Jack Plate Selection for Lake and Bay Boca Grande

[Curdog]

Hey folks,

Trying to decide what jackplate to go with on my Lake annd BAy. If your not familiar with the boat, they are a flats boat hull, weighs around 1200 lbs....great riding, fast hull.... I am going to power her with a 250 Yammer SHO. The boat is the pocket hull version, not the full transom.

I have previously had a full transom boat, and It was rigged with the 7" Stainless marine Setback bracket and a 4.5" Hydro Jackplate. The setback bracket has a negative angle on it. This was a good setup, boat planed and ran great, it did sit low in the back end. I am trying to not get this boat to sit as low in the back.

this boat came with a para lift, that was seeing its age so I took it off. It says rated up to 450 lbs, new motor is 505 without oil. Was a little uneasy about taking that chance? has anybody heard of problem with overrating these?

Bob's machine shop makes a 10" setback hydro plate that only weight 45lbs, That would be about 35lbs lighter than the stainless marine setup I had previously mentioned. I am just curious how much difference the draft will be minus the 35lbs, and how it will effect my speed compared to the Stainless marine setup that is around 2 inches further back and has a negative angle?

Or should I ressurect the para lift and not worry about the overloading of the weight?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[native2]

I would stay away from the paralift. I personally like an 8 inch Bob's with a set of transom wedges installed between the motor and jack. Don't really need the wedges, but it helps the boat get out of the hole with very little bow rise. I had a ten inch on mine, switched to a six and saw no difference in speed but it did help in the midrange and hole shot.

[Curdog]

native, So you switched from a 10" to a six inch and basically got improved performance?

Then, I wonder why the heck everybody is so concerned with setting them as far back as possible?

[bretter]

stainless marine gorilla jack + their flats setback bracket.

http://www.stainlessmarine.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=4&category_id=50&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

[Curdog]

Bretter,

Do you have experience with other setups on this boat other than what your suggesting? My last L & B and 2 of my buddies all have the same setup that you are suggesting.....but none of us have any experience with anything else other than that setup.....other than para lifts, I have another buddy that has a paralift on his, with a Yammer 225 and runs nice......

[perfss]

look at the new bobs action series with 12" - 14" setback. The lake and bay boca likes set back. The paralift is i think 14" setback.

www.mercuryperformance.com

[bretter]

my cousin has a lake and bay copy with the stainless marine jackplate and a 300xs. i run the stainless on my LCB and its the strongest and best jackplate on the market. pricey though.

I have no experience setting up one of these hulls but native2 or XtremeVking on this site are they guys to talk to....

[F14]

Check out the Atlas from TM Marine. I just installed one on my boat. It is built very strong with a good guideway design. Good price as well.

[JPEROG]

Take a look at the porta products bracket-twice the lift of any jackplate out there (killer for flats boats) best customer service out there and made right here in FL. www.portaproducts.com (http://www.portaproducts.com)

[native2]

Take a look at the porta products bracket-twice the lift of any jackplate out there (killer for flats boats) best customer service out there and made right here in FL. www.portaproducts.com (http://www.portaproducts.com)

Yes, they are nice. But 17 inches of setback is a bit much for the lake and bay. The portas are really meant for a boat with a full transom. I like around 10 inches on a L&B. 8 inch plate with wedges = 10 inches..... JMO :cheers: The new plate from Bob's with the pump built in is pretty nice.
I have not tried an Atlas Jack but I hear good things.

[manateemauler]

the stainless marine is the best way to go just sold my l&b with that same setup bobs don't like
to lift under hard running that's just my 2 cent's

[flatstroker]

Curious how your 20 lake and bay rides with the 250SHO. Thinking about repowering mine with the SHO. What kind of performance are you getting WOT with tournament load. What kind of mpg

[stokernick]

Check out the Atlas from TM Marine. I just installed one on my boat. It is built very strong with a good guideway design. Good price as well.

I,too,have the Atlas and love it!

[Curdog]

Still messing around with the thing. Love the 250. I am seeing 70 mph on the gps, but I am propped wrong. I am only turning 5400. I imagine there is a couple more mph in there with the right prop. Still working on it. I can not imagine the desire to buy anything other than that motor, for that boat. Hole shot is unmatched.

[XstreamVking]

Same boat with 250XS that I rigged few years ago ran nearly 80 on GPS. It had a porta bracket and the batts for the troller up frt. 2002 pocket boat.. 29p tempest prop, 6000r's

[ZO6]

I know this is an old thread.... I was just wondering what you settled on. I have a Lake and Bay Boca, 250 XS TM and 73-74 gps at 5850rpm depending on load. 30 gallons fuel 4 batteries 3 up front, tm lots of rods and tackle. Same load full fuel equals 69 GPS. I am thinking about getting some of the weight off the transom and was wondering what your end result was. I presently have the Stainless Marine with 12 in setback plus 4 in JP with wedges. Thinking it might allow me to move at least one battery back with a rearrange in the port compartment where the JP and Powerpole electrical are located.
What were your results? Thinking I may have overkill but has run well for 10 years.