lil boat big motor

[Six Four]

here is the checkmate i have been building, inspired by the Chapmans Checkmate seen at Smoking in the cove.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/sixfour_photo/0502101905-00-1-1.jpg

[T-REX]

Shandon...anybody ever tell ya U wuz SIKK...............Oh yea, I did..LOl:eek::thumbsup::D

Me like!!!!

[Tom Foley]

here is the checkmate i have been building, inspired by the Chapmans Checkmate seen at Smoking in the cove.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/sixfour_photo/0502101905-00-1-1.jpg
Make sure all your dependants are taken care of !!!!:eek: Thats sick !!:thumbsup:

[Wizard]

Will it float? :eek:

[DavidW]

My brother has a 15 foot v-mate copy that looks exactly the same as that boat. About 15 years ago he used to run a crossflow v6 with a little work done to it and a 16 inch mid he built for it . It ran solid mid 80's and for reasons I still don't understand was one of the easiest boats to drive at top speed. It has about a 6 inch wide pad. Boat ran best with a 28 yamaha drag, choppers had too much bow lift.

[Scream And Fly]

Nice looking boat. I cleaned up the photo a bit for you :)

http://i42.tinypic.com/2gtvw49.jpg

[michael_m]

WOW Greg its amazing at the diffrence of that photo after u cleaned it up

[Mr. Demeanor]

I love it, go figure!

[Six Four]

Thanks Greg, I tried but couldnt get it with photobucket.


Guys thats a 260 and not a 225,lol

[largecar91]

Guys thats a 260 and not a 225,lol[/QUOTE]

Good thing, we would hate to think you were underpowered with a 225!!:D

[Wizard]

I want to drive it. My life insurance is paid up. :thumbsup:

Wicked cool! :cool:

[michael_m]

I bet if i could get it dailed it as lite as it is it would be a awesome 800 ft boat.Probably wreckless but id love to drive it thought lol

[mirage243]

Ya'll oughta see Benji run that little demon of his, it's BAD ASS.

[Deznuts3570]

this is a frickin mean lookin boat

[1fastg3]

1960 13 ft glasspar G3 with a old school 115 merc ... More pics if you want to see

[Mr. Demeanor]

Theres a guy with the same boat as my 13'er with a 225 on it that runs 95mph. I will see if he can send me some pics.

[tux974]

here is the checkmate i have been building, inspired by the Chapmans Checkmate seen at Smoking in the cove.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/sixfour_photo/0502101905-00-1-1.jpg

Shandon, :eek::eek: That is sick. Like stated already, hope you have a good life insurance policy! ;):D

[Way2slow on H2O]

I hope we see it at the Cove Shandon :thumbsup:

And yes, Benji's boat is a true "crowd pleaser"!!!

[90 5.0]

How long is that boat and what does it weigh?? That looks like a scary combo...

[mdc]

How long is that boat and what does it weigh?? That looks like a scary combo...

The 15' Checkmate weighed 495lbs from the factory with the full interior. I had a 1972 model with an inline 150 Merc that ran in the low 70's until I blew it over. This thread shows pics of Benji's V6 Checkmate.
http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169361&highlight=benji+checkmate&page=3

[delawarerick]

How does it sit in the water? Looks great:thumbsup:Rick

[T-REX]

Shandon, My orange Laser(365# hull) ran better wit more HP...It handl'd good wit a 2fo, but when I ran it in Houston wit tha 260, it actually handled better...My Yeller one(265# hull) runz reely well wit 260 HP, but wit tha drag mota, it iz reach'in tha point ov bein very close to that line whether U have control, or maybe ya don't..Lol...

I've personally seen Benji's boat run, and it seemz to be very stable thru 1000' feet...Now, whuther tha ole man iz juss a kick azz driver, or it's juss an eazy drive'in bote..:eek::D....I thank He haz tha handle on what it takes to make tha bote go strate...Tha more time ya spend in tha seet, tha more it bekumz a part ov U and U git a handle on what it takes to make it do what U want, AND it may even show U what U don't want it to do!!!...

http://i41.tinypic.com/20fv2w.jpg

[Brabender]

whatcha got goin on, on the bottom there Rex

[DavidW]

about 15 years ago at the Islamarada sand bar

[T-REX]

whatcha got goin on, on the bottom there Rex


EXSPERIMENT'IN...lol:D:D

[Six Four]

T-Rex, I figure its gonna take me alot of seat time, since I have been driving with training wheels,lol. I also seen benji run and your right its pretty smooth, but he asures me he can eat his sandwich,and wave at the crowd while running it,lol He built me the plat like he has on his, so mine well be pretty much set up like his. At one time he had a 2.5 on his and said it handle good other than during the launch, but said that could be controlled. Im ready but not!!!!!

[mirage243]

I also seen benji run and your right its pretty smooth, but he asures me he can eat his sandwich,and wave at the crowd while running it,lol

You forgot the part about smokin' a cigar and making sure his shoes are shined.:D

[Six Four]

You forgot the part about smokin' a cigar and making sure his shoes are shined.:D

he is skilled:thumbsup:

[JUPITER PULSARE]

That's one bad azz puddle jumpin Deathmate...I mean Checkmate!!:thumbsup::reddevil:

[Dave Strong]

Shandon, My orange Laser(365# hull) ran better wit more HP...It handl'd good wit a 2fo, but when I ran it in Houston wit tha 260, it actually handled better...My Yeller one(265# hull) runz reely well wit 260 HP, but wit tha drag mota, it iz reach'in tha point ov bein very close to that line whether U have control, or maybe ya don't..Lol...

I've personally seen Benji's boat run, and it seemz to be very stable thru 1000' feet...Now, whuther tha ole man iz juss a kick azz driver, or it's juss an eazy drive'in bote..:eek::D....I thank He haz tha handle on what it takes to make tha bote go strate...Tha more time ya spend in tha seet, tha more it bekumz a part ov U and U git a handle on what it takes to make it do what U want, AND it may even show U what U don't want it to do!!!...

http://i41.tinypic.com/20fv2w.jpg

T-REX, that is a great pic, how far into to the run was that?:thumbsup:
Any pics of Benji's boat running?

Dave:cheers:

[STV_Keith]

Nice looking boat. I cleaned up the photo a bit for you :)

http://i42.tinypic.com/2gtvw49.jpg

Gotta love Auto Levels in PS huh? :)

[T-REX]

how far into to the run was that?


Dave, I thank that wuz not far out tha hole...it's wuz juss settle'in down....I thank...:D

[TEXAS20225]

Shandon Thats a real killer Chip ya bilt fer yer self i hope yu aint lettin that girl of yours drive that thing that would be scary:eek::eek::eek: but its gonna be scary no matter who is driving that coffin :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: nice rig just take it slow:D:D:D

[Six Four]

Naw she gets the powercat hydro, BUt probably could drive it better than me,lol

[M.CHAPMAN]

He aint gonna need no paid up life insurance and don't go ordering him a coffin yet. If this thing runs and handles like Dad's he'll be running straight as an arrow and thinking about eatin a sammich to. I can't explain it totally but these things love horsepower. Dad's clicked off the timers last year at SITC (1000' track) at 8.55 with 40lbs. of extra weight in it. Straight as an arrow every pass. Shandon is setting this one up identical, only difference is a little more weight on the tale end but it should not make a real big difference.

[RussF]

back in 1976 I had a MX15 with a new Merc V6 175 on it but it never handled well, then i put that motor on a Hydrostream Vector ran mid 80

[Mr. Demeanor]

S&F, what did you ise to clean up that pic? I have a larger version of the pic in my sig I would love to sharpen. The pic was snipped from the video I posted. Is it possible with the original to clean it up enough so you can read the Yamaha decal?

[mirage243]

He aint gonna need no paid up life insurance and don't go ordering him a coffin yet. If this thing runs and handles like Dad's he'll be running straight as an arrow and thinking about eatin a sammich to.

That's Michaels version of the story,................................................... but Benji say's you gotta be a cross between Mario Andretti, Dale Earnhardt, Jimmy Johnson and John Haas to drive it.:D

[oldschoolltv]

Isnt that what lawn chair Joe from over on lake tarpon use to have, and he drove it with a lawn chair?

[gary slagle]

Isnt that what lawn chair Joe from over on lake tarpon use to have, and he drove it with a lawn chair?

joes favorite little boat was a 15 ft baja, he made a wood bench seat for it, joe is oldschool foresure.he had many ,2 or 3 16s, but liked the 15 best.back in the day it was common to run big motor on a small boat, when the black max came out in 76, we had a bud running a 14 baja with a 175, watching him holeshot & hearing the first v 6 would make your blood boil! at that time joe had a royalcraft with a 135 omc that ran very well for its day.

[oldschoolltv]

Thats right it was the Baja that I saw him run a few times, was a real sleeper, I bet he surprised many boats with it, Matt

[Dave Strong]

I love reading this suff, sleeper's Rock. Always called our 88 BAJA a sleeper, pinkish 18.6 Family openbow that runs low 70's. People up here have no idea what fast really is. They think my 19 Cougar tunnel is crazy at low 100's. Tell them that if I was to go to the lower States with it it would be a slug compared to alot the stuff down south.
Can just see the expressions on there faces to see a 280+hp on a older 15-16' BAJA, Checkmate, Lazer etc.:eek::eek:
It is strange how a poorly setup or driven boat seems to look faster than one 10 or more mph faster that is running stabil and smooth.:rolleyes:

Dave:cheers:

[Six Four]

hope to get to run this thing this weekend

[Powercat]

Shandon:
That is wicked.. be sure to have the chase boats handy when
start running that one.. Expect the unexpected !!
Danny

[goneby]

Randy Wildman in florida put 225 on 13 playmate pictures and video somewhere dont know how to move them no sure how fast he got it ,but it was sick

[Dave Strong]

hope to get to run this thing this weekend

Get someone to take some photo's, be cool to see.
Dave:thumbsup::thumbsup::smiletest:

[200VEGAS]

I think i read wildman got to like 85, when he quit lookin

[Six Four]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIjxttNRgYA


think I need seat time and set-up, all negative trim, brutal out of the hole, only about half throttle. Its scary out the hole I watched some more video I have and it looks like I have to much boat in the water, the front seems to be down, I was running a 27 yamaha drag copy and never got to trim it,lol gonna try a 24 drag copy, but I know it will be worse out the hole. any suggestions. never hammered it!!!!

oh I was only turning around 6k, never ran it wot, ran 79mph,

camera man sucked,lol

[M.CHAPMAN]

I told ya it can get a violent holeshot at a full punch of the throttle. Get some seat time with the 24 run a level trim and let it get some air under it own it's own. How was it @ 79 mph, nice and straight???

-Michael

[slowverado]

sounds great! watching the video gave me a headache though...

[harrells]

That thing looks EVIL.

[Mr. Demeanor]

I feel like I just watched a video shot by a meth addict in day 3 of rehab! :eek: :D
Looks like a handful. I wish mine sounded like that!

[Six Four]

yeah poor video for sure, buddy was on a boat doing it, :eek:

[Six Four]

move video. getting better, ran it 83 with the 24 yamaha drag, even worse out the hole though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNYoMt-mHxU

[T-REX]

Shandon, Look'z like yo lil bote iz have'in tha same problem my lil bote had...Tha transom iz too strate up and down to tuck tha mota enuff for launch(unless your juss not tuck'in it all tha way)....Juss from myobservation ov tha video, tha mota iz too high on launch, and still too much bote in water on top...JMO tho...

I no ya have'in fun, kuz ain't no feel'in like that launch when it leevez tha water!!...Fun, fun, fun!!!...

I thank ya gunna have a hardtime gitt'in ya bote ta run like Benji's...Kuz Benji haz all dat ugly in front ov hiz, an all dat ugly gotta weigh purdy good!!!:D

Look'in good...:thumbsup:

[delawarerick]

Trex it looked like when you borrowed Raptors powerhead at the rumble. Rick

[Six Four]

trex you mean to high as in trim or to high on transom

[Mr. Demeanor]

Hydrofoil would help. My boat has too much weight in the back and came up like that. Doel Fin, although ugly and cheap looking, really made a difference. Even helps just motoring around at no wake speed.

[T-REX]

TRIM.....Mota ain't tuck'd enuff!!!!

Rick iz rite, that iz exzakly what my orange laser did when I put Raptors 260 on it at tha rumble...I couldn't tuck it enuff to make it leeve witout doin tha moon shot deel!!!....2 wedges later, it leeves much betta...It still will jump out tha water, juss more controll'd!!!:thumbsup:

[Dave Strong]

TRIM.....Mota ain't tuck'd enuff!!!!

Rick iz rite, that iz exzakly what my orange laser did when I put Raptors 260 on it at tha rumble...I couldn't tuck it enuff to make it leeve witout doin tha moon shot deel!!!....2 wedges later, it leeves much betta...It still will jump out tha water, juss more controll'd!!!:thumbsup:

Think a sand bag or two up ft and some wedges the cure??:confused:

Dave:)

[milkdud]

trim that motor DOWN!! man your way tooo positive of trim for launch. I dont know if your just not all the way down or your just want to show off doing bouncing wheelies.

I have no where the power to weight ratio but have similar problem. I tuck way in on launch and as soon as the boat gets out I ride the trim button and the rpms/mph climb quickly for a fast controllable launch.

And tell the camera man to set down the beer and hold onto the camera with two hands

Nice boat!

[Dave Strong]

Its hard to tell how trimed in the motor is the Alien covers give the illusion the motor is trimed out when they are not. JMO

Going to take some playing to get it right, got a prop with more tail lift less bow lift to try?

Dave:smiletest:

[Six Four]

just thing the camera man is a cop, thats the one you want shooting at you,lol

I got some wedges coming and im gonna move my group 24 battery closer to me. The trim is all the way down during most of them runs, some I tried with it level shaft with pad.

[oldskier]

DANG! Watching it chinewalk once it starts to settle down after the moon launch and the porpoising reminds me of my Viper. Still tryin to get the skid marks out of my undies. And it wasn't HALF as wild a motor as yours. After my ex-boat racer local mechanic drove it he told me not to line it up against anything in the same lake....It was fun for a while but I put trim tabs on it and it settled down. Wish I had tried the wedges and a Doel-Fin.

[M.CHAPMAN]

Shandon,
Here's the pics of the jackplate angle, wedges should do the same thing. I'll get that helm out to you in a day or so, I should have a truck coming by soon. The cables in Dad's boat are ssc12414 14' long.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc47/calhounmarine/95d8d794.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc47/calhounmarine/37e7f923.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc47/calhounmarine/f7fbc948.jpg

-Michael

[Dave Strong]

Michael looks like your angle is close to 20deg total ?

Dave:eek:

[frank_a]

just thing the camera man is a cop, thats the one you want shooting at you,lol

I got some wedges coming and im gonna move my group 24 battery closer to me. The trim is all the way down during most of them runs, some I tried with it level shaft with pad.

Man o man Shandon, that is one mean little boat. VERY cool!

I want a big Merc!

Frank

[M.CHAPMAN]

That should be close, these little things are sensitive to weight distribution and prop height and degree of trim, Once you nail that combination they run like hell with some big HP on the tale. Shandon is getting close. Won't be long and he'll be able to drive it with one hand runnin wide open.

-Michael

[Mr. Demeanor]

My little boat (smaller than yours but less power) was a nightmare to drive until I got the setup right. Now its too easy. Keep at it. The smallest movemenst in weight make a huge difference for me. Just moving the seta back and forth changes the boat a lot.
The difference props makes is almost unbelievable. Just work on getting it settled then the speed will come. I almost sold mine when I first drove it and it only went 62mph with the exact same power. It was so hard to drive I would have never imagined going faster. Now I easily drive it with one hand and no foot throttle at over 80mph.

I may start a microboat thread for us LOA challenged boaters :)

[Six Four]

sounds good, we riding the short boats,lol. I'm gonna make some of the changes and hope for the best, gotta a hometown race that dad and I oversee on teh 30th, hope it gets better for that,lol
I cant say it enuff, thanks for the help Michael and everyone else that responds...

[milkdud]

I like the angle put into the jack plate I may have to try that.

Conrad

[bigredinohio]

That thing is wicked!

[Six Four]

Got my wedges in and got the battery moved forward some, Gonna put my Allison foil on tomorrow and go try it......:thumbsup:

[Dave Strong]

Got my wedges in and got the battery moved forward some, Gonna put my Allison foil on tomorrow and go try it......:thumbsup:

Best of luck:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Dave:cheers:

[Six Four]

Ran 3 passes today in a 1000 ft until my trim gave up, ran it 84 at 7k with a 24 Yamaha drag copy, gonna try a few more props, got a 27 Yamaha drag, 24 et lightning, and a 22 chopper. It has a lot better hole shot, but I think i need a faster trim and the hydraulic steering is gonna have to go, but Let me tell you fellas that have second guess this lil boat, once it settles out of the hole it is a nice ride, gotta a race Sunday And well have some video soon after....

[M.CHAPMAN]

Take that hydro steering and place it on a catapult at the coast and send it out as far out as you can.

Sounds like you are making progress.

-Michael

[Mr. Demeanor]

Or better yet, I'll take it!

[Six Four]

Gotta er running strong

[Mr. Demeanor]

Well?

[Six Four]

Maybe these will work,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_bzfSNduo

[Six Four]

I put some mobster Smart tabs on it, made a worlds of differnce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVjp2wBMumU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_bzfSNduo

[SPECTRE racing]

http://i30.tinypic.com/2yki7ue.jpg
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