Blarney Question

[mmassm]

Hey Sam,I'm interested in trying to finally make a trip to Blarney.I've only had my 1/4 Master 10 years and don't have any idea what it weights,probably heavier than a DR-20.Can I throw all the lead out and run Pro Gas??? I heard a certain E-tec got 1/2 tracked by a Merc in 700 ft.!!!!:D

[FlowMaxx]

Half track my butt.... What do you expect when the mercs are allowed on plane starts.......

[racerx]

Smokin Joe has been half trackin E tecs all year with his hydrostream,i did hear Joe was finally beat by a old wrecked DR 2o,but then i heard Sam let it run with no weight?

[Speed Jr.]

Its easy to get half tracked when your waving your hands to re-lineup when the starterman still decides to hit the green light....pretty ****ty if your ask me......Just happens it was an Etec so someone has to say something.

Jr.

[racerx]

Brett your supposed to stay even with the boats,Its Blarneys,keep up with the pace, how ever they want to start, and hammer down...Isnt the inside lane the pace boat,like it used to be?

[racerx]

There you go Brett,i used to tell them however you want to start,dont matter,cause your going down....Brett nobody stops at the bouy,ya follow each other around line them up and tag it,Its Blarneys....Did any one get red flagged,no, then you lose.....

[racerx]

Brett did we not dicuss the weight rules at the beginning of the year,what good are they if ya dont use it?

[FlowMaxx]

Let's see some video of this supposed "half track" I am not gonna cut on smokin Joe or any of the other drivers, but if you are gonna brag about winning, then at least let it be a fair race.

And let's be perfectly clear, if mercury wins this class this season, it is due to a very unfortunate incident. I hope Mr. Mason is doing well and we see him back in action again.

And Yes, smokin' Joe's stream is badass :cheers:

[Michael J Giesler]

congrat's to Goerge for winning high points this year as for pro-gas let's think how many guys are running each week 4 wow:rolleyes:

[winski13]

on plane start? Yea right. 1180 lb boat? Your 0 for 2 so far. The Triad idles at 1100 and comes to the line flat and leaves flat. No popping the bow. The boat is being weighed this weekend and will be proper weight next Thurs. Bob said to bring kleenex and visene and hope it doesn't turn more than 9500 rpms like it did this week. There is alot left.

[E-tec1]

just for the record..............kleenex wouldnt have done a thing............VALIUM mite have helped:eek::D:D

[racerx]

Take X-LAX it will keep your mind off it...

[Michael J Giesler]

well now let's talk about mr. Mason a tunnel mod v-8 4.0+liter running against 2.5 drags i remember when shep got laughed at when he raced his tunnel with a 2.0 know was laughing any harder then i was when he put a drag 2.5 on and crushed everyone but he was DQ but makes you think you can still run a mod v-8 on a champ boat but not a 2.5:mad: I THINK WE SHOULD TOSS OUT THE RULE BOOK AND RUN 2 CLASSES BIG CHEATERS AND LITTLE CHEATERS LET'S FACE IT WINNER OF PRO-GAS GETS A WHOLE $200 DOLLARS AND LAKERACER'S GET $100 IT COVERS FUEL THAT'S IT:o

[RIVERRUMMER 70]

well now let's talk about mr. Mason a tunnel mod v-8 4.0+liter running against 2.5 drags i remember when shep got laughed at when he raced his tunnel with a 2.0 know was laughing any harder then i was when he put a drag 2.5 on and crushed everyone but he was dq but makes you think you can still run a mod v-8 on a champ boat but not a 2.5:mad: I think we should toss out the rule book and run 2 classes big cheaters and little cheaters let's face it winner of pro-gas gets a whole $200 dollars and lakeracer's get $100 it covers fuel that's it:o

i think back in the day it was this way....... Center steering or 4-seater any thing goes in each class.....:reddevil:
IF YOU COULD GET A DECENT START.... "SLEEPY BEAR" YOU MIGHT HAVE GOT HIM :thumbsup:
LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD THE PUNCH AND SPEED AT HALF TRACK TO GET HER DONE.
YOU NEED YOU SOME OF THAT "NITRO MIST" ENERGY BOOST FOR YOUR MOTOR!!!:reddevil:

[TNT]

Half track my butt.... What do you expect when the mercs are allowed on plane starts.......

Do we have to remind you of a certian orange and black mirage ( well actually two of them) half tracked you... hmm wierd

[racerx]

Mike that tunnel of sheps never beat my green and teal allison,him and Gohr tryed it on me that one year for fun,but i did hear when it whipped up on the boys the following year, it was banned...Riverrummer your right,they all think there cummin on, but the race is over,and Flow i know how good Joes hydrostream runs,and yes i seen it half track the big E,and he has the race boat at home which is a half second quicker...

[H.WOOD187]

It just may be time an Allison runs pro-gas again.

[winski13]

half second quicker in the quarter. What about 700? He should bring it out and show everyone.:)

[Sam Baker]

Back to the original post....Mike, if you want to come up and run, you have to come on up quick. They cut it down to only the top 4 boats around the end of August. Let me know ahead of time and we can get you weighed.

As for Bob's boat....it does need to be weighed and it's Bob's responsibility to get with me to get it weighed - which he and Nick Kaye haven't done. He wasn't running any weight so clearly it's most likely too light and therefore I doubt the results from this past Thursday will stand. I've not been available the last couple of weeks with my folks being in town so I'll get to it this week and he'll have the proper weight in it. That being said, Joe was pretty dang close to him.

[FlowMaxx]

Someone please show me a video of the 1100 rpm launch and the ETEC getting half tracked by anyone.........

[the Shocker]

yup its time for a certain ALLISON to run!

[MODVP22]

Yay see you guys Thursday

[the Shocker]

damit,i hope i will make it,i was geting to gutsy today and melted down #6.but dam it was runnin the best it ever has.lol 2 people,bag of goodies and a cooler,24 chopper,9000 rpm.ive never got it past 8700 before with that prop!

[outboards4life]

damit,i hope i will make it,i was geting to gutsy today and melted down #6.but dam it was runnin the best it ever has.lol 2 people,bag of goodies and a cooler,24 chopper,9000 rpm.ive never got it past 8700 before with that prop!

Rich they always run the best right before they pop.

[FlowMaxx]

damit,i hope i will make it,i was geting to gutsy today and melted down #6.but dam it was runnin the best it ever has.lol 2 people,bag of goodies and a cooler,24 chopper,9000 rpm.ive never got it past 8700 before with that prop!

Dude that sux big time. Hope you can get it back together soon......

[MODVP22]

damit,i hope i will make it,i was geting to gutsy today and melted down #6.but dam it was runnin the best it ever has.lol 2 people,bag of goodies and a cooler,24 chopper,9000 rpm.ive never got it past 8700 before with that prop!

Rich was just scared, he heard I was coming this week;):p

[Sam Baker]

I've got a 150 eTec we can put on your boat. We'll have to reinforce your transom so the torque doesn't cause the motor to end up on the deck, but you know eTecs give you the winning edge Richaroo.

[NPK2003]

Don't we race at Blarney Island or is it now Whiny Island? I can't believe this one run has caused so much smack being talked. I own the boat and I have a right to comment.
First of all, Blarney is supposed to be fun, not the nationals. If it wa, then every boat gets weighed going in and out. How do any of you (us) know really what the other guys weighs on any given night. Kickin' a bag just ain't going to cut it.

Second, the only topic should be how much lighter the DR20 was and it's valid. But, the on plane BS is not a matter of weight, it's a matter of WAIT. WAIT and see if a red light is thrown. I watched the run and even if the E-Tec got out of the ditch first, it wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome.

Third. The reason we didn't have the weight in the boat is that we didn't even think we would be a contender! We knew going in that the motor hit a wall at 9500 and just wanted to get some seat time for Bob and see how BAD we were going to lose by. The win was TOTALLY unexpected! In fact, before the eyebrow drag that we built for the STV RR ate a piston, it was kicking the DR20 out of the hole and was running a 24 besides. There are witnesses to those runs on Wind Lake.

Fourth: Now people are going to bring "their other boat". Well, it's about time! I've been bringing two and sometimes three of my boats to help fill the class. How about you guys? What have you done to even out the field and support our racing? NOTHING in my book. I even tried to get a rookie established in the River Rocket to help out Lake Racer, but it didn't work out. It costs me more to just haul the boats and fuel them adding in the registration costs than the $200.00 you could win. Now I know why there isn't a "Sportsman Class" at Blarney. In fact, the word "CLASS" sure doesn't seen to be applied to many drivers now days.

Fifth: What the "f"? If people say they have faster boats and want to win so bad, then why are they coming with their slower boat? What's wrong with that picture. Besides, a boat running 1/4 mile, leaving on a running start rope race is set-up different than for Blarney. I'm not so sure that it would be any faster, but if it is, then why not prove it. If winning Blarney is all so important, Joe, you wouldn't be giving up Blarney to become champ in your other racing. I have the utmost of respect for you, but I truly thought that you were doing Blarney as practice for where your heart truly lies. I apparently am wrong. Geez!


Sixth: Everyone running in Pro Gas is actually a LOSER! Why? Because there isn't a boat out there that would have caught Bruce Mason in points if he didn't blow over! PERIOD! And who by the way, does have class.

Seventh: The DR20 isn't as light as it once was. It has been totally reinforced on both sides by adding Okumi Ply and glass over all the bracing and a ADDING a brace between the two that left a void along side of the capsule. The difference in rigidity is unbelieveable. Plus, the light midsection and trick lower are not on the boat. It has an OLD style 12" mid with a restrictive exhaust flow. The boat also has had both top panels of the sponsonson from front to back re-glassed onto the deck and has Bondo and two layers of primer plus paint added to the original weight. We'll see how much it weighs tonight when Sam comes over.

My last comment is that if I had my way, there would be no weight limits in Pro Gas class at Blarney. Why do we spend thousands of dollars more to have light weight hulls built to fill them up with lead shot? It NUTS!! I can definetely see it in Lake Racer to even out the field, but when you step into the top class, it should be that you are racing with and against the best power to weight and set-up you can bring it on with. I don't agree that I have to LOWER my boats performance to the least capable competitor. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
I gotta run, but I'm not done on this.

Nick Kaye

[super aggregates]

Very Well Said!!!!!!!!

[mirage243]

Rope Racing Rocks..............:D:D:D

[john w]

Rope Racing Rocks..............:D:D:D I am sure it does if you want to drive 8-15 hrs to get to a race from Northern IL or Cheeseland !!!

[E-tec1]

I pulled my whinin............im just tired of the whole damn thing

[racerx]

The Triad returns.....

[mirage243]

I am sure it does if you want to drive 8-15 hrs to get to a race from Northern IL or Cheeseland !!!

I do it all the time,.......................I towed mine almost 25,000 miles last year.

[NPK2003]

The Triad returns.....

Now if only RacerX returned to pilot her like when we raced each other....

[NPK2003]

I pulled my whinin............im just tired of the whole damn thing

Brent;
Hang in there and let's see what happens. I envy the looks of your rig and your determination. I do not consider your remarks as whining, more as frustration. You are giving 110% every week. I remember whining when I first came to Blarney because I thought that I wasn't given the win when it was close because I was a newbee. John told me off! How untrue I found my original perception to be.

You should know that when your out there running, the talk on the docks is that ..." Wow, that E-Tec is really coming on!" or "Hey, Brent's up..This should be good!" It's alot harder to win races pioneering new technology than running light on weight. Sam should be showing up soon to weigh the DR20 and I'll post it, No, I'll ask Sam to post it. If anything on weight needs discussion, maybe it is the Mean Green Machines need a weight break right now? Well, in your case, it should be the "Mean WHITE machine!"
See you next week. I'll be boatless.
Nick K

[E-tec1]

its frustration.............and it goes way deeper than Blarney..........or maybe as ill put it................its VENTING.......................and i need to control it at times............and your right............the work involved is absolutly endless..............but one day.............

[Michael J Giesler]

unlimited that is the class Mr.Mason should be in in the first place :iagree:Nick you are right i think everyone should stop winning a bring there stuff out to the island but the fun part is now when you win you must be cheating and the main reason alot of people don't come out is $$$$ wow a $100 to win lake racer and $200 for pro gas that $ hasn't change in what 20 years it's sad because it's a killer place to go perfect example this weekend is Kosh there are alot of guys going there and not coming here:o also because of the all the bs

[NPK2003]

then you could both have "class"..............runnin light..............i cant believe you admitted you knew you were doin that.........im at a loss for words............by the way, there is a class for run what you brung...........its called unlimited...........

I don't believe it. While I'm writing you a nice and heartfelt response, you're still fuming! And trust me, I am sure that we weren't the only one's running light last Thursday. We might be the only ones honest.

[NPK2003]

NEWS FLASH!! BIG BEND, WISCONSIN!! For immediate release:
Sam Baker weighs the DR20 and Joe P is there to witness results. Boat weighs 1326 with Bob and gear. That's with an empty tank and we pumped out 36 lbs of fuel. So the DR20 was 1326 + 36 lbs = 1362. 38 pounds light. That's equal to the BS being thrown around about the hull being super light. Let's all knock it off and we'll run the weights and please send us your prayers that we find why the motor hits the wall at 9500 RPM.

I'm for deleting this entire post. Anyone else?

[racerx]

The DRX is back,good for you Nick,they got a sample of the real deal,now find the 700rpm loss,if i remember that tac was always off,on the lower side,where are yo gonna put the weight,seem like the spot was just in back of the canopy?

[MODVP22]

FYI,
I'll come clean now. My boat is 1300 lbs empty. I weigh 165 plus clothes, safety equipment, 8 gallons of fuel, ropes, stick on lights and I'm gonna get smoked unless someone get caught sleeping at the lights.

[NPK2003]

RacerX;
Quotes"...where are yo gonna put the weight,seem like the spot was just in back of the canopy? "

I think I should put it in Bob A's shorts, right in front of the canopy wall. He's kinda sleeker in build than you and I. I don't know how many balls are in a bag of shot, but certainly we could brag that Albee has more "BALLS" than anyone in the class!?!?

Jeff. You gotta join us guys going to Gulfport. It's awesome, cheap to race multiple classes and the nightlife is whatever you want to make of it. The DSRA guys are some of the best in racing, but also will do anything to help a fellow racer and are just plain hospitable. The price to race a class is like $30.00 AND joining DSRA is the price of a tank of fuel in your truck. Their Outlaw class is the best and is getting tougher because of the racers who enter it. Everybody is gunn'in for Mathew Caldwell, but what's new in the last two years? Raptor re-rigged his DR20 with new power and came in second on his first time out in outlaw. Impressive, and he did it with half an E-Tec. Galen was instrumental in the achievement. Sorry Triad Wally L., but it looks like the DR20's rebuilt after a mishap are faster than out of the mold! Well, except for Dixon's remarkable performances. Throw T-Rex, Garrell and Dave Busch into the fray and it's a hell of a lot of fun and there's no hard feeling after the race. Just a lot of bar smack teasing of each other with 2 bands playing in the background.

ModVP, a good hull set-up and reaction time can overcome that weight disadvantage. Besides, if it's windy or choppy, you have the advantage. And how many times do we have to tell ya to take out the Porta-Potty and at least empty it!

[MODVP22]

Back to the original question-bring that 1/4Master out man!

Nick, I'll see you guys Thursday morning.