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chrislopez1313
02-26-2010, 07:32 PM
I've set up a couple of actions before, However usually with fishing motors.
I picked up a 280, with 20" mid and sportmaster.
Ive currently run 28-29 choppers, but i know this is alot of motor for this boat, and it will turn higher rpms.
What pitch props should i try with this new setup, Stlye? chopper ? Clevers????
Any info helps .. Thanks

coslanzetta
02-26-2010, 07:52 PM
anything big...lol 30-32et or cleaver of the same pitch...put a 30 chopper on it...it will haull a$$ wit that...faster than u would ever wana go in that boat...good luck and be carefull...

1BadAction
02-26-2010, 09:30 PM
put a 30 chopper on it...it will haull a$$ wit that..
Yea it'll haul ass with a 30 chopper... all the way to the scene of the accident.

ET or ET clone for cruising, cleaver for top end runs.

BeefKid
02-26-2010, 10:20 PM
Yea it'll haul ass with a 30 chopper... all the way to the scene of the accident.

ET or ET clone for cruising, cleaver for top end runs.

:iagree: i got an 18 and the 32 cleaver was a great top end prop cause it dont have much bow lift... these boats dont need any more than what the bow does lol... i run a 34 et for cruising and it does awesome all around

chrislopez1313
02-27-2010, 08:06 PM
Thanks for the info guys....

chrislopez1313
03-10-2010, 08:48 AM
Picking up a 15" mid for this set up. Never ran an action with a 15, must handle alot better. YEEEHAWWW

dez nuts
03-10-2010, 10:19 AM
If you set that boat up right and can drive it, It will run upwards of 120mph but you better wear a lifeline and a helmet because more than likely you are going to get wet if you push it to that speed. Dave:nonod:

1BadAction
03-10-2010, 10:39 AM
If you set that boat up right and can drive it, It will run upwards of 120mph but you better wear a lifeline and a helmet because more than likely you are going to get wet if you push it to that speed. Dave:nonod:
:iagree:

chrislopez1313
03-10-2010, 12:21 PM
Id be happy getting to 100. I dont have the balls or the experience to go more than that. I appreciate ur concerns. I should have the boat in the water in about 2 weeks, with a 32 cleaver. I will post my progress, thanks

motorheadbishop
03-10-2010, 02:58 PM
I know there getting hard to find, But if you can find
a 30 hoss prop...:thumbsup: you'd be happy...
My father raced a 17' Action for years back in the day w/ a
2.4 and found the Hoss to be the best all-round prop for that bottom...

1BadAction
03-10-2010, 03:03 PM
I know there getting hard to find, But if you can find
a 30 hoss prop...:thumbsup: you'd be happy...
My father raced a 17' Action for years back in the day w/ a
2.4 and found the Hoss to be the best all-round prop for that bottom...
a 17 and a 16 have totally different bottoms.

BeefKid
03-10-2010, 03:07 PM
Id be happy getting to 100. I dont have the balls or the experience to go more than that. I appreciate ur concerns. I should have the boat in the water in about 2 weeks, with a 32 cleaver. I will post my progress, thanks

i just put a 16in on my 18 action and i can feel the difference... the boat is alot easier to drive at 90... after that i gotta start workin at it but that with my hydraulic steering that has some play cause its not the pro helm or nothin... out yesterday and i think the boat is better with the 16in mid and i like running my 34 et its a good handling prop.. i like my 26 et too which is what i ran yesterday and like i said 90 95 mph the 16in makes a difference... my boat has seen over 100 and it is a rush!!! i got like 101 and backed off had to stand up and kinda walk around get rid of the shakes i had:o:rolleyes:... love my boat its an awesome boat all round and real fun to drive:thumbsup: good luck with yours be safe

Beef:cheers:

motorheadbishop
03-10-2010, 03:08 PM
a 17 and a 16 have totally different bottoms.

But they are both V-bottoms...:thumbsup:
I think...:p

16/ 17' Action
Is one concave and one flat???

1BadAction
03-10-2010, 03:18 PM
Depends on your definition of a V-bottom http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8965/stirthepott.gif Both pads are concave, the 17 is physically wider, both the hull and pad, and has no reverse chine like the 16. After looking at all 3 in the past few days, I think the 17s are closer to a ventura bottom than the 16s are.

chrislopez1313
03-29-2010, 11:18 AM
Got the boat in the water, tried a 3 blade 32 cleaver. boat ran fine but im used to running a chopper and having much more bow lift. I found it way more difficult to get the boat on the pad. Is it the cleaver style prop. or is it that this boat is set up differently than my previous. This set up has a 10 gal. tank and battery in the front of the boat were as my previous had nothing at all in the front. anyways didnt get past 90 need more seat time. I was just curious to see if in fact its going to be easier to drive with a chopper. Boat has WAY more left in it.

bluecheckmate
03-29-2010, 11:25 AM
I would put the gas tank and battery in the back. It's going to sit low but should be fine.

1BadAction
03-29-2010, 11:29 AM
The gas tank at a minimum needs to go in the back. No question about that.

bluecheckmate
03-29-2010, 11:31 AM
My boat sat very low in the back. Rub rail was sitting atleast 2 inches below the water. But my boat was heavy for a concept 17ft.

Action Dave
03-29-2010, 12:20 PM
The boat is gonna handle funny with the cleaver. It's gonna lift the stern and make the rear end wanna swing around. Like stated earlier, it's good for a top end run but you're probably better off with an ET style or SRX for all around use. A chopper's gonna give you more lift than that boat should have with that much horsepower.

chrislopez1313
03-29-2010, 12:25 PM
I figured with that much power on the back. I shouldnt have a problem with weight in the front. I know that the boat sits low as hell in the back . my previous one had the tank and batt. in the back but it ran with a 200 hp. so i needed all the help lifting i could get. Im trying to determine if its the cleaver prop or the addition weight in the front thats making the boat more difficult to drive.

chrislopez1313
03-29-2010, 12:51 PM
Anyone got a 30 ish chopper hubbed for a fast shaft sportmaster..
I have a real nice 29 SRX that i know will do wlel on this setup. Anyone know of where to get it hubbed for the fat shaft.

chrislopez1313
04-06-2010, 02:32 PM
Boat is in the water. Scary fast and easy to drive. I had the short tilt ram swapped out for the regular long travel ram. That took care of the drivability issues. Still has the gas tank and battery in front and is haulinn ass and handling great.:thumbsup:

action17
04-07-2010, 11:05 AM
Depends on your definition of a V-bottom http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8965/stirthepott.gif Both pads are concave, the 17 is physically wider, both the hull and pad, and has no reverse chine like the 16. After looking at all 3 in the past few days, I think the 17s are closer to a ventura bottom than the 16s are.

you are correct the 17 is closer to a ventura bottom.

slowaction420
04-07-2010, 01:43 PM
boat is in the water. Scary fast and easy to drive. I had the short tilt ram swapped out for the regular long travel ram. That took care of the drivability issues. Still has the gas tank and battery in front and is haulinn ass and handling great.:thumbsup:
good to hear im working on the same boat with the same power any new top end #s?
WHAT KIND OF STEERING ARE YOU RUNING ?

chrislopez1313
04-07-2010, 01:58 PM
Speed #s are just over 100 so far. Ive been testing in a lake with not much room. I am going to open it up at markham park Friday.
Steering is hydraulic. nothing fancy, and is holding up well.
The sportmaster has the original torque tab on it that really helps steer the boat.

bluecheckmate
04-07-2010, 02:14 PM
Speed #s are just over 100 so far. Ive been testing in a lake with not much room. I am going to open it up at markham park Friday.
Steering is hydraulic. nothing fancy, and is holding up well.
The sportmaster has the original torque tab on it that really helps steer the boat.

Where have you been testing it at?

chrislopez1313
04-07-2010, 02:20 PM
Blue lagoon lake miami

bluecheckmate
04-07-2010, 02:28 PM
yeah your right. Markham park is your best bet. I used to take it to snapper but too narrow when i had the action.

slowaction420
04-08-2010, 01:10 PM
Speed #s are just over 100 so far. Ive been testing in a lake with not much room. I am going to open it up at markham park Friday.
Steering is hydraulic. nothing fancy, and is holding up well.
The sportmaster has the original torque tab on it that really helps steer the boat.
wow i cant wait for my boat to be done bet it will hit hard with the 280ss on it

bluecheckmate
04-12-2010, 06:22 AM
Did you run the boat at markham last friday?

chrislopez1313
04-13-2010, 02:55 PM
No luck, weather has sucked. I will post my max speed / rpm/ setup as soon as i get to test it at Markham park.

Reaction19
05-05-2010, 01:19 AM
just got me a 16 with a 2.4 15'' motor on it looking for setup. supposidly ran high 80's low 90's with a 200 2.4 with a few things done and a 30 chopper. hmmmmmm idk time will tell where to start on a prop 28 chopper or et or go bigger lets hear it.

coslanzetta
05-05-2010, 08:20 AM
it should go that fast...my 18 wit a 2.4l and a small ear 30 chopper went low 90's..that small boat should haul ass 28 pitch or higher..

chrislopez1313
05-05-2010, 09:43 AM
just got me a 16 with a 2.4 15'' motor on it looking for setup. supposidly ran high 80's low 90's with a 200 2.4 with a few things done and a 30 chopper. hmmmmmm idk time will tell where to start on a prop 28 chopper or et or go bigger lets hear it.

I had that same boat before, with a bone stock carb 200. 20" offshore mid cle l/u boat ran consistant 85 mph, with a 28 chopper. I had a 29 srx that would have probly gotten a lil more mph but never got to try it out.
Keep the boat light in the front. The 16' is definetaly the scarriest to drive but Goddam is it fun. :thumbsup:

bluecheckmate
05-05-2010, 10:21 AM
I had that same boat before, with a bone stock carb 200. 20" offshore mid cle l/u boat ran consistant 85 mph, with a 28 chopper. I had a 29 srx that would have probly gotten a lil more mph but never got to try it out.
Keep the boat light in the front. The 16' is definetaly the scarriest to drive but Goddam is it fun. :thumbsup:

I agree i would say with a 2.4 your looking in the mid 80's.

Reaction19
05-05-2010, 07:50 PM
Got her cleaned up and shes almost ready gotta paint the lower then ill be ready for the weekend!

Action Dave
05-06-2010, 03:06 PM
Virgil, i don't see why that boat shouldn't run high 80's possibly more if the 2.4 is strong. You might wanna try an ET or SRX for that boat as you won't need as much lift as the bigger Actions do.

Reaction19
05-06-2010, 09:41 PM
thanks dave gotta try an srx on it for sure. hope to see everyone out there soon!

thomast87
07-11-2010, 07:55 PM
I have a 16' verado and have been trying a wide variety of props, mainly have issues keepin the bow up I ended up going with a chopper. Cleaver? Forget it I was staring at the water not going anywhere lmao!

franky
07-13-2010, 06:21 PM
You would have to use more trim with the cleaver because of wait in front,the cleaver lifts the stern causes bow to drop.The chopper lifts the bow so you do not have to use much trim.

chrislopez1313
07-15-2010, 09:11 AM
thanks dave gotta try an srx on it for sure. hope to see everyone out there soon!

Virgil I have a nice 29 SRX. U should definately try it, They run awesome on the Actions.
Let me know when ur prop testing and ill send it down to homestead. :thumbsup:

frederick55
07-17-2010, 05:41 PM
Had 18 action Bernie built me years ago. get the tank out of the front. Those boats are set up to have it in back. Then start working with it. Should get less chinewalk. Just my opinion, but tried that tank front crap before. It wasn't pretty

frederick55
07-17-2010, 05:48 PM
You must be from the Keys. They call em potato chips down there. Love those action's . Bernie built me an 18 back in 1983 for $3650. Try getting that deal now! Now I' running 1979 Hydrosteam viking with 225 Rude. It hauls ass.

Reaction19
07-24-2010, 09:29 PM
ate up the 30 clever looking for a 32 and gonna raise the motor some more!

chrislopez1313
07-25-2010, 09:47 PM
The cleavers are no match for the ETs . i got a 32 3blade cleaver if u wanna try it, But the boats handle better with the ets, I borrowed a 30p Et and ran 101 mph. I got a new 32 Et to try as soon as i get the boat back from shaun.

Reaction19
07-31-2010, 08:46 PM
sounds good my boat loves the clever planes in a boat length and accelerates well. only thing that sucks is the cruise speed with the clever anything over 4500 and it rocks. did you measure engine height from the concave or the flat edges???