22ft Allison GrandSport who would buy one?

[whipper]

Ok just a little info first. There has been a 23ft Allison grand Sport plug made and tested a few times. She ran 87mph with a stock 225 3.0lt and a 27 pitch trophy during the first day of testing with no chine walking. It has new technology in her like zero chine walk hull,Deep Vee, more freeboard,wider and sexy looking as any Allison can be of course. Most of all is made to carry the 300xs,Yami SHO,E-Tech type power plants but was only tested with a 2.5 225 so far. Im thinking with the new rules in class7 they should make her a 22ft boat to be able to compete in that class. that would give the boat a purpose other than a general sport/Play boat.

The real purpose to this thread is to see how many people would actually buy one if they were 22ft and cost say around 45-55 grand without power No wood Kevlar reinforced sexy and fast!! Im sure if there was enough interest Allison would make some. So I thought what better place to find out what people think then post a thread like this on Scream and fly:D

The original plug is around a 23fter. But Im thinking Darris should make her so she qualifys for class 7 racing also. that would open up the market a little more and interest. So we know the 23fter ran 87 with a 27 trophy and a 225. So its not to much to expect that the hull with a 300xs could run 100 with a 32 or 34 pitch prop. regardless she would be fast enough and last a life time. Who says they would buy such a boat post what ya think and if ya would or not. Thanks

[vnemous]

OK this is just my opinion. Most the teams running boats in class 7 do nothave a lot of money into the hulls. I would guess most have around $5000 or less in the hull. Some dont have that in the whole boat. It was started and stated many times to be a very affordable class to get started in racing. I cant see a lot of $45,000 boats being used. Also the Atlantic ocean is very rough on a hull if the pad is big, like the allisons or the v isnt very deep. I have run with a few allisons that couldnt stay with me in the rough but blew me off when the water flattened. JMO

[whipper]

Ill go second Hell ya!! Maybe even make me one with a bow rider area. I would probably go used 300xs to keep the cost down from buying a new boat. But I wouldn't need anything bigger. She would solve the Allison issue with 3.0lt motors on there sport boats and that extra size to destroy the wake boat wakes that haunt me in my sleep!! :reddevil:

Good points vnemous. lets say in the future class7 as the pre owned boats hit the market. Your right who would want to beat there brand new hull. Yes they will deep vee hulls. a much larger version of the grand sport. Almost a foot wider and a deep vee with tons of freeboard.

[Corona Mike]

This Will Be A SUPER Nice Boat When (IF) They Ever Decide To Put It In Production. I Wish That Merc. Hadn't Discontinued The Hi-Po Opti Line And It Would Make It Even Better. One Thought, With The Intro. Of These New Hi-Po 4-Strokes That Weigh More, It Seems To Me Instead Of Making It Shorter, That He Would Want To Make It Longer... Maybe A 24'. Seems Like That Would Be A Better Balance To Me. One Thing For Sure, The Price Tag...As With ANY Boat That Size With NEW Power...Will Be A Hard Pill To Swallow! By The Time You Power It, Rig It, And Add The "Creature Conforts" That You Would Want On A Boat Like That You Are Looking At 80K I'll Bet!:eek: Also, Darris Needs To Find Someone To Build A Aluminum Trailer That He's Satisfied With Because, The "Rust-Mates":icon_bs: He Uses On All His Outher Boats Don't Do Well In The Salt! Just My $.02.... Oh To Answer Your Original Question...Hell Yes If I Had An Extra $75/80-GRAND Lying Around I'd Order It Today!:D:D:thumbsup::cheers:

[upyours]

Nobody will buy one they will never be built and if they were you would have to buy 3 and they would cost $100000.00 each

[fastdonzi.]

Hell Yeah, I was leaning toward a GS for my next boat anyway. They are already Awesome, If you could make Awesome better it would be Awesomer, And that is Awesome :)

[Corona Mike]

You Know...Just Thinkin' About This Again.... IF THEY Were To Build It, And IF IT Was A 24' That 15" 400 Verido:eek: That All The Guys On The Other Threads Are Talking About Would Be The Shutzis!:D:D Would Look Like A S.S.2000 On Steroids!! Think I'll Start Selling Plazma Now!:cheers::cheers:

[whipper]

Hell Yeah, I was leaning toward a GS for my next boat anyway. They are already Awesome, If you could make Awesome better it would be Awesomer, And that is Awesome :)

X2 Thats what I call the awesomest!!

The point isn't weather or not Allison will its what if he would. And 100 grand for a 23 ft Vee bottom? Show me one. The 20.3ft GS is under 30 grand so how ya get 70 more grand to build one 2 1/2 feet longer a little wider and deeper? They will be around half that last time I asked for the 23fter. So would you buy one for 50 and throw on your power if you could afford a new boat or were in the market for new is the Question ?

[whipper]

Mike im sure you've seen these spy shots. There not that revealing for sure. Its the new 23ft GS plug hull with an already made 20ft SS deck stretched and plastered on for testing. Note how wide the hull is on the trailer for the 20fters. Mine doesn't stick over the fenders at all. the whole hull is within. The free board is way more also. 87 with a bone stock old 225 3.0lt and a 27 wheel!! she looks alot bigger!http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/whipperr/Mobile%20Uploads/20140816_141108_zpsc4b932f4.jpg (http://s63.photobucket.com/user/whipperr/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140816_141108_zpsc4b932f4.jpg.html) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/whipperr/DSCF119224ftGS.jpg (http://s63.photobucket.com/user/whipperr/media/DSCF119224ftGS.jpg.html) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/whipperr/DSCF119324ftGSE.jpg (http://s63.photobucket.com/user/whipperr/media/DSCF119324ftGSE.jpg.html)

[Corona Mike]

Yes I Have Seen Those Before. My Nephew Saw It...Probably The Same Boat...In January When He Was On Vacation. I Feel The Boat Will Go Into Production Due To The Current New Motor Power Options That Are Out There...And That Will NEVER Improve!...Just Like The New Bigger Bass Boats. If Someone That Wasn't Rich But Had Very Good Credit, A Completly New Boat/Motor/Trailer Is Much Easier To Finance Verses A New 201?? Boat And Trailer And A Used 2010 (+/-) Motor. I'd Still Love To Have A 23/24' With That New 15" 400...Talk About Cool!!! But, That Would Be 100K By The Time It Would Be Over With! That's To Rich For My Blood At This Stage In My Life! BTW, My Nephew Told Me They Even Had A Pontoon Boat They Were Tinkering With!

[RichS]

I want 1! When can I pick it up:D A 400X 3.6L would be my pick for power;) Of course building my own HP helps keep the total $'s down... I might even get my wife to ride in that:rolleyes:

[props4u2]

Whipper,
For the record, the boat has only been tested with a 3.0L 225 Sport XS, not a 2.5L 225 as you stated.
Darris, Nancy, my wife and myself went out cruising in it one day last year. I accused Darris of using us for dead weight to see how it would do. It was very impressive by the way.
It will make to production, but it has to be as close to perfect as humanly possable before that will happen.

[props4u2]

I want 1! When can I pick it up:D A 400X 3.6L would be my pick for power;) Of course building my own HP helps keep the total $'s down... I might even get my wife to ride in that:rolleyes:


I don't know about that last sentence Rich. She's seen you drive before. :reddevil::D
(Sorry couldn't resist)

[whipper]

Whipper,
For the record, the boat has only been tested with a 3.0L 225 Sport XS, not a 2.5L 225 as you stated.
Darris, Nancy, my wife and myself went out cruising in it one day last year. I accused Darris of using us for dead weight to see how it would do. It was very impressive by the way.
It will make to production, but it has to be as close to perfect as humanly possable before that will happen.

Thats awesome you got to ride in her! I corrected the promax to a 3.0lt. Someone who saw her at the rally told me it was a promax. Ether way that is even more impressive to me since the promax is probably stronger.:D Did you guys do that 87mph with 4 of you in the boat with a 225 or was that solo? Hears another Question for you Lee do you as a dealer feel there is a market for this boat? Some say there's not but I couldnt disagree more. 21-23ft are bulk of all the boats at the lake in the summer around hear. i would say 90% are 22-23ft. The nice thing about this size it opens up some intercoastle boating on nice days on the chuck on the west coast. Bigger lakes also. 300xs , E-tech or SHO would be my power of choice.

[mikesufka]

As I said on Allisonowners, I don't think it's big enough to justify the expense. I'd rather own a Grandsport or go big and get a twin cat.

MDS

[whipper]

If you can store in a heated garage bigger than 23ft at no addition cost i would to. i think it all boils down to what you need not want.Storage or not. Year round morage fees,room in the yard ,uses like skiing tubbing with the kids ect... All the normal criteria one should always consider when buying a boat. If I could keep a 30fter in my garage i would. Also I would need to up grade my truck. These are all things to consider. skiing behind much bigger than 23fter wouldnt be much fun also. So if you just want to look good drive fast and can keep the boat at the lake and not have to launch her every single day or drive threw town every day bigger works. its all a matter of what ya want from your boat and how you want to use it.
One more thing:] you start getting much bigger than a 23ft Allison and you start loosing that neck break acceleration and maneuverability. tats the fun factor of these boats for alot of us.At 23ft with a stock 300xs my guess if that's still there. Launching everday buy your self isnt as much of a chore also. its not about the cost its about the useability and what you want in a boat and were ya boat that matters the most. i would love a 33ft 5000HP Skater. But i wouldnt use it near as much as one like this.

[MODVP22]

Whipper,
For the record, the boat has only been tested with a 3.0L 225 Sport XS, not a 2.5L 225 as you stated.
Darris, Nancy, my wife and myself went out cruising in it one day last year. I accused Darris of using us for dead weight to see how it would do. It was very impressive by the way.
It will make to production, but it has to be as close to perfect as humanly possable before that will happen.

I hope it gets to production before it's not relevant anymore. I'd take one, tandem trailer, swing-a-way tongue, with brakes, pre-rigged-I'll add my engine. Open Bow???

[Greg G]

I heard a rumor that the two 225X motors that just got sold on this site were bought by the Allison folks for the new 23 to test it with twins.

[Michael J Giesler]

I've said it before if he built a 26'-30' twin engine boat with a cubby cabin it would sell but the new gs is just to much money for what it is you still would have a hard time on the great lakes or other big water with it

[Stoker1]

It still won't outrun a Checkmate w/same power-! :D:leaving:

[MODVP22]

I heard a rumor that the two 225X motors that just got sold on this site were bought by the Allison folks for the new 23 to test it with twins.

Hmm..what maybe an all aluminum small block ;)

[Michael J Giesler]

It still won't outrun a Checkmate w/same power-! :D:leaving:


Seriously your joking right no checkmate will out run a ally and i like checkmates to my favorite is a 28'outboads

[dcarter]

Someone mentioned a trailer that hold up well in salt water. For flats boats there is somewhat of a cult following for Ameratrail trailers. They are made in central florida and you can order them with as much custom materials as you want. He may want to meet with the owners and see what they will do. They are sturdy for salt water and fit like a glove.

http://www.ameratrail.com/

[Corona Mike]

It still won't outrun a Checkmate w/same power-! :D:leaving:


Now THAT's Funny Rite There!!:D:D:D:cheers:

[FishingBen]

I Will Buy One!

[kj mac]

I'm still waiting for the 23'

[CUDA]

I've said it before if he built a 26'-30' twin engine boat with a cubby cabin it would sell but the new gs is just to much money for what it is you still would have a hard time on the great lakes or other big water with it

Mike your so right , I owned a 24 Checkmate once and I took it off shore and was very upset how it ran , 26'+ a cabin with a head is a MUST.

[baja200merk]

I want 1! When can I pick it up:D A 400X 3.6L would be my pick for power;) Of course building my own HP helps keep the total $'s down
What do you know about HP?

Kevin :D

[whipper]

They have been testing the GS in a 23 from the original 24 for so long now pretty sure that's what she will be for length. One thing about Darris as Lee said she will be as close to perfection as Darris can make her before anyone else gets there hands on one. Im sure she will be all of that! Ya might be expensive for most people but for the ones that can afford a new boat that fits in most garages she will be quite the piece of work and perform like all Allison s. Top of the food chain for there size and purpose with the least amount of power.:cheers: I better start selling plasma now to!:D

[David]

For me, 18-20 foot is the ideal size. Bigger won't fit my garage and won't fit on my marine railway.

A bigger boat is too big for good slalom skiing. I also like the feel of smaller boats. More connected to the water.

Do marine railways exist in the US? My brother made ours out of aluminum, but you can get the idea from the link below.
http://www.naylorsystems.com/marine-railways.html

[Greg G]

Sure they do. We had a marine railway in CT for 30 years. Then we had Sandy. Is the Allison a 23' running surface or is that 23' LOA including swim platform. 23' on the money is a very unique size in the go fast world. Just think of how many different 24' hulls there are, but no 23 footers.

[FishingBen]

It's 23-ish from tip of the nose to tip of the sponsons. It is being designed to take up no more room on the trailer with the swingaway tongue pulled back than the 21 foot boats. It will fit in a standard garage. I will have one in my garage! :-)

[Donat]

[QUOTE=whipper;2737109]Mike im sure you've seen these spy shots. There not that revealing for sure. Its the new 23ft GS plug hull with an already made 20ft SS deck stretched and plastered on for testing. Note how wide the hull is on the trailer for the 20fters. Mine doesn't stick over the fenders at all. the whole hull is within. The free board is way more also. 87 with a bone stock old 225 3.0lt and a 27 wheel!! she looks alot bigger!http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/whipperr/Mobile%20Uploads/20140816_141108_zpsc4b932f4.jpg (http://s63.photobucket.com/user/whipperr/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140816_141108_zpsc4b932f4.jpg.html) http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/whipperr/DSCF119224ftGS.jpg (http://s63.photobucket.com/user/whipperr/media/DSCF119224ftGS.jpg.html)
[/QUOTE
Bernico wannabe 🙈

[Ziemer]

Someone mentioned a trailer that hold up well in salt water. For flats boats there is somewhat of a cult following for Ameratrail trailers. They are made in central florida and you can order them with as much custom materials as you want. He may want to meet with the owners and see what they will do. They are sturdy for salt water and fit like a glove.

http://www.ameratrail.com/

Yep, they build a nice trailer. Actually, they've built a few Allison trailers over the years. They used my boat for one that was ordered through Reynolds back in '05/'06.

And Mike is right, although they may load and tow nice, those Boatmates aren't worth a crap in freshwater, let alone salt. :P

[props4u2]

Boatmate actually builds a very nice channel trailer for the Allison's now.
The tube trailers are actually a lot thicker steel than they were in the past also. I have seen even eariler galvanized tube trailers last ten years in very brackish water.

[H20WKD]

Hey Whip......

I'm Happy just as I am......Old & quick.;)

http://i59.tinypic.com/15p3kvd.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/o10daw.jpg

Bob

[obrien]

I'd love to have one but 45-55k with out power is rediculous

[Greg G]

Ok just a little info first. There has been a 23ft Allison grand Sport plug made and tested a few times. She ran 87mph with a stock 225 3.0lt. It has new technology in her, a Deep Vee, more freeboard. Most of all is made to carry the 300xs,Yami SHO,E-Tech type power plants but was only tested with a 2.5 225 so far. How many people would actually buy one if they were 22ft and cost say around 45-55 grand without power.

The original plug is around a 23fter. But Im thinking Darris should make her so she qualifys for class 7 racing also. that would open up the market a little more. So we know the 23fter ran 87mph so its not to much to expect that the hull with a 300xs could run 100 with a 32 or 34 pitch prop. Thanks


Whipper, for the record, the boat has only been tested with a 3.0L 225 Sport XS, not a 2.5L 225 as you stated. Darris, Nancy, my wife and myself went out cruising in it one day last year. I accused Darris of using us for dead weight to see how it would do. It was very impressive by the way. It will make it to production, but it has to be as close to perfect as humanly possable before that will happen.


I'd love to have one but 45-55k with out power is rediculous

If the "new" Allison ends up at 22 feet instead of 23 feet than it has a lot more competition in the new boat market. Allison is innovative, so I'm sure that 23 feet means more interior room. There are six brand new boats you can buy today that are 22 footers. They all cost $75k out the door. You can't buy any hi-performance OB hull that is a true 23 foot running surface. To go from 87mph with a 3L 225 to 100mph with a 300XS? That seems a touch optimistic. I also don't think Class 7 means a thing for selling these boats. These 23's will get sold to the go fast guy who still has to convince his wife that it can also double as a family boat. He wants only one boat that can do several things well.

Now if Allison ends up building a true "23" V, that will run even 95mph with a stock 300XS, they will have no problem selling those hulls for $50,000. There is only one other 23 foot OB out there to compete with and its a bit more expensive and slower.

[alli-runner]

Any updates on the new Grandsport?

[H20WKD]

Any updates on the new Grandsport?


4/11/17 picking up the new GS
This is Darris telling me....."you know there is a new larger GS in the works." :confused:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2hdnnrd.jpg

No conformation of how long the wait or how long the boat.

Bob
:cool:

[whipper]

Any updates on the new Grandsport?


Be another 10 years if ever. haha :rolleyes: Buy the time Darris makes it into production if ever ill be cruising around the strait on my 30fter. Its to bad because he is missing the boat on the buyers that can promote it for him. There will be fewer of this generation left that will care about what it is unless he makes it soon. The Tuff 24 is the new king of the hill . Now Darris has to play catch up so i doubt very much he wants to compete with Tuff. He will stick to the fishing boats and drag boats from what ive seen or he would have already had it to the market. I can see a 23ft Bass boat out of this hull but doubt very much hes interested any more in making a go fast sport boat other than the old GS XR02 and SS. They unfortunately just are becoming to small for mainstream water waterways these days. If the Allison its out within the next 2 years ill buy one but after that i just need to upgrade and size up. So it will be the 24ft tuff with a CRT motor for my needs. When Caldwell starts production of the CRT motor very very soon that will make the 24ft Tuff do over 110 with a single outboard. Very nice hull and i think Mark is creating a new legacy and forward thinking with this new hull hes making. He went from design stage to Full production in a shot time. Thats whats needed these days to meet the markets demands. The only boat Allison makes that accepts new power is the 21ft Bass boat. Other wise your stuck to the Low HP Motor or older becoming obsolete 2.5. I hate saying this but its true.

[Coupe427]

I wouldn't mind a 23' with a 300xs. Our waters are too friggin rough on the weekends for my V-21. I've been eyeing up the checkmate 24s lately so a GS in that size would be awesome.

[FASTROG]

My sentiments exactly! Not to mention some of us may be too old if we keep waiting.

[Hank W]

I will just keep my 1992 GS until I am either too old, too fat or both to get in & out of it (may be soon). I will keep digging through other guy's junk lightweight 2 strokes for lightweight rebuild-able power

[H20WKD]

Yep...this Old Fart will stick with the 'short' GS and ittybitty 200. ;)
http://i67.tinypic.com/v6jblf.jpg
Bob

[Farmer]

Now hold on a bit, I’m not saying I could afford one but look at the prices of new wake board boats or decked out bass boats there well in the $100’s. If he makes one and gets advertising to the people other then little race boat people “20 and below” it should work.

My brother has been running with this crowd for around 20 years now and it’s interesting how when he shows up at an event there’s quite a few people that know of him. That shows how small of a group scream and flyers are. Plus how many of you guys know who has owned at one point every boat that shows up for sale on here lol. In a few years these boats might be forced into instinct-ion. If he can market this larger boat to the new generations money makers it will broaden the group and bring more people into this “go fast” lifestyle. So we all don’t eventually die off taking our 2 stroke boats with us.

[mad dan]

those molds are gone,darris had them destroyed

[Michael J Giesler]

those molds are gone,darris had them destroyed

Seriously wow

[Da Bull]

I`m not surprised. How long has this new boat been in the works? Boat builders don`t take this long on a new design.

[CUDA]

Crazy Mad Dan would know ...

How ya doing buddy?

[DOUBLE J]

Yes the original plug was destroyed but... he’s been testing another plug for sometime....

[mikesufka]

Wait ... what molds are gone ? The "new" 22 or 23 foot Grandsport molds ?

MDS

[aeneas]

Interesting! Hope Allison makes something of it.

[H20WKD]

Ok....horsee's mouth, just talked to Bill @ 10:30am 4/2/18...nothings been destroyed.
Improvements only, still trying to get a handling concern eliminated.
:thumbsup:TBC

[David]

A V bottom with no chine walk would move our world forward - at least it would if anyone was designing building new hulls. Other than Tuff is anyone doing new hulls?

[marks86]

Kevin at progression is still building

[David]

A few are building hulls but I only see new designs from Tuff.

[nitro_rat]

Kevin at progression is still building


A few are building hulls but I only see new designs from Tuff.

As much as I like Progression I don’t think Kevin is doing any new designs. I guess there’s an argument for not messing with perfection!

I’ve heard Progression’s boxy lines and graphics criticized as “80’s” or “outdated,” but I prefer to think of them as “timeless” and “classic” good looks! Some of the “modern” design powerboats look terrible to me!

[xb03fs]

A V bottom with no chine walk would move our world forward - at least it would if anyone was designing building new hulls. Other than Tuff is anyone doing new hulls?


What fun is a boat that doesn’t require driver imput? Make the damn boat and give us a bow rider option

[Greg G]

Mike im sure you've seen these spy shots. There not that revealing for sure. Its the new 23ft GS plug hull with an already made 20ft SS deck stretched and plastered on for testing. Note how wide the hull is on the trailer for the 20fters. Mine doesn't stick over the fenders at all. the whole hull is within. The free board is way more also. 87 with a bone stock old 225 3.0l and a 27 wheel!! she looks a lot bigger!

So what ever happened with this 23 foot model? Dead??

[JR IN JAX]

I keep asking Bill when I can write a check and he assures me that it is still in the works.

[sick_nick]

its getting to the point where if they want to continue to support the 300hp motors on their boats their gonna have to release it. i'm sure they're making it then best it can be. every time a new motor comes out, they get taller and heavier it seems. What ever happened to compact and light weight outboards!?

[Noah Burns]

They're still out there, they have 9.9HP stickers on them now tho… :nonod:


its getting to the point where if they want to continue to support the 300hp motors on their boats their gonna have to release it. i'm sure they're making it then best it can be. every time a new motor comes out, they get taller and heavier it seems. What ever happened to compact and light weight outboards!?

[mikesufka]

Gentleman -

It's a year later .... what's the word on the "bigger Grandsport" ? Anyone heard anything ?

MDS

[JBS]

Get V21,they are like a GS on roids?

[FUJIMO]

...its official. its not going to happen...

[mikesufka]

...its official. its not going to happen...

Serious ? He scrapped it ?

MDS

[FUJIMO]

As I said on Allisonowners, I don't think it's big enough to justify the expense. I'd rather own a Grandsport or go big and get a twin cat.

MDS
...i agree with your earlier comment years ago, so no biggie...

[mikesufka]

...i agree with your earlier comment years ago, so no biggie...

I don't know - the way people are spending money now on toys, a ~ $75,000 Grandsport 23 with a 300R might sell like hotcakes :)

MDS

[JBS]

...its official. its not going to happen...

They could put a sport deck on that 21-ft bass boat that would be a sweet ride

[JR IN JAX]

I would buy one, even though today I ran my GSE from Palatka to Silver Glenn Springs across Lake George in the mid 70's/low 80s. I burned 14 gallons of fuel at that speed during the 96 mile R/T run. My 300XS seems to burn a lot of its fuel-used in the no wake zone.
No one believes my boat is 21 years old due to the yearly cosmetic work Jack does on it. With the pounding I give it, both my Hydrosteam's had hull failures with half the hours or less.

[Pulse186]

...its official. its not going to happen...

This thread started in 2015 so yeah, probably not going to happen.

[StratosVT]

I think you're fantasizing at $75k? Maybe for just the hull without a motor or trailer. The bass boats are $80-$90k+. Heck, 16" flats boats with 115hp Yamahas are going for $60's around here now.

[XstreamVking]

That's because some people are stupid enough to actually pay 60k for a 16' boat.

[StratosVT]

No, that's just reality! If you want a new high quality flats boat with a 4stroke, that's what it takes to get one.

[XstreamVking]

Many 16' fish boats for a lot less than 60k....But, if you want to spend 60k for a 20k boat be my guest.

Just one example of a nice 16' fish boat....https://www.southdadeskiffs.com/

[OceanMarine]

Sounds like theyve been working on this boat for over 10 years. Wish they would bring it to market already. :(

[Forkin' Crazy]

Sounds like theyve been working on this boat for over 10 years. Wish they would bring it to market already. :(

I think I would just get something else that you can actually buy... Tuff, Superboat, etc.

[David]

Allison pricing New 2021 Allison XB21 BASSPORT PRO ELITE, 75209 Dallas - Boat Trader (https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2021-allison-xb21-bassport-pro-elite-6705466/)

$85,000 for a 21 fishing boat with a 250V8. A 3 footer should cost more
$55,999 for a new current Grandsport with a 150

I love my SS2000, but if I wanted a bigger boat, I'd buy a Tuff 24 now rather then wait. The Tuff will be a high bar to match