Midnight express loose a motor!!

[robert jordan]

What do you guys think happened to this 350 verado?
http://i48.tinypic.com/jrv1fp.jpg

[fast fun 2]

BEating the hell out of it in rough water..and I dont belive there is a solid mount Verado yet..

[robert jordan]

Heres a link talking about it.
http://forums.floridasportsman.com/forum/boating/good-thing-about-having-5-engines-your-boat

[Maple Leaf]

Coool!

[Capt.Insane-o]

Junk.

[qctracing]

Ouch! That's my favorite ME too..

[Scream And Fly]

Wow, I've actually been on that very boat!

Let's also realize that this could (and does) happen to any outboard if you beat it hard enough in rough water. Not saying this is what happened here, but this would not have happened from casual cruising.

[Brian Harden]

That's not the first Verado I've seen with a broken clamp bracket.
Maybe the shrimp is just trying to return to the bottom of the ocean:eek::D:thumbsup:

[flabum1017]

The clamp bracket did not break......... and it happened at 40 MPH in calm waters..... we hauled it out and supported the motor until the guys from Midnight came to take it away...... The motor was ok,,,,, no water ingestion, infact there was no visible damage. It did damage the motor next to it with it's prop... took a chunck out of the cav plate.
The motor was through bolted to a plate to get it higher and the plate had studs welded to it to attach it to the transom. there were no through bolts directly holding the motor onto the transom. The studs sheared right at the plate and the motor was left dangling off one remaining stud and the tie-bar.

[1BadAction]

Junk.


That's not the first Verado I've seen with a broken clamp bracket.
Maybe the shrimp is just trying to return to the bottom of the ocean:eek::D:thumbsup:

Yea ok :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: You Jap motor nutswingers are so cute when you hate on the king.

[Cp]

....The motor was through bolted to a plate to get it higher and the plate had studs welded to it to attach it to the transom. there were no through bolts directly holding the motor onto the transom.

Must have had the better welder work on the port side???? Geeesh... I think I saw this done on a Skater once...

[BeefKid]

Ha that blows!!!

[Brian Harden]

:rolleyes:
Yea ok :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: You Jap motor nutswingers are so cute when you hate on the king.

Hey, I'm no Merc hater. I am a Merc dealer too and I run them on all my Allisons. I hope Merc comes out with something great, but I don't think you will find many to call the Verado a great success. :rolleyes:

That particular application is no different than a Allison/STV/Mirage with a drag motor: sh*t is going to break no matter what engine brand is hanging on the back. :cheers::)

[300x Stoker]

Look at all the ones that didn't fall off. :D

[Tom Foley]

I'd like to see a close up pic of that plate deal .

[Instigator]

I'd like to see a close up pic of that plate deal .

I remember calling on a similar style boat builder when Midnight Express had just started rigging quads on their boats.
Told the builder I thought that was cool. He bust's out laughing (used to work for them) and said they did that because they're such pigs that they wouldn't run with triples!
Said his boat of identical size would smoke one with 1 less motor:cool:

[EASY MONEY]

If Tom build the plate it may have held on I mean I proably only had 575 lbs of dead weight on it turning 7600 rpms pushing 14,700 lbs boat with 1675 lps of thrust at the prop equates to around 1,776 pound per sq. inch at the given fastning point

[LaveyT]

Wow, I've actually been on that very boat!

Let's also realize that this could (and does) happen to any outboard if you beat it hard enough in rough water. Not saying this is what happened here, but this would not have happened from casual cruising.


casual cruising;) With 5 outboards on the transom:D
Dats funny

[AirRide]

I remember calling on a similar style boat builder when Midnight Express had just started rigging quads on their boats.
Told the builder I thought that was cool. He bust's out laughing (used to work for them) and said they did that because they're such pigs that they wouldn't run with triples!
Said his boat of identical size would smoke one with 1 less motor:cool:Where was that, Blackfin, or?

[baja200merk]

I remember calling on a similar style boat builder when Midnight Express had just started rigging quads on their boats.
Told the builder I thought that was cool. He bust's out laughing (used to work for them) and said they did that because they're such pigs that they wouldn't run with triples!
Said his boat of identical size would smoke one with 1 less motor:cool:

it probably would smoke one wit less motor but wouldnt be able to follow one through real "chit" with out coming apart first:nonod:

Big wave dave (MCracing) used to build midnight express and he told me yes they are heavy but the boats are built to be bullet proof. The boats will take more of a beating then your body can handle, seriously, think about it. Or just go ask his son who he used to make test the boats needless to say he was crippled after the "test" they dont call him big wave dave for nothing:thumbsup:

i guess that boats a midn-ight-expr now:D

my cousin cracked 2 trim/transom brackets on the 38 fountain he fishes tournaments with. I never saw them or the extent of the crack but the merc reps at the biloxi (sp?) tournament told him they had never seen them crack. when i first saw this pic i figured they cracked, guess not.

[1BadAction]

I don't think you will find many to call the Verado a great success.

Maybe not, but the ones that do call them a success are all of their owners, which are the only ones who matter. Everyone else is just a hater, yamaha sack rider, or a crybaby pissed at merc for making a 4s. I'm sure I come off like a dick, but honestly I'm tired of listening to their BS. "Wahh wahhh, merc made a big bad 4 stroke, they are complicated, they are heavy boo hoo, I might need to actually learn something instead of sitting on my ass and getting paid to work on the same old motors" :rolleyes:

http://www.oceanpromotions.com/post_images/gs09_copter_13.jpg

That was taken at Grove slam, the same day one of those junk yamahas broke off their clamp bracket. :D http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4091/fuma1.gif

Nope, not alot of happy owners with verados in S FL http://endlessimagery.smugmug.com/gallery/8078776_REmpV

[blkmtrfan]

http://reelboating.com/flibs/midnight04.jpg


http://reelboating.com/flibs/midnight06.jpg

[baja200merk]

im CRYING LAUGHIN IN THE MIDDLE OF CLASS http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/crying.gif

[blkmtrfan]

It has jackplates as well

http://www.thehulltruth.com/attachments/miami-boat-show/65726-midnight-express-2009-2-408-.jpg

http://www.thehulltruth.com/attachments/miami-boat-show/65732-midnight-express-2009-2-414-.jpg

http://www.thehulltruth.com/attachments/miami-boat-show/65735-midnight-express-2009-2-417-.jpg

[baja200merk]

those stainless marine gorilla jacks seem strong, mine was great. Those plates use studs did the stud broke out of the plate they had on the transom or did the studs coming out of the jackplate break?

[OJwerks]

^^ a drug trafficker's dream..lol

[specboatops]

There is NOTHING wrong with that motor, that motor wanted to know why the hell he was slowing down, figured there must be something in front of em....so he tried to take a peek and got caught:D;)

Chris

[flabum1017]

There were no jack plates on this boat. three of the motors were bolted directly to the transom, the two outer motors were bolted to a 1/2" plate that had 1/2" S/S studs welded to the plate. The studs went through the transom and had washers and nuts securing it. There was no actual through bolts holding the plates that held the two outer motors on. They were relying on the the weld attachment at the plate. Any good welder will tell you the pitfalls of a hot weld.......................

[Powerplay25]

http://i48.tinypic.com/2mq2o1i.jpg

[native2]

I have tripple 300 Verados on a 38 fountain with over 1000 hrs. Fishing kingfish tournys I have launched it 6 ft in the air too many times to count.... I have popped a couple of gearcases but otherwise no big probs.

While fishing these tournys I have seen a couple of v8 yamis come off the clamp bracket. I have also seen many E tecs busted as well. They are all good motors, but if you beat on them, they all will break.

I like the Verados... It just took me a while to understand how they work. Also, with the exception of rebuilding a powerhead, they are pretty easy to work on.

BTW. It seems that most people who pick on the Verados are the same people who still think its a V6.... They just dont understand them!!!!!!!!!

[blkmtrfan]

There were no jack plates on this boat. three of the motors were bolted directly to the transom, the two outer motors were bolted to a 1/2" plate that had 1/2" S/S studs welded to the plate. The studs went through the transom and had washers and nuts securing it. There was no actual through bolts holding the plates that held the two outer motors on. They were relying on the the weld attachment at the plate. Any good welder will tell you the pitfalls of a hot weld.......................


So they must have changed the rigging from the Maimi Boat show (where the above pics came from)

[Markus]

Yea ok :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: You Jap motor nutswingers are so cute when you hate on the king.

The SHO has arrived. The Verado is no longer the king. I guess you could call it the big black queen... :eek:

[1BadAction]

The SHO has arrived. The Verado is no longer the king. I guess you could call it the big black queen... :eek:

Hey, I'm happy for them actually releasing a motor that actually makes its rated HP. congrats, its still 100+hp short.

Everyone knows your kind automatically hates anything american. Keep grasping at that straw, nutswinger. http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8965/stirthepott.gif

[AirRide]

I have tripple 300 Verados on a 38 fountain with over 1000 hrs. Fishing kingfish tournys I have launched it 6 ft in the air too many times to count.... I have popped a couple of gearcases but otherwise no big probs.

While fishing these tournys I have seen a couple of v8 yamis come off the clamp bracket. I have also seen many E tecs busted as well. They are all good motors, but if you beat on them, they all will break.

I like the Verados... It just took me a while to understand how they work. Also, with the exception of rebuilding a powerhead, they are pretty easy to work on.

BTW. It seems that most people who pick on the Verados are the same people who still think its a V6.... They just dont understand them!!!!!!!!!
Couldn't agree with you more...;)

[mackeral5]

gotta love wintertime in the northern hemisphere, seems like most every thread turns into a "my favorite manufacture is better than yours and your favorite manufacture sux" thread......insults and all.

why can't we all just get along?????:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

[TR450]

Fu#$ that more fun to do this:D:eek:

[Superbender]

:iagree:
Fu#$ that more fun to do this:D:eek:

[props4u2]

As much as I dislike the thought of 4 stroke heavy outboards I must say the Verado's are very impressive performance wise and have certinaly proved themselves on the offshore fishing rigs. My hat's off to Yamaha if they even come close to the performance and durability the Verado's have shown.


Lee

[Markus]

Hey, I'm happy for them actually releasing a motor that actually makes its rated HP.


If you had been watching, you would have known that Yamaha has been pushing the hp envelope since the 220 Special back in 1984. ;)



congrats, its still 100+hp short.


The SHO tops out at 300 hp and (Yamaha´s own) test results show that it way outperforms the 300 hp Verado. It is 100+ pounds short of the 300 hp Verado, though.

If you are into heavy 350 hp monsters, there is a V8 for that. :thumbsup:

[1BadAction]

Yamahas tests. Real impressive source. I bet Hitler would tell you how nice of a guy he was too.

If you had been watching, you would have known that Yamaha has been pushing the hp envelope since the 220 Special back in 1984. ;)

Funny, none of those still around, except for the scap yard at my local marine surplus yard. I thought that Yamahahahaha junk was supposed to be reliable? :thumbsup: :rolleyes:

[DoktorC]

Funny, none of those still around, except for the scap yard at my local marine surplus yard. I thought that Yamahahahaha junk was supposed to be reliable? :thumbsup: :rolleyes:

There's one on the back of my boat....it's never been apart either. How's your boat run? :)

[XstreamVking]

I am at the launch ramp often and see a lot of boats starting up and running out for the day... See lots of yammahahahas goin back on the trailer and back to the service dept. People cussin them and leaving mad as hell...Some wont start at all and some wont go faster than the engine guard will let em....Mercs are more reliable.... Have happier owners too... BTW, have you been watching the history channel's WWII in hd?? After seeing that, who could support such a heinous country as japan??

[1BadAction]

There's one on the back of my boat....it's never been apart either. How's your boat run? :)

Real impressive feat. Maybe with another 10 years of 6 weekend long seasons, and you'll have the same run time as I do in 1 year. :rolleyes:

My boat runs great, the little old 2.0L 85' XR2 starts day in day out, and still turns 6100 anytime I put my foot to the floor. Decals are a little faded from all the time it spends in the sun though.

[gofasts16]

There's one on the back of my boat....it's never been apart either. How's your boat run? :)


My life depends on my Verado's making it home . when your yamaha dies you can drift for a little while until you hit land !!

[mrcrsr]

If you had been watching, you would have known that Yamaha has been pushing the hp envelope since the 220 Special back in 1984. ;)



The SHO tops out at 300 hp and (Yamaha´s own) test results show that it way outperforms the 300 hp Verado. It is 100+ pounds short of the 300 hp Verado, though.

If you are into heavy 350 hp monsters, there is a V8 for that. :thumbsup: too bad they had to steal the powerhead design from omc and the gearcase design from merc, i remember them having to pay both companies for their plagiarism there!

[AirRide]

Wait till you see Yamaha's new line-up of engines for 2010. You will be very impressed with their new lightweight 4-stroke larger engines. They are dropping quite a few large motors, and replacing them with all-new technology based powerheads. The 350 V-8 is going the way of the do-do bird.

[mackeral5]

"too bad they had to steal the powerhead design from omc and the gearcase design from merc"


at least they were smart enough that they didn't copy omc nor merc ignition/charging systems:D:D

[Capt.Insane-o]

who could support such a heinous country as japan??

Obviously you have'nt looked at the componentry under the cowl of these so called "american" motors.

[flabum1017]

Obviously you have'nt looked at the componentry under the cowl of these so called "american" motors.

Nor the newer American cars.......

[hydrostream1]

If yamas are so great then how come I see mostly mercury power on the back of most of the center consoles?Also all of the go fast boats?in florida.Just wait until you have to rebuild those yamas,goood luck getting them apart after the fastners break off even if you use heat on them,the strength off the fastners are made of silly putty,oh I forgot,their throw aways just like the other china/jap junk made.Try not to run them in saltwater.At least mercs and omc I can usually get the nuts or bolts out ,using a little heat without everyone twisting off.

[mackeral5]

you've got a hell of a point on the fasteners.......especially exhaust plate and water jacket bolts on an old saltwater motor...