Manatee zones enforcement in sw fl area....

[XstreamVking]

Sat and Sun the 12th and 13th of nov the fwc and other leo will be stepping up idle speed zone enforcement. Manatee zones will be checked with radar speed detection. This is all bs to protect the manatees, but just be aware that they are going to be there. Prob. the Caloosahatchee river will be the center of the activity. JUST BE ALERT, this is revenue producing season for the local and state enforcement. Fines start at 125.00...... Obviously they will be checking for BWI also, but that's a good thing....

[Mr. Demeanor]

Good thing my boat is too small to be seen by radar.

[euro scott]

when do they slow down ? their out in force EVERY weekend...........

[mirage243]

when do they slow down ? their out in force EVERY weekend...........

Never,............the government always needs your money.

[XstreamVking]

Last time they had an enforcement party, they were pulling over so many boats that they were handing out yellow crime scene tape to put on your boat to show you had already been pulled and safety checked. It was unbelievable......

[CUDA]

Hell I get a ticket once a year , this year I was on the waverunner at 30mph at sun set wanting to get home because it don't have lights , FOOLS . By the time they got done writing the ticket it was REAL dark so I drove 65mph the rest of the way .

[Forkin' Crazy]

Good thing my boat is too small to be seen by radar.

Don't think they won't use a "guesstimate". ;)

[pyro]

How do the poor manatees got the money for the fines?

[XstreamVking]

The crazy thing is, the law states that feeding or touching the manatees is a felony. The save the manatee bunch does feed and i'm sure have contact with the animals. In other words they break the very laws they had put into place. What a bunch of bs artists. They have just began a new area of no motor zones to provide more area for the manatees/kayakers to have for their own use. Power boats are def. on the s... end of the stick around here.... Law enforcement has a new fleet of ever faster and more heavily armed patrol craft every year. This, is where the money goes. We need law enforcement, but it's gotten to be a money factory to make new idle zones and shake down the boaters for any violations that can result in fines. Fines for idle zones can range from 125. to 25000. bucks........

[timmc6]

they dont but the stae does and that makes it better,do like the indians did eat em.

[hydrostream1]

Thank god we don`t have those D$&MN sea cows up here!No speed limits or no wake zones to speak of,4 rivers plus winyah bay to boat in,and you can haul a$$ everywhere.The funny thing is we only have a handful of guys that have speed boats around here,most are slow center console fishing boats or cabin cruisers.

[71V153]

Don't forget FPL customers will be paying to keep Manatee cozy in football field size hot tubs this winter. I got a $93 ticket in '08 trying to beat a thunderstorm from Snake Island to the South Venice ramp. Mind you this is a private ramp that I pay for the priviledge of having a key. FWC guy was waiting at the dock. He didn't even have a boat ...

Naturally about the time he got finished doin' his thing the sky opened up & the boat was still in the water. Gee thanks occifer!

"Protect and Serve" my dimpled butt. "Intimidate and Extort" is more like it?

[Forkin' Crazy]

Teach a coon ass how to clean, cook and eat them, and they will mysteriously disappear! :eek:

[71V153]

Like so?

[timmc6]

You must have indian blood. Lol.

[71V153]

"Sirloin of the Sea" by Jim Clinch:

[Chaz]

My how things have changed .... >

http://mylifeinthefloridakeysandbeyond.blogspot.com/2011/01/cowpens-momentary-haven.html

[71V153]

Last year on Snake Island a Manatee Mom & calf swung by & decided to hang out for awhile. Allowing the kids to pet them, etc. It was really something to see. Kids were having the time of their life, probly remember it forever?

Sadly some wanna be enviro ahole who refused to shut up felt the need to call and report this heinous Manatee molestation. Sheriffs showed up and bullhorned the kids away from the animals. Threatening their parents with arrest!?

Way to leave an impression on the children. Congratulations! Jerk offs ...

[Tom Foley]

The manatee is nothing but a tool being used to amass funding to close our waterways to powerboating . Sad .

[mrcrsr]

we were told they are going to start enforcing the 25 mph speed limit here w/ radar guns, guess i have to put a radar detector in the boat now!

[HStream1]

I don't live in FLA but am trying my best to migrate there. But you guys need to keep a copy of the 4th ammendment with you at all times. When stopped without cause or a mass check is being conducted hand them a copy and tell them they must need a refresher on the Bill of Rights.

Here in North Carolina we will have affective December 1 of this year House Rule 375. Basically it reads.

It shall be unlawful for any law enforcement agency or officer to conduct a checking station or roadblock unless the establishment of a checking station or roadblock is to cordon off an area to locate an offender specifically named in an arrest warrant. Any other person passing through the checking station or roadblock shall not be subject to arrest for any reason except when:

(1) The person has an outstanding warrant for arrest.
(2) The person has committed an implied consent offense and has been warned by a law enforcement officer at a checking station or roadblock not to proceed and the person continues through the checking station in contradiction to the warning."

SECTION 2. This act becomes effective December 1, 2011, and applies to offenses committed on or after that date.

[Tom Foley]

Bud , the FWC is the most powerful of all the police agencies in the state of Florida . The Manatee zones have been implemented , are posted , and you will be ticketed if in violation and safety checked . BTW you can be pulled over and safety checked at ANY time without other reasons , waving the piece of paper will not do you any good , just prolong your day ....

[HStream1]

I believe you Tom if you say so. You live there no me. All I was saying basically is it started to work here in NC. The Bikers basically got the ball rolling by doing the 4th thing. Then enough people all together finally pressed the issue with their representatives and we will soon have a law protecting our 4th ammendment rights.

If a person breaks a law then they get whats coming to them. But to be pulled, stopped without probable cause just isn't right.

But it does seem you guys in FLA (I assume only in certain areas) have a hard road ahead when it comes to the Manatees and posted speeds.

[CUDA]

It would be great if we could do something to stop this , I hardy care to go boating anymore because of the grief.

[Chaz]

For years the rich who live on the water tried to stop the boat traffic . Time after time the cases were thrown out of court . It seems that the water doesnt belong to just the rich , well not yet anyhow.
They found a different angle to work , in essence if they made boater's , high speed boaters .. you know the type , the ones who travel at speeds greater than 25 mph out to be murderers of the sacred cow .. it worked . No judge or represenitive wants to go on record as supporting the slaughter of the sacred cow .. to confuze people with fact and tell them that most sacred cows are crushed by barges on the St. Johns would do just as good as saying the TSA is acting correctly in stopping the guy with the Semper-Fi tattoo while Ackmed and Habeeb walk freely by without much more than a passing glance ...
We have become a nation of idiots who think that the deterioration of our nation will somehow not impact our personal lifes . I feel my blood pressure rising , so I need to let this go ... for now .
I bought one of these , i wore it once , my wife cut it up and put it with the shop rags ... now I dont think we should perposly go out and kill these sacred cows into extinction ... but a little "un" common sense would go a long way ...

http://www.endangeredoutlaw.com/mens-shirts-manatee-zones-c-23_27.html?osCsid=48dcfa3a6728524a134826143e915bad

[timmc6]

Thank for the link on the shirts i,i will order today!

[Forkin' Crazy]

"Sirloin of the Sea" by Jim Clinch:

That's great! :) I liked the other one as well! :D

[Forkin' Crazy]

The manatee is nothing but a tool being used to amass funding to close our waterways to powerboating . Sad .

That is sad. I am so glad they are not up here! Are they still running the power plant just so it will heat the water for these slugs?


Bud , the FWC is the most powerful of all the police agencies in the state of Florida . The Manatee zones have been implemented , are posted , and you will be ticketed if in violation and safety checked . BTW you can be pulled over and safety checked at ANY time without other reasons , waving the piece of paper will not do you any good , just prolong your day ....

They are here too. Don't even need a search warrant. All they have to have is a suspicion. :nonod: And abuse their power they do! :mad:

[71V153]

Perhaps the biggest lie perpetuated is 'speed kills'. They shock the general public with pictures of horrendous Manatee injuries. And, naturally, call for more no wake zones.

They fail to mention, and lucky for them the non-boating public doesn't notice, is that the most mangled Manatee were obviously struck by slow moving boats?

Sorry for the graphic pic but does this sea cow look like it was struck by a fast moving boat?!

[Mr. Demeanor]

My boat draws about 6 inches on plane and 18 inches off plane. Which is more of a threat to the manatee?

[XstreamVking]

I have seen the dead manatees killed by the cold water brought into the boat ramp where they tie them up. (and do they stink). By the time they get reported in the news, the things are cut from one end to the other. Looking like prop marks. But mysteriously they have no skeg marks to go along with the other cuts. Sumptin sneaky def going on here.

[71V153]

My boat draws about 6 inches on plane and 18 inches off plane. Which is more of a threat to the manatee?In your particular case we think 12" would be best ... Why would you wanna put your boat on a airplane anyway?

[71V153]

I have seen the dead manatees killed by the cold water brought into the boat ramp where they tie them up. (and do they stink). By the time they get reported in the news, the things are cut from one end to the other. Looking like prop marks. But mysteriously they have no skeg marks to go along with the other cuts. Sumptin sneaky def going on here.Yup! Probly seen a hundred pics of Manatee with prop scars. Never a skeg.

According to their benefactors the Manatee is a cousin of the Elephant. Who we all know never forgets. They also like to say Manatee have keen eyesight & hearing and posess the intelligence of a Dolphin. Hmm.

Fwiw the Dolphin I've spoken with recently are extremely offended by this generalization ...

[Forkin' Crazy]

How do the poor manatees got the money for the fines?

I think the poor manatee have more intelligence in two brain cells then was used in the previous post. WTF? :o

[Forkin' Crazy]

I was flipping through the channels this morning. Landed on a kids show when something that looked like a manatee came into view. They start on our kids early. The whole kids' show was about manatee rehabilitation and to be released into the wild after they recovered from being hit by an evil boat. ;) With a power plant in the back ground no less. :o

[Mark Poole ModVP]

The manatee in the pic on post 29 was struck by the prop of a large commercial vessel. The fuel barges that run up and down the St. Johns and other florida rivers probably hurt and kill more manatees than anything else. But, try convincing a bunch of enviro extremeists that those slashes did not come from a standard size outboard prop.

[Cavit8]

For years the rich who live on the water tried to stop the boat traffic . Time after time the cases were thrown out of court . It seems that the water doesnt belong to just the rich , well not yet anyhow.
They found a different angle to work , in essence if they made boater's , high speed boaters .. you know the type , the ones who travel at speeds greater than 25 mph out to be murderers of the sacred cow .. it worked . No judge or represenitive wants to go on record as supporting the slaughter of the sacred cow .. to confuze people with fact and tell them that most sacred cows are crushed by barges on the St. Johns would do just as good as saying the TSA is acting correctly in stopping the guy with the Semper-Fi tattoo while Ackmed and Habeeb walk freely by without much more than a passing glance ...
We have become a nation of idiots who think that the deterioration of our nation will somehow not impact our personal lifes . I feel my blood pressure rising , so I need to let this go ... for now .
I bought one of these , i wore it once , my wife cut it up and put it with the shop rags ... now I dont think we should perposly go out and kill these sacred cows into extinction ... but a little "un" common sense would go a long way ...

http://www.endangeredoutlaw.com/mens-shirts-manatee-zones-c-23_27.html?osCsid=48dcfa3a6728524a134826143e915bad

This is the actual truth. If saving the manatee was the real intent they would outlaw cold weather and red tide.

[BUSHWACKER]

This is the actual truth. If saving the manatee was the real intent they would outlaw cold weather and red tide.

I'm sure they will thank you for the 2 new rules they will have passed by lunch time, then take off til after New Years to rest up! :D

[Cavit8]

I'm sure they will thank you for the 2 new rules they will have passed by lunch time, then take off til after New Years to rest up! :D
Sad, but probably true.

[bretter]

Cullen, its not evading if you don't look back. Plus we can run a lot skinnier than they can! ;)

[XstreamVking]

Brett, even your LCB can't out run the plane and the motorola...... I just obey the rules and hope they get bored with all the compliant boaters and go some place to hassle other boaters.... It is getting harder all the time, just staying out of the laws way. New radar guns to check for 25 mph in the channel? Their really getting desperate to write tickets now.....Will your boat go as slow as 25mph and stay on plane?

[Eggsuckindog]

The radar guns were a gift from Save The Mantee Club - big hoopla a few years ago

[Li'l Toy]

Chaz said what I was going to say as I read this thread. At least on the east coast of Florida, it isn't first and foremost a revenue thing. It is an excuse for wealthy waterfront folks, often condo commandos, to slow down those big, noisy boats they don't want around.

It is hilarious to head up the North Fork of the St. Lucie River. It is an almost completely wild, full of oxbows, beautiful old Florida river that runs right through the town of Port St. Lucie. But there are one or two place s where a housing community touches on the river, or there is a condo or apartment house. Sure enough, those are the Manatee zones. Go figure--I guess the manatees are attracted to the docks?

[71V153]

I would never wish ill will on an any animal. Even a Manatee. But 'protecting' them has gotten a lil outa hand?

FPL aka Florida Plunder & Loot charges customers to keep this invasive species warm'n cozy in football field size hot tubs. Replete with 'viewing stations', read: bleachers. So's they can indoctrinate the uninformed tourista.

[oldskier]

I would never wish ill will on an any animal. Even a Manatee. But 'protecting' them has gotten a lil outa hand?

FPL aka Florida Plunder & Loot charges customers to keep this invasive species warm'n cozy in football field size hot tubs. Replete with 'viewing stations', read: bleachers. So's they can indoctrinate the uninformed tourista.

Doug, When I was still down there we were told manatees (we called 'em sea cows back in the day) were imported because they eat the water hyacinth that was clogging up the canals in Port Charlotte. Oh well, maybe the Burmese Pythons will start feeding on 'em....

[Forkin' Crazy]

Doug, When I was still down there we were told manatees (we called 'em sea cows back in the day) were imported because they eat the water hyacinth that was clogging up the canals in Port Charlotte. Oh well, maybe the Burmese Pythons will start feeding on 'em....

They are in the Caribbean too. I heard they were brought by the first settlers/traders from the Indian Ocean for a food source. Looking it up what we have is the "West Indian Manatee".

And then this:
Swimming
On average, manatees swim at about 5 to 8 kilometres per hour (3.1 to 5.0 mph). However, they have been known to swim at up to 30 kilometres per hour (19 mph) in short bursts.

Intelligence
Manatees are capable of understanding discrimination tasks, and show signs of complex associated learning and advanced long term memory.[6] They demonstrate complex discrimination and task-learning similar to dolphins and pinnipeds in acoustic and visual studies.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manatee

Seems they would be smart enough to know to get out of the way?

[XstreamVking]

I grew up in sw fla. when I was a kid we never saw a manatee. (1960s) as the years went by we started seeing more and more of them(1970s-80s))The power plants have changed the migratory pattern they had. Now they don't migrate at all, they just go to the power plants in the winter and out to the bays and gulf in the summer. Now, they are eating all the sea grass and their population is out of proportion to the food supply. In the winter at the power plant, there is no food, so manatee huggers feed them. Breaking their own laws, further perpetuating the misery of these animals. If they would shut dn the warm water and not feed them, they would go back to the natural migration they had before mans (or should I say womans) interruption of the natural cycle. The large population spreads any sickness that one animal may get to the others. I say they are being loved to death......

[bretter]

Brett, even your LCB can't out run the plane and the motorola...... I just obey the rules and hope they get bored with all the compliant boaters and go some place to hassle other boaters.... It is getting harder all the time, just staying out of the laws way. New radar guns to check for 25 mph in the channel? Their really getting desperate to write tickets now.....Will your boat go as slow as 25mph and stay on plane?

sure it will. just draws more water like mr d said

[rankink]

Swimming On average, manatees swim at about 5 to 8 kilometres per hour (3.1 to 5.0 mph). However, they have been known to swim at up to 30 kilometres per hour (19 mph) in short bursts.

I can attest to the short bursts of speed. I have come upon them while running at high speed near a flat in the Florida Bay, and they have launched themselves out of the way very quickly. They can move very fast when they want to.

[71V153]

Doug, When I was still down there we were told manatees (we called 'em sea cows back in the day) were imported because they eat the water hyacinth that was clogging up the canals in Port Charlotte. Oh well, maybe the Burmese Pythons will start feeding on 'em....One can only hope so ... Yo Bernie! How's it hangin'? First time I seen a sea cow was in Miami circa '68. Remember thinking what the heck is that!? Call it harsh but personally I'd like to see the Boca Grande Iguana method applied? Heh heh heh

I dunno but I doubt any good can come from the current situation. Which is only getting worse. We're fed lie upon lie about actual #s of Manatee, etc. Not a single one killed by a boat in Sarasota county last year btw yet we're rewarded with 6 more mi of "Manatee Zone"? Wtf!?

Granted the Manatee is just a poor dumb animal that likes warm water. (So am I ...) Our bad I s'pose for artificially warming the water it migrates through thereby encouraging it to stick around.

Not an Engineer but guess I just don't understand why the hot water runoff couldn't/shouldn't be cooled to within a couple degrees of the water it's emptied back into? Plumb some of that hot water to keep the 50 mil Americans living in poverty warm perhaps? Oh well maybe the Manatee will share their FPL customer powered hot tubs with the homeless this winter ...

[XstreamVking]

In Lee co. our local power plant spent upwards of 600,000 bucks to provide the sea cows with warm water. The plant was not planned to have a warm water discharge, and the manatee huggers went to court to restore it. So now they can have a warm winter home with empty food shelves. So, now they feed them romaine lettuce and such. These manatee are the water going version of a welfare recipient..And the manatee huggers are like the obama administration....If these animals went back to a normal life, there would be no need for slow zones, and no more easy revenue collected. Manatee huggers would have to find another animal to love to death....

[bretter]

Do they have any natural predators? ;) It would be a shame if my pet killer whale got loose and ate them all.....

[Forkin' Crazy]

These manatee are the water going version of a welfare recipient..And the manatee huggers are like the obama administration....If these animals went back to a normal life, there would be no need for slow zones, and no more easy revenue collected. Manatee huggers would have to find another animal to love to death....

No doubt in my mind they are liberal Democrats.

[DavidW]

I live right on the bay here in Key largo and always have been in this same area. I have been around these animals all my life. I do like them but I agree that they are being used for an excuse to make more rules and hand out more fines. I do see many, many more these days than I did as a child in the same area. I have had fast boats all my life and considering how many there are in my area I have had pretty much no contact with them and never hit them with a fast boat. They tend to stay very close to the shoreline when they venture into the more heavy boat traffic areas. And when they here boats coming into the area they hug the shoreline even tighter. They do a pretty good job of avoiding boats contrary to what the manatee huggers would have us believe. I wonder how many of the ones they find dead with prop marks got them after they died, probably most of them. I really think it is rediculous to be heating pools for them and feeding them. It isn't even good for their survival like that. Kind of screws up the way natural selection is supposed keep their genepool strong...

[XstreamVking]

Bret, there have been orca sighted in the gulf quite a ways offshore over the last few years.... They prob would love a little manatee tail now and then... Forkin, the people that spearhead the manatee cause are mostly well educated, well funded women with no job and lots of time on their hands. And I think that makes them liberal democrats in every way... DavidW, your rite on all counts.....

[rankink]

I live right on the bay here in Key largo and always have been in this same area. I have been around these animals all my life. I do like them but I agree that they are being used for an excuse to make more rules and hand out more fines. I do see many, many more these days than I did as a child in the same area. I have had fast boats all my life and considering how many there are in my area I have had pretty much no contact with them and never hit them with a fast boat. They tend to stay very close to the shoreline when they venture into the more heavy boat traffic areas. And when they here boats coming into the area they hug the shoreline even tighter. They do a pretty good job of avoiding boats contrary to what the manatee huggers would have us believe. I wonder how many of the ones they find dead with prop marks got them after they died, probably most of them. I really think it is rediculous to be heating pools for them and feeding them. It isn't even good for their survival like that. Kind of screws up the way natural selection is supposed keep their genepool strong...



House on the bay around MM88 my whole life. Maybe seen a gradual increase since i was a child (36 yo), but in the Keys it seems they know how to stay out of the way. As you said, they hug the coast, mangroves and flats pretty well and hide out in canals a lot during the day. Definitely a scapegoat for the environmentalists and PETA types. Luckily, we do not have it as bad in the keys regarding zones as other places in FL.

[DavidW]

House on the bay around MM88 my whole life. Maybe seen a gradual increase since i was a child (36 yo), but in the Keys it seems they know how to stay out of the way. As you said, they hug the coast, mangroves and flats pretty well and hide out in canals a lot during the day. Definitely a scapegoat for the environmentalists and PETA types. Luckily, we do not have it as bad in the keys regarding zones as other places in FL.

I fear that the manatee zones are coming though. They are talking again about keeping boaters off the local sanbars because it kills seagrass?? It's like they want to stop power boating altogether. I don't think the tourist industry can survive off of kayakers alone.

[rankink]

I fear that the manatee zones are coming though. They are talking again about keeping boaters off the local sanbars because it kills seagrass?? It's like they want to stop power boating altogether. I don't think the tourist industry can survive off of kayakers alone.


They have been talking about the holiday isle sandbar for years now, and closing the everglades, and many other stupid recommendations. Of course, we have to fight them at every turn though. I think the Keys often forgets that its whole economy is built around tourists, and lots of those tourists have boats. Because, without a boat and access to the water in most of the keys there is not much else to do. Boats use gas, boaters stay at hotels, boaters go to restaurants and bars, etc.

Also, in the Keys we have a much wider open area rather than rivers and such that would corral the manatees more.

[XstreamVking]

We fought them in sw fl and only managed to delay the enevitable. The federal people came to our local meetings and faked listening to our concerns. They were just playing us, while we talked about it hurting our local economy, they just drew doodles on some scrap paper and blew us off. It was obvious that it was decided before any public imput was allowed what the outcome would be......I wish I could offer some encouragement to fight em, but have seen it firsthand..... Manatee huggers have the feds in their corner..It's all about control of boaters and revenue..

[oldskier]

One can only hope so ... Yo Bernie! How's it hangin'? First time I seen a sea cow was in Miami circa '68. Remember thinking what the heck is that!? Call it harsh but personally I'd like to see the Boca Grande Iguana method applied? Heh heh heh
...

Well that might be alright for iguana's, you can put 'em in a garbage bag. You would need a bigger bag for the sea cows....I really wanted to apply for the iguana exterminator job in Boca Grande...I wonder if they payed by the hour or by the head?

[71V153]

Well that might be alright for iguana's, you can put 'em in a garbage bag. You would need a bigger bag for the sea cows....I really wanted to apply for the iguana exterminator job in Boca Grande...I wonder if they payed by the hour or by the head?Think it was $25 bucks a head plus a few other perks. Believe 3 guys were hired. Bet it was easy money in the beginning as those nasty friggin lizards were everywhere. Ya I wanted the job too. Got the perfect rifle, my 17HMR can neuter a gnat.

Tell ya a funny story. During the height of the eradication one ran across the road and I schmushed him. Only one I ever hit. Didn't mean to ... Made a quick delivery around the corner. Turned to head back & somebody'd already scooped up the carcass?!

[71V153]

The powers that be have spoken. Manatee are more important than humans.

In their defense the power companies and FWC have been browbeaten & sued into submission by EcoCelebs. At this point they're just following orders ...

Read the marine mammal protection act and see if you can spot the blatant violations the save the Manatee club is guilty of?

[71V153]

16 USC Sec. 1362 (18) (B) (ii)

Harassment:

Any act that disturbs or is likely to disturb a marine mammal in the wild by causing disruption of natural behavioral patterns, including, but not limited to, migration, surfacing, nursing, breeding, feeding, or sheltering, to a point where such behaviors are abandoned or significantly altered.

I judge the save the Manatee club guilty ...?

[XstreamVking]

Florida bay/Biscane bay and the everglades national park are the next target areas. I am getting e-mails about the fight that is brewing. When you see liberal lefty kayakers using an area, you can be sure that some form of power boat regulation petition is coming. And I am seeing a lot of yaks in the everglades lately. The facts pointed out in the prev. post are the very reason the manatee should be left alone....But the women that run these manatee orgs are above the law. And will not be charged with any crime. Law enforcement cheerfully enforces the laws on power boaters. Turns a blind eye to all others.

[bretter]

246752

[71V153]

246752Ha! Yup got that one in my collection.

Hear ya XV. Kayaks are a bad omen. Seem to be more & more of them launching from our private ramp. Illegally btw. Why join the Civic Association and pay for a ramp key when you can sneak your kayak under the chain?

Few weeks ago I was hosing the Baja off at our little rinse down station when I heard some kayakers approaching the ramp. Hadn't locked the chain yet so went back to do so. Guy in front said "it's okay we're coming out".(Whatever that means?) Innocently inquired if anyone in the group had a ramp key and was met with angry stares. So I locked the chain and went back to rinsing the boat. Then hooked up the muffs & ran the motor 'til convinced it was thoroughly flushed.

As you might imagine there was a fair amount of grumbling amongst the freeloaders. Nothing audible naturally, mainly body language and evil eyes. Screw those aholes!

[Chaz]

Guy in front said "it's okay we're coming out".(Whatever that means?)

I wondered what he ment too , so I looked it up !
I always though that about those people ... now I know :D .....>

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coming+out

[Robby321]

they dont but the stae does and that makes it better,do like the indians did eat em.

YEP! We here the PNW, have zero problem, but the beaches, clam digging, more etc, regulated. Have a DNR, fly over me, any low tide...low and slow, hugging shorelines. Better whip that "yellow tag", off the neck, and show it, "digging" . On the "salmon fishing?. We need "barb less" hooks..(only one hook, not a 3 prong either"), but the Indian tribes? Sweep the silly into big drag nets , and our annual "Fall, Salmon Bake here"" We get the Salmon, from them. Drop off 200 pounds fresh fish, gutted, we just "Fillet", them, to the grill. Buck a pound too.

Need I say here......."location, location, location"? I got many friends FL, old GF whats me to move to Ft Myers..."no thanks", me..I take the PNW...rural, private HOA, lake front...( ya do a "911" call here"..wait 4 hours, a cop might show up......cities and rules, simple suck........heres a pic, last "Salmon Bake.."..(party behind me.. the shelter)
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[Forkin' Crazy]

Flipping through the channels this morning and guess what I landed on? Another save the damn manatee children's show. SOS, they had picked up injured manatee from boat propellers and suffering from hypothermia. All of the rehab workers they showed were women. And not that good looking either. I guess ugly women have to have a purpose too! :rolleyes:

[71V153]

Flipping through the channels this morning and guess what I landed on? Another save the damn manatee children's show. SOS, they had picked up injured manatee from boat propellers and suffering from hypothermia. All of the rehab workers they showed were women. And not that good looking either. I guess ugly women have to have a purpose too! :rolleyes: That's so the injured Manatee thinks it's amongst friends ...

[bretter]

i could take him

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[Tom Foley]

ha! Yup got that one in my collection.

Hear ya xv. Kayaks are a bad omen. Seem to be more & more of them launching from our private ramp. Illegally btw. Why join the civic association and pay for a ramp key when you can sneak your kayak under the chain?

Few weeks ago i was hosing the baja off at our little rinse down station when i heard some kayakers approaching the ramp. Hadn't locked the chain yet so went back to do so. Guy in front said "it's okay we're coming out".(whatever that means?) innocently inquired if anyone in the group had a ramp key and was met with angry stares. So i locked the chain and went back to rinsing the boat. Then hooked up the muffs & ran the motor 'til convinced it was thoroughly flushed.

As you might imagine there was a fair amount of grumbling amongst the freeloaders. Nothing audible naturally, mainly body language and evil eyes. Screw those aholes!
awesome !

[71V153]

Thanks Tom. Y'know imo these dang kayakers are worse than any blow boater. They looked at me with genuine confusion as I locked the chain? "Why is he being such a big meanie?" Screw em! Call me selfish but I'll be damned if I'm gonna let those aholes abuse my priviledge. That's my job!

Fyi if you get to the ramp and there's an FJ Cruiser wearing antlers & a red nose with kayak racks on top & stick family stickers on the back window? Brace yourself ...