View Full Version : best rough water boat

03-12-2003, 07:00 PM
what do you think the best rough water boat for speed is i think 21 foot shadow

03-13-2003, 02:50 PM

03-13-2003, 03:09 PM
This poll really needs to be deleted and re-done.


Half of these poll choices are offshore I/O boats. Few on this board typically haves a big interest in this type of hull (try the offshoreonly.com forums for helpful advice on those)

I don't see STV or Hyrostream HST anywhere...
:confused: :confused: :confused:

What the hell??

03-13-2003, 03:19 PM
Surely NOT my Vector!

03-14-2003, 06:48 PM
The best rough water boat and by far the strongest,is the 32ft Midnight Express,it has be in 25ft seas and its still in comition.Love it!!!!Goes through ruff water like a butter knife.

03-18-2003, 12:01 PM

03-18-2003, 08:28 PM
i couldn't fit all boats and hytrostreams and stvs suck in rough water

Barefoot Bob
03-18-2003, 09:07 PM
airide18.... who is doing the scuba diving with Nitrox?

03-18-2003, 09:40 PM
Its the guy driving it.

25 ft seas??? roll one for me.

03-19-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by PIT BULL
Its the guy driving it.

25 ft seas??? roll one for me.

I've been in 25ft seas, Green Canyon, in a 303ft seismic boat couldn't imagine being in 25fters in a 32ft boat.

03-19-2003, 05:26 PM
apache!!!! there is no substitute!!:D ;) :p :eek:

03-19-2003, 08:30 PM
Hey clean, dont be so loyal to a boat you sold. The next one you get might change your mind.

03-20-2003, 05:48 PM
Barefoot Bob....Me and my father spearfish using nitrox,we get a lot more bottom time over regular air.And were used to using it when we cave dive.

Barefoot Bob
03-20-2003, 08:23 PM
Barefoot Jeff was certified at 12 and was in Cozumel with us last year (14 years old) He was told by his instructor not to go below 50 feet. Because no one knows the long term results of nitrogen on you younger guys.

Of corse its imposable when diving wrecks and cavern's to stay above 50 feet. His max depth most of the time was 80 feet.

Like I said no one knows the long term results. He is kinda goofy at times but I think thats a normal 15 year old:D :rolleyes:

03-21-2003, 10:03 AM
I'm a long time caver, but have never been cave diving.

03-21-2003, 05:14 PM
Barefoot Bob...My family owns Ginne Springs,im not sure if your familiar with it but its one of the major spring clusters in FL.I learned how to dive when i was about 7 and took my first class when i was 11 but you arent allowed to get your card to you are 12 so i just waited a year,took advanced OW at 12,and a cavern class at 14,and a cave this past year.Ive been spearfishing with my dad for the last 3 or 4 years,at first i didnt like the feel of being 120miles offshore in 120-150ft of water,but i got used to it and now im hooked,my mom says im better with the gun than my dad now since im bringing on average 2-3 fish more than he is to the boat.:D

Barefoot Bob
03-21-2003, 05:44 PM
I have seen the fresh water underground springs in Florida on TV. Is that what your talking about?

03-22-2003, 05:56 PM

Rough Water, It sure isn't my V-King YT. 1 ft. or above FORGET it. You need to check for loose teeth when you get back:D

03-26-2003, 11:33 PM
I kinda like the Mates myself. :)

03-27-2003, 08:51 AM
Where did the idea of cougar or talon being rough water boats?
Velocitys have won more races then most of the boats on the pole. Not to mention the question isnt spacific enough, What size??? IO ot OB?? How rough??Lets trim down the question.

This is RUFF...

ken medendorp
03-27-2003, 09:31 AM
Wow Pit Bull how was the rentry and where was you boating?

03-28-2003, 05:18 PM
Easy question--------APACHE :D :D :D :D :D

03-28-2003, 05:31 PM
It's not a boat for the open seas but I've had mine for 9 years. I have never been in a boat that rides like that thing does, in
1.5+ft waves. It's awesome and you can still stay into it especially if there's two of you on board.

03-28-2003, 09:46 PM
A few miles out of Jones inlet.

03-28-2003, 10:12 PM
My Hydrostream was about a -10 very bad! My Ally is like WOW like a 9.5! It is nuts how good it is over waves!For a 800 lbs boat! Love it!!

03-31-2003, 10:54 PM
some guys dont see real rough water. Put me and my Velocity up against any boat close to its size and I will embarrass it, 24 Skaters included, once thay start to kite there done. I have plenty of seat time in a few different 24s there great in the chop but death in the slop. How can this pole exist without Velocity in it???

Terminal Velocity
04-02-2003, 03:55 PM
If you are talking about smaller boats that have the potential to be really fast, it is definitely a 22' Velocity.

If you are talking bigger boats, there are sooo many, ie Sonic, APache, Midnight Express (the original drug runner), Scorpion (not Chris Craft) Believe it or not, my buddy used to race the Avanti factory One boat and it carved water like a knife. The same guy will embarrass almost anyone in his new Kryptonite 29 with twin 2.5 efis.

Good luck with the results!

04-08-2003, 09:47 PM
This topic is hard to debate. Where comparing dogs to cats here. It should be divided into sizes of boats. 25 and under, 25 and over V-Hull. And so on for Cats.

04-22-2003, 08:48 PM

04-23-2003, 08:20 AM
Apache for the Vee's and Skater for the cats


04-26-2003, 09:58 PM
Id have to say this thing goes pretty good in the chop..

Terminal Velocity
04-28-2003, 09:35 AM
Nothin' smashes the rough stuff quite like an Apache! Great Pic!

04-28-2003, 08:49 PM
In the rough you want to be level, like this.

04-29-2003, 06:31 AM
i think you would have to say apache makes a pretty good cat as well.

04-29-2003, 12:54 PM
Over in the UK we race offshore in up to Force 7 occasionally and reguarly in force 4 to 5 - The boat below was built by us in the UK. I am the driver and the photo below was also captured on video and we estimate that we travelled in excess of 35 feet.

The boat is called a BananaShark, is 24' long, and is powered by a merc XR2 - 200HP V6 2.0 litre.

We compete in National European and World Championships against hard boats, and are currently ranked fourth in the World.

I would be confident of taking on any boat I know in rough conditions - with the 150 Litre bow tank filled she goes upwind very well indeed! :D

04-29-2003, 09:06 PM
Billy, Thirsday about 5:30 am to PA. You comin???

04-29-2003, 11:05 PM
nice pic of drambiue look for barcidi silver 188 mph same throtle man as drambiue my vote apach 47 triple 1000 nice ride at 100 mph in 5to6' seas and affordable boat was a 32' sunshine it handled 18' seas pretty well

05-01-2003, 04:06 AM
Pit Bull - how many do you want - I make them! :cool:

Click on the little www at the bottom and check out the website - new one coming soon though - it's last years!

05-01-2003, 02:56 PM
Whats the advantage of having the inflatable sponsons down the sides.. Weight , stability, both ???? Nice looking boats

05-03-2003, 04:05 AM
Pantera - it's just the design. The tubes actually weigh very little. When it gets a bit out of shape and it lands on the side a bit, they bounce us back straight again though!

05-03-2003, 07:30 AM
If the price is right. How much is a hull ready to rig?

05-05-2003, 06:31 AM
Pit Bull - We couldn't do 20! They are one at a time raceboats built to stand up to racing hard in english waters - to give you an idea, we have destroyed 3 lifters on these boats - 1 only lasted about an hour. All of these were sold as ok for much more HP than we are running - and ok for racing!

To answer your question, a bare hull complete with tubes (sponsons) would be about 17,500 english pounds plus shipping. If you wanted to race it or run offshore with it I would recomend a bow tank which we can fit for you. We are only a 2 man outfit running 2 raceboats and doing a plug for a leisure boat - all at the same time! so time can be a little short!

There are only 2 of these boats in existance so far, but we are currently placed 4th in the world Championships, and have won National and European races, so the boat isn't a dog!

Email address is on the (last years and soon to be updated) website: www.bananasharkracing.com


05-05-2003, 09:17 AM
How much in American??

05-05-2003, 10:22 AM
That would be about $28,000 depending on the rate at the time plus shipping. Probably sounds expensive, but there is a lot of work in them and the tubes (sponsons) are $3,200 a pair!