. Can't wait to see what you can get out of it with the 300XS.

[panther150]

are you going to use your usual drag 4 prop Randy?

[WILDMAN]

It Will be one of the props that I will try

[Spectre Powerboats]

BBlades 14.75 x 32

[F14]

Finally done sanding and buffing after 3 days. Well, I still gotta do the final finish buff but I'll wait until I get the dash painted in case I get any overspray on anything.


Randy, get your hands on some of the sandpaper, polishes and dust free sanding systems made by the company I work for, Mirka Abrasives. We have some products that will save you time and effort and money.
I handle Tesla Motors and they only use our products. The Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing company has been trying to get the business since day one. They cant compete.

[WILDMAN]

I used to always buy Mirka sandpaper but they do not sell it anymore where I buy my stuff. It is a lot cheaper than 3M

[F14]

The Mirka polishing compounds are fantastic!

[WILDMAN]

I have never tried any of their polishing compound. I've been using Maguires 105. Maybe you can get me some to try

[TooStroked]

I have never tried any of their polishing compound. I've been using Maguires 105. Maybe you can get me some to try

Randy,

I do a reasonable amount of detailing (all automotive) and loved - but stopped using - Meguiar's M105 a while back. They have a newer product called M101 Foam Cut Compound that cures the biggest problem with M105 - the dusting. You might want to try it. I haven't used my M105 since going to M101.

[Ing]

Another work of art! Just a suggestion. Not sure if you mentioned what the trailers you were going to us for these Talons but I know Talon used Owens & Sons Slide-On aluminum, single axle, for this hull. That's what mine came with and the bunks were set up perfect. It was an easy boat to launch and retrieve alone.
Looking forward to the rigging! :thumbsup:

[WILDMAN]

I just got the trailer yesterday. All welded, Polished stainless fenders with TALON logo. torsion axels and mag wheels.

[AZMIDLYF]

Attention to all the details by you is going to give someone a sweet set up.

[Adam McKeon]

BBlades 14.75 x 32For best performance, ya'll better make that a 30 BBLADES Blaster for this one, maybe even a 29.

[AZMIDLYF]

For best performance, ya'll better make that a 30 BBLADES Blaster for this one, maybe even a 29.

What was the set back used on yours?

[MODVP22]

We are building something special!! :D

quit holding out....it's freezing here, lol

[300x Stoker]

That's still pretty fast right??


For best performance, ya'll better make that a 30 BBLADES Blaster for this one, maybe even a 29.

[Adam McKeon]

That's still pretty fast right?? for many, this boat will be plenty fast.

[sxpilot]

for many, this boat will be plenty fast.

Not for you!:cheers:

[WILDMAN]

I started painting the dash and console today. Here's pics with the black. Red will go on next.

[boaterok]

I sure don't envy you in getting in and out of the boat every time. I have spent the last 2 days diagnosing and then pulling the trans out of my 1940 17' ChrisCraft barrel when your 62 years old and 225 pounds its a tight fit and my azz hurts from sitting on the stringers. So I feel your pain in adding the colors and doing it right between coats. But keep it up for the rest of us!!!!!!!!!

[tux974]

Hey Randy, you running twins or trips with all those holes????..........;):D

[BUD]

So what would be everybody's dream power on a new 22?

[WILDMAN]

No just the standard seven gauges.. The stereo is the gauge style stereo though. The square holes are switch panels.



QUOTE=tux974;2832792]Hey Randy, you running twins or trips with all those holes????..........;):D[/QUOTE]

[JerseyChris]

So what would be everybody's dream power on a new 22?

I would say twin 225 Promaxs would be a great combo

[mikesufka]

So what would be everybody's dream power on a new 22?

Mr. Higgs has an original twin 22 with 200XS's. Sweet running boat, incredible acceleration, and it just sips fuel. Runs out of speed at 100 MPH, but it was a turn key great boat. Tough to beat that, unless you wanna deal with 280's and now you have a 120+ MPH rocket on your hands.

MDS

[WILDMAN]

The 280's and 225 Promaxes were discontinued in 2005. It would be hard to sell a new boat with 11+ year old motors. New 200xs motors cost more than a 300xs and have no warrantee.

[mikesufka]

To answer the above question ................ single 300XS

[panther150]

there was a 22 talon with twin 15" promax's up in Ontario Canada a few years ago it accelerated like crazy, but given all the currents facts I think the single 300xs is the motor to go with. if you want more speed, DBR or Simonize it.

[BUD]

would a VROD be to much weight?

[WILDMAN]

I taped off the black and sprayed the red basecoat today. Tomorrow I'll do the marble and red candy over the marble. I will also have some silver marble between the black and red marble.

[AZMIDLYF]

It is tough to visualize but the black is going to be the border around the red/candy/marble/silver? :confused:

[WILDMAN]

Yes there is a black border around all the red. The console is painted completely black except where you see taped. If you look at post 337 you can see how much is black. Also the half circle around the steering hub will have a three-quarter inch black border going through the red. It is hard to visualize when it's all papered and masked off

[AZMIDLYF]

And that is what makes you stand out from us creatively challenged individuals..the vision. :cheers:

[baja200merk]

They float two 3.0 just fine. One 627 would be fun to see how it does.

[AZMIDLYF]

They float two 3.0 just fine. One 627 would be fun to see how it does.

These 2 would look nice on one...

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[King Dad]

It goes without saying that these are my most anticipated posts I look forward to each day. One question I have Randy is... on installing rub rails. How do you managed to make the bends at the transom and at the front of the hulls/decks with out "kinking" the stainless or aluminum..?? A tunnel hull/pickelfork would seem to be a real challenge??? Do you strive to use just one piece or center on the very front and work your way down each side? A 20 foot hull would use in excess of 45Ft of rail... OR, are you using 8 foot sections.? Any longer and freight issues come into play? Is it a two man install? Thru-bolt, I assume? Ever use the rails that have a slit in them that incorporate the nav lights in them?? Or are those lights a self install?? Thanks for the info and the pictures. P.V.

[WILDMAN]

I had to choose a rubrail that would bend around the sharp corners easily. I am using a 1 inch aluminum rail. It comes in 12 foot sections. All the Bends had to be made before the paint work started. If you try to bend them on the paint it will go chip it up. The back has no rubrail, that's why it is all "capped" and molded in smooth.

[baja200merk]

These 2 would look nice on one...

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Those two make more power then a 627 and max rpm is 2000 more but the weight is very* close ;)

[WILDMAN]

I sprayed the marble this morning and the red candy this afternoon. Next will come the clearcoat. Of course now I have to tape off the entire boat because the urethane clear will stick to everything

[sxpilot]

Randy in your opinion how difficult would it be to "Cap" the entire boat? just as you did to the rear, could you also do to the front? I know the Shoe Box type hulls its much harder to do.
Just wondering for my XL... I want the Front and Rear Capped...

[WILDMAN]

I capped my yellow 25 Liberator all the way around. It would probably take two weeks. It's a very tedious job

[Baja170]

Man that Talon is going to be WICKED! I like simple paint jobs to this point, but I really like what you have done to this one Randy. Nice work!!!!

[mikesufka]

Lookin' good !!! Any idea when you'll be done and lake testing ? Very curious on final package look and numbers. Great job.

MDS

[diernosaj]

Can't wait for the video of the lake test.

[F14]

Randy in your opinion how difficult would it be to "Cap" the entire boat? just as you did to the rear, could you also do to the front? I know the Shoe Box type hulls its much harder to do.
Just wondering for my XL... I want the Front and Rear Capped...

It would probably be better to have Todd do it when he makes it.

[sxpilot]

I figured it was time consuming job, just didn't know how it would look being a shoe box hull?

[Spectre Powerboats]

We have capped a lot of the fiberglass race boats that were shoe boxed and done a lot of butt fit boats like Skaters, Motions, Spectre's. The butt fit are time consuming,but the shoe box is a ton of time. Here are pictures of an F1 we did last year.

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[Spectre Powerboats]

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[Spectre Powerboats]

This is as fancy as my paint jobs get. You want anything more you have to go to Randy. :D

[sxpilot]

This is as fancy as my paint jobs get. You want anything more you have to go to Randy. :D
I'm liking it!!!
would love to have a F1 Team...and a few million to play

[Hydrogasm]

Randy
No posts in almost a week. Any new photos for us to drool over?
Thanks
Gary

[WILDMAN]

Well, the difference between the fresh paint and sanded and buffed paint is hard to see in pics, so I didn't take any. I did the final buff today and buffed out the dash and console. I will put it back on the trailer tomorrow and post more pics then.

[Jamescole]

Well, the difference between the fresh paint and sanded and buffed paint is hard to see in pics, so I didn't take any. I did the final buff today and buffed out the dash and console. I will put it back on the trailer tomorrow and post more pics then.

whats the ETA on a 300xs for this thing?

[WILDMAN]

I already have all the rigging and motor for the boat. I just waxed it and got it on the trailer today. More pics and a video tonight when I get home!

[WILDMAN]

OK, finally got the boat all buffed and waxed. I put it back on the trailer today. I'll be posting a video later.

[WILDMAN]

VIDEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfXpKfPjDz0

[Corona Mike]

That Is One Beautiful Boat Randy!! When You Walk Around It And The Sun Hits The Red!! Man That Is NICE!

[Dave Strong]

I like it alot, beautiful. ;)

Dave :)

[MIKEBRLS]

Looooooooking great :)

[Spectre Powerboats]

Absolutely Amazing!! Your work is un-real Randy. Thank you for helping revive the Talon boats with me.

[pointer]

Beautiful!

pointer

[Sunburnt]

Spectacular!

[AZMIDLYF]

Speechless on the way that thing pops in the sun!!

[WILDMAN]

More pics

[WILDMAN]

Even more pics. The flake doesn't show up as good as it does in person

[WILDMAN]

Last of pics for now

[jpf091959]

Wow Randy, you should be very proud of what you have created. That thing is going to look great on the water for many years.

[Dave Strong]

Love how the transom turned out. :D

Dave :)

[Zero Patience]

Excellent work, you are very talented.

[noli]

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Beautiful!

Can't wait to see how you design the interior seating and colors

[J.P.]

Fine looking paint job, you do not f-around,..You Get'r Done.

[TooStroked]

Just plain drop dead stunning. Man that thing looks killer! Nice work Randy!

[custom1skier]

Nice! I bet these pix and vid do not do this justice. It's hard to pick up on all that flake and the details with a camera

[David Borg]

Love it , perfect mix of colors .You are really talented.

[MIKEBRLS]

Slight chance but do you think this would fit into a 19x19 garage catty cornered on wheel dolly's ?

[Dave Strong]

Slight chance but do you think this would fit into a 19x19 garage catty cornered on wheel dolly's ?

Not a chance.JMO

Dave

[Baja170]

Maybe but my Cougar 22 MTR is 29 foot from trailer ball to prop. My problem too. Only my heated garage is longer than 25' deep. I am limited to 21' V bottom boats in my other garages since they are only 25 feet deep. My Mirage fits well. The 21' boats are a squeeze fitting two into two 10x25 deep bays in a double garage.

If that is all you have in the garage it might make it taking up both bays but not sure. Plan on 30 feet and about 8.2+ wide for the trailer if it is anything like the Cougar.

If you have a single garage 19x19 I doubt it would fit just like Dave is saying. Very doubtful.

[Dave Strong]

Yup the BAJA is 18'6 and has a short tongue on the trailer, with a 225PM and 4" jack plate 24' works. The Cougar with 8" setback a BP is 2' longer.

Dave

[WILDMAN]

Total length on trailer, with motor is about 29ft. I suppose you could cut it in half and put half on each side!

[Dave Strong]

Total length on trailer, with motor is about 29ft. I suppose you could cut it in half and put half on each side!

LMFAO :thumbsup::thumbsup: I was going to say at least 28' but 29' makes sense, setback + motor+ trailer tongue.


Dave:)

[hometown45]

If you can afford the boat, you can afford to build the right garage.

[MIKEBRLS]

Total length on trailer, with motor is about 29ft. I suppose you could cut it in half and put half on each side!

Ok , I will take 2 half's :)

[Dave Strong]

Ok , I will take 2 half's :)

You know what they say? Two halfs make a whole. ;) Nice thought but never fit. :)

Dave :cheers:

[Dave Strong]

So Randy, what are you planning for fuel tanks? As we get back on track. ;)

Dave :)

[WILDMAN]

It has a single 38 gallon tank. You can get twin side tanks, but they are kinda pricey!

[Dave Strong]

It has a single 38 gallon tank. You can get twin side tanks, but they are kinda pricey!

38gal with a 300XS is some good distance. :thumbsup:


Dave :)

[stevo18]

super good job on the boat can't wait to see final result!!!
just WOW!!! AMAZING
keep up the great work

freezing up north boy
steve

[Baja170]

You could always get the foldable trailer tongue but is will only take off about 2-3'

Boat is looking sweet Randy. Can't wait to see it rigged.

[Scream And Fly]

I am getting itchy to photograph this Talon so badly! Amazing work!

[custom1skier]

Any updates, Randy?

[LoriGill]

Will you be rigging using your standard automotive grade wiring, or will you be using approved marine grade wiring?

[WILDMAN]

Yes!!

[F14]

Its not his first rodeo LoriGill. :cheers:

[WILDMAN]

No updates. I have several boats that are sold and I've been busy rigging them. I'll get back on the Talon after Easter. I've had 4-5 out of state people stop by in the last week to look at the Talon. All interest has been very positive!

[WILDMAN]

This guy is just some moron that posts every couple months about my wiring. I have no idea who it is, but he keeps popping up under new screen names. Notice that he's a one post wonder who joined two days ago! Probably some little crybaby that owns a Gayliner bowrider! Notice he claims to be from Swingerville KY. I just Googled it and it's a Gay porn site. NO, I'M NOT KIDDING! Look it up!



Its not his first rodeo LoriGill. :cheers:

[Dave Strong]

This guy is just some moron that posts every couple months about my wiring. I have no idea who it is, but he keeps popping up under new screen names. Notice that he's a one post wonder who joined two days ago! Probably some little crybaby that owns a Gayliner bowrider! Notice he claims to be from Swingerville KY. I just Googled it and it's a Gay porn site. NO, I'M NOT KIDDING! Look it up!

HA ha ha.
Some people have no idea what it takes and how long it takes. :rolleyes:
Look forward to the updates when they come. ;)

Dave :)

[hydroo]

Swingerville KY! LMFAO
Randy Is a great guy and master rigger/ painter. I can't believe you have an enemy???

[WILDMAN]

I did an IP search. His name is J Gimino. He may be from the checkmate forums.

[mikesufka]

I did an IP search. His name is J Gimino. He may be from the checkmate forums.

What a douche - do you know him?

[WILDMAN]

The last name sounds familiar, but I can't recall from where. (YET)

[Baja170]

Swingerville KY! LMFAO
Randy Is a great guy and master rigger/ painter. I can't believe you have an enemy???



No kidding. All the work I have seen that Randy did looks GREAT. I could live with a boat he rigged I bet. Tux does some AWESOME rigging as well. Either one of those guys I would love to rig a boat for me someday.

You know Greg can block the guys IP(s) fairly easily and pretty thoroughly. Greg if you read this, I can give you a pointer to help with this problem that maybe you have not thought about.

[Trent Ashby]

Oh HELL NO we don't allow that stuff in Kentucky. LORIGILL will be kicked out immediately!

[Baja170]

Oh HELL NO we don't allow that stuff in Kentucky. LORIGILL will be kicked out immediately!

Well, since I own 8 acres and a place in KY, I would have to say, only with immediate family. ;)

Love my Kentucky home.

[apexfx]

update?

[WILDMAN]

I've got three new boats that are sold. I'm trying to finish them up. m I'll try to get back on the Talon next week.

[panther150]

I think this will be your most watched " first ride video" ever Randy.

[apexfx]

cant wait

[JPEROG]

He has an STV that needs to painted and rigged somewhere in this bunch as well---Its a tough world being in such demand but when you're good....

Joe

[Dave Strong]

He has an STV that needs to painted and rigged somewhere in this bunch as well---Its a tough world being in such demand but when you're good....

Joe

Your better post pictures. ;)

Dave:[

[AZMIDLYF]

I would like to see pics of all the projects JPEROG has going. :eek:

[baja200merk]

He has an STV that needs to painted and rigged somewhere in this bunch as well---Its a tough world being in such demand but when you're good....

Joe

Randy dont forget to put the STD on those new scales you got. Since hes gonna whoop my 24 I need to know what im up against :eek:

[JPEROG]

Randy dont forget to put the STD on those new scales you got. Since hes gonna whoop my 24 I need to know what im up against :eek:

Kev,

None of my stuff is race-all gentleman's performance at best. Its just a gonna be a 20 something year old lake boat with an average motor, new seats, a porta bracket and maybe a decent prop. But it will look good....

Joe

[JPEROG]

I would like to see pics of all the projects JPEROG has going. :eek:

That's all they are-projects....nothing too special. Anyone that knows me has seen this pattern for the last 35 years (boats, bikes, sleds, and racing). Since moving to Florida ten years ago at least the snowmobile stuff is all in the past (I had little love affair with the sleds and ice bikes that lasted about 25 years). I have never posted a picture on here but I can do a video and post the link the next time we take the little Doug Wright edition whaler out for a blast.

Joe

[JPEROG]

Your better post pictures. ;)

Dave:[

I don't think that he likes to admit that he works on my old junk- I am very lucky to have Randy as a friend, maybe he will post some pictures of the STV as he completes it.

Joe

[Dave Strong]

I don't think that he likes to admit that he works on my old junk- I am very lucky to have Randy as a friend, maybe he will post some pictures of the STV as he completes it.

Joe

Old junk new junk Randy does good work, maybe even polish a turd. No offense buddy , it will look great. ;)

Dave :)

[JerseyChris]

Since moving to Florida ten years ago at least the snowmobile stuff is all in the past (I had little love affair with the sleds and ice bikes that lasted about 25 years).

Joe

Hey Joe, Sleds are my winter fun.. Where were you from before Fla?

[JPEROG]

Hey Joe, Sleds are my winter fun.. Where were you from before Fla?

Grand Haven Michigan but we were either up in Cadillac or in the upper peninsula every weekend that there was snow. I still go out to Togwotee WY. once a year to get my fix. I moved down here in 06' and had just built a turbo RX1 with Jeff Simmons (it was a weapon)-before that we were running cats with Hooper motors and Polaris stuff from Rob Shouping at HTG. New trail sleds every year was part of the season change and we went to Haydays and did the MSDRA races every year which only turned up the fall fever. The ice bikes and drag sleds were also a big part of my world. The weather inconsistency was part of reason I chose to make the move and I have no regrets.

Joe

[WILDMAN]

Been swamped at work. I got three new boats and one used one sold in the last few weeks. Finally did some work on the Talon today. Made the side combing and front bulkhead templates for the upholstery shop to make prototype patterns for all future 22 Talons. PPI Interiors in Sarasota will be making the interiors. They did the custom interiors for my 25 and 30ft Liberators.

[mikesufka]

It's maybe been asked earlier in this thread, but what's a new Talon 22 with a 300XS cost? Would $60,000 do it?

MDS

[WILDMAN]

You may get an all white one without all the extras for that .They will be $8 to $10,000 more than a 21 liberator Rigged the same

[mikesufka]

So $70,000 would be a pretty trick one with a single? And add ~ $30,000 for the deeper twin version?

MDS

[baja200merk]

You may get an all white one without all the extras for that .They will be $8 to $10,000 more than a 21 liberator Rigged the same
What about one with BIG METAL FLAKE :eek: :leaving:

[WILDMAN]

Big flake has to be done in the gelcoat and I don't think Todd wants to do that. This One will be about $70,000. It will have power steering and all the good stuff on it. The interiors on these boats won't be cheap either. There's an awful lot of work in this boat

[YmeLord]

Someone define BIG FLAKE to me ...

If not a secret .. Randy can you share what size flake this has on the red?

BTW ... I've quietly followed this post for a while now ... ONE BEAUTIFUL TALON. Love the colors .. scheme ... everything about it. Very talented.

[WILDMAN]

Big flake is what is in the gelcoat on a new boat. The flake that I spray through a spraygun is called micro sequins

[YmeLord]

Thanks Randy.

[WILDMAN]

I took the boat to PPI Interiors this week to get the new interiors prototyped.

[apexfx]

any updates

[WILDMAN]

NO. PPI always takes a while.

[AZMIDLYF]

Any news?

[WILDMAN]

Nope! Still sitting at PPI interiors. They haven't done squat on it! They originally told me 3-4 weeks. Maybe I'll get it back by Christmas!

[mattconrad]

Cannot wait to see the interior!

[stokernick]

Nope! Still sitting at PPI interiors. They haven't done squat on it! They originally told me 3-4 weeks. Maybe I'll get it back by Christmas!

doesn't sound like an endorsement for the future!

[Dave Strong]

doesn't sound like an endorsement for the future!


They better do a mind blowing job. ;):D

Dave :)

[MeCapnDave]

Randy, any word from PPI ? Are they still in business?

[WILDMAN]

They tell me they are working on it!

[MeCapnDave]

they tell me they are working on it!
it better be a masterpiece !!! And you better get it free !!!

[AZMIDLYF]

Took less time to build and paint. :eek:

[WILDMAN]

Believe it or not, I am finally getting the Talon back from the interior shop next week! Gonna drop off the TUFF 28 so they can do the interior on it. Hopefully it will go faster.

[unknown1]

Subscribed as I want to see the rigging on this boat. Curious as to how the electrical system will be designed. I just bought a new to me boat and I think the wiring was done wrong so I want to redesign it and add in circuit breakers.

[boaterok]

At this rate with the interior people you can maybe get one boat a year built. I don't care how good they are or cheap somebody else deserves your and everybody elses business.

[Spectre Powerboats]

At this rate with the interior people you can maybe get one boat a year built. I don't care how good they are or cheap somebody else deserves your and everybody elses business.

PPI builds our custom interiors in 30 days. We have received some already and have several more on order. Please do not put them down as they are great people and there are always two sides to the story. Thank you Todd

[boaterok]

PPI builds our custom interiors in 30 days. We have received some already and have several more on order. Please do not put them down as they are great people and there are always two sides to the story. Thank you Todd

Sorry about that! I forgot my golden rule (don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.

[JCSmile]

PPI builds our custom interiors in 30 days. We have received some already and have several more on order. Please do not put them down as they are great people and there are always two sides to the story. Thank you Todd

Unfortunately one of the sides to this story is that it took them 6 months to do interior on a 22 foot boat.

[Z06man]

They are good once they have pattern but super slow on a single boat .

[WILDMAN]

Unfortunately, my boat was used as the pattern for the Screamin Eagle boats. My pattern is a different design. Notice the rear sundeck and the rear seat has curved ends.

[AZMIDLYF]

Well worth the wait!! :eek: :cheers:

[Ing]

That sun pad is awesome! That was always my complaint with my Talon is the glass deck was a total waste of useful space. I also added twin Dana Marine billet swim steps that made reboarding the boat a breeze. Another master work of art in motion.

[WILDMAN]

this one will also have swim steps

[oldschoolltv]

Wow!!

[J.P.]

Looks really good.

[Zukiride]

That is sweet!!! wow!! can't wait to see it finished . . . great work!!

[boaterok]

Ive been following this thread for a while till I got my letter today and my Blue Cross Blue Shield insurance is going up starting in January from $1550 per month to $2750. I am sure everyone elses will go up also I wonder how this will effect all businesses along with the boat building industry? Good thing to think about come Nov. 8th

[Tango]

I just want to say this thread has been the best use of my time in days! I have learned SO MUCH and now I want to completely strip my Eliminator Daytona to start over!! Randy, how much lead time do you need for paint work?

[WILDMAN]

Well, after 5 months at the interior shop, I'm finally getting back to rigging the Talon. I took it to the shop today. I painted the rear in gray Awlgrip and under the dash with black Awlgrip. Here's a pic of the interior, but it's still all wrapped up in bubble wrap. I'll start rigging tomorrow. It should take about 3 weeks. HERE WE GO !!

[oldschoolltv]

Nice!!!!!!!

[Velocity72]

Beautiful, Randy. Can't wait to see the interior.

[AZMIDLYF]

Much anticipated boat for sure. :cheers:

Good weather for numbers on the way too. :D

[JPEROG]

Ive been following this thread for a while till I got my letter today and my Blue Cross Blue Shield insurance is going up starting in January from $1550 per month to $2750. I am sure everyone elses will go up also I wonder how this will effect all businesses along with the boat building industry? Good thing to think about come Nov. 8th

The government is here to help......Hopefully the new crew will get us back on a better course-
Joe

[jpf091959]

I forgot how nice that boat looks and how well you accented the lines.

Great colors and design, it will be nice to see it on the water.

[WILDMAN]

I got everything put into the dash and console. The red is all red marble

[WILDMAN]

I got the jackplate on this afternoon. I covered all the sides of the boat with a gray trunk liner material. It makes everything look very "clean"

[MODVP22]

I got the jackplate on this afternoon. I covered all the sides of the boat with a gray trunk liner material. It makes everything look very "clean"

I really like your trunk liner, good idea. Carpet in those areas looks fine and all, but if it gets wet ya gotta leave it dry out and hope for no mildew.

I'm curious about the Awgrip. I know you use it a lot, how is it to work with as far as clean up, etc? Do you spray it or roll/brush it?

[WILDMAN]

I roll and brush the Awlgrip. You need to use the "brush" catalyst though. One coat usually covers but I used red once and it took 3 coats. I have sprayed it on motors and gearcases and it comes out well if you know how to spray. I sprayed it once in a rear area and what a mess! It is too close cornered to spray without running, doesn't cover as well, and the overspray sticks to everything! You better make sure you have the boat covered airtight! I've been using the trunk liner material for years on the ceilings under the dash and I first used it on the sides of the 30 Liberator. It gives a very clean look without adding a lot of weight.

[AZMIDLYF]

Manual Jack Plate? Is it to save weight? Did you color match it or powder coat?

[WILDMAN]

I never use a hydraulic plate on a cat. There is no need for it unless you want to water ski or tube. It is powdercoated red.

[AZMIDLYF]

:thumbsup:

[panther150]

Nice work Randy!

[V-bottom]

Looks really good. It looks like the jackplate has Allen head cap bolts instead of hex head bolts? is that how they come from Hydro Dynamics now or did you change for looks.

[WILDMAN]

I changed them.


Looks really good. It looks like the jackplate has Allen head cap bolts instead of hex head bolts? is that how they come from Hydro Dynamics now or did you change for looks.

[Cpines]

Randy, love your rigging. It is a work of art. I want another and bigger boat. Your build posts are the best form of salesmanship I've ever seen.

[JPEROG]

I never use a hydraulic plate on a cat. There is no need for it unless you want to water ski or tube. It is powdercoated red.

You can't run a single engine true cat without one-
Joe

[WILDMAN]

Actually that is true. My 21 liberators have a center pod so I don't need a hydraulic jack plate but true cats like skaters do need them.



QUOTE=JPEROG;2909197]You can't run a single engine true cat without one-
Joe[/QUOTE]

[Mr. Demeanor]

Randy which truck bed liner material are you liking? Ive used the rattle can stuff exposed to salt water with great results. Did the transom plate on my Fountain, a jackplate, and brand new axles on my trailer. The kits look like better quality though.

[WILDMAN]

The trunk liner is a soft fabric not a spray on. Kind of like the fabric you see on speaker enclosures but thicker

[Mr. Demeanor]

Geez I read trunk and truck..... :leaving:

[WILDMAN]

I have the dash and motor all wired now. I hung the motor yesterday and decided that the custom Jackplate had too much "tuck" under. I wasn't sure that it would trim high enough with a standard motor. I already had the motor all rigged up before I decided to change out the jackplate. I also made a fiberglass subwoofer box. I glassed it to the backside of the front bulkhead. It sounds so much better when the sub is in an enclosure. I also got all the power steering hooked up. Here's a pic of the pump.

[oldschoolltv]

It all about that base, looking good.

[WILDMAN]

I finally the the boat all wired up except for the stereo system. Power steering is all in and bled. I put in the gas tank and electric hatch lift today. The underside of the hatch is covered with trunk liner. There will be an upholstered sundeck on top. I'll work on getting the interior installed and fire up the motor this week. The only thing I'm waiting on is the rub rail

[V-bottom]

Randy, what type of product did you use to attach the trunk liner material to the hatch?

[WILDMAN]

contact cement

[Velocity72]

Tank size? looking great.