How fast with twin 150's (24 Skater)

[waterboy222]

In an effort to attain affordable insurance, I'm considering a set of 150's..

Neutering a boat has always been a slap in the face, but fuel economy and insurance holds a pretty high priority anymore..

A set of warrantied 150/200hp motors are looking better and better.

What could I expect with dropping down to such a lower HP motor? Do they make a 150 in a 15"?

What are my options here?

Since it will be just a play boat, 75 mph would be more than adequate.

[Capt.Insane-o]

Not nearly enough power IMO, 225's minimum. Without a tunnel tab it'll be really hard to keep out of the hippity hop.

[mrpenguin]

220s Lasers (rated at the crank did upper 80s. I think with strong 150hp's you could be knocking at 80s with the right set up.

[Rayzor]

Not nearly enough power IMO, 225's minimum. Without a tunnel tab it'll be really hard to keep out of the hippity hop.

I completely agree! Put a single 300XS on it before twin 150s. Should run about 90 w/ the single XS (plus not porpoise as bad as twins because of less weight on the transom) and you get 2 years warranty.The insurance should be reasonable, I was paying just under $2k a year on my Trick 21 w/ single 300 that ran over 100.

[1 Tuff 69]

With who ?

[dp29]

Johns 24 with two stock 2.5 200 carbs ran 98 with two in the boat......

[eli]

couple of late eighty;s 200 black max with some massaging 175 decals are dirt cheep will help on ins and should still flirt 90

[Rayzor]

With who ?

Wozencraftinsurance.com

[lokinutz]

Wozencraftinsurance.com

Ah yes, Wozencraft. Same company that asked me how to spell Evinrude, and then told me she thought my Stoker was more like a 60 mph boat than 90 since it was only 225hp at the time. Guess I will have to become an RDP member and ask her again.:rolleyes:

I do have to say though, that quite a few people I have talked to have had very good results with Wozen, and highly recommend them.

[waterboy222]

I completely agree! Put a single 300XS on it before twin 150s. Should run about 90 w/ the single XS (plus not porpoise as bad as twins because of less weight on the transom) and you get 2 years warranty.The insurance should be reasonable, I was paying just under $2k a year on my Trick 21 w/ single 300 that ran over 100.

Im very interested in this idea! So if I used one of my 300 Promax's, what could I expect out of it? How would it handle with a single? Speeds?

I was under the impression you couldn't have a single without a pod... And which rotation would I want?

[Capt.Insane-o]

A single is going to get the sh*t kicked out of it without some sort of center pod.

[warren]

Stay with 200s should go in the 90s all day an dy frost ust 2 run them in the old days with clam shell 200s power head rated always happy hes going 100 plus with 225 you will have plenty to get out of the hop dont go to 150s

[Speed Jr.]

Etec 200HO's are 3.3L......Bigger than what you got. Would push your boat without breaking a sweat while sipping fuel.

Jr.

[waterboy222]

Etec 200HO's are 3.3L......Bigger than what you got. Would push your boat without breaking a sweat while sipping fuel.

Jr.

For almost $40,000? Yikes! I'm out on that idea.. I could burn a lot of fuel and insurance with $40,000 in my pocket!

[waterboy222]

A single is going to get the sh*t kicked out of it without some sort of center pod.

That was my biggest concern... dang.

[DonG]

That was my biggest concern... dang.

This one seems to run good with a single........
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifieds/2003_24_skater_w_new_2012_300xs_new_in_box-o32991-en.html

[Superbender]

200'S with 150,decals a serial numbers

[Speed Jr.]

For almost $40,000? Yikes! I'm out on that idea.. I could burn a lot of fuel and insurance with $40,000 in my pocket!

Have no idea where you shop, but damn, at that price Im out too....

[eli]

24 skater will not do 100+ with 1 stock 300, nfw

[Forkin' Crazy]

For almost $40,000? Yikes! I'm out on that idea.. I could burn a lot of fuel and insurance with $40,000 in my pocket!

What? New maybe? I found a couple 300s with 4 yrs of warranty left for less than 30K!!!

[Speed Jr.]

All the 3.4 250HO's Ive ever purchased, some being brand new leftover stock, have been under 10K. Its not hard around me to find 3.3's for 7-8K used.

[Rayzor]

That was my biggest concern... dang.

Do not let this stop you from going to a single. There are lots of single engine true tunnels out there. I only owned my 21 Trick for a season (put 45 hours on it) and didn't have any problems from the water in the tunnel beating up the gearcase. In the olds days when guys were racing triples on 32 Skaters, yes, they would see more problems on the center gearcase/mids/transom assemblies due to the center motor not being behind a sponson. However, this was under ocean racing conditions that I highly doubt your 24'/single setup will ever see (a 24' can't run big speed in big water like the 32s did anyways). Plus, if you buy a new 300XS, it has a 2 year warranty from top to bottom. $16,500 gets you a brand new one, and you will get 4mpg at 75mph cruise. I'm not saying I personally would want a single 300XS/24 Skater, because I want triple digit speeds, but if 90+ is fine for you, I think it would be a great setup. My 21 Trick/300XS would run a best of 105 and cruise 80 no problem. I think you would see over 90 by yourself, and a cruise speed just fast enough to get over the midrange hop (75 or so). The single engine setup would also work very well in big water (if that's where you boat) because of the more favorable CG with only 500 pounds hanging off the back instead of 750. UIM Class 3C in Europe races single engine 23' - 26' true tunnel cats offshore exclusively.

[Capt.Insane-o]

24 skater will not do 100+ with 1 stock 300, nfw

I think a 300xs would have a hard time seeing 90, and be pretty weak acceleration wise. I've seen a couple euro cats up close and they pack much more air than the skater, hence the better speeds. Not saying I'm any 24 skater expert, but I've run and set them up with from 200's to 300 hp 2.5's. 200's are barely adequate, 225's are minimum power I would pick, 260's and 280's if you want to rock.

[Rayzor]

I think a 300xs would have a hard time seeing 90, and be pretty weak acceleration wise. I've seen a couple euro cats up close and they pack much more air than the skater, hence the better speeds. Not saying I'm any 24 skater expert, but I've run and set them up with from 200's to 300 hp 2.5's. 200's are barely adequate, 225's are minimum power I would pick, 260's and 280's if you want to rock.

I do think 90 is attainable when light, but I completely agree with your post. You're much more of a 24 expert than I am, as I've never even been in one. I've had a couple 28s and a 21, so that's what I'm basing my posts on. My buddy has a 23 Argo w/ a 300X on it - much lighter, more lift and narrower sponsons for less hydrodynamic drag than a 24 Skater. That thing ROCKS (you wouldn't believe me if I told you how fast it is)! I wish they raced those Class 3C boats on the West Coast of the US - I'd definitely have one!

[tux974]

IMPO, 2.5 200's at minimum. 225PM's would be an awesome reliable choice, with great weight to power ratio and some new cowl decals ;):D If you decide on a single (not sure a single is a good setup for a 24' Skater, it would never be my choice) you will need a center pod from a 36' Skater installed, Peter will make and send you one.

[Capt.Insane-o]

I do think 90 is attainable when light, but I completely agree with your post. You're much more of a 24 expert than I am, as I've never even been in one. I've had a couple 28s and a 21, so that's what I'm basing my posts on. My buddy has a 23 Argo w/ a 300X on it - much lighter, more lift and narrower sponsons for less hydrodynamic drag than a 24 Skater. That thing ROCKS (you wouldn't believe me if I told you how fast it is)! I wish they raced those Class 3C boats on the West Coast of the US - I'd definitely have one!

I was lucky enough to get a ride in an Argo.. I'd have one too!

[perfmarine1]

This one seems to run good with a single........
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifieds/2003_24_skater_w_new_2012_300xs_new_in_box-o32991-en.html

How can the motor be (new in box) and give a GPS speed reading? Not to mention a bear to plane off with no center sponson.

[waterboy222]

Thanks for everyones input.. Still tryin to decide and do more research!

[rastadr]

i had a 91 24 with a 20" 300x. in NY it was in the high 90's. when i got it to miami i lost 10% of that from temperature and humidity. i switched the gears from 1.62 to 1.75 which did wake it up but lost more speed. finally i sold it because it just didn't have the excitement factor that a 24 should have. i was one of the lucky ones that slipped it past progressive calling it a douglas marine. they have closed that loophole since then. with the boat set up the way you have it you have one of the most intense rides on the planet. going to a single will devistate the performance of the boat. now i have a T3 with a 15" 280 that does everything 20x better than my skater did except big water. so i pick my days and im the happiest boater on this website!

[Go Time]

What's a T3?

[racerx]

Rastadr 100 percent correct...

[rastadr]

Full throttle powerboats quartershot t3 go to scream and fly home page it happens to be the boat of the month and there are pics

[Rayzor]

Full throttle powerboats quartershot t3 go to scream and fly home page it happens to be the boat of the month and there are pics

Nice looking T3R! I agree with you on the larger cat/single engine deal (boring). I sold my Mirage 4 seater/2.5/280/ROS afer 7 years to get something that better suited the new girlfriend/daughter. So I got the Trick 21 and put a 300XS on it thinking that would do it for me. Well, it didn't, now the Trick is sold and I'm having a 23MTR built that I'm putting twin 2.5/200XS/ROS motors on. I've come to the conclusion that I'm only happy with single outboards on boats under 20', twin outboards on boats up to 28' - and after that I gotta' have inboards!

[rastadr]

Earlier in the thead there was a link to grant albrights boat in california. This was the last 24 peter at skater ever built and he built it specifically for a single 300x. It is way lighter than every other one and has water pickups built into the hull. This is the cleanest 24 out there. Grant spends 10 hours cleaning for every hour on the water, and he is selling it with a 300x out of a crate with zero hours. This would be the most fun 24 with a single but still not like twins

[tux974]

Earlier in the thead there was a link to grant albrights boat in california. This was the last 24 peter at skater ever built and he built it specifically for a single 300x. It is way lighter than every other one and has water pickups built into the hull. This is the cleanest 24 out there. Grant spends 10 hours cleaning for every hour on the water, and he is selling it with a 300x out of a crate with zero hours. This would be the most fun 24 with a single but still not like twins

100% TRUE info!!:thumbsup: That boat was built much lighter and specifically for the single engine application! Center pod and hull pick ups :thumbsup:
I also :iagree: it will never run like a twin engine. IMPO, you will actually be bored after the first week due to it not having that thrilled factor.

[fast fun 2]

The boat was made for twins. There was even an offshore class that was 24 Skaters with 200s, its a great package. Bolted right on the transom, it wont porpuse and youll have an excellent handling very fast boat.

[NAVISPEED1]

Waterboy, what did you do with the repowering?
Interesting read, I'm a big fan of the Skater 24, but the insurance is a deal breaker for me for now.
I'm also considering the single set up. I totally understand the exitment factor with twins but running around 90 should be ok for me.

Rastadr, your 24 was a great set up, I would love to replicate the performance on another 24.
Was this your Skater? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdE24q_EuYg This looks to me fun enough!!!! :D

Running over 100 is for sure awesome, but I think insurance is double or triple than running around 90. Plus, then with twins you have double maintenance double fuel consumption and just double trouble LOL, JMHO.

[tux974]

Waterboy, what did you do with the repowering?
Interesting read, I'm a big fan of the Skater 24, but the insurance is a deal breaker for me for now.
I'm also considering the single set up. I totally understand the exitment factor with twins but running around 90 should be ok for me.

Rastadr, your 24 was a great set up, I would love to replicate the performance on another 24.
Was this your Skater? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdE24q_EuYg This looks to me fun enough!!!! :D

Running over 100 is for sure awesome, but I think insurance is double or triple than running around 90. Plus, then with twins you have double maintenance double fuel consumption and just double trouble LOL, JMHO.

No, that was a local guy here on LI, NY Dan. He had a 15" mid and it ran real well for a single.
He is a member on here so maybe he will post on it!

[warren]

I have a 24 twin 280 ros my allstate guy insures me 4 1175 a yr 500000 liability 50000on boat and motors independant agents can do alot when they want 2 /red rocket out

[NAVISPEED1]

No, that was a local guy here on LI, NY Dan. He had a 15" mid and it ran real well for a single.
He is a member on here so maybe he will post on it!

Thanks Tux, that is a darn nice single 24 Skater!


I have a 24 twin 280 ros my allstate guy insures me 4 1175 a yr 500000 liability 50000on boat and motors independant agents can do alot when they want 2 /red rocket out

1175 doesn't sound too bad at all.
Thx Warren!

[mrpenguin]

How much speed difference could there really be between 2.5 liter 150hp's? and 200hp's? I think you would be easily above 85mph. Earlier in the thread there is a report of twin stock 200s running upper 90s.

[NAVISPEED1]

In an effort to attain affordable insurance, I'm considering a set of 150's..

Neutering a boat has always been a slap in the face, but fuel economy and insurance holds a pretty high priority anymore..

A set of warrantied 150/200hp motors are looking better and better.

What could I expect with dropping down to such a lower HP motor? Do they make a 150 in a 15"?

What are my options here?

Since it will be just a play boat, 75 mph would be more than adequate.


How about, 175 Pro XS's, I think that's the biggest 2.5 you can get with warranty, I think that would be a nice reliable set up! BTW you will need to add Sport masters. Not super fast but should be touching 90, I think.