18' Action Marine Restoration Project

[CaptainCraiger]

I just Brought home my Winter project. It is a 1986 18' Action Marine restoration that was started but gave up on. The transom & Floor & additional knees have been done but that is it. I am planning on putting a slightly modified 200 merc with a 15" offshore mid. The fun begins.

[CaptainCraiger]

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/captaincraiger/DSCF7024_zpsf96f60ee.jpg (javascript:void(0);)http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/captaincraiger/DSCF7023_zps0aa3f78b.jpg (javascript:void(0);)1986 18' Action Marinehttp://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/captaincraiger/DSCF7025_zps2d6dca2f.jpg (javascript:void(0);)

[CaptainCraiger]

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/captaincraiger/DSCF7026_zpsb43f72d9.jpg (javascript:void(0);)http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/captaincraiger/DSCF7031_zps73b0f0eb.jpg (javascript:void(0);)More Pictures & picture of Enginehttp://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/captaincraiger/DSCF7029_zpscb50203e.jpg (javascript:void(0);)

[frederick55]

Interesting mod done to the well! Is the upright brace missing under the bow? Working on one right now myself. What are you repainting with?

[CaptainCraiger]

Interesting mod done to the well! Is the upright brace missing under the bow? Working on one right now myself. What are you repainting with?I am not that familiar with the boat on how it was built. I am not sure if a brace is missing or not. There is no brace there & it looks there was never on there, but the floor was replaced & it is solid. I am not sure what I am doing about paint yet. What model are you working on? Do you have a picture of the Fuel tank? I am thinking about putting the fuel tank in the stern & putting the battery under the bow. I am still in thinking stage on what to do.

Craig

[dazigg]

Awesome Craigger!

[CaptainCraiger]

Awesome Craigger!
Jeff the boat was in your front yard yesterday. Chad helped me get it yesterday morning. I hope all is well with your paramount. Yes, it is going to be an awesome winter project. I hope to see you again soon, Maybe Sebring?

Craig

[Hot Shot Merc]

Good luck with the project. I wouldnt put the battery in the bow. Most actions have a battery box reccessed into the floor in the center just aft of that rear seat stringer you have. It would be half way under the floor and infront of your fuel tank. I have a 20 action in that same condition just trying to save the funds to get moving on it.

[dazigg]

Jeff the boat was in your front yard yesterday. Chad helped me get it yesterday morning. I hope all is well with your paramount. Yes, it is going to be an awesome winter project. I hope to see you again soon, Maybe Sebring?

Craig

Ill be damned Craig, sorry I missed you. I must've been at my little guys soccer game. I've got my boat back but haven't run her yet. Hopefully soon.

[frederick55]

I am working on a 1989 18', and also owned an '83 18'. My brace was also out on the '89, but I replaced it when I did the floor. The tank is in the stern between the transom knees and allows for battery placement to the port side of the tank. If I used a larger tank, I would mount it on center, in front of the tank. I agree with Hotshot on not putting the battery in the bow. Long cables have more voltage drop, and you don't want the weight up there, not to mention the pounding.264470264471You need the support under the bow if you walk on it.264477

[Mr. Action]

You have a 18 race 2 decks were available 1 with well other with scoop

[SHAWNO]

You have a 18 race 2 decks were available 1 with well other with scoopi think that was george allens boat at one time

[frederick55]

You have a 18 race 2 decks were available 1 with well other with scoop
Cool that you did that. First one I've seen but goes well on the hull! If it had been available in '83, I would've had to have it.

[Mr. Action]

i think that was george allens boat at one time

Poor boat had a scumbag for a owner ohwell seems to b in good hands now I remember he had a cross flow on it

[CaptainCraiger]

You have a 18 race 2 decks were available 1 with well other with scoop
What size gas tank did you put in the boat, It seems to be a lower deck. there is only 9 3/4 inches clearance between the floor & top deck. Do you recommend reinstalling a support for the deck? I walked on the deck & it seemed pretty solid without a support.

[Mr. Action]

Yes add support good for mounting amps for music
Tank was prob 24 gal if no transom knees I would add them for choppy wtr abuse

[CaptainCraiger]

Somebody cutout 2 big holes in the top deck, not sure whyhttp://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/captaincraiger/DSCF7037.jpg (javascript:void(0);).

[CaptainCraiger]

It has 4 knees added to the transom.I need to finish getting all the leaves out of boat.http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/captaincraiger/DSCF7038.jpg (javascript:void(0);)

[dazigg]

The holes look like they are for mounting dive tanks in them, ha ha.

[FUJIMO]

The holes look like they are for mounting dive tanks in them, ha ha. deck drains.

[CaptainCraiger]

I got word today from my painter/fiberglass guy that he can't touch the boat for 6 to 8 weeks. I just got in the 6" setback from Bob's machine shop. I guess I am going to start drilling holes & setup the boat & then derig it when painter is ready, At least I can start figuring gauges & how the Hot foot is going to be mounted. I am going to have to make a custom mount for the Hot Foot seeing that the place where it is going to sit is the bottom of the boat. I will get pictures up once I get the setback mounted.

[frederick55]

If you're not going center steer, the pic in post #10 shows the original block-up for the hotfoot.

[warren]

Craig good luck my favorite times were in an action looks like a great project cant wait 2 c it finished/red rocket out

[CaptainCraiger]

Craig good luck my favorite times were in an action looks like a great project cant wait 2 c it finished/red rocket outThanks there Warren, It should be a cool project. Sorry to hear about 1 of your powerheads. I hope you get it back up & running by Sebring or maybe those 300's you been thinkin about?

Craig

[tony97gt]

Somebody cutout 2 big holes in the top deck, not sure whyhttp://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/captaincraiger/DSCF7037.jpg (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0);).


That's where the dueling stripper poles go!

Or...looks like maybe they externally mounted two 6.5" speakers

[CaptainCraiger]

If you're not going center steer, the pic in post #10 shows the original block-up for the hotfoot.
Thanks for the picture,I am not going center steer. Can you measure how wide & how long the Hot foot pad. I would appreciate it.
Thank you,

Craig

[frederick55]

Thanks for the picture,I am not going center steer. Can you measure how wide & how long the Hot foot pad. I would appreciate it.
Thank you,

Craig
The pad is 7" wide X 12" long, and starts 17" forward of the seat bridge. Hope this helps!

[CaptainCraiger]

The pad is 7" wide X 12" long, and starts 17" forward of the seat bridge. Hope this helps!Thank you for the info. I am building the pad now. Did you add the supports in front of the hot foot pad & port side?
thank you for all your help.

Craig

[frederick55]

Thank you for the info. I am building the pad now. Did you add the supports in front of the hot foot pad & port side?
thank you for all your help.

Craig
Those blocks are for the angled footboard that runs across underneath the bow. Great to have something to push against, and helps hold stuff up in the bow. I'll post pics of the one I made tomorrow. All the blocks in the pics are stock from when Barney built it.

[dazigg]

Craigger, Chadup says those holes are for mounting your cannons!

[CaptainCraiger]

I hung the engine today. I am trying to figure out how to run the rigging with the 15" mid. not much room to work with.

[BeefKid]

looks like that jackplate can be mounted bout 2 in higher... mine ran best 2" above...

looks good tho :thumbsup:

[Mr. Action]

looks like that jackplate can be mounted bout 2 in higher... mine ran best 2" above...

looks good tho :thumbsup:



Looks low

[CaptainCraiger]

Looks lowYes, it is low, I need to break in rebuilt powerhead, once broke in, I will be raising motor up to get top speed.

[baja200merk]

Breakin has nothing to do with engine height. Put the prop shaft at least 1in above for now. If its too low it will handle like crap and try to chuck you out.

[CaptainCraiger]

Breakin has nothing to do with engine height. Put the prop shaft at least 1in above for now. If its too low it will handle like crap and try to chuck you out.Propshaft is 1/2 " below bottom of the boat. I was thinking that there would be alot of cavitation during break in. I am in mock up stages right now looking how everything is going to fit. I will raise engine up when I go test run it. Thank you for all your help. do you think it would run better at 1" or 2" above bottom of the boat.

Craig

[frederick55]

Actions sit pretty low at the stern. I'd be concerned about keeping the motor out of the water off a plane. Anyone run a 15" mid that can tell us how it was?

[Instigator]

You have a 18 race 2 decks were available 1 with well other with scoopVery cool. Never heard of one nor seen one before.

Craiger, dude you either go large or stay home don't you? Awesome project w/tons of local history/pride as you are seeing. One of the most fun boats to drive as well. You either know how to drive a pad bottom or about to learn ;) Way cool project. I'm jealous.

[CaptainCraiger]

Actions sit pretty low at the stern. I'd be concerned about keeping the motor out of the water off a plane. Anyone run a 15" mid that can tell us how it was?I did have that concern, that is why I was thinking about putting battery up front but have been convinced not too. This is going to be a test & tune project. Luckily I have my own boat ramp to add weight & float the boat to see how things sit. This is going to be neat to see how things come along as I slowly add weight to the boat. Hopefully not to stern heavy. will keep you posted as things come along. I did build my hot foot pad & just got the hot foot in today to mount to pad & install into boat. Going to be slow go at it but it will be fun.

Craig

PS look forward to meeting people at the Sebring event next weekend.

[CaptainCraiger]

Very cool. Never heard of one nor seen one before.

Craiger, dude you either go large or stay home don't you? Awesome project w/tons of local history/pride as you are seeing. One of the most fun boats to drive as well. You either know how to drive a pad bottom or about to learn ;) Way cool project. I'm jealous.
I am always open to learn how to drive another type of boat. I am still learning how to drive the Tunnel boat I have . I am definately not boat poor, just cash poor. Talk to you soon, Gary.

Craig

[CaptainCraiger]

I have added to more pictures, It doesn't seem like it will be that low based on the side shot, Let me know if it still looks like the powerhead will be to low to water at this height.
Thanks.

Craig

[frederick55]

One sure way to find out! Put it in the water. If it's low maybe you'll have to raise the jackplate at idle, and drop it down when you want to start getting on plane. Interested to see the result. Would like to have my mid cut, but need more info like you're going to have by trying it. Still need to get you a pic of the footrest this weekend.

[warren]

Craig they r right about hight start 1in above bottom good place 2 start u will go higher later ill show u how 2 drive an action have had 5 great boat once on the pad u will live there/red rocket out

[Mr. Action]

Boat will plane Btr with Mtr higher as well less slippage Btr for break in just harder on da lower unit

[BeefKid]

i ran a 16" omc on mine it was fine

[frederick55]

i ran a 16" omc on mine it was fine
Thanks Beef. Appreciate the info :thumbsup:

[1fastg3]

I hung the engine today. I am trying to figure out how to run the rigging with the 15" mid. not much room to work with.

How or Who told you to Mount the jack plate so Low ? The motor is going to be under water all day long I feel for you when you get off plane
I am Not the Action Man , But I had 3 of them And I can tell you that Most all Action Like everthing In the Stren . Gas tank, battery, whatever..

[warren]

U go fastg3

[frederick55]

How or Who told you to Mount the jack plate so Low ? The motor is going to be under water all day long I feel for you when you get off plane
I am Not the Action Man , But I had 3 of them And I can tell you that Most all Action Like everthing In the Stren . Gas tank, battery, whatever..
:iagree: Raise the motor!

[CaptainCraiger]

:iagree: Raise the motor!
Motor going to be raised.

[frederick55]

Probably get more room for the rigging too.

[1fastg3]

I mean If you us Seastar pro Your going to snap it off , with where the motor is now . Go as high as you can go about 2 inch from the top and bolt it down ... I dont know Much but The 2 small Action's I had Like 4 to 6 inch of set back ,, BUT ASK MR ACTION , you have a race deck And I THINK that lip that sticks up ? Mean theres no setback, NO jack plate ? But I DONT KNOW .. or maybe race mean just the hump in the stern.

[1fastg3]

Oh yea . 200 mercury? 30 chopper ( if you can drive it ? 92 mph ) of 28 et
I found out the hard way . Make sure your to front seats Kiss to far apart and it hard to drive , or go center steer ..

[Instigator]

I am always open to learn how to drive another type of boat. I am still learning how to drive the Tunnel boat I have . I am definately not boat poor, just cash poor. Talk to you soon, Gary.

Craig
Nice talking to you Craig and let me know if I can help. Looks to me in the pix's that if you raise the plate you should be fine on engine height. Remember what I told you on the phone about how I set mine up.

[frederick55]

Here's the pics of the foot board. It's not glassed yet, but you get the idea.265899265900

[CaptainCraiger]

Here's the pics of the foot board. It's not glassed yet, but you get the idea.265899265900
Great idea!! Thanks

[baja200merk]

Remember what I told you on the phone about how I set mine up.

The Vking? :eek:

Sorry gary had to do it :D

[frederick55]

Great idea!! Thanks
Can't take credit! Barney built them that way. Look back at the pics in post#10 and you'll see the original support blocks for it under the bow. Yours might have been removed somewhere along the way. Anyway, it's great to push against to keep you in the seat when it gets rough. I wouldn't want to go without it. I'll probably round off the top corners.

[CDave]

One thing I did when I had an Ally XB02 was put an inflatable ball, like they sell at WallyWorld, inside the jackplate. That will raise the stern up at rest and helps keep the stern up coming off of plane. Just don't let gas get on the ball; it will eat the ball up.

[BeefKid]

One thing I did when I had an Ally XB02 was put an inflatable ball, like they sell at WallyWorld, inside the jackplate. That will raise the stern up at rest and help coming off of plane. Just don't let gas get on the ball; it will eat the ball up.


http://www.craigboyce.com/w/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/This_Post_Is_Useless_Without_Pichers.jpg

:D

[CDave]

So because it worked on an XB02 it won't work on an Action? Is that what you mean? Physics is physics.

[baja200merk]

So because it worked on an XB02 it won't work on an Action?

No..... no..... but a simple cell phone video would help your case :leaving:

[BeefKid]

i just wanted to see the ball in the jackplate lol... and action little different from the ally... a ball isnt what he needs he needs to raise the motor and he will be fine...
i know a 16" works on an action with no problem lol
:cheers:

[CDave]

I didn't say anything about raising or lowering the engine.
All I was saying is some flotation can help any hull that sits low in the water. I thought it was clear what I was saying.
Maybe I'll type with a larger font next time. :p :D
Sorry, no jackplate/ball pics. :eek:

[Instigator]

The Vking? :eek:

Sorry gary had to do it :D
No problem kev.
Plate mounted in 20" location, all the way down for a 16" motor w/a skid plate mounted to the bottom of it w/rails on the outside edges. You are correct. It did not work as demonstrated at RR. Thought it would help launch the boat but what it actually did was drag it's corners (w/the rails)and amplify any chine walk or attempts to correct it.
New owner raised the plate (20" motor) and removed the skid plate like I told him to and it now drives perfect. Probably would have been fine as is at that height anyhow as that's how it came when I bought it.

[baja200merk]

I have been through that bs, swapping from a 16in to a 20 almost never works out for me without some kind of major surgery.

[CaptainCraiger]

Oh yea . 200 mercury? 30 chopper ( if you can drive it ? 92 mph ) of 28 et
I found out the hard way . Make sure your to front seats Kiss to far apart and it hard to drive , or go center steer ..
What happens if the seats are not kissing each other? What did you findout the hard way?

[1fastg3]

To far apart make it harder to drive , ( for Me ) But Im sure Someone somewhere will say Diff , But Im a big guy And If I had center steer It would be best But Heres a Vid of chris Drive and watch him Move over alittle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FObh1v_hxnU Its a about 1:10

[1fastg3]

one more at :35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLStIy2jJ8Y

[CaptainCraiger]

A very long Winter project. It is not moving fast at all. Boat is flipped over . Alot of work done on the bottom. Boat finally in primer ready for paint. Primer was done in white , will be fun painting but wont show all the scuff marks from when wife drives the boat, lol.

[Hot Shot Merc]

Good to see some progress on yours too. My 20 project action looked the same way until sunday. Its back rightside up now and almost ready for paint as well. I hope to have pics up soon. Good luck with the rest of the restore:thumbsup:

[ultrafast]

crowd both seats to the left for a vast improvement in handling. OR put weight uder the passenger seat to balance the boat. Seriously the closerbyou get to center steer the better that boat willrun.

[CaptainCraiger]

Good to see some progress on yours too. My 20 project action looked the same way until sunday. Its back rightside up now and almost ready for paint as well. I hope to have pics up soon. Good luck with the rest of the restore:thumbsup:
Hopefully it is going to start moving a little faster. Are you going to Tarpon Grill for Cingo Di Mayo? I am going to be there in my Midnight.

Craig

[motorheadbishop]

Lookin good!:cheers:

[CaptainCraiger]

crowd both seats to the left for a vast improvement in handling. OR put weight uder the passenger seat to balance the boat. Seriously the closerbyou get to center steer the better that boat willrun.
Thanks for the info, I plan on having them just about touching, close to center as possible.

Craig

[CaptainCraiger]

Lookin good!:cheers:
Thanks Mike. Sorry to hear about yours. I hope to meet up with you again sometime on the East coast. I will bring my Center console over for the day.

Craig

[motorheadbishop]

Thanks Mike. Sorry to hear about yours. I hope to meet up with you again sometime on the East coast. I will bring my Center console over for the day.

Craig

It's all good, just a good reason for a new boat....lol...
If your ever over here, well hook up... Good salty water over here....

[dazigg]

Nice Craigger! Looks like she's coming together. When's the next Whiskey Creek party?

[CaptainCraiger]

Nice Craigger! Looks like she's coming together. When's the next Whiskey Creek party?Hey there Jeff, Working on trying to store the Sundance down there for the Summer. Most likely there will be a Sebring party before the Whiskey creek party. When is your Lake placid party? I like to hangout there with you.

Craig

[dazigg]

Hey there Jeff, Working on trying to store the Sundance down there for the Summer. Most likely there will be a Sebring party before the Whiskey creek party. When is your Lake placid party? I like to hangout there with you.

Craig

Ill let you know, sometime in July, planning a crawfish boil and jambalaya cookout at ole mans bar.

[Hot Shot Merc]

Hopefully it is going to start moving a little faster. Are you going to Tarpon Grill for Cingo Di Mayo? I am going to be there in my Midnight.

CraigNo Im going to the Drag strip to watch Andy Driver race his corvette. Have fun though. That should be fun run.

[CaptainCraiger]

I finally got my Action marine back. I am starting to rig it today. I hope to have it ready for Sebring. Only draw back is that I will be in the Keys for a week between now & then. I will keep you posted as it comes along.

[dazigg]

I finally got my Action marine back. I am starting to rig it today. I hope to have it ready for Sebring. Only draw back is that I will be in the Keys for a week between now & then. I will keep you posted as it comes along.

She's looking sweet Craigger! I'll see you in Sebring. Me and my cousin Pete will be there.

[NosBoss]

Its amazing how similar the bottom is to my ventura 2. In fact, i think its the same thing! Looks like you're moving along nicely now. What are you going to put in the large holes in the deck?

[mr fun]

just looked at this whole thread, thanks for posting it! I have a few questions, where did you come up with the seats, I like them. how are they mounted to the base, screws? and also wondered about the deck "vents"? coming along nicely, doing a 17 in about the same starting condition or a bit worse, trying to get it done in my head before just thrashing into it, thanks. fun out

[CaptainCraiger]

Its amazing how similar the bottom is to my ventura 2. In fact, i think its the same thing! Looks like you're moving along nicely now. What are you going to put in the large holes in the deck?
I am planning on putting 2 8" beck plates over the holes on the deck for now.

[CaptainCraiger]

just looked at this whole thread, thanks for posting it! I have a few questions, where did you come up with the seats, I like them. how are they mounted to the base, screws? and also wondered about the deck "vents"? coming along nicely, doing a 17 in about the same starting condition or a bit worse, trying to get it done in my head before just thrashing into it, thanks. fun out
The seats came with the boat, I just had them reupolstered. The seat cushion pops out & it will be screwed right to the boat. I just got done screwing hot foot in & under gunnel shifter in. Next thing is to bolt the jack plate on.

[CaptainCraiger]

I got the Setback plate also installed today. Steering next.

[CaptainCraiger]

I am finally back to working on the action, to many projects not enough time. I got my rebuilt 200 back from my mechanic. I have the engine mounted on boat. I started it yesterday & going through break in. The engine is overcharging & rectifier caught on fire, what away to start off . I ordered a new voltage /regulator kit for it from Pro marine today. I am going to have down at Lake placid for the weekend. Pictures later on today.

[motorheadbishop]

I am finally back to working on the action, to many projects not enough time. I got my rebuilt 200 back from my mechanic. I have the engine mounted on boat. I started it yesterday & going through break in. The engine is overcharging & rectifier caught on fire, what away to start off . I ordered a new voltage /regulator kit for it from Pro marine today. I am going to have down at Lake placid for the weekend. Pictures later on today.

Cool, look forward to seeing it at lake placid...
Now it time to have fun and enjoy it!!!;)
Dang even thou mine beat my butt, I miss the heck outta driven mine....

[MotoAce]

Curious about the shifter? That looks trick.

[CaptainCraiger]

Curious about the shifter? That looks trick. That is a shifter that I have had for over 20 years. I am not sure where it came from but it fits under the gunnel out of the way. Yes, A very trick piece.

[CaptainCraiger]

A work in progress. I still need to mount Gas tank. I am running the engine on a test tank. I have about 1 hour on break in. I hope to have back in the water on Wednesday to put more time on break in before taking to Lake Placid.

Craig

[warren]

Captain looking good nice from, where u came from/red rocket out

[CaptainCraiger]

Captain looking good nice from, where u came from/red rocket outThanks Warren, it has come a long way.

[Mr. Action]

Looking good capt keep em alive

[CaptainCraiger]

Looking good capt keep em aliveThank you Mr. Action, Going to fix back up Bishop's 18 Action also. I am trying to keep them alive.

[motorheadbishop]

Thank you Mr. Action, Going to fix back up Bishop's 18 Action also. I am trying to keep them alive.

Then sell it back to me....:p

[CaptainCraiger]

Then sell it back to me....:pI might just donate it back to you after the restoration. It is still on the board for restoration but got skipped by another boat project.

[sundancekid]

Lookin' good Craig!

[CaptainCraiger]

I have been slowly breaking the engine in. The weather isn't cooperating to well to my schedule. I have 2 hours breakin on it. Almost time to let it rip. The boat is sitting in its boat slip. I am off to my next project.

Craig

[Instigator]

Very nice Craig. For where you live, that would be a killer toy.
I'm jealous ; )

[CaptainCraiger]

Very nice Craig. For where you live, that would be a killer toy.
I'm jealous ; ) Thanks Gary, Yes, it is going to be fun running around here on the Kissimmee chain of lakes. I have been having a few little gremlins on the Engine rebuild. I hope my mechanic will be here over the Thanksgiving weekend & the power head will be broken in by then & it will be ready to rip.

Craig

[CaptainCraiger]

I finally got to open the boat up this weekend. I am still working on a small gremlin when engine is cold but when the engine warms up, it is running well. I am turning a 32 cleaver , 6500 rpm's. I am very happy with the boat so far. I will get the video from the weekend up loaded soon.

Craig

[frederick55]

Hurry up! I want to see it. Is 6500 maxing it out?

[CaptainCraiger]

Hurry up! I want to see it. Is 6500 maxing it out? Dam Phones/computer , I can't get it to download, keeping getting error. I still have a few more rpm's left. I am still getting used to the boat, need a lil more seat time. I need to get a gps for it next.

Craig

[frederick55]

Just interested what kind of speed you're seeing with the 32 Cleaver and at what max rpm. I can wait, thanks. Mine gets a little out of shape when I back out of the throttle. You have any of this going on? Needing more seat time with this setup also.

[NosBoss]

I was wondering the same thing. I'm not sure how bad the slip on a cleaver is, but 6500 and a 32 pitch prop @ 10 percent slip (I think that's a lot) puts him at 95mph. Damn good number if you ask me.

[frederick55]

I was wondering the same thing. I'm not sure how bad the slip on a cleaver is, but 6500 and a 32 pitch prop @ 10 percent slip (I think that's a lot) puts him at 95mph. Damn good number if you ask me.
That is a good number. Not hijacking his thread, but I'm confident the SpankyRude will pull more than that. Just wanted a comparison with the same hull to know what to expect.

[BeefKid]

how high is the motor? mine liked it bout 2" above with a 6" plate if i remember correct... mine ran 103 104( very scary!! lol) would run bout 95 98 everyday out and that was a little spooky lol when the trim is totally negative and the bow still wants to come up:eek: think it had more but you couldnt put a skittle in my arse at 103!! :p

[CaptainCraiger]

I am running the motor at 1 inch above bottom with a 6" setback. The boat gets a little squirrelly when letting off the gas. I am running the boat about neutral trim with the cleaver . I also tried a chopper & had to get the nose up to run. I liked the cleaver better. I will get a gps this weekend & another camera for pictures.

[Mr. Action]

Sounds like Mtr is too low u need to go up till u lose bow lift then drop back down a hair or if wtr prs is an issue I know tv omc won't have wtr issues it will lose bow lift b4 wtr prs not sure on da merc capt what lower unit u got if it's a sporty u will need to b up so hi u won't turn well lol I deff feel a sporty is slower on actions but for bay n beatings they deff hold up well

[CaptainCraiger]

I have a sporty on it now. I have a water pressure issue now. When I went to trim a lil higher than neutral, the boat tried to swap ends around, a little scary there. I was thinking about dropping it back down a little to put more lu back in the water. I guess it is all trial & error now & hope I don't get hurt, lol. I am very happy with the boat right now. I am going to try a few different props & see what happens, like to try a SRX prop, but so far like the cleaver the best.

Craig

[BeefKid]

The clever is good for the action cause they don't need any now lift from the prop. ..

[CaptainCraiger]

The clever is good for the action cause they don't need any now lift from the prop. .. That is what I was thinking, it performed very well & seemed to be stable without a whole lot of trim. Once I get a gps I can tell you what runs faster but seems to run faster with clever .

[NosBoss]

So, is the 18' action just a 16' with a pointy nose? Or is that supposed to be the 17'model?

[Mr. Action]

No actions r the same that style was made in 1617181920 other sizes made diff body's where 13-21 n center consoles were 21232528 only 1 28 b4 jay from spectre bought the molds n built like 5/10 boats was the old beach craft 28 fast n smooth but a lil ugly

[frederick55]

Great info guys. You can see in this photo that Actions don't need any trim. This is at around 5500 rpm. Anybody tried running negative wedges?
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[Little Jon]

i believe my 17 has wedges on it lol. I need to mess with engine height a little bit. But i am more concerned with getting out of the hole right now. Gonna get the engine timed and new gaskets this week so hopefully this weekend will be a good boating weekend

[CaptainCraiger]

i believe my 17 has wedges on it lol. I need to mess with engine height a little bit. But i am more concerned with getting out of the hole right now. Gonna get the engine timed and new gaskets this week so hopefully this weekend will be a good boating weekend

I live on the Kissimmee chain , we will have to meet up sometime, I live just south of Camp Mack.

[CaptainCraiger]

Great info guys. You can see in this photo that Actions don't need any trim. This is at around 5500 rpm. Anybody tried running negative wedges?
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Boat looking good there. I hope to get another video this weekend of my boat running.

Craig

[Little Jon]

ithink im gonna try to get a few together for this sunday.. you down if we go?

[CaptainCraiger]

ithink im gonna try to get a few together for this sunday.. you down if we go?Yes, I can come out & play on Sunday.

[frederick55]

Boat looking good there. I hope to get another video this weekend of my boat running.

Craig
Get one up there. I want to see how she runs:thumbsup:.

[CaptainCraiger]

Get one up there. I want to see how she runs:thumbsup:. I will this weekend.

[Little Jon]

Looks like sunday is a go as long as i get my head gaskets and installed by then lol.

[big D]

Come on get it to the mans house...its supposed to be great out Sunday..I will call out to Tim and Kenny And try the rest of the land locked crew..See ya Give me a call Sat.

[Little Jon]

big D, I'll be stopping by his house tomorrow after work, will be throwing the gaskets on saturday and hoping for the best.

[michael lang]

just throw a case of corona on the port side and after you drink it all either youll learn to keep it on the pad or it wont matter any more the how i leared to drive my old vking worked for me

[frederick55]

just throw a case of corona on the port side and after you drink it all either youll learn to keep it on the pad or it wont matter any more the how i leared to drive my old vking worked for me
LOL That's probably the the best kept secret on learning to drive a pad-v.:cheers:

[Little Jon]

I think the girlfriend will be taking pics and video recording so we should be able to get some good stuff. Just hoping these heads go well

[CaptainCraiger]

I just took a boat ride around the lake, A little bouncy out there, I hope it clears up for tomorrow.

[Little Jon]

And i am hoping i find a set of head gaskets..

[frederick55]

Hey CC, what kind of prop are you running? The bottom looked kinda wet in those pics with Little John on his thread despite a lot of trim. Are you still taking it easy on your break in? I'm thinking that would explain it.

[CaptainCraiger]

Hey CC, what kind of prop are you running? The bottom looked kinda wet in those pics with Little John on his thread despite a lot of trim. Are you still taking it easy on your break in? I'm thinking that would explain it. I am running a cleaver, it makes the ass end ride higher & when you trim it up the boat kinda get squirelly I want to try a srx next. I am still getting seat time in the boat also, I don't want to do anything crazy yet. The boat didn't like to fly the bow with that prop. I got a 28 chopper to try this weekend to see what happens, looking for a 30 chopper to try also.

Craig

[frederick55]

I am running a cleaver, it makes the ass end ride higher & when you trim it up the boat kinda get squirelly I want to try a srx next. I am still getting seat time in the boat also, I don't want to do anything crazy yet. The boat didn't like to fly the bow with that prop. I got a 28 chopper to try this weekend to see what happens, looking for a 30 chopper to try also.

Craig
Did you run the cleaver hard enough to get up high on the pad? You should start flying the bow if you do. Forward speed makes the bow fly, regardless of stern lift. If you're overtimmed when it starts to fly, that would explain it getting squirelly. Give it some trim (not too much) and nail it til it gets up on the pad and the bow starts to fly. As you increase speed drop trim to control it. Mine will fly the bow with no positive trim at anything over 75 -80 mph running a 32 Cleaver. The instability goes away as you reduce the trim while increasing speed, as long as you're balanced on the pad. I have also had fun with a 30 Hoss Triton. Hope this helps. Most of my experience is running Action's, but the power of the SpankyRude is adding a new dimension!

[baja200merk]

Did you run the cleaver hard enough to get up high on the pad? You should start flying the bow if you do. Forward speed makes the bow fly, regardless of stern lift. If you're overtimmed when it starts to fly, that would explain it getting squirelly. Give it some trim (not too much) and nail it til it gets up on the pad and the bow starts to fly. As you increase speed drop trim to control it. Mine will fly the bow with no positive trim at anything over 75 -80 mph running a 32 Cleaver. The instability goes away as you reduce the trim while increasing speed, as long as you're balanced on the pad. I have also had fun with a 30 Hoss Triton. Hope this helps. Most of my experience is running Action's, but the power of the SpankyRude is adding a new dimension!

How fast have you had it?

I bolted my powerhead on after Sam did some massaging and picked up 15 mph over the stock 225 on the same setup. All I did was swap powerhead. Boat ran 97 first time out with a 30 chopperII and I was full negative trim after 90. Chopper had way too much lift even all the way negative the bow would just start climbing toward the sky after 95.

[Billy Sedman]

I'm running a 26" real yamaha, 99.8 mph at 8300 rpm, had a bad aeromotive fuel pump which wouldn't let the motor turn up, we will see now with new motor and fuel pump!! flies straight as an arrow, and yes neg trim over 85!

[baja200merk]

I'm running a 26" real yamaha, 99.8 mph at 8300 rpm, had a bad aeromotive fuel pump which wouldn't let the motor turn up, we will see now with new motor and fuel pump!! flies straight as an arrow, and yes neg trim over 85!

Isnt yours a 16? Those lil boats are FAST...

[Little Jon]

Mine loves positive trim, hates negative.

[frederick55]

How fast have you had it?

I bolted my powerhead on after Sam did some massaging and picked up 15 mph over the stock 225 on the same setup. All I did was swap powerhead. Boat ran 97 first time out with a 30 chopperII and I was full negative trim after 90. Chopper had way too much lift even all the way negative the bow would just start climbing toward the sky after 95.
Somewhere around 88-90 with a 32 Cleaver, running about even with the pad. I haven't pushed beyond 5800- 6000 rpm yet and only for short intervals. Want to take it easy on the break in. I can tell it's got plenty left! If I jack it up it should easily turn over 7000rpm. I'm not going to push it before I've got 20hrs on it. Should see lower 100's if I want to live on the edge. What kind of rpm were you seeing with a comparable prop?

[Little Jon]

so you figure out your height? I'm stuck where i am at unless i do something to get more lift out of a jackplate.

[Billy Sedman]

Isnt yours a 16? Those lil boats are FAST...
Yes, it is, pretty light too:-)

[baja200merk]

Mine turned a 30 chopper II 7400 pedaling it because trim was tucked all the way in and bow was still coming up. motor was 1.5+ above I tried to get some prop out of water to kill bow lift but couldnt. I really didnt wanna get wet. Boat was a tanker too 700lbs bare hull no interior no rub rail nothing. Probably 900+ rigged probably only reason it drove so well and I never got wet. ONly other prop I ran on it was a 29 srx and it was much slower at more rpm I planed on sending it to DAH to work it but prop cracked before I could send it then sold action to my bro. He ran high 80s with a pos old wore out 225 80psi compression and a 32 cleaver.

heres first day out. Breakin :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biorh3irnSE

[frederick55]

Mine turned a 30 chopper II 7400 pedaling it because trim was tucked all the way in and bow was still coming up. motor was 1.5+ above I tried to get some prop out of water to kill bow lift but couldnt. I really didnt wanna get wet. Boat was a tanker too 700lbs bare hull no interior no rub rail nothing. Probably 900+ rigged probably only reason it drove so well and I never got wet. ONly other prop I ran on it was a 29 srx and it was much slower at more rpm I planed on sending it to DAH to work it but prop cracked before I could send it then sold action to my bro. He ran high 80s with a pos old wore out 225 80psi compression and a 32 cleaver.

heres first day out. Breakin :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biorh3irnSE
:thumbsup:Thanks for the vid Baja. You guys know how to break'em....in!:rolleyes: I don't know if mine is much lighter, if any. Seems like hull weight from Barney said 670lbs. Don't know if that included tank, interior, rigging, or not. When I restored mine I added another layer of 18oz mat roving to the hull and also on the new deck, which added weight. I'm probably running in the same ballpark. Not so good for drags (which ain't my thing) but probably better for top end. Did you guys ever run negative wedges? I've got some I could try that I ran on the Viking.

[BeefKid]

My spanky motor would spin my 26 (which runs like a28)7500 8k all day lol. ..never tried wedges was a thought tho

[frederick55]

My spanky motor would spin my 26 (which runs like a28)7500 8k all day lol. ..never tried wedges was a thought tho

I'd be afraid of adding a window at 8k. Some people are bulletproof I guess! :cool:

[great adventure]

what is the best jack hight for action 18 boat 260 hp mercury efi offshore 24 chopper yamy 9.500 rpm

[SprayinThemUp]

Finishing the project u started CaptainCraiger.. u should of covered those hole on the deck

[CUDA]

Bring back the Dead...?

OH! that's Easter

Funny statement, He's not going to spin it up till he has 20 hours on it, in my world that's past rebuild time :D

Or how high should I run my motor, till you run out of water pressure ;)



"Somewhere around 88-90 with a 32 Cleaver, running about even with the pad. I haven't pushed beyond 5800- 6000 rpm yet and only for short intervals. Want to take it easy on the break in. I can tell it's got plenty left! If I jack it up it should easily turn over 7000rpm. I'm not going to push it before I've got 20hrs on it."