This One REALLY Hacks Me Off

[mirage243]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/08/chicago-district-attorney-recording-bad-cops_n_872921.html

Ok, you Oinker lovers, defend this one.

[M. HARDEE]

glorified pricks-----it don't get no lower ---- slime wearing a badge ---

[Lockjaw]

I don't think the staunchest supporter of law enforcement would try to defend that officers behavior, or the internal affairs division.

However I will say the officer in question was a dummy for being alone with a woman not his wife in a bedroom without a witness.

[vnemous]

I went on a domestic once. The husband had beat the hell out of his wife and she wanted him out. When I got there they were still at it. I dragged the husband away from her and started cuffing him up, when she saw that she flipped out and tried to stab me with a kitchen knife so Im a little sceptical. I agree, if you can avoid it never be alone with a female.

[Fish]

just for fun, i will give it a shot since there are no other takers. :) in IL it is a felony to record someone without their consent. she recorded the IA officers without their consent, she committed a felony.

here is another possible scenario: cops get called, arrest boyfriend, victim does not want to cooperate, says nothing happened but he was arrested anyway (its domestic, that's gonna happen). when he bonds out the next morning they go on the offensive and accuse the cop of sexual assault... there is a high profile case like that on the news according to the article, wonder where they got the idea? IA may have given her the run around, or maybe they thought she was full of S*&^, idk, but bottom line is Tiawanda comitted a felony- she did not record the officer at the scene to preserve evidence of the alleged assault, she recorded other officers the next day who had nothing to do with the domestic battery investigation, they were just listening to her story.

BTW, her version is being reported by her attorney... wanna bet he has a law suit against the Police over this and Tiawanda, her boyfriend and bottom feeding attorney are all planning on gettin Paid!

and no, i am not a cop, just taking you up on the challenge for a little fun. :)

[HStream1]

I'm in no way defending the Cops. But I have a few questions in general.

(1) Where is the officers number that was supposedly slipped to her? Had to be on a piece of paper or something. This piece of evidence would help to substanciate her claims against the officer. Without it ?????

(2) Why was she arrested after the fact, later that afternoon? (recording the IA officer). Why not on the spot? Or why wasn't she informed by the IA officer at the time it was illegal to record without concent? she had to indicate some how she had activated her phone's recorder.

(3) Why isn't the IA officer not being repremanded for not taking the report regardless of what he thought of her claim? It's his responsibility to at least accept the complaint report.

(4) Why didn't she yell out when the officer alledgedly assulted her in the bedroom?

As far as why didn't she record the officer at the actual scene. Maybe she didn't have access to her phone at that exact time.

Finally. Is the (recording without concent) law in question here public knowledge? Was it posted anywhere in the building that recording/recording devices were illegal?

[Fish]

bud, each state has their own laws but i am guessing every state has some form of the law. it stems from not being able to record a conversation over the phone without someones consent/knowledge but is not limited to phones. If there is some expectation of privacy, then it is illegal to record someone without their consent and it does not have to be posted; posting just makes a person aware they are being recorded and is an argument that they consented since they were aware. As for the later arrest, she did not report it until the next day. that is when she recorded the IA conversation, and i am guessing that is when she was arrested. as far as the rest, i dont know, good questions tho. Someone's lying and i'm not sure whats worse; a girl that will lie and accuse someone of sexual assault or a lying cop... but both are scary as hell.

[HStream1]

I understand that each state has their own recording without concent laws. Most all state laws simply state that no recordings can be admitted into evidence without prior concent. Also as stated in the article the law in question is decades old and was written around wire tap laws and before cell phones with cameras and recording capabilities etc. were avaliable.

This statement leads me to believe she was arrested after the fact.

"Ten months later, Chicago PD is still investigating the incident. Moore, on the other hand, was arrested the very same afternoon."

Admitted it's kind of vaigue in statement, but leads me to believe she was arrested after the recording incident. Not at the time.

[Lockjaw]

That sounds like a law a dirty politician supported to keep people from getting the goods on him if you ask me. Weren't the police recording her?

[mirage243]

That sounds like a law a dirty politician supported to keep people from getting the goods on him if you ask me. Weren't the police recording her?

I'm sure they were, but that's different....................we are the POLICE, we do what we want.

Nazi M Fer's.

[Lockjaw]

I think this example has 2 problems. For starters, I think people involved in domestic violence probably have shakey credibility in the first place. Second, if you are going to make a complaint about the Po Po, why not lawyer up? You have to make a choice going in, if the internal affairs department gives you a hard time, then you need to say, I think I need to go for now, and go hire an attorney.

The other thing we don't know in this case is how many time the po po has been to this couples house for domestic violence issues. We don't know their criminal history. All those things play a part.

[HStream1]

I think it goes deeper than that. Even if she was being recorded it is a double standard unless the statue (law) has a written clause that this (non concent recording) law doesn't apply to law enforcement. Which I'm sure it doesn't because it was written around wire tapping laws.

The other side of the coin is her name is (Tiawanda). Wonder what ethnetic group she is from? Also what if they didn't/don't have the means to Lawyer Up???

And as we all know it cost money to even get a case into court let alone hire a Lawyer. And a court appointed attorney ?????? Well thats like buying the Brooklin Bridge for one dollar.

But if you read the article completely they do have a lawyer.

Copy and pasted from the article:

Robert Johnson, Moore's attorney, says that when Moore and her boyfriend attempted to report the incident to internal affairs officials at the Chicago Police Department, the couple wasn't greeted warmly. "They discouraged her from filing a report," Johnson says. "They gave her the runaround, scared her, and tried to intimidate her from reporting this officer -- from making sure he couldn't go on to do this to other women."

[Lockjaw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rtwb34Pd1k&feature=related

This is for you all.