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bernie
04-08-2020, 07:23 PM
Yup. Mercury Hi-Perf 1970's...
My version of the Bill Petty designed outboard trim that used the standard vertical cylinders in a more horizontal position. Again you lose the tilt fuction but on my Switzer Shooting Star I don't tilt the motor anyway.462628462629

FUJIMO
04-08-2020, 07:44 PM
yup, they were plumbed opposite of factory, as used on a factory inline pleasure motor. they were available in a 3/4 diameter shaft, or a 1'' diameter shaft. different seal kits of course. back in the day, before trim was common, people jerry-rigged them to use on a few different things. trimless volvo outdrives come to mind. bracketry was made for them as well, utilizing the merc o/b cylinders.

25ss
04-09-2020, 02:23 AM
When i cut my mid down to 12 inch had to remove the trim mounting pin from the swivel.
Rigged up a internal with a single standard ram.
With just the one ram it is faster with 12volts
Had to limit the travel in and out but worked great.
Dale

bernie
04-09-2020, 08:32 AM
My version of the Bill Petty designed outboard trim that used the standard vertical cylinders in a more horizontal position. Again you lose the tilt fuction but on my Switzer Shooting Star I don't tilt the motor anyway.462628462629

Just noticed this this AM - on the BP's on the Merc poster of the Havasu boat - Petty Brackets! No cylinders though.462678

FUJIMO
04-09-2020, 09:41 AM
...There were a handful of racers making their own versions back then...not just Petty and Merc...https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=462678&d=1586439161

WaterZebra
04-09-2020, 10:38 AM
When i cut my mid down to 12 inch had to remove the trim mounting pin from the swivel.
Rigged up a internal with a single standard ram.
With just the one ram it is faster with 12volts
Had to limit the travel in and out but worked great.
Dale

I saw a lot of these trim set ups in Sport J. How did you attach the ram to the swivel bracket casting? Weldment? Interesting side note: we took production trim rams and cut off the offset knuckle to use on T2s and Champ mid sections rather than using Merc HP rams. You had to watch the plumbing hook ups though. If you were in a hurry and got it backwards, it would bleed "in" under power. I learned this the hard way in Sport J and barrel rolled in a turn (LOL).

FUJIMO
04-09-2020, 10:47 AM
http://static-41.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/63f2a52c-b3f1-4479-81e5-ae3e23d23be6-large16x9_MercuryMarineFireFSMAP101817.png

FUJIMO
04-09-2020, 11:22 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/94/18/21/941821e795a8eb240cdca2aa9bebdd2d--pontoon-stuff-boundary-waters.jpg

bernie
04-09-2020, 11:35 AM
http://static-41.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/63f2a52c-b3f1-4479-81e5-ae3e23d23be6-large16x9_MercuryMarineFireFSMAP101817.png
I can see my house from here!

FUJIMO
04-09-2020, 11:44 AM
we all can bernardo. cut the grass when you get home from Englewood.

FUJIMO
04-09-2020, 08:20 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-8.663/full?d=1203307523

WaterZebra
04-10-2020, 10:16 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-7.662/full?d=1203307522
I have that gauge and switch set new in the box somewhere in my barn? Definitely the way to go until they integrated the switches with the throttle and shift lever. Did the trim indicator gauge work with outboard PT? I never used the gauge with outboards...…...far too easy to just look back at the engine.

FUJIMO
04-10-2020, 11:23 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/vintage-donzi-3.666/full?d=1203395179

FUJIMO
04-10-2020, 11:32 AM
I have that gauge and switch set new in the box somewhere in my barn? Definitely the way to go until they integrated the switches with the throttle and shift lever. Did the trim indicator gauge work with outboard PT? I never used the gauge with outboards...…...far too easy to just look back at the engine.
yes they did. and many were in use back then with this same trim button arrangement. but...although the trim gauges at a glance looked identical, there was a gauge for outboards, and a gauge for sterndrives. different part numbers. many times the part numbers were labeled/visible on the backsides of the gauges for reference. get the part number off the gauge you have, if still there, and attempt to research it as an o/b or an I/o trim gauge on the internet. the three button trim panels were the same for o/b and I/o.

FUJIMO
04-10-2020, 11:43 AM
http://www.screamandfly.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_0767.JPG

FUJIMO
04-10-2020, 12:32 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/vintage-donzi-1.664/full?d=1203307654

FUJIMO
04-10-2020, 01:29 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/vintage-donzi-2.665/full?d=1203307654

FUJIMO
04-10-2020, 02:06 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-9.668/full?d=1203387484

FUJIMO
04-10-2020, 07:26 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-11.671/full?d=1203647371

25ss
04-11-2020, 12:16 AM
I was able to connect the ram end with thick aluminum plates bolted from the outside of the swivel.
And yes you have to reverse the the pump lines to avoid bleed down found that out also.
Dale

25ss
04-11-2020, 12:19 AM
Speaking of trim indicators this has has to be a rare one.
Early twin IO.
Dale

FUJIMO
04-11-2020, 12:29 PM
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=462846&d=1529388229 (https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=462846&d=1529388229)

FUJIMO
04-11-2020, 12:55 PM
...This is a photo of the Mercury Power Trim Cylinders in conversation above. Note that the engine is fully trimmed/tilted up, yet the cylinders are fully retracted...https://f01.justanswer.com/Ti5dZu6x/IMG_2470.JPG

FUJIMO
04-11-2020, 12:56 PM
https://f01.justanswer.com/U5uTaIbS/IMG_2469.JPG

FUJIMO
04-11-2020, 12:58 PM
...this is a photo of this trim system with the engine completely trimmed in, or in the down position...https://bpi.ebasicpower.com/c/OB-MERTRIM/graphics/00000001/MercruiserOlderTrim.jpg

FUJIMO
04-11-2020, 01:03 PM
...these photo's demonstrate that this trim geometry "retracted" its hydraulic trim cylinders to trim the outboard up & out...opposite of what one would think...and therefore the need to change porting on these cylinders, if used in a different application...https://bpi.ebasicpower.com/c/OB-MERTRIM/graphics/00000001/MercruiserOlderTrim.jpg

Robby321
04-11-2020, 03:29 PM
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FUJIMO
04-12-2020, 10:59 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-12.672/full?d=1203647372

FUJIMO
04-12-2020, 11:11 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-10.667/full?d=1203387482

FUJIMO
04-12-2020, 11:36 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-13.673/full?d=1203787607

FUJIMO
04-12-2020, 05:49 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-14.674/full?d=1203787608

FUJIMO
04-12-2020, 07:00 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-18.678/full?d=1203992259

FUJIMO
04-12-2020, 07:48 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-19.679/full?d=1204070676

FUJIMO
04-12-2020, 08:21 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-20.680/full?d=1204070677

JPEROG
04-12-2020, 09:41 PM
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I have a few of these--https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercury-outboard-motor-BP-1250-Super-with-racing-pipes-vintage-image-t-shirt/202962064156?hash=item2f417b531c:g:1VMAAOSwtPdc~-IJ

Joe

Robby321
04-12-2020, 10:16 PM
I have a few of these--https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercury-outboard-motor-BP-1250-Super-with-racing-pipes-vintage-image-t-shirt/202962064156?hash=item2f417b531c:g:1VMAAOSwtPdc~-IJ

Joe

Friend mine gave me one of these on a T Shirt
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FUJIMO
04-13-2020, 08:24 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-21.684/full?d=1204160603

FUJIMO
04-13-2020, 10:39 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-22.685/full?d=1204160604

FUJIMO
04-13-2020, 02:10 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-page-23.692/full?d=1204250700

FUJIMO
04-13-2020, 02:10 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1970-mercruiser-brochure-back-cover.693/full?d=1204250705

FUJIMO
04-13-2020, 02:13 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1994-checkmate-pulsare.1008/full?d=1215130933

FUJIMO
04-14-2020, 08:28 AM
...1965 Mercury Outboard Brochure...https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-back-cover.2166/full?d=1244768270

FUJIMO
04-14-2020, 12:10 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-cover.2125/full?d=1241393804

Robby321
04-16-2020, 03:29 PM
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FUJIMO
04-16-2020, 05:55 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-2.2126/full?d=1241393805

FUJIMO
04-16-2020, 07:23 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-16.2162/full?d=1243390345

Mark75H
04-17-2020, 07:43 AM
There it is in print "Lake X drivers are troublemakers ... "

bernie
04-17-2020, 08:37 AM
Gee, wonder where that big sandbar is on the Lake - never found one there to jump over -

FUJIMO
04-17-2020, 11:09 AM
Gee, wonder where that big sandbar is on the Lake - never found one there to jump over -...You could say where it is, but then you'd have to kill us, right? (troublemaker;))

FUJIMO
04-17-2020, 12:53 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-3.2127/full?d=1241652703

FUJIMO
04-18-2020, 10:36 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-17.2163/full?d=1243390345

FUJIMO
04-20-2020, 09:48 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-18.2164/full?d=1243565200

FUJIMO
04-20-2020, 11:09 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-19.2165/full?d=1243565201

FUJIMO
04-20-2020, 01:37 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-15.2158/full?d=1242954961

FUJIMO
04-20-2020, 02:41 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-14.2157/full?d=1242954960

FUJIMO
04-20-2020, 03:29 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-13.2156/full?d=1242871258

GENE LANHAM
04-20-2020, 04:15 PM
Doc told Gary—

I want the best BLACK MAX guy you’ve got——
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FUJIMO
04-20-2020, 04:30 PM
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=463637&d=1587417290

willabee
04-20-2020, 05:18 PM
Doc told Gary—

I want the best BLACK MAX guy you’ve got——
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..... :thumbsup: and he got him, Rick LaMore standing behind the two drivers.

FUJIMO
04-20-2020, 06:01 PM
Rick also happened to have the physical strength that was needed to swap out the power, if need be, on that trip...not just the mechanical knowledge of Mercury power he knew...:thumbsup:

FUJIMO
04-20-2020, 07:27 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-12.2155/full?d=1242871208

willabee
04-21-2020, 09:25 AM
Rick also happened to have the physical strength that was needed to swap out the power, if need be, on that trip...not just the mechanical knowledge of Mercury power he knew...:thumbsup:

Sounds like Rick, did you ever have the opportunity to meet The Big Kahuna? :)

FUJIMO
04-22-2020, 12:39 PM
Sounds like Rick, did you ever have the opportunity to meet The Big Kahuna? :)
yes. mercury outboard/sterndrive related and offshore boat stuff. innovation marine. etc. died too young as usual.

willabee
04-22-2020, 01:30 PM
yes. mercury outboard/sterndrive related and offshore boat stuff. innovation marine. etc. died too young as usual.

He sure did, no one saw that coming. You were with Merc at the time?

Bob V
04-23-2020, 06:36 AM
...No sir... I was at the o.e.m. level, (but not always)designing & building things that were pointy in the front & flat in the back, out of plastic. I'm sure I've spent a couple million or more, on new Merc Hi-Perf product alone though...not to mention the $ on regular Merc product. We'll leave it at that.:smiletest:

OK Willabee...There is your clue. "...Building things that were pointy in the front & flat in the back, out of plastic."

Figure that out and you can finally pull the veil off the one known only to us as "Fujimo."

But as the saying goes..."Some doors are better left unopened."

bernie
04-23-2020, 07:54 AM
OK Willabee...There is your clue. "...Building things that were pointy in the front & flat in the back, out of plastic."

Figure that out and you can finally pull the veil off the one known only to us as "Fujimo."

But as the saying goes..."Some doors are better left unopened."

And the clues continue - lets see, was a FL OEM, used a lot of Merc Hi Perf stuff, apparently knew me when I was an OEM rep down in the swamps, liked us enough to post photos that no one else has access to - knows who JFL is. Why not come out of your closet and stop pissin' us off?

FUJIMO
04-23-2020, 10:23 AM
But as the saying goes..."Some doors are better left unopened."
...:iagree:...

FUJIMO
04-23-2020, 10:26 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-11.2154/full?d=1242785356

willabee
04-23-2020, 02:02 PM
OK Willabee...There is your clue. "...Building things that were pointy in the front & flat in the back, out of plastic."

Figure that out and you can finally pull the veil off the one known only to us as "Fujimo."

But as the saying goes..."Some doors are better left unopened."

Moi? .....Moi? You're insinuating that I had some dubious reason for asking Fujimo a couple of harmless questions. Non, Non .... I was just making polite conversation. By the way, I hope you're not buying into his response. After all, who spends his entire career trying to build a better plastic pencil (pointy on one end, flat on the other)?

Bob V
04-23-2020, 02:26 PM
Moi? .....Moi? You're insinuating that I had some dubious reason for asking Fujimo a couple of harmless questions. Non, Non .... I was just making polite conversation.

No, the thought never crossed my mind...!!

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willabee
04-23-2020, 05:16 PM
No, the thought never crossed my mind...!! .....


https://www.screamandfly.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by FUJIMO https://www.screamandfly.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?p=3202612#post3202612)
...No sir... I was at the o.e.m. level, (but not always)designing & building things that were pointy in the front & flat in the back, out of plastic. I'm sure I've spent a couple million or more, on new Merc Hi-Perf product alone though...not to mention the $ on regular Merc product. We'll leave it at that.:smiletest:


Back in 72 there was some sh-t going on within the Racing Department that I did not like. My position with the company didn't give me enough authority to make the changes that I felt were needed. Reluctantly, after a hell of a lot of thought, I decided to call it a day. I met with Gary Garbrecht, Director of Racing, to inform him of my decision.
Gary always knew what what was coming up, he had an amazing knack for being with the right folks at the right time. In our meeting he informed me that, in about a year, Merc was starting a Hi Performance Products Dept. He said I had been tagged to be the head of this addition and asked me to stay. Obviously a promotion, but more importantly, got me out of that environment and allowed me to keep doing what I really enjoyed, I said okay.
I mention all of this because I'm curious to know who you dealt with when you ordered product from Hi Perf. and how that whole experience worked for you. It was probably way after me, but Hi Perf was kinda my baby, wanted you to understand why I have an interest in this.

FUJIMO
04-23-2020, 08:40 PM
Mike Goerlitz passed away back in 2013 if I recall. Jimmy you will have to update me on. There were some Mike's, and a Dennis. Dennis...what can I say, a great guy & died in a stupid way. A few in FDL & Oshkosh which the memory has taken. There was a Fred & a Dick...who was later taken over by his son Kevin, & a Don, not to mention some good people on Peachtree Industrial Blvd & St. Cloud Distribution as well as the lake. Everyone on the huge Mercury Team, no matter what they did, finance, sales, or nuts & bolts, were all the best at what they did & were just plain good people.

FUJIMO
04-23-2020, 08:44 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-10.2153/full?d=1242785355

FUJIMO
04-23-2020, 09:07 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-8.2148/full?d=1242353822

Mark75H
04-24-2020, 06:38 AM
I can hear the water slapping the bottom of the boat

willabee
04-24-2020, 09:46 AM
Mike Goerlitz passed away back in 2013 if I recall. Jimmy you will have to update me on. There were some Mike's, and a Dennis. Dennis...what can I say, a great guy & died in a stupid way. A few in FDL & Oshkosh which the memory has taken. There was a Fred & a Dick...who was later taken over by his son Kevin, & a Don, not to mention some good people on Peachtree Industrial Blvd & St. Cloud Distribution as well as the lake. Everyone on the huge Mercury Team, no matter what they did, finance, sales, or nuts & bolts, were all the best at what they did & were just plain good people.

Those names put you near the beginning of Hi Perf. I don't recall exactly when Mike passed, but 2013 sounds about right. He left Merc for a tour at Second Effort. I don't know about Jimmer, seems he came to my sister's funeral in Oshkosh a few years back. You might be thinking about Dennis Cavanaugh, he died after falling down some stairs. Lastly, I totally agree that there were a number of good people at Mercury.

FUJIMO
04-24-2020, 11:14 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-9.2147/full?d=1242353734

WaterZebra
04-24-2020, 12:30 PM
Mike Goerlitz passed away back in 2013 if I recall. Jimmy you will have to update me on. There were some Mike's, and a Dennis. Dennis...what can I say, a great guy & died in a stupid way. A few in FDL & Oshkosh which the memory has taken. There was a Fred & a Dick...who was later taken over by his son Kevin, & a Don, not to mention some good people on Peachtree Industrial Blvd & St. Cloud Distribution as well as the lake. Everyone on the huge Mercury Team, no matter what they did, finance, sales, or nuts & bolts, were all the best at what they did & were just plain good people.

Boeing used to be like Mercury. Now look. The succession of clowns taking the wheel of CEO never ends. We used to MAKE everything on site including some exotic fasteners. Now they sub-out nearly all of it.

FUJIMO
04-24-2020, 01:34 PM
Flashback. Gary Baltz. Another good guy. And the other Fred too. Hauenstein.

FUJIMO
04-24-2020, 01:40 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-7.2146/full?d=1242261721

Onetime
04-24-2020, 05:16 PM
Fred Hauenstein, great guy. Since we all have a lot of time on our hands I’ll tell a story as best I can remember it.

1996 Fred was the president of Mercury Racing also the president of APBA. Kilo record runs were held in Northern California and we were attempting to break the Offshore C class record in a race 28 Skater. Fred was there in APBA capacity to certify the times and speeds.

The boat was Paul Whittier’s old Secret Agent boat that he had sold to Bryan Darling. Bryan renamed the boat Xplosive.

We had attempted the record the prior yer with Paul when he owned the boat. Paul went around 122 on the first pass and we knew the record was going to be shattered on the back up pass as the existing record was around 100. Unfortunately the left gearcase blew on the turn around for the run. I had my 24 Skater there and was prepared to rob anything from my boat for parts if needed. Never foresaw the need to build a gearcase there so didn’t bring any lower unit tools. The boat had the relatively new factory 15” midsections. My 24 had 20” midsections so couldn’t use my lower unless the 15” driveshaft was installed. No lower unit tools so we were done.

Paul sold the boat to Bryan that winter. Bryan with his friend and co owner in the boat John Pace were campaigning the boat in the POPBRA Offshore series on the west coast. It took a lot of convincing but managed to talk then into going for the record the following year knowing it could be easily had. Paul sold the boat to Bryan with the engines specifically built for the kilo runs along with the Offshore powerheads they were racing with. Bryan and John had no cat experience coming from only owning and driving V bottom boats.

So Bryan and John were making passes and not getting the speeds as they were driving the boat like a V bottom. They came pretty close to blowing the boat over. I’m on the radio, as is Fred listening and the other teams listening, trying to tell them how to trim the boat. Some of the other teams are trying to break the same record.

Offshore C class was primarily twin engine V bottom inboards but included Outboard powered cats. The engine specs we’re completely open to any modifications for the Outboards. Maximum 3.0 liter and no supercharging, turbocharging or nitrous. The engines we built for the kilo runs were 2.5 260 hp based engines with iron liner Z port sleeves. When we originally built them for Paul it was with a very short time period getting them built to be ready for the kilo runs. I had just designed the Z port sleeves and had received the first run from LA Sleeve. Not 100% sure but pretty sure these were the first Z port sleeves for the 2.5. With the short period of time to build and dyno these new engines it was decided that the best way to make the time schedule was for two builders to each build and dyno one. Ron Anderson would build one and I the other. So a powerhead was shipped to Ron in Washington and one to me in California. I shipped a set of sleeves to Ron. Both engines were built and endurance tested on each dyno. Ron and I had decided to mimic the kilo run by holding the engines at 8000 rpm with full load for a length of time we felt was equivalent to the run. They made 345 horsepower and held together.

Back to the kilo runs. Bryan and John had done six or eight runs and not getting anywhere near record speed. I was thinking these engines aren’t going to keep doing this so I radioed for them to come in. Gave them some more coaching on trimming properly for driving a cat at speeds. They would just keeping trimming up like you would a V bottom. We also picked a different radio frequency so I could coach them as they were going without any other chatter or listening on the frequency.

It worked and ran combined pass speeds of 114 mph which set the record. Knew the boat had more speed in it but was very concerned about the engines living much longer so we called it good. Upon returning to the dock we were greeted with your cheating, you don’t have any new record. The boat was roped off and no one could go near it until all the other boats and officials were back on shore. We had just beat the old record by at least 14 mph and no congratulations or anything.

Now back to Fred. All the record attempts for all classes are done. The inboard boats in C class best runs were just over 100 mph. Fred comes ashore from the official time keeper boat and walks over to Xplosive asking who owns this boat. Some of the people from California putting on the event tell Fred yes they know this boat is not legal and has no record. Fred looks at them and says what are you talking about. Meanwhile Bryan steps up stating he’s the owner of the boat. Fred asks him if he built the engines, Bryan says no and points to me. Fred comes up to me and asks if I built them. Upon saying yes he congratulates me, shaking my hand stating how listening to those engines making the passes was music to his ears. Others step up and protest again stating the boat is not legal. Fred asks what do you mean the class is open to all modifications just can’t be over 3.0. He looks at me and asks if the engines are over 3.0. I state they are 2.5 and don’t think it would possible to get over 3.0 from a 2.5 block. He states exactly and they have a new record!



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Lake X Kid
04-25-2020, 07:16 AM
Charlie Strang an intellect coveted by both his former bosses, Carl Kiekhaefer and Ralph Evinrude.

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Lake X Kid
04-25-2020, 07:42 AM
Bryon and John's kilo run of 114 mph speed record.

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Lake X Kid
04-25-2020, 08:04 AM
I’ll tell a story as best I can remember it.

With the short period of time to build and dyno these new engines it was decided that the best way to make the time schedule was for two builders to each build and dyno one. Ron Anderson would build one and I the other. So a powerhead was shipped to Ron in Washington and one to me in California. I shipped a set of sleeves to Ron. Both engines were built and endurance tested on each dyno. Ron and I had decided to mimic the kilo run by holding the engines at 8000 rpm with full load for a length of time we felt was equivalent to the run. They made 345 horsepower and held together.

Back to the kilo runs.

It worked and ran combined pass speeds of 114 mph which set the record. We had just beat the old record by at least 14 mph.



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Onetime with the time constraints building the engines for the kilo run, did you have time to do some prop testing? To make sure you achieved the highest top-end boat speed at 8,000 rpm.

Onetime
04-25-2020, 09:46 AM
Paul Whittier ordered the props based on our projected horsepower and rpm the engines would run and live.

Dennis Cavanaugh at Mercury Racing Propeller built the props. Dennis was the best and really nailed it perfectly on the props. They were labbed and thinned Mercury Racing three Blade cleavers. They were super thin and built just for the kilo run. Don’t think they would have lived very long in rough water offshore conditions.

The props were bolted on the boat for the first time when Paul made the record attempt in 1995. He had received them from Dennis just before leaving for California.

FUJIMO
04-26-2020, 02:03 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-6.2145/full?d=1242261721

FUJIMO
04-26-2020, 02:46 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-5.2136/full?d=1241662506

peterse90
04-26-2020, 03:07 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-6.2145/full?d=1242261721
If I was to guess, the boat is a Mark Twain MT 180. In Canada it was a Cutter MT 180 and I have a 1968 - they don't make boats like that anymore.
464183

FUJIMO
04-26-2020, 05:52 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1965-mercury-brochure-page-4.2135/full?d=1241662505

FUJIMO
04-26-2020, 07:40 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/ExpTruck5_720.png

FUJIMO
04-26-2020, 07:41 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/ExpTruck4_720.png

FUJIMO
04-26-2020, 08:35 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/MR_250R_Allison_21XR_Yellow__600.png

Lake X Kid
04-26-2020, 09:03 PM
OK Willabee...There is your clue. "...Building things that were pointy in the front & flat in the back, out of plastic."

Figure that out and you can finally pull the veil off the one known only to us as "Fujimo."

But as the saying goes..."Some doors are better left unopened."

Fujimo my first inkling as to who you might be, was that you were a Mercury employee in the marketing, advertising, public relations departments. Because of your catalog of photos.

Maybe even Fred K., but was I way off base thinking that. I personally what to thank you, for posting all these photos. And some (as you probably know) I have re-posted elsewhere too. Keep the photos coming. :)

FUJIMO
04-26-2020, 09:21 PM
http://p1.la-img.com/406/28942/11180233_4_l.jpg

FUJIMO
04-26-2020, 09:23 PM
https://p1.liveauctioneers.com/406/28942/11180349_3_l.jpg

FUJIMO
04-26-2020, 09:24 PM
http://www.boatmaginternational.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Mercury-4.5-L_250-cv_details.jpg

mbd29
04-27-2020, 03:08 PM
Flashback. Gary Baltz. Another good guy. And the other Fred too. Hauenstein.
No he wasn’t.

mbd29
04-27-2020, 03:17 PM
And the clues continue - lets see, was a FL OEM, used a lot of Merc Hi Perf stuff, apparently knew me when I was an OEM rep down in the swamps, liked us enough to post photos that no one else has access to - knows who JFL is. Why not come out of your closet and stop pissin' us off?
Give it up Bernie. The only one he is pissing off is you. If you haven’t figured it out by now you never will.🤪😳😘

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:06 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Two-GWRS-Together_720.png

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:07 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/image-3-1024x332.png

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:07 PM
https://www.offshoreonly.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/mercury300mti2.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:08 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Allison_Green_250.png

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:08 PM
https://www.greatlakesscuttlebutt.com/images/news/2019/07/mercury_blackMotor_med.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:09 PM
https://www.greatlakesscuttlebutt.com/images/news/2019/07/mercury_openMotor_med.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:09 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/FPC-WINTER-RUN-2019-1121_720.png

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:10 PM
http://yaffa-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/yaffadsp/images/dspArticle/leadImage/mercury-racing-450r2.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:11 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/8.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:11 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/14.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:12 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/21.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:12 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Dins_720-1.png

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:14 PM
https://images.boats.com/resize/wp/2/files/2013/10/Miss-GEICO-Mercury-Racing-1650-engines-640px-560x355.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:15 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/X-haust-Noise-Reducer.png

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:17 PM
https://www.beautifullife.info/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/05/six_motor_speed_boat.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:18 PM
https://features.boats.com/boat-content/files/2017/06/TRULIO248-01.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:18 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MM_ProKicker_LifeStyle_Bago_2016-52-of-55-1.png

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:20 PM
https://speedonthewater.com/images/2019_Images/miami19/mercuryracingwideopenmti340.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:21 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Lamp-600.png

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:21 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/92/26/d6/9226d68eac31be250df86ceb3eb734b6.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:22 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/13.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:23 PM
https://www.speedonthewater.com/images/2019_Images/avalon450r-01.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:24 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/moVpNUVSmAw/maxresdefault.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:25 PM
https://wordlesstech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/cigarette-42x-ducati-speedboat-4.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:27 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/14/7c/af147c4002475e59eca37ef9f14b1328.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:28 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/45/69/fd/4569fd48e13196ad07674f5995d06618.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:29 PM
https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/attachments/general-boating-discussion/473338d1334940931-questions-about-mercury-racing-525-rh2.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:30 PM
https://www.luvmyboat.com/file/pic/gallery/14352.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:38 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/44/e9/1044e942781ca149831850567453eb92.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:41 PM
http://www.continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/images/21Rescue550x368.jpeg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:43 PM
http://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/p/1200/630/s3/digital-cougar-assets/tradeboats/2017/05/24/141155/Triple-Mercury-Verado-350-Boston-Whaler-350-Outrage-At-Beach-2.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:48 PM
https://www.tradeonlytoday.com/.image/t_share/MTQ4ODQ5NTY5NzIxMDMzNzgz/mercury0528.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 06:49 PM
https://www.tradeonlytoday.com/.image/t_share/MTQ4ODQ5NTIyMjA0ODc3ODc5/mercury0711.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 07:00 PM
https://www.fastonwater.co.uk/images/b-seebold-bristol-80.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 07:01 PM
http://img.boatmaginternational.com/2019/04/Cigarette-59-Tirranna-10.jpg

FUJIMO
04-27-2020, 08:43 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-1.30/full?d=1184813654

peterse90
04-27-2020, 09:45 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-1.30/full?d=1184813654

Fujimo, I really like your pictures of this era - that looks like a Mark Twain MT160 - in Canada a Cutter MT 160.

FUJIMO
04-29-2020, 08:11 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-2.31/full?d=1184813865

FUJIMO
04-29-2020, 08:12 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-3.32/full?d=1184889340

FUJIMO
04-29-2020, 08:13 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-4.33/full?d=1184889341

FUJIMO
04-29-2020, 08:14 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-mercury-brochure-page-20.110/full?d=1186453247

JPEROG
04-29-2020, 09:07 PM
https://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Dins_720-1.png


I wish I could get my hands on Davey's laptop (I wouldn't know what to do with it if I did LOL...)

Joe

WaterZebra
04-30-2020, 10:19 AM
https://www.tradeonlytoday.com/.image/t_share/MTQ4ODQ5NTIyMjA0ODc3ODc5/mercury0711.jpg
After studying this photo, I'm assuming that assembly of the V6 and V8 products starts at the transom bracket and extends from there. The only "overhead" installation might be the powerhead itself? Looks like any movement of products or large pieces is by articulated machine. When we did a trade study for similar automation at Boeing we found that the investment paid off in labor and employee healthcare savings. Only question I have for this foto is how the motor finally makes its way to the Merc steel shipping pallet? Reason I'm asking is I have a ProXS V8 on a Merc pallet and I've heard 2 stories from dealers on getting the motor off the pallet. (1) Tip the pallet up to vertical position. (2) Tip / rotate the motor up off the pallet.

FUJIMO
04-30-2020, 11:32 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-mercury-brochure-page-19.109/full?d=1186453246

FUJIMO
04-30-2020, 12:08 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-mercury-brochure-page-18.102/full?d=1186106670

moparbarn
04-30-2020, 12:18 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-mercury-brochure-page-19.109/full?d=1186453246

What boat is used in the Ride Guide indicator wheel pic?

WaterZebra
04-30-2020, 12:30 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-mercury-brochure-page-18.102/full?d=1186106670
The die cast MerControl was the best ever made. I really miss them. Long before they integrated trim rocker switches into the binnacle control arm, I rigged a momentary toggle switch into my MerControl arm for throttle / trim control (still in use today). I'm not happy with the plastic junk that replaced the original MerControl. There are some things you just don't mess with or replace. MerControl was one of them. Only thing that could have been improved was the method of attachment of the MerControl to the gunnel, seat or floor.

peterse90
04-30-2020, 01:13 PM
The die cast MerControl was the best ever made. I really miss them.

I also liked how the tach harness just plugged into the front of the MerControl.

Bob V
04-30-2020, 06:59 PM
Sarasota Powerboat Grand Prix postponed

The Longboat Observer•April 30, 2020


https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/XEAs2iBRzNMDqynF61Ig9A--~B/aD0xMjgyO3c9MjAwMDtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://s.yimg.com/am/60d/c58c5047058aab510e69673d4f3a588e
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The organizers of the Sarasota Powerboat Grand Prix Festival announced the event will not be held as scheduled, as concerns related to COVID-19 continue to affect large gatherings in the area. The event was originally scheduled to take place from June 26-28 in downtown Sarasota and on Lido Key. In addition to the boat races, plans for the weekend festival included a block party on Main Street. A new date for the Grand Prix has not been set. In a release, event organizers said they would “look to possibly rescheduling the race this year” pending applicable guidelines related to the pandemic. “Knowing both the economic and charitable benefits this event generates, this was a very difficult decision.

FUJIMO
05-01-2020, 08:42 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-mercury-brochure-page-17.101/full?d=1186106669

FUJIMO
05-01-2020, 09:10 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-mercury-brochure-page-16.100/full?d=1186024005

FUJIMO
05-02-2020, 05:50 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-mercury-brochure-page-15.99/full?d=1186024004

GENE LANHAM
05-02-2020, 06:28 PM
The die cast MerControl was the best ever made. I really miss them. Long before they integrated trim rocker switches into the binnacle control arm, I rigged a momentary toggle switch into my MerControl arm for throttle / trim control (still in use today). I'm not happy with the plastic junk that replaced the original MerControl. There are some things you just don't mess with or replace. MerControl was one of them. Only thing that could have been improved was the method of attachment of the MerControl to the gunnel, seat or floor.


50+ years ago--the best

464648

Bob V
05-02-2020, 07:04 PM
50+ years ago--the best

464651

FUJIMO
05-02-2020, 07:12 PM
...and the design didn't change for decades...https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.yoTXLBF5u6oi1kumiZqtUQHaHa?pid=Api&rs=1

FUJIMO
05-02-2020, 07:24 PM
http://www.mercruiserparts.com/Merc/MidasImagesNew/QS/OBACCA/47.gif

peterse90
05-02-2020, 09:21 PM
...and the design didn't change for decades...https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.yoTXLBF5u6oi1kumiZqtUQHaHa?pid=Api&rs=1
As well as the easy tach plug-in, I also really liked the 'easy to use' push button choke and the 'easy to use' neutral warm-up lever.
I had one of these controls with my 1968 Merc 100 'tower of power' on my 1968 Cutter MT 180 that later got replaced with a 1980 Merc 150 V6.

WaterZebra
05-02-2020, 11:08 PM
http://www.mercruiserparts.com/Merc/MidasImagesNew/QS/OBACCA/47.gif
Performing any disassembly or assembly on these things was not for the mechanically challenged. If you didn't understand how the parts 4,21,40 worked together, reassembly became a mess. Oh, and throw in a neutral start switch into the mechanical mess as well. The engine wire harness was a robust design as well.

Capt.Insane-o
05-03-2020, 12:56 AM
I can't even tell you how many of those I've had to put back together for people.

Robby321
05-03-2020, 04:30 AM
Performing any disassembly or assembly on these things was not for the mechanically challenged. If you didn't understand how the parts 4,21,40 worked together, reassembly became a mess. Oh, and throw in a neutral start switch into the mechanical mess as well. The engine wire harness was a robust design as well.
Been there. Done that!

powerabout
05-03-2020, 05:04 AM
As well as the easy tach plug-in, I also really liked the 'easy to use' push button choke and the 'easy to use' neutral warm-up lever.
I had one of these controls with my 1968 Merc 100 'tower of power' on my 1968 Cutter MT 180 that later got replaced with a 1980 Merc 150 V6.
then they added trim and it all went to hell...

FUJIMO
05-03-2020, 07:18 AM
then they added trim and it all went to hell...
...lol, that's why this MerControl was so nice. No trim. Simpler times.:smiletest:

FUJIMO
05-03-2020, 09:53 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-13.88/full?d=1185926739

FUJIMO
05-03-2020, 10:13 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-12.73/full?d=1185499930

FUJIMO
05-03-2020, 10:31 AM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-14.89/full?d=1185926740

2us70
05-03-2020, 11:12 AM
Had one weakness. When used on motor with the big gear case ( 850, 1500) they would break if you tried to put it in reverse without the motor running. If the reverse dogs weren't lined up the little tooth on part #40could shear off.
...and the design didn't change for decades...https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.yoTXLBF5u6oi1kumiZqtUQHaHa?pid=Api&rs=1

2us70
05-03-2020, 11:20 AM
What year did Mercury discontinue the 44ci motors? I have been told that the later year motors were different from the motors I am familiar with. Also what years did they build the 44xs.

FUJIMO
05-03-2020, 02:28 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-11.72/full?d=1185499930

GENE LANHAM
05-03-2020, 02:54 PM
Had one weakness. When used on motor with the big gear case ( 850, 1500) they would break if you tried to put it in reverse without the motor running. If the reverse dogs weren't lined up the little tooth on part #40could shear off.

Never had that problem Jim----464711

FUJIMO
05-03-2020, 03:06 PM
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=464711&d=1588535648...likewise... but maybe it was just because I can't remember seeing the need to ever shift into reverse with the engines not running? that was a while ago though, what the hell do I know?!;)

FUJIMO
05-03-2020, 06:48 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-10.68/full?d=1185408099

Capt.Insane-o
05-03-2020, 07:37 PM
The 44 ci motor. That was a warhorse, and proberly Mercs best motor ever.

powerabout
05-03-2020, 09:36 PM
...lol, that's why this MerControl was so nice. No trim. Simpler times.:smiletest:
and allowed Yam to come in and say stacked boxes are what boat riggers need with trim.....
OMC made the same mistake

2us70
05-04-2020, 11:01 AM
Happened to me during weighing and inspection in SG class at 73 Nationals
Never had that problem Jim----464711

FUJIMO
05-04-2020, 11:07 AM
and allowed Yam to come in and say stacked boxes are what boat riggers need with trim.....
OMC made the same mistake...you segwayed into another era of controls, since large Yamaha's didn't show here in the U.S. till about '86, but anyways...

2us70
05-04-2020, 02:18 PM
Last time I checked Speedmasters didn't have reverse.
Never had that problem Jim----464711

powerabout
05-04-2020, 08:29 PM
...you segwayed into another era of controls, since large Yamaha's didn't show here in the U.S. till about '86, but anyways...
so Merc had years to do it right and Yam must have said DOH lets do it first its so obvious..

FUJIMO
05-04-2020, 09:09 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-9.67/full?d=1185408098

Dave Strong
05-04-2020, 09:13 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-9.67/full?d=1185408098

Had a 66 65hp was a great motor.

Dave

2us70
05-05-2020, 10:31 AM
The 60 in 650s weren't fast but they were even more durable than the 500s.

22R
05-05-2020, 05:57 PM
Growing up in late 70's early 80's my Dad had a Aluminum boat with a 65 Merc. Unsure of year but I think it had a red striped cowl. Neighbor across the street had 65 Merc but different color strip(unsure of his color). My Dad's ran like a clock. Sit for months crank n go never a issue the guy across the street hated his never did run right for him. Not sure if his motor was a lemon or operator error I just know we stuck with Mercs and he never bought another.....Memories

22R

peterse90
05-05-2020, 07:23 PM
Growing up in late 70's early 80's my Dad had a Aluminum boat with a 65 Merc. Unsure of year but I think it had a red striped cowl. Neighbor across the street had 65 Merc but different color strip(unsure of his color). My Dad's ran like a clock. Sit for months crank n go never a issue the guy across the street hated his never did run right for him. Not sure if his motor was a lemon or operator error I just know we stuck with Mercs and he never bought another.....Memories22R

Red stripe Mercs were 1968 to 1971.
In 1972 Merc replaced the 4 cylinder 65 with an all new 3-cylinder 49.9 cubic inch 65hp. Blue stripes. Totally different engine from the 4cylinder 65hp.

FMP
05-05-2020, 07:43 PM
Had a red 65 , 71 I think. Solid motor

FUJIMO
05-06-2020, 08:15 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-8.66/full?d=1185328576

FUJIMO
05-06-2020, 08:24 PM
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=111885&d=1154117653

peterse90
05-06-2020, 10:57 PM
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=111885&d=1154117653

Looks like Willabee on the left

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 11:02 AM
http://i1.wp.com/www.onatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/RascalCockpit.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 11:05 AM
Red stripe Mercs were 1968 to 1971.
In 1972 Merc replaced the 4 cylinder 65 with an all new 3-cylinder 49.9 cubic inch 65hp. Blue stripes. Totally different engine from the 4cylinder 65hp.
HEY!...there was a hint of red on all the 1967 stripes. Mostly silver, with a small amount of red above & below...;) ...A preview of sorts, of what was to come...

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 11:13 AM
http://www.gaugepods.com/merc20.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 01:38 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-7.65/full?d=1185328575

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 06:19 PM
Looks like Willabee on the left
...yup...and...?

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 06:29 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-4.33/full?d=1184889341

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:01 PM
https://endlessboating.com/forums/media/1966-merc-brochure-page-5.60/full?d=1185238960

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:16 PM
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/af136/RetroBoats/BobbyTrophy-WihiteWing-a_zpsc637c263.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:24 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Cundiff%2014'.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:24 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Cundiff%202.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:25 PM
...Kississimmi Florida Race...http://www.raveauboats.com/Kissimmee.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:27 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Race%20team.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:29 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Gus.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:30 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Herb%20twin%20rig.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:30 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Charlie%20&%20Oliver.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:32 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Henry%20Rivers.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:33 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Danny%20Fleming.jpg

GENE LANHAM
05-07-2020, 07:34 PM
...yup...and...?

GG

Gary

Garbrecht

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:34 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Race%20team%202.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:35 PM
http://www.cneheritage.com/assets/components/images/gallery/1960-s/boats_2.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:35 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Old%2020%20Raveau.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:36 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/C.Wolff.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:36 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Phil.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:37 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Old%2020%20Raveau%202.jpg

Mark75H
05-07-2020, 07:41 PM
http://www.cneheritage.com/assets/components/images/gallery/1960-s/boats_2.jpg


A boat with a beak. I think someone's patent would have been denied if the patent inspectors saw this pic

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:46 PM
A boat with a beak. I think someone's patent would have been denied if the patent inspectors saw this pic
...if your referring to fountain, there never was a patent on the beak, or the thing he called a pad. to s. stepp either.

Capt.Insane-o
05-07-2020, 07:46 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Old%2020%20Raveau.jpg

That's awesome

peterse90
05-07-2020, 07:48 PM
GG Gary Garbrecht

That would be my guess as well...but if anyone would know for sure it would be you Gene !

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:49 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/A-B%20runabout%201.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:53 PM
https://speedonthewater.com/images/2014_images/stancombe_lead_s.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 07:55 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/07/9d/c6/079dc65fb16c199cace0c8c45fd43486--vintage-boats-water-toys.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 08:29 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/54%20boat%201.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 08:30 PM
...MerCruiser SternDrive Power...Ridgel Piloting...http://www.raveauboats.com/Ridgel.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 08:32 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Treasure%203.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 08:41 PM
...Reggie in his "Rhino" tunnel with some of the first Mercury T-3 power...https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e4/09/87/e40987e8430088ae76ef0dc60c0eb2f4--fountain-shelves.jpg

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 08:46 PM
https://i2.wp.com/svera.se/blogg/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/molinari.jpg?resize=625%2C421

FUJIMO
05-07-2020, 08:56 PM
https://ccmarketplace.azureedge.net/cc-temp/listing/100/6808/9014327-1968-molinari-mercury-hydroplane-std.jpg

FUJIMO
05-08-2020, 09:23 AM
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.NrAJlIfY7CUviceCRXUJTAAAAA?pid=Api&rs=1

2us70
05-08-2020, 10:25 AM
Corvair convertible?
http://www.raveauboats.com/Cundiff%202.jpg

Bob V
05-08-2020, 10:28 AM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Cundiff%202.jpg



My guess is 1966...??

doug7488
05-08-2020, 10:33 AM
Those old pix of the Raveau’s sure bring back memories
finding them in the reeds off shore rd in lindenhurst in the 70’s
most people were glad to get that “crap” out of the yard!

2us70
05-08-2020, 10:33 AM
Herb Reeves at Key West. I took a Greyhound Bus down to that race just to see him run this rig. Twin 44in 500s with D quickie lowers. Don't know how fast it ran but it was impressive. Herb later said once was enough for that setup for him.
http://www.raveauboats.com/Herb%20twin%20rig.jpg

2us70
05-08-2020, 10:35 AM
Looks like D class at Miami Outboard Club.
http://www.raveauboats.com/Charlie%20&%20Oliver.jpg

2us70
05-08-2020, 10:41 AM
Henry Rivers. I bought this boat from him in 1965. In testing I found the bottom was failing so I took it to Nick Chapman to be fixed. Never raced it. wound up swaping it to Nick for the last flat bottom he built. That is however the motor and rigging I started racing E class with.
http://www.raveauboats.com/Henry%20Rivers.jpg

2us70
05-08-2020, 10:43 AM
I believe the guy second from the left in this picture is John McCall.
http://www.raveauboats.com/Race%20team%202.jpg

WaterZebra
05-08-2020, 10:44 AM
https://ccmarketplace.azureedge.net/cc-temp/listing/100/6808/9014327-1968-molinari-mercury-hydroplane-std.jpg
Yeah, this package showed up in Seattle Craigslist a couple of years ago. Was being sold by a car dealership as part of a former collector's estate. They wanted an insane amount of money for it.

2us70
05-08-2020, 10:45 AM
Is that Phil Young?
http://www.raveauboats.com/Phil.jpg

FUJIMO
05-08-2020, 11:41 AM
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=271185&d=1358663348

FUJIMO
05-08-2020, 01:04 PM
https://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200705/formula-1-powerboat--2_1600x0w.jpg

largecar91
05-08-2020, 02:18 PM
Yeah, this package showed up in Seattle Craigslist a couple of years ago. Was being sold by a car dealership as part of a former collector's estate. They wanted an insane amount of money for it. If I remember it had a 100BP

Robby321
05-08-2020, 02:45 PM
My Merc Guru, Doc Frankenmerc when young!
Spitfire, then the Minimost...


465252

Then the Jacoby..

465253

willabee
05-08-2020, 03:02 PM
https://ccmarketplace.azureedge.net/cc-temp/listing/100/6808/9014327-1968-molinari-mercury-hydroplane-std.jpg

Tell you what ..... put that thing in the water with about 20 gallons of gas, add a little sunshine and I'll guarantee that you're about to have one of the best days of your life! :cheers:

FUJIMO
05-08-2020, 03:26 PM
https://www.nwherald.com/_internal/cimg!0/khv04qmbbpfhfn3qlruoqwnvqfxthli

FUJIMO
05-08-2020, 03:35 PM
...yes, it was a 1000BP, 1968 boat/engine, boat i.d./hull number 39712...http://admin.antiqueboatamerica.com/pictures/8/76/39712(5).jpg

FUJIMO
05-08-2020, 03:38 PM
...1969...https://i2.wp.com/svera.se/blogg/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Paris-1969.jpg?resize=625%2C920

lilabner
05-08-2020, 04:01 PM
Henry Rivers. I bought this boat from him in 1965. In testing I found the bottom was failing so I took it to Nick Chapman to be fixed. Never raced it. wound up swaping it to Nick for the last flat bottom he built. That is however the motor and rigging I started racing E class with.

Pretty sure that is the 54 boat I ran. took it off the top of Marcels car. Won almost everything I ran with it. Great boat.

lilabner
05-08-2020, 04:05 PM
Is that Phil Young?

Sure is..

lilabner
05-08-2020, 04:09 PM
That's awesome

Marcel Raveau was awesome!!

FUJIMO
05-08-2020, 04:25 PM
Henry Rivers. I bought this boat from him in 1965. In testing I found the bottom was failing so I took it to Nick Chapman to be fixed. Never raced it. wound up swaping it to Nick for the last flat bottom he built. That is however the motor and rigging I started racing E class with....if its one thing that Nick and his son's too, Curtis & Victor, were always game for...is wheeling & dealing. Regular Monty Hall's. Good guys though.

FUJIMO
05-08-2020, 04:29 PM
...This is Victor Chapmans business these days. Front loading yacht tender boats. He's always designing & building new things.http://www.26northyachts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/7_maimi-boat-show-2013-Chapman-Transition-tenders.jpg

Lake X Kid
05-08-2020, 08:11 PM
Year 2020.
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Mark75H
05-08-2020, 08:22 PM
https://www.nwherald.com/_internal/cimg!0/khv04qmbbpfhfn3qlruoqwnvqfxthli

Switzer Baby Bullet

Mark75H
05-08-2020, 08:27 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/A-B%20runabout%201.jpg

Mark75 grafted onto a Mark55H tower and foot. Late enough to have 2 into 1 stacks, so that puts it into the 1960's at least a few years

Mark75H
05-08-2020, 08:41 PM
http://www.raveauboats.com/Cundiff%202.jpg

Yes, its a Corvair convertible. The only trim difference between the '65 and '66 is where the "Corvair" emblem is on the front. On the '65 its on the hood, on the '66 is below the hood on the front of the trunk. I don't think there is enough showing not to say this isn't a '67. The differences between the '65 to '69 were minimal trim differences. Outside of a Lakewood wagon or pickup, my choice for a Corvair tow vehicle would be a convertible with a 140hp motor.

Robby321
05-08-2020, 10:00 PM
Switzer Baby Bullet

My brothers. Older than me by 10 years..20 H and quickie. Only pic known and fuzzy!
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FUJIMO
05-09-2020, 10:02 AM
http://www.speedmastermarine.iwarp.com/images/scan10021_379x500.jpghttp://www.speedmastermarine.iwarp.com/images/scan10016_378x500.jpg