computer any good ?

[jerry]

http://www.buy.com/prod/Acer-eMachines-EL1300G-02w-w-20-Inch-Widescreen-LCD-Desktop-AMD-Athlon/q/loc/101/213484144.html?adid=17992

[Kartracer]

I'm not a big fan of e-machines. I have had to rebuild too many of them.

For the price, might not be a bad deal though.

[WharfRat]

I'd look around some more, those aren't the best specs even for that price. Try tigerdirect.com or newegg.com or directron.com

[oldskier]

I'm not a big fan of e-machines. I have had to rebuild too many of them.

For the price, might not be a bad deal though.


:iagree:With a 20" screen even though it is an AMD and only 1g memory, 300 bucks looks good to me.

[Phil's other half...Sue.]

This is my personal opinion only...I don't like any E-machine (Gateway bought E-machine, don't like them either). You can build yourself a Dell now for a decent amount of money, and the monitors are very inexpensive now. I find more problems with the E-machine and Gateway computers than any other. Even for $299.00 the specs are very low, 1.6ghz is slow, only 1 gig in ram, 160 in harddrive (we are up to terabytes), xp home (we are into 7 now), even though the graphics card NVIDIA is decent with specs that low it isn't going to matter it will still get bogged down fast and run slow. If you are only using it for email or the like it is ok, but to do anything with pictures or video or anything that requires graphics, forget it. You won't even be able to download many pictures without using up your harddrive, anything above 5 megapixels will eat your harddrive. Here is a little secret, if you have a business of any sort, you can purchase a Dell at a really good price, if you are a regular consumer it costs more, but if you can or know of anyone with a business you can save lots of money. Don't waste your money on that E-machine even for $299.00 it's not worth it. With monitors so cheap now, concentrate on the computer first..

check this out, small business Dell:
http://www.dell.com/business/desktops

consumer from Dell:
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops_great_deals/fs.aspx?refid=desktops_great_deals&s=dhs&cs=19&~ck=anavml

[WharfRat]

Would take an AMD over an Intel ANY DAY!!! JMO

[j_martin]

E_machines gives you the hardware. They make their money loading it up with adware that uses the computing power you thought you bought and internet bandpass you buy to constantly get in your face.

Other hardware vendors are jumping on line with that MO also. HP being one of the worst.

my (geek) 02
John

[j_martin]

Would take an AMD over an Intel ANY DAY!!! JMO

Doesn't make much difference anymore. I know with the P2 chips the pentium slowed down if overheated while the AMD literally smoked. That's old history, though.

Nowadays, the 64 bit command set is the same for AMD and Intel.

hope it helps
John

[4JawChuck]

90% of these cheap computers problems are caused by the cheap power supplies they put in them, when you bring it home throw in a good CSA approved power supply and they last. Usually what happens is people buy them and then the pwr supply takes out the video card, then the MB and finally all the periferals buy it. Components can only take dirty power for so long before they take a dump.

The only problem is the good pwr supplies cost $100 not $20. Had good luck with this model of Corsair pwr supply, its under rated at 400W which is usually plenty for 99% of the computers out there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

I have this model of Corsair in my home computer but it is more than most need, paid $400 for it here in Canada. Nice and quiet too with the large diameter fan.

http://www.corsair.com/products/hx850/default.aspx

http://www.corsair.com/products/hx850/850large.jpg

[1BadAction]

E_machines gives you the hardware. They make their money loading it up with adware that uses the computing power you thought you bought and internet bandpass you buy to constantly get in your face.

Other hardware vendors are jumping on line with that MO also. HP being one of the worst.

my (geek) 02
John
:iagree:

first thing I do with a new machine is format the hard drive and load a fresh install of my OS. I don't even bother trying anymore. :D

[WharfRat]

There is actually a program out there called the "decrapifier", for specifically removing the "bloatware" that store bought systems come with. I've almost always built my own for almost 10 years now. (Ike kinda crushed my inventory I had at the time)

My personal system I use now I just built in Feb.

[1BadAction]

BTW, Jerry, check out tiger direct, they are having all kinds of sales right now. I think you can get more computer for the same or a little bit more $.

[sho305]

I got this one a couple years back now for little over 300 with an athlon 64 5000+ (2.6GHz) and 320 drive, a gateway that was a factory refurb, on ebay. Of course prices drop in a couple years. Otherwise about same features but this has vista and came with no monitor. I could not build one for anything close to that cost or I would have. Also maxed the memory in this for $40 couple weeks ago 2gb to 4gb. I bought a demo VC for $40 on ebay last year a GF 7950 GT OC, I don't have a new game to slow it down. It plays HL2 at 60 frames with everything on. Now you can get a GF 9500 for $40 new at newegg.

Cheapest I've seen a monitor is $99, and don't know how good it was. This gateway didn't have that much stuff on it far as junk, is very quiet until my new video card ramps up and even then is less than older machines I have. That is onboard video on the OP's emachine, I had that too, its weak.

I would probably hunt down a little better machine far as drive size and cpu. Memory and VC is pretty easy and cheap to add. Also mine has firewire I needed for my video camera, make sure you get those details if you have a specific use for it.

I've ran mostly AMD for a long time and never had problems, saved money on them, and OC'd them a lot years back. I did blow one once, the socket crumbled from the heat/age and a little piece fell right in the grease. Don't put cpus in a tower with it standing I guess.

[WharfRat]

You have your opinion & I have mine, like I'm gonna listen to an Intel link for facts.
nuff said

[Phil's other half...Sue.]

You guys are funny!!!! when AMD first got released many years ago, I think it was just a step above the worst processor available which was a Celeron. Then the new AMD Athlon was released and it was suppose to be a much faster and better processor for graphics, although I have never purchased an Athlon, bad experiences repairing computers with the older AMD, I am an old school Intel user...it is to each his own, and whatever serves your purpose! just my P.O.:D I need my computer to be maxed out and fast, can't handle a slow computer, If I have to wait more than 1 second, it makes me nuts....

[j_martin]

Not to piss in your puddle but in no way are AMD and Intel the same instruction set; especially 64-bit. Why do compilers produce instruction set specific code? Why are 64-bit builds processor specific?

http://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/intel-avx-and-cpu-instructions/topic/70387/

Why when I put Linux 64 bit on an Intel machine do I use the AMD kernel?