Xr-2002

[patchesII]

I doubt it, they can get a glass drag down to 450 now from what i've heard. with the new tech they should be lighter??

SCJ touched on something I already knew. Allison is getting the XR2001 down into the very low 400's now and they put that mean old 2.5 on it and they seem to be fine. Here's the deal, I'm not gonna order one but this is a public forum so I can have an opinion. There is NO reason these boats can't be built sub 500 lbs if a buyer wanted one and hold up just fine. My second XR2002 was an 88 model that weighed 515 lbs bare and held up great over the years with 2.5's on it. An XR2001 from a few years later but the same basic era of boat construction weighed about the same(515-550). The new XR2001's using newer materials and methods are at least 100 lbs lighter than the XR2001's of the early 90's. Why wouldn't the same hold true with the 2002 if an owner wanted it that way? Just an opinion so don't jump on me

[90 5.0]

SCJ touched on something I already knew. Allison is getting the XR2001 down into the very low 400's now and they put that mean old 2.5 on it and they seem to be fine. Here's the deal, I'm not gonna order one but this is a public forum so I can have an opinion. There is NO reason these boats can't be built sub 500 lbs if a buyer wanted one and hold up just fine. My second XR2002 was an 88 model that weighed 515 lbs bare and held up great over the years with 2.5's on it. An XR2001 from a few years later but the same basic era of boat construction weighed about the same(515-550). The new XR2001's using newer materials and methods are at least 100 lbs lighter than the XR2001's of the early 90's. Why wouldn't the same hold true with the 2002 if an owner wanted it that way? Just an opinion so don't jump on me

Thats exactly what I was saying. Maybe it just didn't come across that way.

[patchesII]

Thats exactly what I was saying. Maybe it just didn't come across that way.

It did. I was just agreeing with you in a long winded way. Lol

[whipper]

i cant wait to see one!!:cheers:

[thunter764]

Complete 12" drag.
Giegertech clamp.
12" Merc can
XR-6 case
complete turn key powerhead with PPE flywheel
Nass carbon pan (no cowl)
wing plates
Weighed in at 309 lbs on my digital hanging scale.

Complete turn key powerhead 170 lbs

Well that answers the sub 350# question. That is lite for sure. I still would be interested in a 12 inch factory set up on the scales as well as a new 200xs production 15 inch mid.

Thanks for the updates Steve.

[patchesII]

Factory setup is 325. Geiger's mid would be the way to go though. 15" mid and the corresponding larger jack plate adds about 60 lbs. Can't speak to the XS power head

[Farmer]

I have been digging all over the net and can not find a site that sells the Geiger mid or a price of one. Does anyone have a site for me so i can look at pictures, prices exc..? I just have some simple questions like: Do i need to buy a 12" and the Geiger or does it come together? Trim? Steering? Options?

I would also like to know the weight difference between a Factory 15" and the Geiger 12" is the weight savings pounds or are we talking oz?

To me the Power Head weight is not a concern. I would be running the same 2.5L, LU, and cowl anyway. So the mid weight is really the only thing that really can make a difference.

Sorry, Off Subject, but is the stern/wings going to be the thin new design like the new drags? Or is it going to be thicker like the old XR2002 or the SS?

[Tomanytoys]

I have been digging all over the net and can not find a site that sells the Geiger mid or a price of one. Does anyone have a site for me so i can look at pictures, prices exc..? I just have some simple questions like: Do i need to buy a 12" and the Geiger or does it come together? Trim? Steering? Options?

I would also like to know the weight difference between a Factory 15" and the Geiger 12" is the weight savings pounds or are we talking oz?

To me the Power Head weight is not a concern. I would be running the same 2.5L, LU, and cowl anyway. So the mid weight is really the only thing that really can make a difference.

Sorry, Off Subject, but is the stern/wings going to be the thin new design like the new drags? Or is it going to be thicker like the old XR2002 or the SS?

Call Geiger direct, 705-718-0181 (tel:705-718-0181)

The weight difference between a Gieger 12" and a factory 15" is probably over 40lbs, maybe more.

[RED ALERT]

Geiger Tec has a Facebook page that has one picture of a clamp.

[LongShot]

This one has trim.

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[90 5.0]

Anyone know how much lighter a Geiger 12" is compared to a lightened 15"

ive vey seen the numbers for a lightened 15" before but can't find them now.

[patchesII]

The weight difference between a factory 15" and the Geiger 12" is probably gonna approach 60 lbs but there's a kicker to it. Let's say your setup requires you to run a 6" jack plate with the 15" mid. That will add about 25 lbs to the equation. Brian can build the setback into his mid and it would probably only gain a couple pounds. Let's take a boat like the XR2002 being discussed here, you could go from a conventional 15" mid on a 6" plate and convert to a 12" Geiger mid and shed up to 85 lbs off the back of the boat. I do love an XR2002 with a 12". Here's my old one

http://i50.tinypic.com/2jfcdco.jpg

[90 5.0]

Very cool.

[whipper]

Patches how fast did you get that setup to go? She is one clean sweet looking XR and sick motor!! Bet ya miss her.

[patchesII]

I never stretched it out. I think the fastest I ran it was close to 110. I just did the short track drag thing. It was an 05 Drag motor on it. That boat led to the 2005 XR2001 I raced for 3 seasons, now I'm in the carbon fiber 1/4 Master

[scj]

The weight difference between a factory 15" and the Geiger 12" is probably gonna approach 60 lbs but there's a kicker to it. Let's say your setup requires you to run a 6" jack plate with the 15" mid. That will add about 25 lbs to the equation. Brian can build the setback into his mid and it would probably only gain a couple pounds. Let's take a boat like the XR2002 being discussed here, you could go from a conventional 15" mid on a 6" plate and convert to a 12" Geiger mid and shed up to 85 lbs off the back of the boat. I do love an XR2002 with a 12". Here's my old one

http://i50.tinypic.com/2jfcdco.jpg

I was talking to Darris about this last night when he was showing me the latest progress on the XR's. He was excited that someone is incorporating the setback into the mid and even more-so if 85 pounds could be saved.
They're getting really close on finishing up the new molds. Once the bracing is applied to the floor mold, he's going to start building XR's. He says he's building them back to back and there's four to build. Getting close.........

[mikesufka]

^^^ So awesome - I cannot wait to see these. Hopefully plenty of pictures are coming.

MDS

[patchesII]

If I were building one it would get a 12" mid on the Geiger clamp assembly with cable/pulley steering or as a last resort, hydraulic with a side ram. The other nice thing about the billet clamp assembly is the trim ram used gives plenty of trim range, allowing you to trim it up for trailering or shallow water

[Farmer]

The weight difference between a factory 15" and the Geiger 12" is probably gonna approach 60 lbs but there's a kicker to it. Let's say your setup requires you to run a 6" jack plate with the 15" mid. That will add about 25 lbs to the equation. Brian can build the setback into his mid and it would probably only gain a couple pounds. Let's take a boat like the XR2002 being discussed here, you could go from a conventional 15" mid on a 6" plate and convert to a 12" Geiger mid and shed up to 85 lbs off the back of the boat.


Now that sounds better than 40 lbs. Those numbers are kind of what i was hoping to hear and it makes sense shorter/less material subtract the huge mount and you get a built in Jack. It seems like a no brainer to me.

How much setback is Darris suggesting? My brother on his SS just runs the Allison Jack at what is it a 6" and and a 15" mid and it does the job very well.

[bigtis]

We all beach our allisons down here, but we have soft sand to beach on. and a 12" would be a pain while beaching because of the limit in trim angle i would assume.

I run a shortram lightned 15". I don't want my pad, gearcases, or prop touching bottom, so I tie up and wade in.
Only guys I know that beach their ally's have rats.

[mikesufka]

"Rats" ???? LOL - you been talking to Cleinmark too much. Everything is a "rat" to Jeff.

[bigtis]

"Rats" ???? LOL - you been talking to Cleinmark too much. Everything is a "rat" to Jeff.
Hell, mines a rat in his opinion lol.

[90 5.0]

I run a shortram lightned 15". I don't want my pad, gearcases, or prop touching bottom, so I tie up and wade in.
Only guys I know that beach their ally's have rats.

We're in the water al the time. To damn cold to do that all the time ;)

[JCSmile]

"Rats" are still fast.

[mikesufka]

Hell, mines a rat in his opinion lol.

He just called my "new to me" SS 2000 a "RAT" and he hasn't even seen it yet - LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MDS

[scj]

Good deal. I will sell my 1994 and buy a new one. Solid white. Sell of 1994 will be contingent on the new ones being produced. Will want string steering on mine as it will get a 12" mid.

Well, who was first on the list to get your '94? Darris just completed the string steering routing for the new XR-2002.....
We're about a week to ten days away from seeing a new XR-2002.......

[LongShot]

Well, who was first on the list to get your '94? Darris just completed the string steering routing for the new XR-2002.....
We're about a week to ten days away from seeing a new XR-2002.......
Let's take the first one and line it up against a 22 year old boat with an out dated 2.5 liter Mercury.

[scj]

Dave, you'll get the chance as the one going to KY is going to be raced and that's the one getting string steering. Should be apples to apples......

[LongShot]

Well the 1994 I have doesn't have string steering. Just a lake boat with hydraulic steering, full interior and an old 2.5. Should be apples to apples with the new ones without string steering....If I can ever get it put back together. It has been to Louisville for some TLC and is completely stripped. Won't take long to put back together, not much in them.

[skewby]

i like hearing this dave. that means you have to get a boat out and play not just work on them all the time. you missed a pretty good day on the bar saturday.

[LongShot]

Skewby I have learned one very important lesson....there is no such thing as a bad day on The Bar.

[skewby]

you got that right dave. to many islands or sand bars to hang out on. not to mention marina hopping

[props4u2]

Let's take the first one and line it up against a 22 year old boat with an out dated 2.5 liter Mercury.


That can happen. :D:cheers:

[90 5.0]

A sho is a 4.2l right? I think it would be "fair" to run an outdated 2.9 drag on a 12" mid LOL

[LongShot]

A sho is a 4.2l right? I think it would be "fair" to run an outdated 2.9 drag on a 12" mid LOL
Nah, just a stock 260 on a stock 15" mid. Just an old wood hauler. I don't even now if I can still drive one...

[Michael J Giesler]

Nah, just a stock 260 on a stock 15" mid. Just an old wood hauler. I don't even now if I can still drive one...


Don't worry Dave i will drive that ally for yea

[Michael J Giesler]

Nah, just a stock 260 on a stock 15" mid. Just an old wood hauler. I don't even now if I can still drive one...


Don't worry Dave i will drive that ally for yea

[skewby]

someday id like to have an old wood hauler like that dave

[90 5.0]

Nah, just a stock 260 on a stock 15" mid. Just an old wood hauler. I don't even now if I can still drive one...


I was being facetious, a stock 260 would be enough im sure, much less a stroked drag , but it would be a little closer in cubes ;)

[scj]

Found a mint 15" offshore mid so I'll be smelling 2 stroke smoke a little longer I guess. I have no clue what powerhead will set atop the mid just yet but with any luck at all, I may have it powered by the Rally.........do ores count as powered?

The first XR-2002 had the floor installed last night. The guys over in finishing look to be swamped so I'm not sure when they will marry the top to the hull??????? Getting closer though............

[skewby]

o boy... i need to talk to mrs. nancy monday about some things with the rally, so i'll have to see if any of the guys will let me take a sneak peak.

[LongShot]

Found a mint 15" offshore mid so I'll be smelling 2 stroke smoke a little longer I guess. I have no clue what powerhead will set atop the mid just yet but with any luck at all, I may have it powered by the Rally.........do ores count as powered?

The first XR-2002 had the floor installed last night. The guys over in finishing look to be swamped so I'm not sure when they will marry the top to the hull??????? Getting closer though............

Sounds like you need a 2005 300 Drag or a 2005 280 with Drag electrics.....hmmmmmmm.....I know someone who has both and they are as fresh as a 2005 can get.

[patchesII]

One of these

http://i68.tinypic.com/9ldisk.jpg

[scj]

That's almost too nice to place a cowling over!

[Cp]

.....The guys over in finishing look to be swamped so I'm not sure when they will marry the top to the hull??????? Getting closer though............

I'm sure you know but, you can't rush perfection. Oh to be in your shoes.... enjoy....

[scj]

Oh yeah, there's no rushing the guys and no need to. All their guys have been there at least 20 years and they know exactly how much time things take to get done.

[scj]

Oh yeah, there's no rushing the guys and no need to. All their guys have been there at least 20 years and they know exactly how much time things take to get done.

[LongShot]

One of these

http://i68.tinypic.com/9ldisk.jpg
What are we talking as shown Erik $35K? Does the fuel rail have an integral pressure regulator? Who built it? Nice.

[AZMIDLYF]

About a 1/4 of the way up from the bottom on the fuel rail there seems to some type of sensor with wires.

[patchesII]

Outback Outboards makes the rails. Regulator is in the boat. Dave, cost me about 30 gallons of methanol and a gallon and a half of oil. Lol.

[patchesII]

Oh yeah, there's no rushing the guys and no need to. All their guys have been there at least 20 years and they know exactly how much time things take to get done.

Don't want to derail the thread. SCJ, how long you think it'll be before you get to take a few pictures of a boat. I'm anxious to see a new XR2002

[90 5.0]

Don't want to derail the thread. SCJ, how long you think it'll be before you get to take a few pictures of a boat. I'm anxious to see a new XR2002

We all Are!!!

I been looking for a project one and can't find one :(

Think I might have found an 01 though ;)

[scj]

If the owner ok's it and Nancy is good with it, next week. The trailer could hold the show up a little as they still have to fit up the hull.

[LongShot]

Outback Outboards makes the rails. Regulator is in the boat. Dave, cost me about 30 gallons of methanol and a gallon and a half of oil. Lol.
That will work if you can keep that deal!!!

[LongShot]

If the owner ok's it and Nancy is good with it, next week. The trailer could hold the show up a little as they still have to fit up the hull.
Hunter is a publicity hound....he won't have a problem with it!!!

[thunter764]

Well....I got a call from Lee with some...news. Mine will not be #1. I was good with it though. They wanted to do the white boat first. I can understand and in the end if he is going to build me one in a color he said that he would not do then there is nothing but thankful compliance from me. So I said if I can not be fist then make me last of the anniversary models. So Steve I think you will be #2 and I will be #3?

[LongShot]

Well....I got a call from Lee with some...news. Mine will not be #1. I was good with it though. They wanted to do the white boat first. I can understand and in the end if he is going to build me one in a color he said that he would not do then there is nothing but thankful compliance from me. So I said if I can not be fist then make me last of the anniversary models. So Steve I think you will be #2 and I will be #3?

Tim the number won't matter but I doubt the run will end at 3.

[thunter764]

I was referring to the first 3 which are the Anniversary models. Unless that number has changed, if it has then I will be the last one whatever number that is..but that could be subject to change...We will see how it all shakes out.

[scj]

I've been the middle child all my life so I'm fine with having the middle boat.

[scj]

There are 4 XR-2002 orders to fill. As soon as the first three were secured, another Allison dealer ordered one in Kentucky. His boat is going to be used for racing and he needs his boat quick to prep for the upcoming season. I do not have a problem with the man getting his boat ahead of mine especially since he'll have his boat out in front of the public more so than I which only helps promote the brand.

As far as the number of anniversary models, it's so few (whether three or four) I know mine is one of them and those will be the only 60th anniversary models. Unless something changes, the XR's are going to be built back to back to back to back and the ball is already rolling..............

[thunter764]

10-4 Steve. However many Anniversary models there will be I want to be the last one. I am like you in that I am in no rush. Glad to see it is going well though. Ready for those sneak peak pics!

[scj]

Took a look at Lee's boat tonight and decided I'm going with a contrast color on my floor the same as Tim's boat. Same color too! No wing color either now that I got to look the boat over.

There will be no pictures allowed until the boat is complete. Sorry everyone!
The XR-2002 sure is sleek looking and after looking it over, I'm surprised it took this long to bring such a beautiful boat back into production. I guess the XR-2001 was responsible for it's demise but once the XR-2002 makes its return, the decision could get a lot harder for a certain group of racers/users.

Tim, your boat will be available sooner than you think; mine starts into production the 1st of April and yours is right behind mine.

[thunter764]

Crap!! I got to start making room!

Sounds like things are looking good Steve. Now, If we could just download your brain and post the pics your eyes took...:eek:

[Farmer]

Is it done?

[LongShot]

SUPER TOP SECRET SIGHTING!!!!! XR2002!!!! For real......The thumbnail is in T - 10 and on a temporary hold.....Blast off will be vewy, vewy soon.

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[Farmer]

See if you can accidentally get, maybe a interior shot? dash? new floor?

FYI Beautiful ! ! !

[speedinstream]

Anybody wanting to sell there tired old xr to get them a new one? Im in the market

[scj]

Nice boat Dave! Which one is that?

As far as the new XR's; I think they (Allison) are going to announce them on their facebook page or on their website with pictures and actual weight numbers............should be real soon.

[LongShot]

Steve that is the 1994 with factory aluminum transom. I had my 1986 upgraded a couple years back. we took the carpet out, moved the hotfoot perch towards center and put an XR2001 mount in it, put the aluminum plates in the floor and interior gelcoated the floor instead of carpet. Doing the same with the 1994. The 1986 is getting string steering and has the 12" mid on it. The 1994 is going to be my lake boat so hydraulic steering and full interior. Had it back to the factory for some cosmetic work on the cap. Not perfect but in bright sun light white looks white! They were not generous with gel on the light ones and buffing/sanding is a tedious job. The 1994 has a sweet little 15" Mariner with cherry 260, new Merc top pinned pistons and a blue SVS. I ran it with a 280 and it would scoot. Better gearcase on this motor. I still need to do a little work on the ramps on the upper strakes. It wants to hop around a little at mid range. Darris put them in the mold at some point but they need to be a little more aggressive to make it behave at cruising speed. New SS fenders for the trailer and some axe wheels and it should be good to go.

[skewby]

dave it seems like it should be about ready for a day on the BAR???? i sure would like to ride in one of the classics one day??

[LongShot]

Make a good boat for a quick run to Blue Springs for ice and cold beverages!!!! You got to get use to wind blowing in your face....I have to put n closer than Euchee. These things have thirsty motors and small gas tanks. I would like to put a 225x on it for better fuel economy but don't like the alien cowl on the XR2002.

[skewby]

when you decide you want to bring it down let me know. if you don't mind driving to rockwood theirs 2 ramps with in a couple miles of susar valley where we hang out. not to mention i have lots of friends on the lake with docks with in eye sight we can always refill at a dock. for that matter my barge has all kinds of storage to haul a couple gas cans

[skewby]

your right about the wind... the 03's and this prosport has spoiled me

[scj]

Steve that is the 1994 with factory aluminum transom. I had my 1986 upgraded a couple years back. we took the carpet out, moved the hotfoot perch towards center and put an XR2001 mount in it, put the aluminum plates in the floor and interior gelcoated the floor instead of carpet. Doing the same with the 1994. The 1986 is getting string steering and has the 12" mid on it. The 1994 is going to be my lake boat so hydraulic steering and full interior. Had it back to the factory for some cosmetic work on the cap. Not perfect but in bright sun light white looks white! They were not generous with gel on the light ones and buffing/sanding is a tedious job. The 1994 has a sweet little 15" Mariner with cherry 260, new Merc top pinned pistons and a blue SVS. I ran it with a 280 and it would scoot. Better gearcase on this motor. I still need to do a little work on the ramps on the upper strakes. It wants to hop around a little at mid range. Darris put them in the mold at some point but they need to be a little more aggressive to make it behave at cruising speed. New SS fenders for the trailer and some axe wheels and it should be good to go.

Dave, Darris made a recess in the cross support on the new XR's as I guess not having a place for the regular hot foot in the center is why you had the 01 mount installed?
Sounds like you're getting close(r)..........

[LongShot]

Steve the perch for the original boat was made for side steer. Like an XB 2002. I have never liked my leg stuck way over to the right to mash on the go pedal. Todd and I discussed it and just cut the toe board and put the new perch where your ankle, knee and hip are in line. I got side tracked today and worked on my old Dodge hot rod. My attention span is short. The 1994 and a 1991 XB 2002 are really close to being lake ready. Got to get them out of the way so I can work on my favorite....the 1986 that is black and white. That is the one that I really want to get finished. I have always wanted one with a 12" mid and that is my first.

[scj]

Tell me about this Dodge. Everything I own with 4 wheels is Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler or Ram...............

[skewby]

steve its just an old grocery getter, last time i saw it :eek: its one sweet ride

[LongShot]

Just an old wood hauler......with a an original 1969 Blown Hemi. It's for sale.....

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[scj]

Nice!

[scj]

Tim,

You can slow down on cleaning the garage out; there are two XB-21's in front of my boat build.

Lee's boat is together and the 2nd XR is out of the molds but there was a mix up on gel quantity for my boat. They're waiting on gel so XB's are in the molds now.

[thunter764]

Whew,,,thanks Steve. I hope they check the Red for mine cause there is going to be a bunch of it!! If someone will buy my Maelstrom 23 then I will have a place for the new garage queen, then I can be like my mentor Hensley, a XR02 that never gets wet and a Hemi that gets started and put away:D:leaving:

[LongShot]

You could do worse Tim!!! Had the Hemi out today. Butch got me up and going with the work on the carbs. Thinking about a new SS exhaust system on it. I want flat dumps like a Cup car. Found the transition pieces and will have to fab up the pipes. Both XR 2002's will get wet this year.

[scj]

Tim, I doubt they get blind sided twice. The gel supplier sends what they call pails (looks like 5 gallon buckets to me). The new pail only has 43 pounds of gel and an XR takes around 50 pounds of gel.

But, Lee's boat is looking good! Hopefully his trailer shows up today so they'll let me take a few pictures!!!!!

[thunter764]

That is true Dave, very true. So I will put a trailer hitch on the bird if you put one on the Dodge...That would be a sight if we showed up at the ramp huh?

Yea Steve you are probably right. Plus since the floor will not be red now that should give them a little extra. Cant wait to see Lee's!

[scj]

My floor will be the same color as yours Tim. I think the contrast will look better and tie in the seat colors. Still takes more than one pail though.

[scj]

Lee's boat is finished setting over in a corner waiting on a trailer. The 2nd XR should have the top and hull married together today when they complete the string steering routing..........

The trailers will be a little delayed; Darris had the new XR trailers built with a "V" cross member. That requires a completed boat (which they now have) to measure for proper bunk placement.

[scj]

What was the lightest XR-2002 built?

[Corona Mike]

What was the lightest XR-2002 built?

The Last One I Had... Jeff Tyners Old Boat... Was Just Over 500# (From What I Remember 512#) Don't Know If That Was The Lightest But It Was LIGHT! My 1st. One Weighed At Allison 635 Rigged With Everything Except Motor/Batteries/Trim Pump/Fuel Pump....

[scj]

Is that with just hull, top, controls and steering?

[Corona Mike]

Is that with just hull, top, controls and steering?

I'm Not Sure. Jeff Weighed It On The ODBA Scales Before I Got It. I Do Remember That When They Weighed It, They Weighed Tim Galollie's Boat Also And Jeffs Was Quite A Bit Lighter (Something Like 25 or 30#).

[scj]

So it stands to reason the tank was in it?

[Corona Mike]

Yes In Both Boats... The Red And Black Boat... Jeffs Old Boat... Was Somewhere Around 65# Lighter Than My 1st. XR02. We Weighed It... My 1st boat... At The Factory In 88' When I Picked It Up. That Boat Was A Standard Lay-Up With The Couch Seats And Two Buckets With Ride Guide Steering. There Just Wasn't That Much Difference In The Weight Between A Standard "Ski" Boat And A Race Boat.

[patchesII]

My blue/white one was 515 bare. I think you could get one down to 900 rigged ready for a driver pretty easy with a 12"

[Corona Mike]

In My Opinion, I Don't Think These New Boats Will Be As Light As The Old Ones Due To The 100% Composite Construction. Reason I Beleave This Is Look At The XB02's. My Buddy Bought One Of The 1st. Ones (Rick Sissle) The Boat Weighed Less Than 750# With All The Live Well Pumps Bildge Pumps Carpet Tank ETC... I Have A "Light Comp" And Mine Is Just Over 800# With All The Pumps Carpet ETC Removed! Saying All That, If I Wasn't Trying To Retire, My Name Would Be On The "Order Me One" List!!! I'd See If I Could Get Me One Of Those 280's From Dave And Have A Perfect Lake Boat!

[props4u2]

In My Opinion, I Don't Think These New Boats Will Be As Light As The Old Ones Due To The 100% Composite Construction. Reason I Beleave This Is Look At The XB02's. My Buddy Bought One Of The 1st. Ones (Rick Sissle) The Boat Weighed Less Than 750# With All The Live Well Pumps Bildge Pumps Carpet Tank ETC... I Have A "Light Comp" And Mine Is Just Over 800# With All The Pumps Carpet ETC Removed! Saying All That, If I Wasn't Trying To Retire, My Name Would Be On The "Order Me One" List!!! I'd See If I Could Get Me One Of Those 280's From Dave And Have A Perfect Lake Boat!

You might be surprised Mike.

[props4u2]

In My Opinion, I Don't Think These New Boats Will Be As Light As The Old Ones Due To The 100% Composite Construction. Reason I Beleave This Is Look At The XB02's. My Buddy Bought One Of The 1st. Ones (Rick Sissle) The Boat Weighed Less Than 750# With All The Live Well Pumps Bildge Pumps Carpet Tank ETC... I Have A "Light Comp" And Mine Is Just Over 800# With All The Pumps Carpet ETC Removed! Saying All That, If I Wasn't Trying To Retire, My Name Would Be On The "Order Me One" List!!! I'd See If I Could Get Me One Of Those 280's From Dave And Have A Perfect Lake Boat!

You might be surprised Mike.

[patchesII]

There's no reason they couldn't be lighter if they wanted them to be. The newer XR2001's are substantially lighter than the older models

[oneshot]

My XB is a 2013 with the back seat it's 800 pounds just the seat is 36 pounds.

[LongShot]

I think Todd Bucknell's XR2002 is 490lbs. The weights are all up for debate if they aren't weighed on the same scale with exactly the same equipment. I do know this, a 675 lb XB 2002 is not nearly as easy to go fast in as a 780 lb one. I have heard Darris talk and laugh many times about the red XB2002 that was the Jaco boat on the Merc calendar back in the day. They wanted it built super light for a top end record run. He told "them", Glenn Reynold's and Jerry Jaco, that wasn't what was needed. They insisted so he built it. I think that boat was in the 615-620lb range. The boat handled like crap. The bottom was flexing in the pad area. Darris went back in and added some reinforcement and the boat sat on a rail. Weight doesn't hurt top end nearly as much as e.t. just because of the pucker string that is attached from your bung hole to your right foot. Boat weight tends to relax it.

[Michael J Giesler]

My blue/white one was 515 bare. I think you could get one down to 900 rigged ready for a driver pretty easy with a 12"

Look at Nick Winski old xr 2002 it was really lite

[AZMIDLYF]

I think Todd Bucknell's XR2002 is 490lbs. The weights are all up for debate if they aren't weighed on the same scale with exactly the same equipment. I do know this, a 675 lb XB 2002 is not nearly as easy to go fast in as a 780 lb one. I have heard Darris talk and laugh many times about the red XB2002 that was the Jaco boat on the Merc calendar back in the day. They wanted it built super light for a top end record run. He told "them", Glenn Reynold's and Jerry Jaco, that wasn't what was needed. They insisted so he built it. I think that boat was in the 615-620lb range. The boat handled like crap. The bottom was flexing in the pad area. Darris went back in and added some reinforcement and the boat sat on a rail. Weight doesn't hurt top end nearly as much as e.t. just because of the pucker string that is attached from your bung hole to your right foot. Boat weight tends to relax it.

Sage wisdom right there^^^

[scj]

Dave, Darris told me the same story and when he redesigned the stringers for the new XR's, he incorporated rigidity throughout the hull and transom. He believes this hull is at least twice as rigid and the 18+ years of advanced methods and means paid off in the weight department as well. He'll announce the weights shortly as two boats are built and weighed.

[patchesII]

Look at Nick Winski old xr 2002 it was really lite

It was 510 bare

[scj]

What does bare consist of in your opinion?

I'm trying to figure this out for an apples to apples comparison.

Bare to me would mean hull and top.......no rigging, tank, rub rail, steering, interior, gauges or controls.....

[LongShot]

Dave, Darris told me the same story and when he redesigned the stringers for the new XR's, he incorporated rigidity throughout the hull and transom. He believes this hull is at least twice as rigid and the 18+ years of advanced methods and means paid off in the weight department as well. He'll announce the weights shortly as two boats are built and weighed.

Tell Darris to throw the two mechanical scales, one at the stern and one at the bow, out and get a good set of digital scales to weigh them with. Scale technology has advanced as much or more than boat building tech in 30 years!!!

[patchesII]

What does bare consist of in your opinion?

I'm trying to figure this out for an apples to apples comparison.

Bare to me would mean hull and top.......no rigging, tank, rub rail, steering, interior, gauges or controls.....

They still had the rub rail. Nothing else in the boat so our idea of bare is about the same. My 2005 XR2001 was about 475 bare, Allison had it listed at 510 which probably included the seat, steering, and fairing. When I bought my 1/4 Master I wanted to know bare weight because there are variables in rigging types, steering, batteries, etc..

[90 5.0]

Off topic slightly but is nydhal steering the lightest? Or is the new side ram hydraulic lighter? Like imco I believe makes?

[scj]

They still had the rub rail. Nothing else in the boat so our idea of bare is about the same. My 2005 XR2001 was about 475 bare, Allison had it listed at 510 which probably included the seat, steering, and fairing. When I bought my 1/4 Master I wanted to know bare weight because there are variables in rigging types, steering, batteries, etc..

Thanks Eric

What's everyone's thoughts between racing an XR-2001 vs. an XR-2002 if the weights were equal?
Which is the better driving boat?

[Michael J Giesler]

I know there have been guys up here. That have done very well racing xr 2002

[90 5.0]

Thanks Eric

What's everyone's thoughts between racing an XR-2001 vs. an XR-2002 if the weights were equal?
Which is the better driving boat?


I wanted an xr2002 originally, because its a better lake boat, that can be very competitive as well.

Also I have heard that they are easier to string out on top end, but I have no factual info, just what I found talking to people when looking.

a week after I found my 2001 I found a 2002 I would have loved to have had DOH!

Oh well, in sure i'll love my 01, just gonna be a little more cramped on river rides :)

[SANTAFE]

90 5.0, I just realized who you are. We met at Catahoula. You should be a force to be reckoned with in your Allison. Getting a 20ft dual console Bullet to run over 100mph with a stock 225 merc is pretty awesome. I was very impressed. You are definitely doing something right. I will be glad when they build these boats (xr2002). I think they will be great.

[whipper]

I wanted an xr2002 originally, because its a better lake boat, that can be very competitive as well.

Also I have heard that they are easier to string out on top end, but I have no factual info, just what I found talking to people when looking.

a week after I found my 2001 I found a 2002 I would have loved to have had DOH!



Oh well, in sure i'll love my 01, just gonna be a little more cramped on river rides :)

My bet would be there are more guys that have run a Xr2002 120+ than any other Allison. i know there have been some XR 2001,s just over that mark and XB2002 also. But bet for the most part XR2002 boats. There are many reasons for that other than pucker tolerance of driver im sure. Not saying thats normal to drive any Allison at those speeds but thats been my observation. In a sexy speed combo contest in my opinion there are very few boats ever made that can match the XR2001 . Pure unadulterated boat sexiness lines right there! haha the XR2002 would be a close second followed buy the SS,GS then XB02 if i were judging. :cheers:

[90 5.0]

90 5.0, I just realized who you are. We met at Catahoula. You should be a force to be reckoned with in your Allison. Getting a 20ft dual console Bullet to run over 100mph with a stock 225 merc is pretty awesome. I was very impressed. You are definitely doing something right. I will be glad when they build these boats (xr2002). I think they will be great.

ah yeah that was us.

and that was strung out to dry speed not the 1/8th mile speed LOL. Still got a lot of set-up work to do for 1/8th mile I'm getting drug!

it only took about ten props and 2.5 years of set-up to do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we're at three props and 4 months of testing on 660' so far so we way behind the curve but we getting there.

good to meet yall too!

Ive got tons of years drag racing cars, and tons of years driving fishing boats, but this drag racing boats is different! fun and new though!!

[scj]

Tell Darris to throw the two mechanical scales, one at the stern and one at the bow, out and get a good set of digital scales to weigh them with. Scale technology has advanced as much or more than boat building tech in 30 years!!!

I bought myself a couple of digital crane scales last week. Nothing fancy, expensive or anything special but for $300, I'll take a chance on them. For $1000, you can get nice certified scales.
I can verify them to see how close they are before I post weights..........

[scj]

Whew,,,thanks Steve. I hope they check the Red for mine cause there is going to be a bunch of it!! If someone will buy my Maelstrom 23 then I will have a place for the new garage queen, then I can be like my mentor Hensley, a XR02 that never gets wet and a Hemi that gets started and put away:D:leaving:

Well, you better get back to cleaning out a space; my boat is supposed to start production this week...........

[SANTAFE]

Well, you better get back to cleaning out a space; my boat is supposed to start production this week...........

I am puling for you, but I will believe it when I see it. I hope you will post some pics.

[scj]

Not sure what's to believe as two of the four XR's are built waiting on trailers to arrive.

[90 5.0]

And another nice 2002 popped up for sale now since I got my 01. They are everywhere now. Couldn't find one when I was looking dang it LOL

[thunter764]

Steve I think the crowd is getting anxious for some pics!!

I have made progress getting some room but not enough....time to get busy!

[props4u2]

I am puling for you, but I will believe it when I see it. I hope you will post some pics.


Believe it.

scj speaks the truth.

[patchesII]

Thanks Eric

What's everyone's thoughts between racing an XR-2001 vs. an XR-2002 if the weights were equal?
Which is the better driving boat?

The new bottom XR2001's are easier to drive but neither are difficult. The 2002 is very quick and I think gives up very little to a 2001 in the short track. I think the wider pad of he 2002 starts hurting it as speeds go over 100 but I have no data to support that. I love them both

[scj]

Steve I think the crowd is getting anxious for some pics!!

I have made progress getting some room but not enough....time to get busy!

Nancy is dead set on having nice photos taken with the boat on the trailer outside of the shop! She does not allow pictures taken from inside the buildings to be posted on-line.
Boatmate is building the tandem XR trailers first which includes the race boat heading to Kentucky and my trailer. So, if I were to guess, Nancy will post pictures of the second boat built before she does Lee's. It is white with black stripes and string steering.

When I take possession of my boat, there will be pictures posted and, I will show pictures of my boat hanging on a set of scales as well..............

[SANTAFE]

I definitely believe it. Just can't wait to see pictures. Allison's are about the sexiest boats out there in my opinion. SS 2000 being my favorite to look at.

[patchesII]

White with black stripes and cable steering???? I want that boat. Lol

[SSTOM]

:thumbsup:I can't wait for it to get to KY so I can drool all over it.

[scj]

:thumbsup:I can't wait for it to get to KY so I can drool all over it.

They're still engineering a new steering system for that boat. I think they're waiting on a longer steering shaft as Darris wants the cables/pulleys mounted in a certain place.


Best news so far (for me) is that my deck is getting sprayed this morning! Hull gets sprayed Monday! Finally going to see some blue paint..........

[LongShot]

When I put my string steering in the 1986 XR 2002 I had Nick machine me up an angled helm mount to bring the steering wheel down in elevation and to make the angle of the pulleys on the steering shaft more aligned with the pulleys in the rub rail. The back of the boat is where it gets interesting. Getting the dead end of the cable anchored correctly for the type of steering arms you are using. That is where I stopped as I want the mid and lower mounted and transom height set before nailingthe anchors. That plus I got side tracked on 20 other projects and honey do's....

[Michael J Giesler]

Contact Nick Winski at wintech he has the trick set up i know Bill G Allison all his cables are hidden very nicely done i know Darris saw it at jasper a couple of years ago

[scj]

I know Darris has the routing concealed from front to rear now and there's an exit point he designed into the new boats at the rear. Putting the steering shaft end and cables out in front of the drivers feet I think is his goal for the change.

[90 5.0]

Speaking of string steering, do people normally rig grommets or some other rubber around the holes inside the hull the steering passes through? My cables look like they could rub against the bare wood in there?

[scj]

I believe Darris said he was using bronze or copper bushings.....definitely not rubber or something that would grab the cables.

[90 5.0]

Thanks mine is just holes in bare wood with cables running through.

[Tomanytoys]

Speaking of string steering, do people normally rig grommets or some other rubber around the holes inside the hull the steering passes through? My cables look like they could rub against the bare wood in there?

I ran my cables through blocks of UHMW plastic.
Drill a hole, pass the cable through then fasten the block to the bulkhead.
Clean, tidy, no friction and it's cheap.
If you have a snowmobile dealer in the area just go buy a slider and cut it up into 3" or 4" pcs.

[90 5.0]

No snowmobile dealers in south east Texas!! But I can probublay get some scrap uhmw from work. Thanks for the tip.

[scj]

There are three 2016 XR-2002's in existence now. Mine is supposedly the only all Bahama Blue XR-2002 ever built. We'll see how it looks here in a couple of days when they take it out of the molds............

They built me an older style XB console for my boat. Anyone have a CNC that can make a custom bezel so I can fit a 7" touch Lowrance?

[Michael J Giesler]

They built 2 Bahama blue xr 2002 along time ago yours will be the new Bahama blue is a little lighter in color compared to the original racerx had a drag Bahama blue one

[thunter764]

Good deal Steve, That has got to look awesome. Thanks for keeping us in the loop!

All this talk of string steering caused me to see if they could change my order!

[LongShot]

Use PVC tubing to sheath the cables from front to back. I brought mine out where the old ride/guide cable used to exit. Glassed the PVC in with epoxy resin. It won't slap around like a Drag boat that way. If it tripped your trigger you could plug the PVC where it exits the cap and bush it with a non-galling material like delrin. No real need as the wing plates that screw down to the deck hide them. The XR2001 had/has copper tubing where it exited the cap. It was pretty poor looking.

My steering came from Nick and it is all helm mounted. No funky steering shaft going all the way down to a flanged bearing in the floor of the boat. I hope that isn't what they are doing on these new boats....

I am going old school on this 1986. ABS dash panels and vintage gauges. You can see the angled plate behind the helm mount. I had Nick machine it so the angle of the steering shaft was not such that it had the wheel too high once I got it back to where I was comfortable in the seat. We even machined in the angles of the dash at the top and bottom of the helm mount so everything fits up nice and flush. Still haven't decided on a steering wheel yet. Tempted to restore the original Grant 4 spoke that was correct for the boat. They are heavy but definitely have the cool factor.

[patchesII]

That's cool Dave! I like your little toy store

[LongShot]

That's cool Dave! I like your little toy store

Just old wood haulers Erik....can't afford these new fancy rigs. Gotta make do with old junk.

[patchesII]

They built 2 Bahama blue xr 2002 along time ago yours will be the new Bahama blue is a little lighter in color compared to the original racerx had a drag Bahama blue one

I really think the two old XR2002's are Petty Blue. I've never seen another Allison the color blue that Loser's boat was. Bret Hamilton's 2001 is a little darker than Petty so it would probably be the closest. Can't wait to see these new boats

[LongShot]

There is one close to Pete Elliott isn't there? One of the 1997's in blue. Galen had an XR2001 that was Bahama blue.

[Corona Mike]

What Color Blue Was The XR01 That Kevin Mumford Had/Has?

[Chummy]

off topic but there was a gray with red wing tipped xr2002 that I saw at Jasper for the river run one year. super sharp and never saw another one like that color

[StratosVT]

off topic but there was a gray with red wing tipped xr2002 that I saw at Jasper for the river run one year. super sharp and never saw another one like that color

This one? It's probably the best looking xr2002 I've seen. Would love to have it. Took this pic in 2005.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/seikonut/Jasper0520015_zpsno9pb6rj.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/seikonut/media/Jasper0520015_zpsno9pb6rj.jpg.html)

Unfortunately I lost the original size (better quality pic) and this shrunk down version is all I have.

[Chummy]

That's the one!! Such a great looking boat

[90 5.0]

That is sharp I like that!

Anyway does anyone know what the name or color code of that grey is, I was thinking of something close to that or a little darker or mariner grey for the base color for my boat.

Thanks!

[bullwhipjkg]

there is a blue one in buna tx which is close to us not sure of year but we don't see it much

[LongShot]

They just dont look right without a 12" mid. Would like to build a 9" mid for one.

[props4u2]

Just old wood haulers Erik....can't afford these new fancy rigs. Gotta make do with old junk.


I call:icon_bs:on that one. :D

[scj]

Humm, I was told there were no all Bahama blue XR-2002's ever built or mine would have been all orange..........

Too late now though so hopefully mine will be the only 2016 all Bahama blue........

I've seen a lot of Bahama blue XB-2002's and a XR-2001 but never seen a picture of a XR-20002 that color. Never seen a gray one either until the picture above was posted. That's a good looking boat btw!

[patchesII]

It has grey stripes. It is a good looking boat. 89 model

http://i49.tinypic.com/5ww5cz.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/t67brk.jpg

[LongShot]

I call:icon_bs:on that one. :D

All true Mr. Lee. Fixed income from Uncle Sam and ALCOA doesn't hardly buy groceries and beer. The reason they never get out of the shop is I can't afford good oil and gas to run them.

[90 5.0]

They just dont look right without a 12" mid. Would like to build a 9" mid for one.

Very few classes you can run an xr in allow 12" mids , down here anyway. Most have a 15" mid minimum length.

Which sucks, I would love to have a 12" on my XR...

[props4u2]

I hear you Dave, :confused: just go out back and dig up a few jars. :D

[props4u2]

There is also a solid gray XR-2002 in the Myrtle Beach area.

[LongShot]

"I hear you Dave, :confused: just go out back and dig up a few jars. :D"

^^^^^ I wish!!!!

[oneshot]

When I got my XB 2002 they told me mine was the first XB that they ever done solid Bahama Blue. The drag boat I have use to be solid petty Blue it came from Crown Leisure Marine. I like them blue boats

[Michael J Giesler]

Very few classes you can run an xr in allow 12" mids , down here anyway. Most have a 15" mid minimum length.

Which sucks, I would love to have a 12" on my XR...

Pro gas 12" mid and go baby go lol

[Chummy]

It has grey stripes. It is a good looking boat. 89 model

http://i49.tinypic.com/5ww5cz.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/t67brk.jpg

That's really pretty, never seen that one before

[90 5.0]

Pro gas 12" mid and go baby go lol

maybe one day, but want to stay with a milder set up for a while at least to get more seat time! pro gas right out the gate prolly isn't a good idea LOL

[patchesII]

I went Outlaw right out the gate. I had a 12" on my XR2002 and I wanted to go racing. At the time Pro Gas was still 1/4 mile and I had no interest in that so Outlaw it was. That was back when we had 7-8 boats at a race so I could find somebody that wouldn't knock my head off. I did have an 05 Drag motor and the boat would get to 1190 so it ran decent. Sometimes wish I still had that setup knowing what I know now. I could get it to 1130 today and put it on alcohol. It would run good, the XR2002's are quick boats with that wide pad. Ran 3 races with that boat and moved to my XR2001

[John S]

So are we gonna see some pics of these new XR's, or do we haft to wait for the 23' GS to come out first?

[SSTOM]

342018 solid light grey one 86 model :D

[scj]

So are we gonna see some pics of these new XR's, or do we haft to wait for the 23' GS to come out first?

Whenever the trailers arrive............

[mikesufka]

so are we gonna see some pics of these new xr's, or do we haft to wait for the 23' gs to come out first?

lol !!!!

[tblanchard]

Can't wait to see a new one my self I will have a bahama blue to match the the 2015 drag that took the place of my xr-2002 when I receive the bad news that the guys that I was with trying to get the new xr-2002 pulled away I show wish I would have waited. Great job guys getting these hulls back

[scj]

Well, you'll know what it'll look like shortly..............

[bigtis]

What's the deal?????????????????? Inquiring minds wanna see!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scj]

Nancy is buried with a complete overhaul of their network system so pictures have taken a back seat.

I seen the tandem trailer in the shop last week so there should be no reason a few cannot be taken............I'm going to be in the neighborhood tomorrow so I'll ask.

My boat will be out of the molds tomorrow so I may lose focus with all the blue in the room........:D

[BarryStrawn]

You guys need to be patient:) When I bought my XR-2002 in 1983 I hadn't seen so much as a sketch until the day I picked it up.

[BarryStrawn]

Check this price from the good old days. And I thought the dollar was getting worthless then.
342512

[JPEROG]

That was a lot of money in 83'. The thing that I always think about now is that my first house payment was around $900.00 when I was 21 and I was so scared that I was going to struggle to make it. Now my taxes and insurance are that much, its really sad what the dollar has done.

Joe

[BarryStrawn]

That was a lot money in 1983 and glad I got a healthy discount. The price from Allison was bare fiberglass with the rub rail. Not even the transom was bored. Total ended up around a year's take home pay with a new Evinrude and the rigging. So they seem silly expensive now but not really much different after inflation.

[ally2dextreme]

Was at the plant and seen all the new XRs..Awesome!! There built like a tank and still look sexy as ever!! White with black stripes was beautiful!!

[thunter764]

All of them?? Did you see a red one? Steve you been holding out info from me?:eek:

[scj]

Tim, I haven't been in the shop for over a week. They didn't pop my boat out of the molds until last week so with any luck, yours will be sprayed soon if not already???

I'm pretty sure my boat is together but I cannot get there during their hours to see it. I need to make time soon as I have to set in the seat before they can mount it as mine will be bolted directly to the floor and then locate the shifter for mounting.

I know Darris is working on a couple of pieces that will complete the redesign and with any luck, I'll be mounting an engine on mine over the memorial day weekend.............

[thunter764]

Copy that Steve, sounds like you have been a busy man. If you hear or see anything let me know!

Hope you get your memorial day wish!

[LongShot]

T minus 28 days and counting !!!! Starting on my 1994 next week. Let the games begin!!! Trump in 2016!!!!!!!!!!!

[scj]

I may be a little partial but there's a really sharp blue XR-2002 at the Allison plant!

If all goes well, there will be a presentation next week.

[AZMIDLYF]

This blue Ally color combo has always been a favorite of mine...

343222

[scj]

This blue Ally color combo has always been a favorite of mine...

343222

That looks like Petty Blue to me on the bottom. The Bahama Blue I have is a little darker.
I know Darris likes Petty Blue and he's hoping someone orders one in that color............

We positioned the seat last night and finalized all the trim details as well.

I messed with the console a little but that is going to take some work to make it fit like I want it to. To me, it will look much better than the shields of yesteryear.

[specboatops]

Brian Hardens old boat if I remember right....

[luv4h2o]

Somebody please post a pic!! I am dying to see a new one.. This is the first thing I check every morning!! LOL

[scj]

They're finishing up Tim's boat and then pictures will be on Allison's Facebook page next week......

[ally2dextreme]

They look just like ever XR 2002 you've ever seen...

[speedinstream]

They look just like ever XR 2002 you've ever seen...
So do boobs but we still want to see them all

[Tomanytoys]

So do boobs but we still want to see them all
LMFAO!!
you made coffee come out my nose!

[skewby]

just like a woman in a shoe store. got to see every pair

[bigtis]

So do boobs but we still want to see them all
Bro, that's like the best frigin comment ever lmfao.

[LongShot]

Saw all 4 of them today. Very nice. I like the changes Darris made. Don't think they added the kind of weight that was advertised..

[Tomanytoys]

Saw all 4 of them today. Very nice. I like the changes Darris made. Don't think they added the kind of weight that was advertised..

We talkin boobs still or are we back to boats?

[LongShot]

Boats. The others cost more money and get you in trouble.

[scj]

I don't know, you could buy a hell of a set of boobs for what a 280 is going to cost...........

[LongShot]

^^^^ I disagree as I would want them with all the options. Divorce at 62 years old would be uber expensive. You better come get this motor. You would be hard pressed to find a cleaner one. I have a 260 sitting here you can run until the other one is ready. Or if you want the baddest of the bad I have a fresh 2005 300 Drag we can dress out and you would be set.

[scj]

Options; a 30 YO to come with them???? :D

Back to boats...........All the trailers are there and all the boats will be complete today (less windshields). I'm having them change my wheels on the trailer as they look terrible for a race boat trailer.

[LongShot]

18-40 YO. With a mute button.

[whipper]

Im awaiting tomorrow with baited breath.:D Cant wait to see these bad boy XR2002,s

[thunter764]

For us facebookers that rarely get on the site, someone please post a link or put the pics on here

[rocko71]

I can't get accepted on the facebook page, I use my wifes facebook. Can someone help me out? I'd like to see them too..

[mikesufka]

For us facebookers that rarely get on the site, someone please post a link or put the pics on here

+2002

Nothing on allyowners forum either. That site is really dead.

MDS

[specboatops]

Count me in on that too, cannot get on to view, someone PLEASE post some pics, would love to see the new ones.

[scj]

I was told yesterday the main presentation will be on their home age and links to that on their facebook page.........

[Esox4130]

On the Allison owners Facebook page some pictures are up. Look killer

[skewby]

http://forum.allisonowners.com/index.php?attachments/img2120003e-jpg.10511/

[skewby]

http://forum.allisonowners.com/index.php?attachments/imgf2100a8-jpg.10512/

[skewby]

http://forum.allisonowners.com/index.php?attachments/imgbe720546-jpg.10513/

[skewby]

http://forum.allisonowners.com/index.php?attachments/photo1451-jpg.10514/

[skewby]

http://forum.allisonowners.com/index.php?attachments/photo1452-jpg.10515/these are whats posted so far on allison owners

[thunter764]

Does anyone see the pics by skewby? I see nothing but a blank icon

Thanks for the pics Whipper

[scj]

I don't think those are the pictures they were taking for the presentation..........

[mikesufka]

Pictures on allyowners site

[thunter764]

Hey is that a red one in the back I see?

[patchesII]

Do we have premature picture posting going on? I think somebody jumped the gun

[whipper]

Yes Patches thats why they were removed for now. haha Got orders from the man. haha:D ooops nice teaser until later anyway.

[90 5.0]

Try realize the free advertising and publicity they've killed my pulling them down now right??

that fb post had tons of hits and some good discussion going on.

Glad I saved the picks of the white and black one it was sharp!!!

[MODVP22]

Try realize the free advertising and publicity they've killed my pulling them down now right??

that fb post had tons of hits and some good discussion going on.

Glad I saved the picks of the white and black one it was sharp!!!

I saw that black and white one, wondered if it was one of the new one's just built. I wish I would have taken a closer look

[scj]

http://www.allisonboats.com/content/uncategorized/1809/all-american-classic/

[Cp]

WOW. Now that's more like it. They look incredible, just like I knew they would. Thanks Darris and Nancy for the the immaculate design and construction. I'm going out to look for a buried coffee can in the back yard now.

[JohnG]

What engine are you guys using ?

[Cp]

Hopefully something REALLY short and light.

[thunter764]

The red one will get a 15 inch 225 promax

[scj]

The blue one is getting a 15" 280

[whipper]

I saw that black and white one, wondered if it was one of the new one's just built. I wish I would have taken a closer look


Yes it was. ...:D

[AMERICANRAM]

Nice boat ..anyone know the out the door price without power...

[David]

There is an order form with pricing at Reynolds Racing marine. I don't know the whole story but I think the original poster had a role in making this happen and would deserve support.

[AMERICANRAM]

There is an order form with pricing at Reynolds Racing marine. I don't know the whole story but I think the original poster had a role in making this happen and would deserve support.

I just checked there web page the boat list for $28,500.00...that's $28,500.00 stripped (theres a whole bunch of extras you can put on it..see order form)....and NO trailer and power

[jas638]

I just checked there web page the boat list for $28,500.00...that's $28,500.00 stripped (theres a whole bunch of extras you can put on it..see order form)....and NO trailer and power

thats one expensive bag of potato chips, oh wait... thats just one chip. or should i say thats a lot of clams for one little potato chip. lol

[whipper]

Like this one also. Always loved the interior layout of te XR02. Looks Sharp and bloody fast sitting there!! http://www.allisonboats.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Red-XR.jpg

[AMERICANRAM]

Like this one also. Always loved the interior layout of te XR02. Looks Sharp and bloody fast sitting there!! http://www.allisonboats.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Red-XR.jpg

and it all can be yours just for the asking price ...good luck

[scj]

Mid $20's to lower $30's and that "is" with a trailer. That's with lounge cushions, two seats, hydraulic steering and a 6"/7 1/2" jackplate standard equipment.

[scj]

and it all can be yours just for the asking price ...good luck

I'm sure the boat in your signature was free...............

If you're serious about an XR, Lee will give you an actual quote. If you read the first couple of pages in this thread, he provides the pricing.

[mikesufka]

The red XR is beautiful - congrats to owner.

Fun things are rarely free - so you either do or you don't ....

MDS

[MODVP22]

Like this one also. Always loved the interior layout of te XR02. Looks Sharp and bloody fast sitting there!! http://www.allisonboats.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Red-XR.jpg

is this a new one also?

[bb18]

Fun things are rarely free - so you either do or you don't .... Well said!MDS

[whipper]

is this a new one also?

Yes it is a 2016, 100% composite zero rot 100% fast. :D Should be a teens easy to lower 120s with a stout 260. I think a new 2016 XR2002 deserves a 12 or 15 inch CRT!!! Would that not be an insane quick boat!! :reddevil:

[LongShot]

No windshields yet?

[allisonriverrat]

As usual!!! Works of art!!! Mr sandersons. Is my fav...
... But they are all beautiful... What were the weights?

[whipper]

What one is Lees? If ya look close you can see the wind shield.:D http://www.allisonboats.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Finishing-Touch.jpg

[cody620]

The all white is Lees

[thunter764]

I asked the same thing on the windshield for the red one and they are working on it..just dont think it made it in time for the photo.

As for the pricing, yes it is expensive but if you compare it to an STV its in the same range. Go to the Miami boat show if you want to really get shocked. I have had 2 25 Talons that cost 30k. Hustler had a brand new one there I was foaming at the mouth for...Show special was $144,000. Gulp

[whipper]

I asked the same thing on the windshield for the red one and they are working on it..just dont think it made it in time for the photo.

As for the pricing, yes it is expensive but if you compare it to an STV its in the same range. Go to the Miami boat show if you want to really get shocked. I have had 2 25 Talons that cost 30k. Hustler had a brand new one there I was foaming at the mouth for...Show special was $144,000. Gulp

True and these hulls are some of the quickest in the 1/4 outboard Vee hulls on the PLANET! Ferraris,lambos ect are smaller also and cost a bundle! Great things come in small packages.:cheers:

[scj]

343812

It has the windshield on it in this picture.

Tim,
They offer multiple size windshields and the ones on the boats in the pictures are just temporarily installed. No drilling was done.
I'm taking Lee a couple different sizes so he can choose.

[LongShot]

I asked the same thing on the windshield for the red one and they are working on it..just dont think it made it in time for the photo.

As for the pricing, yes it is expensive but if you compare it to an STV its in the same range. Go to the Miami boat show if you want to really get shocked. I have had 2 25 Talons that cost 30k. Hustler had a brand new one there I was foaming at the mouth for...Show special was $144,000. Gulp
Bring the I/O with you when you pick up the XR2002. If I like it cut me a deal, you owe me...remember:) After a day on the lake if I don't like it I will tow it back to WF.

[thunter764]

Bring the I/O with you when you pick up the XR2002. If I like it cut me a deal, you owe me...remember:) After a day on the lake if I don't like it I will tow it back to WF.

Dave I will be more than happy to tow it to you and cut you a deal...but I think my debt was paid in full ;)..and if I drop it off in TN that is where it stays..if you dont like it then you can part it out or park it next to the blown hemi and start them up on saturdays:D

[thunter764]

It has the windshield on it in this picture.

Tim,
They offer multiple size windshields and the ones on the boats in the pictures are just temporarily installed. No drilling was done.
I'm taking Lee a couple different sizes so he can choose.

Ah, must have missed that pic...I think I was distracted by the shifter sticking up 5 inches over the side of the boat..Wish they could have done that better.:rolleyes:

I wonder how a red tinted windshield would look....

Thanks for the info and picture Steve.

[LongShot]

Dave I will be more than happy to tow it to you and cut you a deal...but I think my debt was paid 10 fold with what you made on the yellow xb with the 280..and if I drop it off in TN that is where it stays..if you dont like it then you can part it out and make another killin on a boat I sold you.:D
Hmmmmmm.......sold a boat for you and paid you the asking price for yours....I guess. Must be common core math.:)

[scj]

Guys, I'm heading to Lee's here in a few minutes. I'll be coming back empty tomorrow if I can help you out, I don't mind...........

[thunter764]

Thanks Steve, Wish you could have brought a red boat down with you, that would have been a much shorter trip for me! Since it does not look like it will be done by Monday I am not sure when I can get there! Drive safe.

[scj]

I believe your boat is done???????
Did you hear different?