Voo Doos,Deltas&Airides thread II

[airide18]

Since everyone abandoned the last thread i though maybe a new one was in order.Had like 25 pages on the last on,that might have been a S&F record.Well everyone should post newer pics,the ones that are never seen before.Or pics of winter resto's.

[airide18]

Hers a pic of mikes when he had the mod 25 on the back..

[airide18]

Heres another pic from the suwanee river.:cool:

[Ilovespeed]

in the summer also my friends voodoo on my lake..

[airide18]

Your frind runs a mariner to...sweet voo doo.

[Ilovespeed]

yah 60 mariner with a cleaver sweet boat

[Ilovespeed]

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[Ilovespeed]

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[airide18]

Sweet pics,do you run your boat alot at night cause i noticed you had you navigation light on the back.Heres one of those never seen before pics.

[Doubledog]

Thats one boat I cant seem to get enough of. Take some photos of your cocpit area of the airide and post.

[airide18]

This is the best int pic i have.....:D

[Ilovespeed]

Airide yah i run my boat at night sometimes when i have to go somehwere on my lake or when theres fireworks or such things happening but i have to be carefully on my lake ... u can probably make a safe bet i do when my lakes name is "Stoney Lake" someguy this summer ran his 30 footer into a huge rock island going like 20-30 mph at night i dont know how he did it but the picture i saw was pretty crazy to see a 30 footer on resting on this rock i';ll see if i can find the pic but yah dont do it often but i usually keep the light up cause its got my Canadian flag on it soo yah ... to bad its winter her otherwise i would ahve better pics
Tyler

[airide18]

How much snow do you have right now.I was in wisconsin for 2 weeks and there was only 3".

[Ilovespeed]

Theres very little snow here ... but we are supposed to get like 10-15 centimeters ... not inches soo theres not to much ehre buts it about -10 celsius and i dont know what that is but its quite a bit below freezing...
Tyler

[airide18]

Do you own any snowmobiles?

[Ilovespeed]

Nope i dont have any .. with buying hockey equiptment .. and skiing ... also living in a place where there arent many trails i dont but i do know some people with them and they are fun ...
Tyler

[airide18]

We ride at our cabin in wisconsin alot,its in the midlle of a bigg national forrest so theres lots of trails.Snowmobiles are sweet.GOt an SRX 700.

[Ilovespeed]

Some of my friends have some they arent the newest but they run and are fun o fool around with ,.... of course with safety in mind :rolleyes: ... i cant really afford one either ... boat ... hockey equiptment ... jeeze skates are getting higher by the day ...
Tyler

[airide18]

Is your dad going to give you his 350Z when you get old enough to drive:D

[Ilovespeed]

I wish he would maybe some day .. i dont even know if hes gonna put my name on the insurance :confused: or im prolly gonna hafta pay for it or sumtin ... but i will drive it somehow :D
Tyler

[boataddict26]

Me and Airide18 in his Airide last summer.

[airide18]

What you dont notice in that picture is that BA26 is holding my steering arm on the engine cause we lost the nut on the way back from the swanne,his hands were all bloody when we got back cause his hand kept getting jamed between the engine.:D

[boataddict26]

The lesson to be learned....Always use stainless locknuts on the bolt that holds your steering arm!!!!:D

[airide18]

Thats why you were with me:D so you could hold it together:D No need for bolts when ya got an extra hand around

[wing nut]

well this thred isnt as big as the other one.. and i noticed u 4got the add VIXENS, in the title.. u saying that im not welcome here or somthing? u guys to good for me? haha j/k:D its all good, so anyway.. where is every1?? vac. is over!

scott

[airide18]

Donno, they just stop postin.Your still excepted man.

[wing nut]

Originally posted by airide18
Donno, they just stop postin.Your still excepted man.

yea.. it used to be like 3 pages a day of new stuff to sort though.. i guess every1 ran outa stuff to say? lol

scott

[airide18]

Well we got ta get this thread popular again so we can get some action.Gotta gofast do you have any more pics of your vixen?

[boataddict26]

Theres gotta be some people out there with more pics!! Where is everyone?

[airide18]

Ohh well,I think the last thread must have tired them out so we are just gonna have to make do:D BA26 where are all of your pics.Got that scanner mastered?

[boataddict26]

Of some Airide Powerboats....

[boataddict26]

Airide....

[boataddict26]

Another....

[boataddict26]

Sweet....

[airide18]

How come your pics always come out so small?

[Pete]

hey guys,
hows everyone doing? i havnt been posting much latley because im pretty busy now with school and volleyball. i have volleyball everyweekend from now untill i dont even know when (i think mid feb. sometime) and with exams coming up, im trying to get working. ill look for some new pics of my boat, i know i have a coupple of the bottom of the boat and a few more of the top. Ill keep lookin!
GGF, u got any more pics of the vixen? is it done yet???

Pete

[boataddict26]

I set them to that size. There not small, I just dont like having to scrool over to see the whole picture.;)

[airide18]

Pete, whats your teams record?Are ya winnin?

[Pete]

what team??? i play for my school, but that season is over now. Our record was 75-2 or something, and we travelled to all over canada with that. we were ontario champions. for my club team im not sure on our record, i think it is something like 20-2, were getting to the busyest part of the season right now with tournaments coming up in Penn State and maybe Cali. The club team is somewhere in the top 5 of ontario, not to sure yet, to early in the season to tell ya

Pete

[airide18]

Sounds like fun,do you get to travel with the girls team?Now that wound be sweet!!!!:D

[Pete]

ha, yes that would be sweet but no we dont get to travel together. the girls and guys seasons dont really overlap in school. the only tournament we do get to be with the girls is nationals, but usually everyones to focused to have the kind of fun you are thinking of. Whenever i watch the girls play i allways need to remind myself that i have a girlfriend :D

Pete

[airide18]

Well if ya got a girlfreind than you are doin the right thing by reminding yourself about your girl.:) Now me i would be eyes wide open.The volley chicks at are school are HOT,went out with one last year,she was hot but had a attitude prob.

[Pete]

yea airide you got that right, most of the volleyball girls that i have met are very hot, but do have attitude problems. their a little to stuck up for my likeing. I have a ton of them that are my good friends now, but i dont think id go out with them. You gotta find a hot one with a good attitude, its hard but worth it when u find one

[boataddict26]

Airides old girl did not have an attitude problem, she was a strait out BITCH!!!! She was going out with him and commin on to me at the same time!! Man she is a BITCH!!:D

[airide18]

I dunno,i really dont feel like havin a girl this year,it effects my grades and what i like to do and thats what high school is all about.Right now all i care about is GRADES and BOATS,it takes the grades to have the boats!!!!Im fixin ta start my new paint job this week,im gonna do a similar job to wildmans liberator,i talked to him and he gave me a little help on colors and design.Cant wait to have it totally finished.Should be done by March.

[boataddict26]

Should be sweet!! Might get mine painted after I see how yours turns out. You gonna go all the way down the side with the flames? Gonna paint the gearcase?

[airide18]

The flames will come a foot from the steering wheel and go halfway down the side and underneath.Im not going to paint the case cause i dont know if im gonna be runnin that engine when i get it back together.

[boataddict26]

Sounds sweet!! Cant wait to see the results!!

[airide18]

I hope turns out nice,would be alot of work and effort for it too turn out looking like bird crap splatered on ther bow:D

[The Tank]

pete what new pics of your boat are u getting i just got some of mine when i bought my boat.

[boataddict26]

Tank, Post the pics of your boat.

[airide18]

Yeah post some pics of those sweet lookin Delta's!!!!

[boataddict26]

Ill have some more pics of my Airide tommorow. Airide, You gonna finish strippen you boat soon?

[airide18]

WEll this is my 1000th post,i never thought i would have this many posts.Now im a "Guru".BA yeah i finished today on the stripin and already started preping the hull for paint..

[boataddict26]

Sweet, Im gonna start strippn my engine so when your dad is set up for painting he can go ahead and spray the 25. Ask and see if it is ok.

[airide18]

We arent painting with that kind of paint,were painting with house of colors candies and you cant paint your engine with that.And i dont know if im gonna repaint my engine cause i think the next engine that will be back on it is gonna be a 45ss.Have ta wait for awhile

[boataddict26]

As long as he is set up for painting it wont be hard to swith to emron. I know he will do it. Ill ask him because you will just say no and not even ask because you just think he wont.:) ;)

[airide18]

Where are you gonna spray it at?Its 60F out and lower.My boats gonna be in the shop in a visqine room were gonna make.But ya cant paint in that cause it will get on my boat.Think of a solution and will paint it.

[boataddict26]

You dont have to be to smart to figure this out!! Just paint it after you are done painting you boat, or before.;)

[airide18]

Im gonna be paintin my boat for about a month or more.And then the leftove emron i have is going on my 50 and then i have to paint the other lower units i have so i can sell them plus the othe 15"mid i have so i can sell that to.Itll be summer before we can paint it.

[boataddict26]

Not if we do it first. It will only take a few hours.

[boataddict26]

And I will buy my own paint if nessesary.

[airide18]

NO im not doing it first,my grades come out in 2 week or 1,and i want atleast my base paint on before they come out.YOu are gonna be grounded to with those math and spanish grades of yours.

[airide18]

Heres a pic of all my inventory,im tryin to get rid of this stuff so i can make a little money off it,if y see any thin g ya like tell me and ill talk about what deal i can make ya.:D :cool:

[wing nut]

what do you want for a 3 cyl block? 49c.i.


thanks,
scott

[airide18]

I dont have any 3 clyinder blocks.I have a complete modified 50hp engine that runs great that im sellling

[wing nut]

do you have any 3 cyl parts?

scott

[airide18]

Well i have gearcases that will fit a 3 cyl and i have a 2cly 15"mid that it think fits a 3 cylinder bolt pattern.And carbs which are the same as the 3 cly carbs but i think the jetting is different.

[airide18]

Look at this sad little boat,it looks lonely.:(

[boataddict26]

looks sad!!!!;) :( :D :)

[airide18]

Heres a pic of the transom when it is striped.:eek:

[airide18]

Come on guys,someone needs to start postin more,this thread has gone nothin but down hill after christmas.Did someone have a familly member die or somptin??????Start posting pics or get some subjects going:)

[boataddict26]

Some one better post before the post man Airide gets mad!!:mad: ;)

[wing nut]

i just got some paint for the inside of my boat.. wel your only gonna be able to see the gray in the back on the transom knees and back wall because everything is gonna be carpeted. i cant wait to finish this boat!!! :)

scott

[airide18]

Do you plan on runnin a short shaft on your engine?

[wing nut]

yea. im either adapting the 2cyl 15in. mid i have to fit the 3 cyl powerhead.. or if the 3 cyl. elect. shift mid is good ill use that. or i might combine the two to make one good one lol!

scott

[airide18]

Yeah the 15 mid ive got is in good shape.The thing about adapting it to your mid to make one,well thats all i do:D I make one engine out of three engines:D If you need any swivel brackets or steering arms,ive got em.

[boataddict26]

Airide has just about anything you will need for the small hp engines!! He probly went through 4 engines to get one but it turned out very SWEET!!

[airide18]

Most of it turned out to be junk but i got alot for the buck.

[wing nut]

man this thread is dropping like crazy!, anyway i just got in from fiberglassing, man i missed the smell of it since the summer:rolleyes: lol. we just drilled a few drain holes for inbetween the stringers and stuff and wiped resin to seal them up. ahh i posted to say sumthin.. and now i forgot! damnit, well when i remember ill post again lol.

scott

[airide18]

Are you macking a fiberglass bracket for your seat?

[wing nut]

Originally posted by airide18
Are you macking a fiberglass bracket for your seat?

if you mean me, i have 4 stringers in that boat so um just going to make a mini floor over the 4 stringers and bolt the seat onto that.

scott

[airide18]

What kind of seat are you going to put in it?

[wing nut]

im putting 2 seats in a line. there old allison fiberglass seats. im getting them re-painted and re-coverd with white material and a blue stripe down the middle, and blue piping around the edges of the seats.. they should come out looking AWSOME when there done.

btw, why'd you strip your boat bare?

scott

[airide18]

The seats sound awsome.I striped my boat cause im repainting,repowering ,recarpeting and more.Itll be done by march.

[airide18]

Bring this post back ta the top.

[wing nut]

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jeeze people post sum stuff! updates on projects, stuff u want, anything , just dont let this thred die!!!

scott

[airide18]

Im sure one of you guys with the voo doos or deltas need help settin you rides up!!!!Ya cant do it alone!!!!!Engine help and other stuff.Seems like everyones gettin a new mota for there little vee bottoms:)

[Ilovespeed]

well for one it is exam time here and i know that i have to study do some projects and i ahve a hectect hockey shedule too its crazy ... well if anyone knows about yamahas and where i could find one that would be a help then some set up stuff will come after ...
Tyler

[ProComp]

How come Hydrostream never put a windshield on the voodoo to make it look more like a mini vector? Can you get one?

Anyone looking for an 18 pitch chopper for a small merc motor? Not sure what else it would fit. Email me.

ProComp

[Pete]

Hydrostream did put a windsheild on their voodoo, and their mini voodoo. I think it was an option back in the day when Canadian edition made the voodoos. if you can wait untill summer i will take some pictures of the full size voodoos and mini voodoos with windsheilds.

Pete

[AnthonySS]

Actually they did produce the classic style curved windscreen for the voodoo...

Iit looked funny tho...cause they did not produce the aluminum rail that tied it into the coaming.

So it looked incomplete...just like the coamings do.

I agree that it sohuld have the classic look too.

Spaith is retooling the deck and removing the large coamings to make it look better...it will resemble a Valero deck next!!

[boataddict26]

Sounds like it will look good!!:)

[airide18]

Ilovespeed....Your puttin a yammy on your voo doo???Did you do research on that engine?

[David]

There is probably a picture of the Voo Doo windshield on the IHR. I don't like the windshield looks but the price of no windshield is getting wet in rough water.

Yamaha or Merc 60 for a Voo Doo? I did a lot of engine research before I got mine and then ignored everything I learned:)

The Yamaha 3's are reputed to be great engines but hard to prop for speed on a Voo Doo. A Yamaha dealer told me that the big pitch 70 props have too much diameter for a Voo Doo. The Yamaha 60 & 70 have 2.3 gears, you will need a lot of pitch. The Yamaha 50 is geared at 1.85.

I think the Voo Doo engine of choice is the Merc 60; 1.64 gears, small diameter prop, and the most prop options.

Interestingly I found a guy with some 650XS who refused to sell them to non racers. He said I would regret buying one and come back to blame him.

who can work on a boat in this weather?
my boats are sleeping in a barn

David
Virage & Voo Doo

[Ilovespeed]

I will post a picture of a voodoo with a windshield .. a guy i know that has one up near apsley ontario has a white voodoo witha 40 merc ... his winsheild broke but i got some pictures from him before it broke ... i was jsut looking at the yamaha because i was interested in what i could possibly get ... i dont know everything about motors ... i dont know much ... and its good to get this information ... the 60 merc is looking as the best engine as of right now ... inclduing the price issues beacause yamahas are pretty expensive ... looking at the 90 yamaha specifications it says 13:26 (2) gear ratio ... the 75 yammy 12:28 (2.33) gears ... the 60 merc 1.62:1 gear ratio ... soo my quesion what does this mean ????? Thanks
Tyler

[Ilovespeed]

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[Ilovespeed]

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[Ilovespeed]

Where do u boat...what do u have on your voodoo ... your in the pbcc??
Tyler

[airide18]

Sweet pics of the voo doo.Glad ta see this thread is gittin some action!!!The 90 yammy seems like it would be to heavy and not be capable of the mods you might want.

[Ilovespeed]

60 merc is 219 ... 90 yammy is 256 and 75 yammy is 233 .... i want to try and find a 15"mid for one i get as well ...
Tyler

[P man]

check these bad boys out
I found these on a swedish website so I have no idea what they are but the look pretty fun. There are a ton of interesting classes
heres the link:

www.xorc.nu/

[P man]

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last one

[airide18]

Looks like it would be a great class,mayber a litttle more HP than thode little 25 or 40s they have on there.:)

[David]

Message for Ilovespeed

90 on a Voo Doo seems wrong. I don't think HP is the key to Voo Doo speed. Set up and driveability matter at least as much. The fastest one I have seen was Mark Casper's. He had a detuned 650XS (long shaft conversion, lowered compression). The top of the bullet was even with the bottom of the pad. His boat was GPS'd by a prior owner at 70 mph.

More weight out back = harder to drive for these boats.

How sensitive is set up? Even driver position matters. My brother has a lot of V bottom history and I have none. Yet in our limited Voo Doo driving last summer I went a little faster just because I sat in the center of the bench and that made it easier to drive.

There are rpm/pitch/speed programs available. You can download one from the IHR. In brief, speed = propeller revs X pitch X slip. You get more speed from more pitch or more prop revs. Prop revs geared down from powerhead revs. 2.33 gears means the crank turns 2.33 times for every turn of the prop. 1.64 gears means the crank turns 1.64 times for every turn of the prop. Assume a slip factor of around 0.9.

You want low numerical gears for a Voo Doo. First, it is hard to find big pitch props for these little motors. Second, the little motors won't turn a big diameter prop to high rpm. Raising the engine helps the motors rev higher at the expense of planing.

Why is my 70 Nissan wrong or is it wrong? With my 1.92 gears and 18" chopper my little Nissan is going to have to go 7000 rpm to get me to 60 mph. Tabara racing is getting 7200 out of a stock Nissan 40 so maybe this is possible.

6000 rpm, 18" pitch = 51 mph for my Nissan, 59 mph for the 60 Merc.

I belong to the PBCC. Next summer a foot throttle, fix the water pressure gage, and maybe raise the engine. And get a lot more solo seat time and learn to drive.

David
Virage & Voo Doo & sticker shock from the TO boat show

[airide18]

David is exactly right,its not always the amount of HP,its the weight to HP ratio.Ya dont always go faster with a bigger engine.

[Carsen]

made a nice bench seat for my tnt over christmas break.

plywood, 2" foam padding, white vinyl.

looks great, matches boat. ill try to get some pics up soon.
for now, heres a pic of my boat before the seat:

[airide18]

IT looks like ya did a good job on the TnT.

[Ilovespeed]

thanks for the information ... finally starting to understand some of the stuff u guys talk about ... soo if u have lower gears the motor wont per say have to work as fast to get higher speeds ... the higher rpms will mean faster prop than higher gears at same rpms with same hp ... but if u had gears at say 2 like the 75 ... with the same weight or close to it would this make the 60 nearly as fast because of the gears .... ???
Thanks
Tyler p.s. im joining pbcc this year ... mayhbe see u at a event with my voodoo ...

[David]

An issue with the small motors on Voo Doos is prop availability. No one is making custom props for these motors and the factory availability is limited.

Yamaha's on line guide shows props of up to 14" diameter for the 90. I think the inline 6 Merc props will fit and I guess you could have a V6 14.5" diameter prop cut down to fit. But its a big prop for a small boat and smallish engine. Yamaha's biggest prop on their web site is 25" in aluminum, 23 in pro series stainless. 13.25 X 24 in SS 'performance'. My prop program shows you'd need around 6700 rpm with 24" to see 70 mph with 2:1 gears.

90 is more than enough power to push a Voo Doo past 70 but can a stock Yamaha 90 turn that high? Can it turn that high with a 'big' propeller? And if you rev it so far past the power peak why have that big a motor to start with?

When I was motor shopping I spoke to a Yamaha dealer who was looking for a prop for a Yamaha 75/Voo Doo combination. Not an easy thing to find. The 75 uses the same props as the 90. At the time I was looking at an 80's 85 Merc for a Voo Doo. I thought my XR4 props would work. He told me the boat would not work with props that large (13-14) in diameter

The little Merc 60 has 1.64 gears, and Merc used to list thru hub 18, 20, and 22" cleavers, all 12" diameter. Plus the 10 3/8 X 18" over hub chopper from the Merc 25 can be re-hubbed to fit. I am casually looking for a 20 or 22" cleaver for my Nissan. I have the 18" chopper now.

You should join the PBCC. There are lots of people with a lot of experience to talk to, the events are fun, and the people are good.

I bought the Nissan complete with Voo Doo because the price was right and it would be fast enough for a newbie to V bottoms. No regrets.

What about finding a used Voo Doo race boat complete w/motor? One of the guys on the board was selling his.

David
frozen in Windsor, but the freighters are still out

[Ilovespeed]

now just one question ... would the gearcase change any of this???? like putting on a sst 60 gearcase to a yammy ??? would that change the gears ???? and i tried a 18 copper 10 3/8 on my 40 and i didnt really get much outta it didnt ahve the horsepower... i was thinking about the ss 60 from a guy taht races here thats selling his critchfield and the 60 ... my dad would rahter go to a marina and get a newer not rebuilt 60 merc and then get rid of our 40 by selling that or trading in or soomething ... then after i get a prop maybe put some mods on it ... i have to work and get money casue i dont think my dad is going to pay for it all .... im looking at finding a cleaver as well
Tyler

[airide18]

The yamaha is not the ideal engine for a small v botttom.First off it sounds like they are hard to get props for it ,second there is nobody that runs any type of modified 75-90 yammy so the are no mods and nobody to help you with mods on that engine.Then the weight of those engines is very high and the voo doo alone is a very heavy boat for its size.Then i dont think can even get a 15" mid for it.Then the gears and the case are a big prob.I think if you could get a complete SST 60 engine it would be the best engine for a voo doo.It only weights 180LBS and produces 100+HP.But they are hard to find.If you are lookin for a cleaver ive got one that is 12x23 3 blade cleaver for sale if interested ,its through hub.

[boataddict26]

Airide is right, I would definatly go with a Johnson!!;) You can do alot more mods to them and there is alot more help if you run into a problem. The prop thing is a big deal to.

[airide18]

Yeah there are tons of people who do all sorts of mods to the johnson's.There your best engine for the buck.

[boataddict26]

Airide is sellin his!! 2300 dollers and it is yours!! (If airide hasent already sold that beauty!!)

[airide18]

NOpe shes still for sale,Had a guy offer me 2200 but never emailed me back(been 4 days) o well.It will selljust gotta give it time.;)

[AnthonySS]

The Heavy motors are NOT the way to go on the VooDoo.

In another thread I was trying to tell "ILOVE" to start enrolling in Swimming lessons!!;)

[airide18]

I feel the same way,lighter and more power is the key to the best speed.I dont know if anyone has ever put a SST 60 on a voo doo but i think it would be awsome for a voo doo.Light and powerful.Voo doo would be a slug with a 90 yammy,no 15" mid capability.

[boataddict26]

SST60 would be SWEET!! It would fly!!:D

[airide18]

The only problem with a SST60 is avialibility,the price is also high but if tyler was gonna buy a brand new yammy 90 then they would be the same.

[boataddict26]

Would deffinalty go with the sst60 if possible. Any thing but the yamaha!!;)

[airide18]

The yammaha might be a good touring engine but not the gofast you probabily want;) :)

[boataddict26]

I would think so too.;)

[Ilovespeed]

sooo from what ive heard from people who ahve run voodoos and the engines i think im just going to go with a 60 merc ... i can get a short shaft for it ... i also have a couple props in reach for a merc ... my puter crashed and i havent been able to be up to date on the threads ... o yah i took swimming lessons back whn i was a little younger and can swim soo that part of the problem wouldnt be a issue lol ... i think im now on the persuit of a 3 cylinder 60 merc ... or maybe a omc ... but im leaning towards a merc 60 ... i was thinking about a sst 60 at first but they are expensive and i cant find them near here ... shipping cost would put me in debt ... thanks for all the info guys ... helps when u dont know all the known facts ...
Tyler

[Pete]

im not to sure about a voodoo with a 75 yammy, but i know a that a yammy on critchfeilds do alright.
the last picture in the link below is a critchfeild and he has won a coupple races with this boat.

http://www.angelfire.com/ak4/ppr/PPR6.HTML
this is the link to the formula vee team profiles that raced up here last year i think.


Pete

[boataddict26]

I would go for a mid 80's 2 cyl. 60hp omc. I dont think you will like the 3cly. as much, they are heavier and cost more to fix if something happend.

[airide18]

I would steer clear of 3 clyinder merc.HEAVY!!!!.BA26 the 2 cly 60 is the same as a 50 just that the jetting is different and the exuast chest,so if ya wanted on of those you would just buy a 50,same thing.No bigg differences.75 johnson is a great mota,Is good for longigevity.

[airide18]

Heres a pic before i started bondoing the bottom today.

[airide18]

After the bondo job,still havent sanded it down thought.

[Ilovespeed]

im not abandoned the yammy yet or any possible engine ... 75 omc is a 3 cyl??? arent they quite heavy as well??? as soon as spring starts to come around im going to go ask some dealers about the engines im interested in ... see wahts out there ... what they have to say ...try and talk to some guys that race voodoos ... see what they think would be the best then work from there ... the only reason i wouldnt get a sst 60 is the maintenence because of the race factor ... same with a 650xs ...
Tyler .... sending form and money into pbcc tomoro ...

[airide18]

If your lookin to go fast i would stay clear of any new motas.About 90 and older is you best bet for engine years.The best omc 3 cly were in the mid 80's.The newer engines are all crap as far as performance.There fishin motas and they will stay that way causew theres no high perf parts for them.And the sst 60 is not just a racing engine,matinace???Theres no more matinace that a 90 yammy,the sst 60 has a fully shiftalble gearcase and isnt a Hardcore race engine,even though it makes alot of horse power for its size.And to answer your question about th weight of the 75 omcs?Well the ones in the mid 80's weight around 190-200 depending if you leave all the stock crap on them.

[Ilovespeed]

what do sst 60's go for ... ???? any in Canada / near Canada
Tyler

[airide18]

You could probably find one for $2500-3000 US.Ill post a email adress to a guy i know thats getttin rid of some things for sst 60's.

[airide18]

Heres a email to a guy that i think is gettin rid of some sst 60 stuff [email protected] just email him and ask for a list of the stuff hes selling for sst 60's.

[airide18]

Found a sst 60 clyinder block for $325 brand new and a used one for $200.

[YoungStream]

Well,

I know from experience that the Merc 60 runs well on a voodoo. It also sounds like the SST 60 is a bad ass little engine.

First, I would recommend thinking about the realities of buying an engine - especially for you younger fellas. Reliability is a big issue, motors can be a real money pit - especially if you need a mechanic to work on it. Therefore, getting a really hopped up racing engine is really cool, but when it is in the shop all the time cause they tend to be tempermental, well then you won't be very happy at all.

Secondly, the voodoo is a fast little boat, but I don't think it is the best application to go overboard on the power with. Strapping too much power on that hull could be a death trap - especially with the weight of a 90 on the back - can you say blowover?

So my point is this: a 60 merc or equivalent, modified or stock with excellent setup will put a smile on your face every time you mash the throttle...trust me!

Aiight, nuf of that parental lamenting type dialogue - just sharing my 2 cents - I am now 23 - voodoo was my first ride at 15 and a great boat to learn how to pilot a v-pad.

Timdogg

[AnthonySS]

...as much as I appreciate the spirit of you young fellas....

(you guys remind me of me when I was Young;eek;)..

TIM's points are "SO TRUE"

[airide18]

Well if you were gonna go with a merc 60,you my as well get a omc 50,it will put out way more with little mods you could have a 165lbs machine puttin out 65 HP (with little work)and it would be eaisier to get a 15" mid for 2.You would have to be crazy to get a merc 60 over a OMC 2 clyinder 50.
Merc 60:220 LBS+:60HPno modifications can be done:no 15"mid
OMC 2 cly 50:170lbs max:50-70+HP:and runs great
Merc will definatly be more $$$$$$ to.
Just helping you compare the 2 engines.
All i ever run is the 2 clyinder 50's and they can produce so much HP for there size its unreal.

[boataddict26]

You can still do mods. to the mercs, just not near as many.;)

[airide18]

Id like to know of any?

[boataddict26]

Carbs, can bore the cylinders, pistons, 15in. mid if you can find one, reeds, lightend fly wheel....

[airide18]

It would take tons of time to get trough all that electronical crap.Lightened fly,they dont make such a thing,15" mid were????id like to see one.About the only mod you would want to do is possible reed change(boysen).

[boataddict26]

If someone really wanted to do it they would take the time to get through all the electronics.(Should just get an OMC and not worry about it) You can lighten the flywheel yourself (not sure if they make them, proboly not) and you can find a 15in mid, but it would be hard. And why wouldnt you want to bore? Just as easy as an OMC. But, I still think it would be way easier and could get more power out of a 2cyl. OMC.

[YoungStream]

Airide18,

You are probably right that you can more easily modify the OMC.

Actually I have never heard any incidents of a VooDoo with the SST 60, could ba a neat combo. I have however seen VooDoos with the 75 Stinger(I think that is the name) I am not sure about the specs on that engine, but it did not perform as well as the merc counterpart.

As far as the Merc, it can be lightened significantly by swapping the engine bracket assembly to that of a 40 Merc. You can mod the engine with reeds, boring, porting, exhaust, etc. I guess it all depends just how fast you want to go!

A short mid would be a good option, then you could slap the motor right onto the transom, I had a manual jackplate on my setup.

TDogg

[Ilovespeed]

Yah a friend of mine into some big power said he had some mods i could do on a merc (hes a merc maniac) but it all depends on your preference ... omc merc ... i dont thin the yamaha will be going on dealing with the price and the insurance ... if the insurance company will sinsure it LoL ... youngstream ... i am 15 first boat that i have had except the tin tippy with 9.8 merc ... what i would really like to try is a sst 6- but when i asked around a bit the only ones i could find were in australia ... and the shipping would kill me ... i have a jack plate as well ... and that was my concern with the race motors is the maintenence with them .. options galore ..
Tyler ... youngstream what did u run on your voodoo???

[airide18]

What year merc 60's are you talkin about?I have tunnel vision,i only se pperformance and thats the omc 50 on these small light vee hulls.Lighter is the key and then comes HP.Mercs have never really focused on the High Perf in the smaller engines,they did owever come out with the 44XS in the late 80's and discontinued it in 93'.Wasnt a hit,was 4 cly and was heavy and it was to tall for hydro racers.Merc has always focused on being the top dawg in V-6's and v-4's.Tyler do you work on your engines or do you send them to a shop.The matinace on these is minimal,your thinkin of race engines that are being ran at the peak of there displacment and are being ran at the ragged edge.Not likely what you'll be doing.Just tryin to prove a point.

[boataddict26]

Airide is right about the mantince. As long as you keep up on the routine stuff (lower. oil, mixed gas, pluggs, ext. easy stuff.)

[Ilovespeed]

the maintenece i was talking about was about the race engines ... i dont do my own work on engines ... i have a mechanic that does that ... and tahts one issue i would like to keep in mind ... i know the merc and by the sounds of it the omc's dont need the attention a race engine would need ... and that would be a good thing!!
tyler

[Ilovespeed]

would that guy u know have a whole engine or just some parts???
Tyler

[airide18]

The only thing he has for sale is a complete 45ss,but thats reserved for me.;)He has a few misc parts for sale im sure.But he does every mod possible to 2 cyl & 3cyl OMC's.Imselling mine but i think it might be sold,got three buyers that are fightin for it.:) :D As for matinace,if you have a mech do all the engine work any engine will be expensive if broken.$$$$$But once you fiddle around with thesse engines you should catch on to there prob's and be able to fix.Not hard just takes time:) a long time:)

[David]

Used race boat. Probably your most cost effective solution. Sell your rig and buy an already set up boat. Of course if you like to tinker this isn't the best approach.

Merc 60. Your controls and instruments are already Merc. Trade the 40 for a 60. If you can find a used 60 this will be pretty cost effective. You'll get a better trade in at a Merc dealer. Mark Casper's long shaft went 70, so it can be done with a long shaft. I wonder how hard it was to drive.

3 cyl OMC is OK only w/short shaft, which more or less don't exist in Ontario.

2 cyl OMC sounds like fun and you can get advice on how to do it from the guys here.

Its always fun to figure out someone elses rig. It would cost too much money to re-power my Virage so I don't want to think about that:)

[boataddict26]

What kind of engine was Mark Casper runnin when he het 70?

[airide18]

Id like ta se that,must of chine walked like a bat out of hell.Why would some one go to all that trouble and not just run a 15" shaft.The engine must have been jacked sky heigh:)

[YoungStream]

Actually,

You wouldn't have to jack it all that high, it looks like your boat is pretty low in the water, but the voodoo has a fairly high transom, so the 20" can work with a little height - Also, I am not sure if the setback added by the jackplate is good or not - but one positive aspect that I can think of would be the reduction in trim height which is required to fly the boat while keeping the bullet running through the water at a horizontal angle, which is fast.

ILS - I had a 60 Mariner on my VooDoo. Good combo. If your mechanic is a Merc guy, then there are benefits with going merc. A trusted mechanic can be hard to find...We can all try to do as much work as we are capable of on our engines - but depending on your ability sometimes you need a mechanic to lend some help.

Timdogg

[airide18]

How high is the voo doo transom?Mine is 24".With a step.The voo doo is heavier than my boat so i cant estimate any speeds,if you have a mech to work on your engine than go with watever motor you think is better.It all deppends on what you want to do with your boat wether its (top speed,all around performance,or curisin)

[wing nut]

check out my post on the new tent my dad and i made over the weekend! theres a pic of my boat there 2 :)

scott

[airide18]

Ill go check it out,next time post your sweet ride in this thread;) :)

[wing nut]

hows this..err you STILL can see the metal flake but its awsome and it is there lol

http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=shortman303&album_id=128013&image_id=1&param=55245

http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=shortman303&album_id=128013&image_id=2&param=56533

http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=shortman303&album_id=128013&image_id=4&param=9127

http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=shortman303&album_id=128013&image_id=9&param=66048

hey look no more splash-well! :)
http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=shortman303&album_id=128013&image_id=6&param=98409

the inside is nothing special, im still fiberglassing a tiny bit more in there (the floor.. whic is just a 3x6 ft piece of ply.)

scott

[airide18]

Looks good,came a long way!!!!Like that nice coat of blue metaflake.What type of power ya got in mind?Looks like it would be great with a V-4 or a 75 stinger

[wing nut]

short shaft 3 cyl. highly mod. motor (omc) the boat should haul ass.. and look good doin it :) lol

scott

[Pete]

wow scott, that boats looking real nice!
and metal flake blue, best color of all! ( same color as my delta)

i like the look with the filled in splash well. that boat looks like it will give my boat some competiton :D!
well have to get together sometime.

Pete

[airide18]

Are either one of you guys 16?Man i just got my truck this week.Cant wait ta pull my boat with it.When i go to wisconsin in the summer i might have to come up that way for a trip.Its probably like a 8 hour drive from the UP.

[wing nut]

yea im 16, ill be 17 in march so by the summer ill be pulling my boat all around everywhere :) i live in ny.. which is about 25hrs away from you lol! i dont know how far away canada is though. i say we all go to the romp.. i know im going!

scott

[Pete]

yes im 16 turning 17 on the 20th of april. i shuld have my full license by spring break. we should meet up somewhere in the summer, im sure i know a coupple guys up here that will be willing to gettogether for a gathering of these little boats. or i may even beable to make it to one of the bigger events this year.

Pete

[Pete]

where is the romp?

scott do you got MSN or ICQ?

[airide18]

You guys have to be 17 to get a licence?Man i though everyone got there license at 16.

[wing nut]

ny you have to be 17 to get your licence :(

every1 post your online sn's!

msn: [email protected] (or optonline.net i 4get which one)

icq: 164651662

AIM: shortman303

o yea i think the romp is in KY


scott

[Pete]

well up here you can get something called your g1 when your 16 witch means you can drive with your parents. than in like 8 months you can get your g2, witch means you can drive with 0.00 BA, and everyone must wear seatbelts

Pete

[Pete]

hey my MSN is [email protected] and my ICQ# is 157425973

Pete

[airide18]

YOu get your learners permit when your 15 down here and your license when your 16.I love it.

[airide18]

Here she is.My baby:)

[AnthonySS]

VooDoo has a 22" Transom and is designed for 20" Shaft.

To run a shorty properly, The Transom needs to be cut!!!

[boataddict26]

Didnt know they had such a tall transome!!

[airide18]

It shouldnt have ta be cut,i run a 15"on my 24" transom.Ive got a small step in the bottom,it changes the engine height a little.

[David]

My old brochures show a 24" transom height for the Voo Doo. The only one I saw with a short shaft had a cut transom.

I have my long shaft flat on the transom. This is better for getting on a plane and water skiing, but those are hardly priorities for a Voo Doo. Will I learn to drive this thing faster if I raise the motor? Eventually I will raise it for more speed.

Are there any 'whale tails' that don't look dorky? I have a Bob's true tracker on my 150 that looks cool and helps the boat plane. I don't want a big ugly plastic thing on the Voo Doo.

David
Virage, Voo Doo, Lotus w/badly leaking main seal

[boataddict26]

You mean a dol-fin? I think they only come in one size. Me and Airide have run them on our 25hp's and it is not that bad. And it makes a HUGE difference!!

[Ilovespeed]

ive always wondered about those things ... do they just help planning ??? ive thought o0f getting one but never gon through with it i usually just hop up on the bow when planning ... ???
Tyler

[boataddict26]

It makes a huge difference!! You could have 3 people sittin in the back of the boat and it would still jump up on plain!! No more bow riden to get it up!!

[airide18]

Yeah but when i put mine on my 25hp my roaster tail went from 30ft to 5ft heigh.:( ;)

[boataddict26]

Thats the only bad thing!! That roost adds a whole differnt look to a boat!! The dol-fin almost completly gets rid of it.:(

[airide18]

Yeah instead of it being a sweet boat with a roaster tail its a sweet boat without,and howmany sweet boats do you know of that dont through roster tails.?????:rolleyes: NONE:)

[Ilovespeed]

i think i'll just stick with leaning foward for a couple seconds and keep a rooster !!!
TYler

[boataddict26]

Tearin my 25 down to repaint. Here is some pics.

[boataddict26]

Another....

[boataddict26]

Another one....

[boataddict26]

Another pic....

[boataddict26]

Last one....

[airide18]

Looks like you've been workin away in that new shed of yours:) Keep up the good work,if ya do it fast enough we migh be able to have both our boats runnin by,ohh say a year from now:D DANM trucks cost to much:D

[airide18]

Look at all those holes,i have to put wood dowls in them and then bondo over them.Its alot of work for a coouple holes.

[airide18]

BA do you have any more pics?

[airide18]

I found a 13" mid for a 3cly OMC for sale if anyone is interested.The man is asking $300 for it.His email address is [email protected] .

[airide18]

Heres a pic of the 13" tower.

[The Tank]

springs here ice will be out soon........what are people doing on there boats i started working on mine a bit.

[boataddict26]

My engine is tore down and ready to be preped for new paint. I dont have a prop but other than that my boat is ready!! My damn truck has been taking all my time and money!! It will be worth it though. Will be a sweet ride. The weather is warm now and the river is up, I wish I could be crusin it!!

[yachter55]

all i need is a seat and this one is done;)

[Ilovespeed]

what pwoers that little boat ... how fast is it???
Tyler

[yachter55]

im glad you asked,as i am working on this as we speak.i was in the market for a 150 when i found a 80 merc.this along with me in the boat leaves me with 2 inches of free board.so the answer as of the last run is 43.I fryrd my tach so the last time it worked i was only turning 4100 rpms at 43 mph .I am more disappointed then you guys as I thought we should be up in the 50s