Got the itch again....

[Instigator]

Had the STV and it was way too pretty for me to dial in my work bench motor on. Had the A Bote and didn't have the time/money at the same time.(perfect boat for the program if timing was better)
Have my eye on something that kinda goes back to my roots. Cheap enough to leave in the weeds when I don't have the time/money but solid enough to let me finish dialing in my project motor and get out w/dirty underwear each time.
Have only seen maybe 75% of whats in this motor and you have to wonder.........humhhhh.
Plus a guy just opened a motor/machine shop across the street from me w/all the capabilities that I don't have. Including dyno :reddevil:
Course timing is perfect as I just finished selling all my best wheels and spare parts. (for the 2nd time)

Also collecting parts for another OMC project. (the board has been way too quiet on this side for too long)

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll255/Instigatorspixs/DSCF1753.jpg

[Tom Foley]

Can't beat that location !! Bring lots of beer !

[oldschoolltv]

Gary I was wondering if you still had the motor, I want to see it in person someday, scratch that itch man, Matt

[Instigator]

scratch that itch man, Matt
What's up w/the rest of the OMC guys around here?? I have to come back from the dead to wake people up?
BTW Matt, that motor has just been waiting on something special.
5 mnths and counting.

[1BadAction]

Dude, glutton for punishment!

I'm with you. :D

So what is this "something" you have your eye on? :reddevil:

[Instigator]

So what is this "something" you have your eye on? :reddevil:
On-line I won't tell you. Call me and I will.
Think "Satan's" big brother ;)

[jjmalkow]

What's up w/the rest of the OMC guys around here?? I have to come back from the dead to wake people up?
BTW Matt, that motor has just been waiting on something special.
5 mnths and counting.

Us V4 Looper guys up here are holding it down,waters a little stiff right now! some winter work going on!

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii419/jjmalkow/TheLooper.jpg

[jjmalkow]

Got one season under my belt with this motor, still learning alot,lots too go also.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii419/jjmalkow/ModLooper.jpg

[Instigator]

Got one season under my belt with this motor, still learning alot,lots too go also.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii419/jjmalkow/ModLooper.jpg
Very cool.
What's w/the wavy finish on the sides of the block in the bottom picture?? Also, ask the owner of that motor if those are my velocity stacks or his buddies in Cincinati that also made them ;)
Thanks for posting regardless. I want to do a 4 almost as bad as an 8!
You guys have 4's running fast enough to scare any smart man w/a 6 :)
Way cool, stuff!
PS, actually I see the red stacks are actually Evolution Marines (based on construction) and the silvers are someone elses.

[BarryStrawn]

Hey Gary - I think I removed a bit too much weight from your old flywheel. This is what remains.:)

[Instigator]

Hey Gary - I think I removed a bit too much weight from your old flywheel. This is what remains.:)
Come on....................., ;)
Might actually have something this time Barry ;)

[gfinch]

Hey Gary - I think I removed a bit too much weight from your old flywheel. This is what remains.:)

I don't know if that clear plastic will hold up!

[Instigator]

Got one season under my belt with this motor, still learning alot,lots too go also.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii419/jjmalkow/ModLooper.jpg

Oop's. Just re-read your post.
Thought this was one of Lakers creations. Love the 4 bangers. BTW, the epoxy on the side of the block lets us know there's something special inside ;)
I want to see/hear one run. Chris and crew has progressed a bit since I last saw him run many yrs ago ;)

[Instigator]

Hey Gary - I think I removed a bit too much weight from your old flywheel. This is what remains.:)

PS, looks like one of my blocks after a port job ;)

[fairwindracing]

good to find the omc guys
ill be watching!!!

[Instigator]

I may re-start a thread on the tech section w/info about this motor if there is interest.

[Da Bull]

I would like to read about it.

DB

[Instigator]

I would like to read about it.

DB

Will do Bobby. PS, is the # you're using this morning a new cell #?? I have 8623.

[RRRevinrude]

Hey Gary--just ran the ally yesterday and finally got some good results....went the wrong way with a verado high pressure fuel pump in the tank and surprise =it couldn't keep up with the carbs...still haven't figured that one out yet-but I put a new holley blue pump outside the tank and finally saw over 7000....jets are way too fat-gonna put a big wheel on there and see what its got at Alva next week....motor is still too low on jack plate-gonna try a 32 cleaver before raising it...got no jets to choose from-has 86s in it now-need some 82s or 83s....I HATE CARBUERATORS..............greg

[Chaz]

I may re-start a thread on the tech section w/info about this motor if there is interest.

Your gonna write it , even if there is no interest .. :D
As for me , I always enjoy a topic that gets "Instigated" .. Start .. err .. keep bangin da keys , brudda .. :thumbsup:

[Instigator]

Hey Gary--just ran the ally yesterday and finally got some good results....went the wrong way with a verado high pressure fuel pump in the tank and surprise =it couldn't keep up with the carbs...still haven't figured that one out yet-but I put a new holley blue pump outside the tank and finally saw over 7000....jets are way too fat-gonna put a big wheel on there and see what its got at Alva next week....motor is still too low on jack plate-gonna try a 32 cleaver before raising it...got no jets to choose from-has 86s in it now-need some 82s or 83s....I HATE CARBUERATORS..............greg

Awesome stuff Greg! We need pix's though ;) Good luck and be careful next weekend. As I told you, it is possible to blow over an A Bote and your record would indicate that........., not even going to say it;)
Did you change the balance of the boat like we talked about? I'd have either had battery in the bow or motor on transom before I played w/it again.


Chaz ;)

[jjmalkow]

Gary, Chris and i have alot of work into our motors. The whole last summer was basically jetting for me,still fat in the mid,but she is a monster. Great fun and wouldn't trade it for anything.

[RRRevinrude]

Gary--I didn't move any weight around-just raised the motor from where you had it..I think it was too low...went up 3/4 inch and it drives excellent...I think it wants to be up more but I'm gonna try the big cleaver and see if that makes enough tale lift...so far-this thing drives great around 90 with a small prop....we will see.............greg:D:D

[Eggsuckindog]

I have to say you get a second wind pretty fast

[Instigator]

I have to say you get a second wind pretty fast

Why what ever do you mean?

[Da Bull]

Will do Bobby. PS, is the # you're using this morning a new cell #?? I have 8623.



Not a new number. Had it now for about 15 years. Never had that 8623.

[patchesII]

Gary--I didn't move any weight around-just raised the motor from where you had it..I think it was too low...went up 3/4 inch and it drives excellent...I think it wants to be up more but I'm gonna try the big cleaver and see if that makes enough tale lift...so far-this thing drives great around 90 with a small prop....we will see.............greg:D:D

How high is it? How far back? With a Mercury on the back and an 8" plate it'll run good between 3/8" and 1/2" above. I ran it at 3/8" but it could've easily gone to 1/2"

[RRRevinrude]

6" plate-bout1/4" below still....we don't run these fat motors back so far....sorry Gary-not tryin to hijack yer thread.....greg

[baja200merk]

Gary your killing 2 birds with one stone. Come check out the lightning case and make sure your hitch is in the receiver! :D

I did some itch scratching my self today and man it feels good and the the girl friend even likes it! :thumbsup:

http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?244983-T-1-E-tec-200HO-Madien-Voyage&p=2261725#post2261725

[1BadAction]

On-line I won't tell you. Call me and I will.
Think "Satan's" big brother ;)

Ohhhhhhhhh (light goes on) Good/Bad to hear. :D You taking a ride over to alva?

[Image 21]

if anybody needs some parts my buddy has a toasted 99 ficht has two holes in the block but he has all the other parts. he`s looking to part it out, 25" mid

[Instigator]

Gary your killing 2 birds with one stone. Come check out the lightning case and make sure your hitch is in the receiver! :D

Great idea. Saw your post. Well done son. I'm impressed. Love the low water p/u!

[baja200merk]

Great idea. Saw your post. Well done son. I'm impressed. Love the low water p/u!

Ok, 3 birds with 1 stone..... We will bring the fishin boat and take the t-1 the lake is only 2 miles from the shop :thumbsup:

[Instigator]

Ok, 3 birds with 1 stone..... We will bring the fishin boat and take the t-1 the lake is only 2 miles from the shop :thumbsup:

Sounds good. Waiting on the boat owner to get back in town so I can plan my road trip. Now thinking about trying to tie it in w/Alva.
Would like to see Greg run the A Bote.
We'll see.

[LaveyT]

I think the silver ones are yours with the anodize polished off. The radius on the front curls around like the Evolution.

[action17]

Will do Bobby. PS, is the # you're using this morning a new cell #?? I have 8623.

wrong Bobby Gary.. thats my number

[Instigator]

wrong Bobby Gary.. thats my number

Doh! ;)

Dave, I sold a bunch of naked ones. Funny too, I had a 100 of those made and I only have one that I kept. Had a recent discussion about yours too. I shortened mine a 1/4" or so from the Evolutions to aid cowling clearance on the top carbs and thought that you did not???? My friend thought you also did that?
PS, how's the weather ;)

[MODVP22]

On-line I won't tell you. Call me and I will.
Think "Satan's" big brother ;)

big brother? Uh oh...I mean, Yehaw!

[LaveyT]

Doh! ;)

Dave, I sold a bunch of naked ones. Funny too, I had a 100 of those made and I only have one that I kept. Had a recent discussion about yours too. I shortened mine a 1/4" or so from the Evolutions to aid cowling clearance on the top carbs and thought that you did not???? My friend thought you also did that?
PS, how's the weather ;)

Mine are still the same length. I just heard about the clearance issues from a Friend. He said the later model cowls are tighter? Sounds like changes may be made if I run any more. Or just run the Martini (short) stacks.

The weather is not like yours! But you know all about Ohio weather. My Uncle lives close to Castalia/Marble Head and he said the lake is clearing up now. He put his boat away early with the Algae issues. Its been weird here almost 6ft of rain this year in Cincinnati.
I went up to the house boat to add some bracing under the old plywood. It was depressing as hell with ice forming. there were 7 bass boats out on the lake (trailer count).
Enjoy the sun Man!

[Instigator]

The Mrs told me to go get sometin for my itch ;) Hope this is what she meant :reddevil:


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll255/Instigatorspixs/v-kingsidegarage.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll255/Instigatorspixs/v-kingfrntgarage.jpg

[Tom Foley]

You know how do drive one of them boats Gary!! LOL Should be a blast with Ole Frankie on the back ! . Now don't turn it into a project just drive it !!

[Instigator]

don't turn it into a project just drive it !!
Seems my reputation preceeds me ;) Great advice Tom. Now let's see if I'm that smart!

[josh7_78]

Great advice Tom. Now let's see if I'm that smart!

Looking forward to seeing your progress on the setup :cheers:

[Action Dave]

The wife was probably just suggesting Gold Bond powder for that "itch":D

Nice looking 'Stream. Hope to see it on the water soon.

[motorheadbishop]

Hell yeah Gary!!!
That's what I'm talkin bout! CONGRATS!!!!!
Time to have some fun!

[oldschoolltv]

Nice, cant wait to see it on the water, Matt

[RRRevinrude]

Bring it to Alva.....You got all day tomorrow to rig it--Get off yer ass and start turnin wrenches:D:D...........greg

[1BadAction]

Seems my reputation preceeds me ;) Great advice Tom. Now let's see if I'm that smart!

Fiberglass Florida in Rockledge has great prices and stocks all the chit you'll need. Good luck. :D

[baja200merk]

Looks good gary, push the motor over and bolt it on. You dont even have to pull the merc harness out of it just make an adapter takes about 15mins and looks factory, this way when you sell it next week you can advertise it "rigged for merc" :eek: :D :D


Fiberglass Florida in Rockledge has great prices and stocks all the chit you'll need. Good luck. :D

He said smart, not smart ass :D

He is getting smarter with his age :eek: this one is done and solid :thumbsup:

Glad to see you made it back with no issues we got cut short today but give me a ring after you review my PM :cheers:

[RRRevinrude]

Looks good gary, push the motor over and bolt it on. You dont even have to pull the merc harness out of it just make an adapter takes about 15mins and looks factory, this way when you sell it next week you can advertise it "rigged for merc" :eek: :D :D

He said smart, not smart ass :D

He is getting smarter with his age :eek: this one is done and solid :thumbsup:

Glad to see you made it back with no issues we got cut short today but give me a ring after you review my PM :cheers:

Thats some funny stuff

[racer]

RRrevinrude carbs are easy, I have spent the last day and half mapping an efi system and its still not done. Need to get it finished as the projects are lining up.

[RRRevinrude]

Racer--make ya a deal--I'll send you my carbs-you set them up-I'll send ya my fuel curves from Galen Burden(with some minor tweaking) that worked well in pro gas up to 9800 rpms...LOL.......................greg

[Instigator]

when you sell it next week
Goooood one ;)

Boat needs gauges, and a wiring harness. Trailer needs rollers and tires.
Definitely a case of Dejavu when going through the boat yesterday. Wayne (seller) was a trooper and walked away when I used to a 2" x 4" to check the core for goop :p

Should be a fun project. Reminds me of how good of a lake boat my old Vector was contrary to how all the experts said it would run w/my pig motor on the back :icon_bs: Only negatives I ever saw in that boat would be gone w/a V-king.
No doubt that the A Bote (that RRRevinrude now owns) would have been a better mule but timing was wrong and I always loved the lines of the classic Streams. IMO, one of the most gorgeous designs ever.

May have already posted another example of my superior intelligence of selling absolutely, every one of my small boat go fast wheels. Closest thing I have to a good prop for this boat is one of the 26" Choppers for the Sonic :o

Here's one of my favorite pix's of the Vector from 7 or so yrs ago. In the Gulf of Mexico, off the beach at Cayo Costa (2 islands north of Captiva) on one of it's many trips outside. That boat went all over the place. Notice the OH registration ;)

Or this video of it @ 101 w/a very mild motor 2" bellow the pad ;)

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll255/Instigatorspixs/th_streamat101.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll255/Instigatorspixs/?action=view&current=streamat101.mp4)
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll255/Instigatorspixs/vectoringulf.jpg

[RRRevinrude]

Like I said-bring it to Alva--bolt sumthin on the back and bring it -we can help finish riggin it in the parkin lot...he he....greg

[Instigator]

Like I said-bring it to Alva--bolt sumthin on the back and bring it -we can help finish riggin it in the parkin lot...he he....greg
hurdles to clear. When I first built this motor I had the STV w/a 20" transom. When tilting the motor up, the tiller arm hit the deck which meant the tiller arm went bye bye.
So to work on this boat I either A., spend a grand to run side ram hydraulic, B., run string steer which I sold all my parts for plus don't want in this boat anyway., or C., do what I'm doing to run the dual cable that's already in boat.
New donor tube/arm is at the machine show (gambled and dropped it off a wk ago to at least be in line) but as with most good shops, he works at his own speed.
I have no simple projects.

[baja200merk]

if you leave now you could have it back at the house by lunch :D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Teleflex-Capilano-Hydarulic-Helm-Model-250V-1080-/350491353853?hash=item519ae9a2fd&item=350491353853&pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&vxp=mtr

[action17]

Congrats on the new boat Gary!

[Instigator]

Now this is hilarious!

So I do a google search for Gaffrig dual pyros and look what pops up :eek: Some pictures I don't even have any more.
I couldn't find velocity stacks for this project so I took out a $3K loan and had a 100 done on a CNC. I had most done in red anodized but left some bare aluminum. If you look close at the 1st picture you can see I mixed them up on this motor so they spelled #1 :cool:

http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?34543-HYDROSTREAM-VECTOR-543-LBS-and-Badd-Ass-JohnRude

[Instigator]

The itch is back, now all I need are the Benjamins ;)

[Da Bull]

I got just what you need. Problem is i`m here and your there but the trailer will make the trip.

DB

[1BadAction]

I got just what you need. Problem is i`m here and your there but the trailer will make the trip.

DB
If you guys seriously work something out, I will be headed from Dallas to FL sometime feb-marchish, I drive right through Shreveport on I-20.

[Instigator]

Bobby, Bobby, Bobby..........., your idea of the right bote is a 15' Vee bottom w/no stringers that weighs 180 lbs powered by a bottle fed 2.5.

Mine is an open bow with drink holders ;)

[baja200merk]

Theres a comp vector in the yard I could make an open bow in about 15 mins :D

[Da Bull]

Gater Gater Gater, OK then lets compromise. What i got is a 1985 STV narrow deck pointy nose that is real light. You could be like Laser Ed lol. A tree fell accross the nose and that will have to be fixed. I have to many projects so if you want it i`ll give it to you. Thats right,FREE. Now i have 300 bucks in the leagle trailer that i need back or you could provide your own. Makes me no diff.

DB

[Instigator]

Gater Gater Gater, OK then lets compromise. What i got is a 1985 STV narrow deck pointy nose that is real light. You could be like Laser Ed lol. A tree fell accross the nose and that will have to be fixed. I have to many projects so if you want it i`ll give it to you. Thats right,FREE. Now i have 300 bucks in the leagle trailer that i need back or you could provide your own. Makes me no diff.

DB
Ur killin me Brother!

[Corona Mike]

Hell If You Want One I'll Sell You Your Old Allison Back. It's At Full Throttle Getting The "Ugly" Taken Off Of It...Jack Is Painting The Bottom White, Fixin' All The Dings, Painting Red And Black Stripes On The Wing Tips And Raised Areas On The Deck, And I Have PERFECT Red Bucket Seat Covers And BRAND NEW! Lounge Seats! Decent Gauges, Trick Gas Tank...ETC...In Other Words, Everything It Didn't Have Or Needed Fixin' Will Be Already Done!

[MODVP22]

Ur killin me Brother!

Do it!

[Instigator]

Bobby, thanks so much for the offer but if I bring another race boat home, I will be in the dog house.

Mike, thats why I sold that boat. Couldn't stand it not being perfect and didn't have the time or money at that point.
Will be gorgeous when it's done I'm sure but still not the river boat I need.

Cheryl wants a pontoon and I'm trying to do the open bow thing to pacify her for a while anyhow.

[MODVP22]

Bobby, thanks so much for the offer but if I bring another race boat home, I will be in the dog house.

Mike, thats why I sold that boat. Couldn't stand it not being perfect and didn't have the time or money at that point.
Will be gorgeous when it's done I'm sure but still not the river boat I need.

Cheryl wants a pontoon and I'm trying to do the open bow thing to pacify her for a while anyhow.

this doesn't sound like a race boat at all, more like a closed bow lake cruiser.

Been there on the pontoon-it's the begining of a slippery slope

[Capt.Insane-o]

Tri toon man, 250 hp on the right brand and they roll right along.

[MODVP22]

Tri toon man, 250 hp on the right brand and they roll right along.

see, told ya it was a slipper slope ;)