BP well explosion explained

[CDave]

Got this in my email. It explains what caused the BP well explosion.

[CDave]

IMO, the number 1 guilty party is MMS, the federal body that is the police, oversite, judge and jury of drilling and production in federal waters. No oil company can drill a well without MMS aproval. So, if this info is correct MMS holds the most responsability, IMO. Not saying all other parties involved don't share responsability, but nothing gets started in federal waters without it being OKed by MMS.

[transomstand]

IMO, the number 1 guilty party is MMS, the federal body that is the police, oversite, judge and jury of drilling and production in federal waters. No oil company can drill a well without MMS aproval. So, if this info is correct MMS holds the most responsability, IMO. Not saying all other parties involved don't share responsability, but nothing gets started in federal waters without it being OKed by MMS.

Anyone with more than six brain cells would be forced to agree, but we both know who's gonna get hung for this.

I would also have to disagree with the article about the crew not knowing what hit them. We know, since that article was written, that the crew, especially the 11 who died, executed an emergency disconnect, when that failed, they continued working to try and control the well knowing full well what was about to happen.

[Mark75H]

If you read the excerpts from the testimony of the DH crew ... its easy to infer that the BP excecs were not on the DH to give them a safety award as originally described, but to force them to use the seawater instead of the drilling mud as the crew knew was the correct procedure given the anomalies they were encountering.

[stokernick]

so if I do something wrong it's not my fault because my mother let me get away with it!

[flabum1017]

so if I do something wrong it's not my fault because my mother let me get away with it!

Umfortunately, when your'e employed by someone, you have to do things the way they tell you to do them even though you know it is wrong or face being terminated for insubordination. It's a real crappy deal especially when those in charge only care about cost and/or do not have a firm grasp on the task at hand. I deal with that regularly. When things do go wrong, the real person to blame is the one in charge who made the call, but as we all know sh*t rolls downhill.

[CDave]

so if I do something wrong it's not my fault because my mother let me get away with it!

No, more like a government engineer designs a bridge with flaws. It gets OKed by the government committee of bridge design, even though they know there are flaws in the design. They hire a company to build a series of bridges of this design. Several bridges are built and don't have any problems. Even though there is a design flaw. Then the most recent bridge collapses and kills people and everyone wants to paint the construction company as the BIG EVIL BAD guy. Even though the government knew the design was flawed and could fail and kill people.

[transomstand]

so if I do something wrong it's not my fault because my mother let me get away with it!

Your damn right. Your mother was takin drugs when she should've been watching you, your mother allowed herself to be bribed with candy, your mother was lookin at porn, when she should've been watching you.

But it's ok, now that you got in trouble, we're gonna fix it. Now your gonna have 3 irresponsible mothers, that'll fix it.

[stokernick]

my mother wasn't watching porn,that was my father,least that's who he said he was!

[RNM018]

Well , In my opinon . At the end of the day . If they where not forced to drill in such deep waters as these . They would have had this problem taken care of in a matter of hours . I'd rather see these guys pumping from righht in the middle of the Everglades , where they can contain ,and accident , of this sort . As opposed to a mile deep , where they can not reach to make the needed repairs !

Rich Martin 018

[Markus]

When things do go wrong, the real person to blame is the one in charge who made the call, but as we all know sh*t rolls downhill.

In this case, it may well roll uphill all the way to the CEO.

[CDave]

In this case, it may well roll uphill all the way to the CEO.

The CEO of BP? Do you really think he has anything to do with the drilling operations?

[stokernick]

nope,just collects the checks!

[CDave]

Blamimg the CEO of BP for this problem is the same as the idiots who blamed Bush for not gettting help to N.O. fast enough after the hurricane. Bush's fault?, how about the LOUISIANA GOVERNOR who Bush told to get her act together BEFORE it hit or the New Orleans MAYOR who fled to Dallas Texas before it hit.

[neveredge]

Well , In my opinon . At the end of the day . If they where not forced to drill in such deep waters as these . They would have had this problem taken care of in a matter of hours . I'd rather see these guys pumping from righht in the middle of the Everglades , where they can contain ,and accident , of this sort . As opposed to a mile deep , where they can not reach to make the needed repairs !

Rich Martin 018

The oil companies drill in deepwater because in some cases it is easier and more profitable to do so. But of course the govt. wont let us drill on land or in shallow water so that is also a consideration.

What obama doesn't understand is that these rigs he just shut down will leave the gulf, and maybe never return. All those jobs lost and all the future wells and the oil lost. We get a very large chunk of our oil from the gulf and when the existing wells dry up there wont be any new wells to take their place, thus driving oil prices much much higher. My rig just left for Africa, it probably wont be back for 20 years. That is 300 good paying jobs lost to Africa. I know of at least 3 other rigs that have pulled anchor and left as well. They wont be back. They make more money overseas so now that the leases are broken (thank you obama, you fool) they will leave.

Many thousands of wells have been drilled without any problems at all. The moratorium should be lifted. This was caused by a very bad decision. Don't punish the many for what 1 did. Why kill our economy and punish all of America?

[transomstand]

The oil companies drill in deepwater because in some cases it is easier and more profitable to do so. But of course the govt. wont let us drill on land or in shallow water so that is also a consideration.

What obama doesn't understand is that these rigs he just shut down will leave the gulf, and maybe never return. All those jobs lost and all the future wells and the oil lost. We get a very large chunk of our oil from the gulf and when the existing wells dry up there wont be any new wells to take their place, thus driving oil prices much much higher. My rig just left for Africa, it probably wont be back for 20 years. That is 300 good paying jobs lost to Africa. I know of at least 3 other rigs that have pulled anchor and left as well. They wont be back. They make more money overseas so now that the leases are broken (thank you obama, you fool) they will leave.

Many thousands of wells have been drilled without any problems at all. The moratorium should be lifted. This was caused by a very bad decision. Don't punish the many for what 1 did. Why kill our economy and punish all of America?

The problem is, there is a very large segment of powerful people that are absolutely delighted by this turn of events. This accident is a game changer on the American political scene. They have siezed the moment. We'll be seeing a new "energy policy" shortly, which will be much less availible energy, at a much higher cost. They could care less about the millions who will become unemployed, and the increased dependancy on foriegn oil.

[Markus]

The CEO of BP? Do you really think he has anything to do with the drilling operations?

He is the CEO and ultimately responsible.

Lord Browne had to leave after the the Texas City and Alaska pipeline incidents.

[Markus]

Replacement to Tony Hayward announced.

It will be interesting to see how long the Chairman stays on.

[j_martin]

in this case, it may well roll uphill all the way to the ceo.


replacement to tony hayward announced.

It will be interesting to see how long the chairman stays on.

bingo!

[Lost In Space]

Not to many of us can get fired along with a 18 million $$$$ package. Must be nice... sure hope he can live on that!