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Backfire
02-22-2003, 11:54 PM
They are 2-strokes. 2-cylinder 50-something cubes (58 I think, don't hold me to that), the 3-cylinder is 79 cubes. Many common parts with 60 degree V4 & V6's. Weight claim on web site ("up to 100 lbs lighter") based on heaviest competitor motor they could find. In searching around, I found 2 cylinder about 30 lbs heavier than lightest competitor (Honda) and the 3 cylinder about 20 lbs lighter than lightest competitor (Yamaha).

Powerheads share same pistons/rings - bore is same as 60 degree enignes. New intake system eliminates annoying oil drip some of the older Fichts experienced. 2 cyl has single throttle body, 3 cyl has dual t-body. Pistons made from new alloy developed by NASA, use full skirt, about 3 times stronger than traditional aluminum alloy pistons.

Oil manifold is same as they're using today, new oil injector. Microprocessor & programming determine oil metering. Claims on web site based on "E-TEC Oil" and optional oil map, also 50 hours is based on ICOMIA duty cycle. If all you do is troll, oil will last longer, if all you do is go fast, will use oil quicker.

Just as the electronics in our PC's has gotten smaller and do much more, these engines use an advanced processor to control the usual stuff (monitor inputs & control outputs, you know the drill). Much smaller package than toady's DI engines.

Fuel injector is nothing like Ficht system, completely different. Injector is bi-directional, not like a solenoid. Injection pressure (at nozzle) 500-600 psi range, fuel pressure in rails still 20-30 psi range. Fuel lift pump from the venerable 55 commercial.

25A charging system, rope startable - 1 pull (yes, ONE) the average adult strength pull, a child or small woman might need two. 1/3 of a flywheel revolution produces enough juice to energize the necessary electronics, less than 1 complete rev is enough for microprocessor to determine sync.

Mid section & gearcases - 2 cylinder uses same as 55 commercial model, 3 cylinder uses same as 60 degree V4. Will use same line of props as current 3-cylinder & V4 2-strokes.

Component mounting (like tp sensor on throttle shaft) combined with non-adjustable linkage contribute to "no maintenance for 3 years/300 hours. Computer re-calibrates tp sensor every time throttle is closed. Gear lube change interval will be 300 hours. Motors that are barge tested run over 1000 hrs with ultra hpf, it comes out clean. In salt water use, fresh-water flushing would be a good thing. Auto-winterize feature still requires fuel stabilizer be mixed in gas tank and run thru engine. When activated, system oils the **** out of block and shuts engine off. The "closed fuel system" isn't any different than current DI engines, and no, there is no closed fuel cell in bost or a fuel return line to boat - USCG still frowns on that.

This sucker runs real quiet too. I was told when they brought in the CEO to check it out, they had a Honda 90 and the E-TEC 90 idling side by side in the tank - They had to turn off the Honda in order to hear the Evinrude.
Backfire ;)

Instigator
02-23-2003, 08:34 AM
Thanx for the info, very interesting.
any idea how long until we see larger motors, and how big they plan to go??

mercmack
02-23-2003, 03:32 PM
this is one of the beauties of this sight.. just so many different subject past and present to read....so many knew technologies just coming into the industry....you must have someone on the inside to keep you informed...some day you'll have to spread the wealth...:p :p

airide18
02-23-2003, 04:05 PM
Hey great info Backfire!!!!

Backfire
02-23-2003, 11:15 PM
I'd like to take credit for inside info but it comes via cut and paste. Dave Thompson, Director of Communications at Bombardier, has been to other web sites and let some details out, but not much. I invited him to S&F. A spirited thread on THT (The Hull Truth site) had a repost from iboats.com that came from a good source. He said we can expect "details" in a month or so. Probably in June/July the 2 cyl 40, 50 and 60, and the 3cyl 75 and 90 will be in production as 2004 models. The V-4 (?) and V-6 models will come out as 2005 models probably summer of 2004. Also smaller models will be in the line so the complete line of Evinrude E-TECs should be available in the 2005 model year. I sure would like to do an extended lake test of a 25/30/35 hp on my fishing boat. Maybe we S&F'ers should make a wish list for Bombardier Performance Products so they know what to do first- in our opinion. Like what gearcases and the ratios and a 15" mid, props, etc. Whatdaya think? Could be some BAD 2 and 3 cyl motors with the right port work, etc., and let them think about the needs of engines with slightly more cubic inch- like 3 to 4 liter. They have 3 350 hp dynos in their engineering center, ought to be able to make something that will blow the hoses off of them!
Backfire ;)

racer
02-23-2003, 11:42 PM
Should they decide to go bigger than 350 thats ok they can use my thousand horsepower dyno.

mercmack
02-24-2003, 12:50 AM
when you get done with the 25 to 35 models, i'd like to try them on my fishing boat. have a 15 4stroke now. It was ok at sea level, but here at 5500 ft elevation, even with a prop so it can turn the right RPM, i still can swim faster and i have lots of gray hair and will never see 65 again..
my first outboard was a 7 1/2 evinrude so i gess my last can be the same...:D :D :D
keep up the good spy work..I'll be watching and reading

White Ally02
02-24-2003, 09:24 AM
What are the cost of this new line going to be compaired to cost now,

Backfire
02-24-2003, 03:05 PM
As for pricing, the quote is "The engines will be competitive"
That clears that up that issue. I suppose Merc's engines will be "competitive" so that only leaves us to wonder what the meaning of is - is!
Backfire ;)