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JrCRXHF
01-07-2010, 02:06 PM
Well i put down 1/2 mile of 5/16 pex tubing for some infloor heat in the basement. I also moved my fish tank to be in the wall above my bar. God i hate the long winters. Also putting the 7.2 sound system wiring in the floor between the tubes.
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And the in floor heat.
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I should take some pictures of what i have done of late.
Pro300x24LD
01-07-2010, 02:42 PM
fish tank is badass....but I am a little more interested in the infloor heat, Can you put that under carpet or a standard kitchen floor?
I always wanted a heated basement floor, but not bad enough to pull out an existing floor and re-poor
Charger200
01-07-2010, 03:05 PM
Needs a skim coat of concrete on top to protect the pipe and properly radiate the heat. You can buy metal fins and it can be installed on the underside of the floor from the lower level, doesnt work as good.
JrCRXHF
01-07-2010, 05:26 PM
I put down al foil then used tapcon screws to screw down the 19/32 ply wood to the concert. Then cut 7/16 grove in the floor and made 225-250ft loops. I put the al foil around the tube then pounded the tube into the grove. I think it would work well with carpet too but the heat would come through just slower. I put down a 1mm foam pad then the fake hard wood floors over the 19/32 with the tubes in. The heat down stairs comes on 1/5 as much as the base board heat up stairs. The tubes are all set on 6" off centers vs the 12-15" that you would do with in floor heat in concrete.
The system works very well and i only raised the floor 3/4 to 1 inch.
JR IN JAX
01-08-2010, 07:15 AM
You really want to keep the thermal mass of the floor as small as possible for "Changeover" days. I have seen many a floor hydronic heating sytem raise the room temperature another 4-5* degrees after it shuts off. This is bad during the spring with cold nights and then warming up quickly....
halveb
01-08-2010, 11:08 AM
I've got in floor radiant heat in the basement that was poured into the concrete slab when the house was built. In my opinion when spring rolls around all you have to do is turn it off when temps get up to about 45 to 50 degrees outside. Basements are pretty comfortable during those transitional periods anyway no need to heat them at that time of year. I would never do another house with out radiant floor heat, I really like it. JR is correct though the larger the mass the slower the adjustment. Of course, on the other hand the larger the mass the more constant and smooth the heat. The biggest advantage of radiant floor heat is that it isn't on/off like forced air (cold one minute warm the next).
Hydrophobic guy
01-08-2010, 11:16 AM
fish tank is badass....but I am a little more interested in the infloor heat, Can you put that under carpet or a standard kitchen floor?
I always wanted a heated basement floor, but not bad enough to pull out an existing floor and re-poor
You can basically build a wood floor over the concrete they have all kinds of clips and holders insulators etc... for the tubing its not vey difficult. As for the residual radiation you get used to setting your t-stat a bit lower. Was in the heating business before I smartened up. ;)
Charger200
01-08-2010, 11:26 AM
The system and thermostat should be adjusted so it shuts off befor room temp is reached to let the water circulate to use all the heat that already exists in the water. If you system shuts off your water circulation and boiler at the same time then it is not set up properly. It can be a huge science and good literature to get would be modern hydronic heating, if your in the business and dont have that book or one of equivelent value its work the purchase its like the bible.
baja200merk
01-08-2010, 12:13 PM
my parents whole house is heated by the floors.Every inch of tile any way i have always liked it. It gets pretty cold here and even with 62 windows it stays nice and warm :thumbsup:
JrCRXHF
01-08-2010, 01:33 PM
Mine is done in the wood. I only have one t-stat but each zone has a flow meter so that is how i balance the basement. Each loop is also less then 250ft. The t-stat has a in floor sensor that i give a range to keep the floor. It also looks at the air temp.
With my system when the t-stat is not calling for heat the water just sits in the tubes. With my triangle tube boiler it does not really hold water for the floor to keep pulling from.
This system i put it was home made because i had built in furniture and i could not raise the floor more then 1.25 inches.
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