Hydrulic Steering Tubing

[Jho928]

Hi All, Down the road a piece I'll be installing Hydraulic Steering in a Vantage.
I also have some .068" 1/2" SS Tube lyeing around. Can I run the tube from the helm to
my splashwell then short hoses to the cylinder. i would figure this is a good way to go to minimize hose flex and also save some coin on buying long hoses. Is the size of the tube good? Whata ya think? Thanks Jim

[XstreamVking]

I would call the mfg. on this one... I really can not think of any reason why not tho. 1/2" i.d. should flow plenty of fluid....And cut dn. on expansion. I have ran 3/8" copper tube for lo-performance boats, sail boats etc....For Hynautic brand steering. But... I think I have seen where teleflex does not want you to use tubing. But they also sell a lot of kevlar hoses, 1500 psi hi-performance type....

[Bruster]

I'm thinking it could cost you more to buy 4 short hoses and the fittings you need to connect the hose to the tube than just buy 2 hoses the correct length.
If you have time watch eBay for a deal.
But...
If the tubing is rated for the pressure and the proper tube to hose fittings are used and it was properly supported, it would function fine.


Hi All, Down the road a piece I'll be installing Hydraulic Steering in a Vantage.
I also have some .068" 1/2" SS Tube lyeing around. Can I run the tube from the helm to
my splashwell then short hoses to the cylinder. i would figure this is a good way to go to minimize hose flex and also save some coin on buying long hoses. Is the size of the tube good? Whata ya think? Thanks Jim

[xsflight]

TELEFLEX told me to use 1/2" tubing for my application. I used a TELEFLEX variable manual pump HH-5275, coupled to a ZEIGER tilt helm with an ISOTTA ZULAG wheel up front. Used the 1/2" copper tubing from the pump to fittings I epoxied into the deck then the 18" conversion hoses to the 6345 cylinder. Did what the manufacturer said. You'l need pipe x 1/2" flare fittings at the pump and bulkhead connections, then conversion fittings to the hoses. I used another set of the supplied cylinder 90* fittings to go from hoses to the deck fittings I had previously installed. It's a sweet method.

[Bruster]

Hard to believe Teleflex suggested to use copper fittings in a hydraulic application. Apples and acorns.


TELEFLEX told me to use 1/2" tubing for my application. I used a TELEFLEX variable manual pump HH-5275, coupled to a ZEIGER tilt helm with an ISOTTA ZULAG wheel up front. Used the 1/2" copper tubing to fittings I epoxied into the deck then the 18" conversion hoses to the 6345 cylinder. Did what the manufacturer said.

[xsflight]

Never used copper fittings, used the tubing, hoses and brass fittings TELEFLEX supplied!

[Jho928]

Thanks for the replies...I would think copper tube would be too soft for hydraulics, but I could be wrong. The tube I have is SS .068" wall thickness, it is like pipe I think it would handle the pressure easily. I could probably make the bends to the helm and only need two short hoses, especially because the deck is off the boat now. I think flareing this tube would be difficult and I wonder if a swagelock type compression fitting could be used? I could run the tube before I put the deck back on. Since I have the tube I thought It could be a option, but It may be easier to run hoses. Jim

[Jho928]

Thanks for the replies...I would think copper tube would be too soft for hydraulics, but I could be wrong. The tube I have is SS .068" wall thickness, it is like pipe I think it would handle the pressure easily. I could probably make the bends to the helm and only need two short hoses, especially because the deck is off the boat now. I think flareing this tube would be difficult and I wonder if a swagelock type compression fitting could be used? I could run the tube before I put the deck back on. Since I have the tube I thought It could be a option, but It may be easier to run hoses. Jim

[xsflight]

It is a copper service tubing with 1000# working pressure rating, comes in 25' coils, used all the time in workboats, commercial and multiple helm applications. My pump output is 2.7-5.4 cu in/turn because I wanted close ratio steering in the range of 3 turns lock to lock. Most manual systems are 5-6 turns and will spec hoses.

[XstreamVking]

Teleflex offers the pro helm 2.0 c.i., a set of kevlar hoses with the bulkhead fittings and alum cover plate and a 6345 cylinder. This is the best set-up that I have seen. Very simple and no slop when bled properly..Mine runs 90 or so and it works great...It is on my boat here..... http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...cs.&highlight= (http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?222479-V-King-got-it-runnin-and-looking-good.-Heres-some-pics.&highlight=)

[Bruster]

Your boat looks great! The steering system installed the way you have it is simple, safe and reliable. Done! Nothing like hydraulic steering.


Teleflex offers the pro helm 2.0 c.i., a set of kevlar hoses with the bulkhead fittings and alum cover plate and a 6345 cylinder. This is the best set-up that I have seen. Very simple and no slop when bled properly..Mine runs 90 or so and it works great...It is on my boat here..... http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...cs.&highlight= (http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?222479-V-King-got-it-runnin-and-looking-good.-Heres-some-pics.&highlight=)

[XstreamVking]

Thanks Bruster, It took a long time and a lot of work to get it where it is.... Be contacting you soon for some solid mts. Put a 3 liter EFI on it to see how the boat likes it. It works good... But it needs a re-build and re-paint with a set of your cool mounts installed to look as good as the boat...