1st time the Action in the water ..

[1fastg3]

214431Well Its Been Over a year And Just got the Action in the water the Night Before... Was a 10 min run.... But I Broke it in today ..... Motor Ran Great But I think it Is to high On the jack plate?? I dont know ... I got it up to 68mph with A lot More To go .. Maybe I can Get 90MHP out of it In the Next few weeks ...

The lower unit Flaked off ? Dont know If something Hit it or what ...

214432Just a few Pic will get more ..214433

[afr]

least the boat looks good
who did the lower unit

[1fastg3]

214434I did the lower Unit ... It was Kinda Soft where It flaked off so I must Have messed up something...
I tried to call you today .... I think the Motor Is to hight ... The leaning thing is fixed.. Just a little trim .. But it Jumps up and down at 60 on the dot ??
MotoR to high ? If you power throw it You hit 72mph and I back out of it ,,, To nervis ..

[Keys Boy]

Hey the boat looks good and should run real well. How high are you running your motor?

[1fastg3]

I dont know ... Let get Pics reall fast for you ... If the jack plate Is all the way down and A little trim she wants to runn hard ... But just bumping the jack plate a little up and It starts to Jump at 60 mph on the dot ..

[1fastg3]

214438214437214436maybe this will help ?

[afr]

billy i forgot more then i knew on setting these up i would have to have some help myself
let on of these boys dial it in for ya
i would put the shaft a inch below at full down level the hull and shaft before you measure and work it from there

oh im on a moible job all day for the next few days
so you can only get me during the early morning and late afternoon

[jtaj77]

I'm in the process of redoing a lower too. Mine was cracking at the seam. Mine has the stock water inlets welded up. What type of filler did you use?

[Gorilla0178]

Congrats on getting the boat in the water, keep us posted on how it does

[Keys Boy]

to give you an idea. I run my 18 action with a bob lwp 1 1/2 above the outside of the pad. no matter what prop it always runs real well there. hope this help. Jimmy

[Da Bull]

Looks like water pressure from inside blew that piece out.

[1fastg3]

I used the Bob's S$IT and Bondo ... The cone is welded on .. I just dont have $500 to ship it to Bob's Or Mr Scott ...
I am going to be looking for a CLE or Sportsmaster soon ....

Gorilla ....When is that action going to be done ?


Action Dave has to Get his A$$ Over here and help me out

[jtaj77]

Bob's told me to use the tiger hair type filler.

[1fastg3]

yea That what It was .. Fiberglass Filler ??? ( It blew Out in front of the water jackets )

It maybe 1 1/2 above the pad .. But I am going to Lower the bolt on the motor And try again ...

Who would have thought these action Turned that good 10 mph sharp turn and given you the real change back

[afr]

billy you can bring it over on saturday ill be there and 1 bad is pose to be over
we can fix that lower right quick like and run it in the harbour to set it up

[transomstand]

Polyester filler over epoxy will come off

[Corona Mike]

Looks like water pressure from inside blew that piece out.

What Da Bull Said. Unless you have the stock water inlets welded up, you won't have much luck with anything you try. You can try threading and installing set screws for a temp. fix it then use epoxy over them but, thats just a temp. fix. You have the rite idea looking for a sportmaster.:thumbsup:

[daytrader]

This worked for me but I wont guarantee it. Fill the inlets backup with epoxy , then when it dries drill a small pressure "relief" hole thru the epoxy, it lets some water pressure out and shoulndt blow the side out any more. Still had good PSI on the gauge.

[1fastg3]

AFR ... 1 bad And your Guy will be there to ? I dont know If I can get over there Yet ,, I have to see How much paper I have on Friday ..

[baja200merk]

Boat looks good, my action would try its hardest to chuck you out of it at 50-60 when the motor was too low. If the prop shaft centerline was any less then 1in above the boat was a mess. 1.5 above is where it came alive but higher i went the better it handled till i lost water pressure just under 2in above. I could go 95+ with my hands behind my head but not many people liked seeing that :leaving: :D

[1fastg3]

Boat looks good, my action would try its hardest to chuck you out of it at 50-60 when the motor was too low. If the prop shaft centerline was any less then 1in above the boat was a mess. 1.5 above is where it came alive but higher i went the better it handled till i lost water pressure just under 2in above. I could go 95+ with my hands behind my head but not many people liked seeing that :leaving: :D
So when It dances side to side ...Do what ? Good up with the jack plate or trim ?

[Gorilla0178]

Gorilla ....When is that action going to be done ?


Soon i hope, I have the cushions being worked on right now. I'm hoping to get the boat home soon so i can work on it more. I've been real busy at the shop so I havent had much time to work on it. It just needs the interior finished and rigged. I'm hoping to get the motor and the jack plate painted soon.

[rchevelle71]

So when It dances side to side ...Do what ? Good up with the jack plate or trim ?

Are you talking about chine walking?? If so, give it more throttle, and drive thru it, even my 24 pantera does that, problem is, I dont have any throttle left to drive out of it with my little 250:D

[ridgerunner]

I know the answer but I am not a driver. Drive her, small inputs on the wheel opposite the direction she wants to lean. You ever seen Beef drive his? Baja too, Up on the wheel and working it. Go about it with respect for the great unknown and it will come to you. Setup may help that a bit too. I never spent enough time behind the wheel to get good at it, but the Stream could be driven past the chine walk with a little more throttle and steering.

[afr]

you just cant drive below 65 70 or so and you need to stab it out each time till you get it leveled out
they are a speed boat not a cruiser
thats about all remember i myself never had a hydraulic jack on mine thats why i said set it one inch below for your lowest point then raise it till you loose water pressure

[Action Dave]

That boat should handle just fine at cruising speeds. If it's porpoising at slower speeds, you might have too much trim. My boat never rides poorly at any speed. As for the chine walk, it's gonna want to fall off the pad when you get it going fast enough. The only way to get through the chine walk is direct driver input on the steering. You have to bump the wheel in the opposite direction that the boat is falling. If it's a side steer, it will want to fall to the right. you have to bump it slightly to the left to keep it balanced.

[baja200merk]

:iagree: My action never hopped or anything at any speed on plane. also if your not an experienced pad V driver messing with that hyd plate while your driving is not gonna help you learn. The boat will handle/drive different at each engine height set it on the trailer and go get some seat time! :thumbsup:

[Action Dave]

:iagree: My action never hopped or anything at any speed on plane. also if your not an experienced pad V driver messing with that hyd plate while your driving is not gonna help you learn. The boat will handle/drive different at each engine height set it on the trailer and go get some seat time! :thumbsup:


Couldn't agree more. Sometimes the worst thing to put on a boat is a hydrualic plate. You really have to leave it at one setting and see what it does. Then make adjustments from there. I don't remember the last time I changed the height on my manual plate.

[baja200merk]

Couldn't agree more. Sometimes the worst thing to put on a boat is a hydrualic plate. You really have to leave it at one setting and see what it does. Then make adjustments from there. I don't remember the last time I changed the height on my manual plate.

yup once i found the sweet spot thats where it stayed and i could pull skiers/wake boarders up with my 30 chopper II. :cheers:

[1fastg3]

When I trim It to level the Boat run ok But Bump the Trim just a little more .. It jumps out of the water and throws you side to side ... I tried to power throw it and It felt likethe boat wanted to flip back...

Action Dave Come Over and Show Me how to drive this Boat ... It has a Lot More power Just do want to flip or roll the boat .. I have my Life jacket and Kill switch But I cant dump $4,000 on something I F up and roll it ..

[1BadAction]

It sounds like the boat is popping onto the pad like they do, you just aren't used to that feeling so you're not sure if it's running right. Best thing to do is have one of the SE FL guys show you the ropes. I was going to offer to meet until I realized you were 150 miles south of me.:eek:

[Action Dave]

When I trim It to level the Boat run ok But Bump the Trim just a little more .. It jumps out of the water and throws you side to side ... I tried to power throw it and It felt likethe boat wanted to flip back...

Action Dave Come Over and Show Me how to drive this Boat ... It has a Lot More power Just do want to flip or roll the boat .. I have my Life jacket and Kill switch But I cant dump $4,000 on something I F up and roll it ..


You won't roll it but it's gonna be a terrible ride untill you learn how to handle the chine walk. All pad v-bottoms are like that. Where do you usually run? I can meet up almost anywhere in Broward, although I prefer Key Largo.:cheers:

[chrislopez1313]

Ull need some seat time then more seat time then big balls then more seat time and big balls then MORE seat time...
It took me over a year and two different boats to finally master driving one of these.
Once u get the driving down it the best feeling in the world.
There are alot of fast actions guys on this board so just keep the questions coming.
If the engine height, trim, weight distribution, prop are wrong or setup incorrectly it will take twice as long to learn how to drive it.
Good luck and be safe :thumbsup:

[XstreamVking]

Don't know if this will help your problem....But here you go... I get my V-King running with the trim down to keep it under controll. At about 3500-4000 rpms I hit the trim and throttle at the same time. The hull jumps on the pad in seconds with the correct running angle and packs air for lift. Think the trick is to get the hull out of the water and flying....Most small fast boats don't like the transition from skimming the water to flying. Do it quick....BTW V-Kings are known for porpoise and china wok.....So I feel your pain...

[1fastg3]

It sounds like the boat is popping onto the pad like they do, you just aren't used to that feeling so you're not sure if it's running right. Best thing to do is have one of the SE FL guys show you the ropes. I was going to offer to meet until I realized you were 150 miles south of me.:eek:

I was Going to drive over there On satirday .. But I am slamed at work ... Scoot said you want help me drive it ....

I was Hopping Action Dave would Come to margate And Show me how to run this action ....

I talk to Frank for Outboard specialties today ,, He is On S&F to ,, He saw the boat tuesday and he wanted to drive my Action But was In a rush to work .. So if anyone wants to show me the Right way I am up for a run....

I thought I had it on the pad One time But Damn I was shaken ..

[1BadAction]

I don’t think I'm making it out of melbourne this weekend. I have more work than I know what to do with. Anyhow, it'll all come to you, just takes some seat time.

[1BadAction]

I don’t think I'm making it out of melbourne this weekend. I have more work than I know what to do with. Anyhow, it'll all come to you, just takes some seat time.

[1fastg3]

214539214538Just lowered in back down about 3 inchs ... I am going to run It in the morning and see .. But I think Its to lower No ...........Pic's are will the jake plate all the way up ..

[baja200merk]

Level the boat, then level the motor. Then mark the prop shaft center line on the side of the case (not the bottom of the case). Start with it about .5 above and go up from there. Keep in mind my action had a motion bottom (flat pad) so the happy engine height will be different on your concave pad but 1bad or dave should be able to point you in the right direction :thumbsup:

[afr]

so this is how you can truly tell them apart is the flat pad was on the motion and the concave was on the action

Level the boat, then level the motor. Then mark the prop shaft center line on the side of the case (not the bottom of the case). Start with it about .5 above and go up from there. Keep in mind my action had a motion bottom (flat pad) so the happy engine height will be different on your concave pad but 1bad or dave should be able to point you in the right direction :thumbsup:

[1BadAction]

Some of the actions had flat pads (non concave) also. It all depends on the size and year.

[afr]

you going to make it over here on saturday if not ill go back to my road job

[1BadAction]

I was over tuesday night so it's going to be next weekend before I shoot over.

[afr]

alright 10/4 just give a shout

[baja200merk]

mine came out of the motion mold, i know the guy who built my boat in 1995. I dont know what actions had a flat pad I have never seen one but that doesnt mean they dont exist :thumbsup:

[Action Dave]

New ones (03-up) have flat pads.

[1fastg3]

215317Some Guys wanted to see more inside pics

[1fastg3]

Gas tank pics215318