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KonaKustoms
01-08-2010, 09:23 PM
Is this a bob's plate?
http://www.susquehanna5.com/fullstory.php?97463
wow!

Maple Leaf
01-08-2010, 09:53 PM
Ouch!:eek: Sorta looks like it..

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff250/Fieldzy15/220507_orig.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff250/Fieldzy15/220506_orig.jpg

stokernick
01-08-2010, 10:35 PM
so that's what they mean when they say,''jack it to the moon!''

KonaKustoms
01-08-2010, 11:09 PM
This was PAST tha moon dude....lmao

paul folks
01-08-2010, 11:40 PM
we had a bobs plate break back in the old days on a stratos we had w/ a 2.4 200 and they paid for a new motor, steering, and prop and gave us another jack plate...

KonaKustoms
01-08-2010, 11:46 PM
I wonder if he seen this yet? They have great plates, what happened?

ivan2214
01-09-2010, 12:19 AM
actually mine looks a little flimsy with my yami on it.....i mean im not scared but it looks like its not that strong

KonaKustoms
01-09-2010, 12:20 AM
This is bad!!!

powerabout
01-09-2010, 12:33 AM
I wonder if outboards should have PBO tethers like F1 cars have on their uprights?

VELOCITY 3.6GT
01-09-2010, 12:47 AM
It took me a minute but did this motor jump into the boat? At first i thought they placed the motor in the boat, but....... Hope everyone was alright.

Dave D
01-09-2010, 01:07 AM
Bobs came up with a repair for that some kind of travel stop, quite a few had that happen. I hear if it came with your new ranger they replace the whole deal motor an all.

KonaKustoms
01-09-2010, 01:14 AM
That had to cost Bob's a pretty pennie

MGEOD
01-09-2010, 09:01 AM
If this is the accident that was posted on several Bass sites they hit something underwater. Motor crushed driver against console . Passenger ejected . Lost his leg . Severe cut from prop. Both are doing ok now I think . Kind of scary if you think about it . Motor coming into boat , heck nothing to shut if off .Copied this off of another site.

While competing in the Chesapeake Fall Pro Teams tournament on the Chesapeake Bay this past Sunday Walt Ross and Willie Barrett apparently hit an underwater obstruction shortly before weigh-in. The boat stopped immediately and the hydraulic jackplate separated causing the 225 E-Tech to recoil back into the cockpit hitting both anglers. The impact sent the Ranger into a 360 degree spin and ejected Willie while the motor crushed Walt against the driver’s console.

Despite his injuries, Walt had the presence of mind to grab onto Willie and somehow locate his cell phone to call 911. He held Willie to the boat while rescue boats responded immediately. Willie sustained numerous severe lacerations to his hand, arm, and leg as well as hypothermia due to his 20 minutes in the water. He was put into a drug-induced coma and flown to ShockTrauma in Baltimore. As of Tuesday he has had surgery on his arm which included the insertion of plates and screws. He also had his hand reconstructed on Monday. As of this memo the severity of his leg injury is the main concern. At this point doctors have been unable to stop the bleeding and are considering all options. As far as we know he is still in a drug-induced coma.

Walt, the driver has a fractured sternum, fractured clavicle, broken ribs and cuts and bruises as you would expect. He remains in intensive care at Johns Hopkins Bayview Medical Center, also in Baltimore. In addition to his pain and serious injuries he is guilt-ridden regarding the condition of Willie, his best friend and longtime tournament partner.

Walt Ross and Willie Barrett will obviously out of work for a long while. In addition their spouses have been and will remain at the hospitals with their guys eliminating their household income.

In response to the literally hundreds of requests nationally we are setting up a “Help Fund” for Walt, Willie and their families. As we approach the holidays it means even more to have the opportunity to help out fellow Angler’s Choice family members at this time.

If you wish to contribute to this fund please make your check payable to Angler’s Choice DelMarVa and put “Walt and Willie Fund” on the memo line of your check and send to Dave Kilby/Angler’s Choice DelMarVa, 1713 Beechbank Way, Bel Air, MD 21015. If you wish to be put on AC address book to receive updates on their conditions and progress, please include your e-mail address or e-mail me at [email protected]. Upon request a receipt will be sent to you. If you are unable to send a financial contribution please offer prayers for Walt, Willie, and their families.
Thanks and I wish you and your family a joyous holiday season.
Dave”

Capt.Insane-o
01-09-2010, 12:21 PM
A few years back I witnessed a pro line with a 225 fourstroke Yammie that hit a piling, the motor came back in the boat and pinned the guy to the dash. Bad bad deal.

KonaKustoms
01-09-2010, 12:25 PM
I think im gonna go look at my plate closer now seems to me the cyl. top is what is breaking and letting the plate slide out the top, Did they put a safty stop on the new ones yet?

Stoker1
01-09-2010, 12:33 PM
Prayers going out for those two guys.

WATERWINGS
01-09-2010, 12:47 PM
It took me a minute but did this motor jump into the boat? At first i thought they placed the motor in the boat, but....... Hope everyone was alright.

I noticed that too......I wondered why, (and HOW) did they set the motor in the seats instead of on the back deck......then I noticed that the fishing seat was still in its socket, and figured it had to have JUMPED the seat to get where it is now.......I figured the passengers were already thrown out at this point, but I was wrong.

It does look like the top of the ram is snapped, the slide part is still on the motor.

Dave D
01-09-2010, 12:51 PM
I beleive they have made the change in the new ones, and they have some kind of an update kit for the older ones. I even think the kit is free or it was at first. there web site has information on this, (Travel stop)

powerabout
01-09-2010, 12:59 PM
I wish the guys a speedy recovery.

I wonder what a jacking plate would look like if the engine manufacturers made them...and did lots of impact testing?

Dave D
01-09-2010, 01:11 PM
Not sure if Mercury would get involved in any testing or they just deal with the money, as the name on the plate is still Detwiler

powerabout
01-09-2010, 02:36 PM
if the starter motor says Delco Merc still fix it ya?

powerabout
01-09-2010, 02:44 PM
So the engine has been throughly tested by the manufacturer
( without a bracket I'll bet)
The steering has ABYC rating
The boat has a USCG rating..
what does the bracket(s) have as its a safety item, no?

Some lawyer is going to ask 'would this accident have happened if the engine was bolted to the transom'?

BUZZIN' DOZEN
01-09-2010, 03:00 PM
King Gill posted some pics of his buddies V8 that ripped, I think, a Bob's plate off

Capt.Insane-o
01-09-2010, 03:14 PM
King Gill posted some pics of his buddies V8 that ripped, I think, a Bob's plate off

It ripped it right out of the boat. Nothing to do with the plate itself.

Maple Leaf
01-09-2010, 04:01 PM
It ripped it right out of the boat. Nothing to do with the plate itself.

No capt, I'm positive the jack plate it self failed on that one. Can't seem to find the pics though....

Capt.Insane-o
01-09-2010, 04:08 PM
No capt, I'm positive the jack plate it self failed on that one. Can't seem to find the pics though....

wrong

http://i37.tinypic.com/eriydi.jpg

Maple Leaf
01-09-2010, 04:16 PM
wrong

http://i37.tinypic.com/eriydi.jpg


I thought it broke off? Or was it just the bolts?

Fish
01-09-2010, 04:32 PM
never really thought about this happening, has anyone ever thought about the equivaalent of a kill switch between the motor and the boat? I'd hate to have a motor spinning a prop 5-6k come in the boat still running.

BUZZIN' DOZEN
01-09-2010, 05:59 PM
wrong

http://i37.tinypic.com/eriydi.jpg
My back hurts just LOOKIN' at that:eek:

typhoon
01-09-2010, 06:01 PM
I wonder if outboards should have PBO tethers like F1 cars have on their uprights?

Certainly wouldn't be hard to pop a couple of 1/2" holes through splashwell/ transom and loop some decent Spectra rope around the whole mess.
In fact, I think it'd be a good idea for a lot of other reasons too, outboards falling off transoms is not that uncommon.

Regards, Andrew.

king gill
02-05-2010, 10:13 AM
Hi Guys...Jackplate snapped in half down both sides where it was milled out for the sticker.....

D.B.S
02-05-2010, 11:03 AM
I agree with you King, that plate is broke in half.:nonod: This is not good, I have one on my TRIAD with over 400hrs and two different motors, it's been on there since summer of 2000 never failed, maybe time for a new one..

RB in NM
02-05-2010, 11:50 AM
I never really cared for the way a Bob's plate ,when fully extended or even near the upper areas on it's travel limit, flexed on that thin plate.

RB

albypine
02-05-2010, 12:08 PM
oh my ... now i scared to have jack plate:eek:

BUZZIN' DOZEN
02-05-2010, 12:26 PM
Hi Guys...Jackplate snapped in half down both sides where it was milled out for the sticker.....
I thought so! post some pics:cheers:

Maple Leaf
02-05-2010, 12:30 PM
Hi Guys...Jackplate snapped in half down both sides where it was milled out for the sticker.....

HA! I was right, Take that capt!:D

D.B.S
02-05-2010, 12:41 PM
When did this happen?

DerStream
02-05-2010, 01:23 PM
Man I cant believe that, its crazy how it missed the seat on the back deck & landed on the driver and the prop chopped up the guy sitting in the passanger seat. Its crazy, think about what happended to this guy, he first hits something with the boat, a big jolt goes through the boat, then the motor comes up & slams down onto his back while still running, pins him against the dash & steering wheel, then the boat takes a 360 with the motor running away on his back.....holy sh*t that must have really sucked....and even worse for his buddy who got chopped in the arm & leg by the prop & then got hypothermia from getting dumped in the water....Thats gotta be traumatizing

RB in NM
02-05-2010, 02:46 PM
Lots of things in that picture may have changed from when the motor came into the boat,,,, I don't see any chewed up stuff from the prop on the decks or the gunwales or seats,,,,, the pedestal seat may have been put in for a reason while boat was being towed,,,,, the cables are definately tight , but the motor may have been slid up into that position for towing to dock. You never know!

Best of wishes for the two men and thier families!

I have seen pictures before when a motor came into another boat, the hull was full of blood and gore, one maybe two died in the picture I am thinking about...

RB

BUZZIN' DOZEN
03-13-2010, 08:43 AM
Hi Guys...Jackplate snapped in half down both sides where it was milled out for the sticker.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ANnmOAB8js&feature=channel

nealxb2003
03-13-2010, 08:51 AM
Holy-Chit! Do we know for a fact that's a Bob's?

WATERWINGS
03-13-2010, 09:56 AM
So, if it "kinked" the steering wheel a little bit....I guess that the V8 came into the cockpit too?

Or did that happen when the cables snatched tight?

XstreamVking
03-13-2010, 11:12 AM
I have always had the feeling that when any slide plate was extended, it resulted in a loss of strength and stability. For my fishing boats I use on a porta bracket and a mercury paralift. I need a lot of travel... Have a land and sea slide plate on my Stream mounted so that the sweet spot isn't more than 1/4 way up on the rails. Any higher and it would make me nervous. Some boats have the plate mounted too low, and to get to the sweet spot the plate is required to be maxed out... Lot's of twisting forces the plates weren't designed for...Bad thing for these guys, best wishes to em.

king gill
03-14-2010, 11:53 PM
I thought so! post some pics:cheers:

Ill see if I have time tomarrow to post a few:cheers:

JP Love
03-15-2010, 12:30 AM
Hooly sh**t is a really bad day for those guys..

aaronmt73
03-15-2010, 12:55 AM
Hard to believe theyd risk the strength to get the sticker to be inset.There has to be more to it then that.I will say you wont be seeing any Bobs plates on my boat.

powerabout
03-16-2010, 11:18 PM
I'd like to see the tests as per the manufacturers do re running over a log at high speed etc.

Considering most brackets have less material thickness and only the same bolt pattern as the original engine.
Where is the extra engineering strengh from having the engine much further back and hence having a massively greater lever effect?

XstreamVking
03-17-2010, 09:19 AM
Porta products makes a lift that is so over built that I believe if you ran over a log, etc. with it the motor would be ripped off and the plate would not have any damage... Engineered to be much more sturdy than necc. I have one thats 10 yrs. old and except for some corrosion is still good as new.. And that's on a commercial use boat..

michael_m
03-30-2010, 11:24 PM
look at the nose cone in the pic you can see he hit sumtin the nose lloks to be flattin a lil

90 5.0
03-30-2010, 11:53 PM
I'd like to see the tests as per the manufacturers do re running over a log at high speed etc.

Considering most brackets have less material thickness and only the same bolt pattern as the original engine.
Where is the extra engineering strengh from having the engine much further back and hence having a massively greater lever effect?


logs won't do that, that's an old bridge piling or something else like that.

They should have been trimmed up, at angle the lu will bounce off of crap. You have to hit something square to do that. I've run over thousands of logs,sandbars trees, sunken cars you name it trimmed up motor bounces and you take a jolt.

Something like this happens it seems yearly on a lake somewhere. Doesn't matter the brand of plate or if they have one or not, you hit a piling square with the lu flying and motors commin' in the boat.


manual jp>hydro jp

Costa
03-31-2010, 02:42 PM
That is not a Bobs Jackplate it is a T&R Marine Hydrojacker jackplate. That style plate was introduced back in 1988 as a mechanical jackplate. They never worked for over 6 months before the motors would burn up. They then changed to a hydraulic design. They sent me everything to convert mine to the hydraulic design for free. (hydraulic ram, lines and motor/resevoir). Everything worked great for about 2 years then it split the aluminum right in the middle of the track where the plate slides but fortunately I got to the shore before the motor ripped completely off the boat. I called T&R and they sent me a new and improved frame for the plate. It has worked flawlessly since 1990. Almost hate to say I have one but it is still working great!