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WATERWINGS
11-14-2009, 11:35 AM
I haven't......

How do I go about attaching this trim bracket to the hoses I already have coming from my boat and my trim pump??

WATERWINGS
11-14-2009, 11:39 AM
Hmmmm what happende to the picture??

Lets try again.......

Bruster
11-14-2009, 12:27 PM
Parker and others make a hydraulic compression fitting coupler that will work. Cut the steel line in 1/2 and re-assemble using the coupler.

WATERWINGS
11-14-2009, 12:38 PM
Parker and others make a hydraulic compression fitting coupler that will work. Cut the steel line in 1/2 and re-assemble using the coupler.

Do I need to flair the tube, or does the kit take care of that without flairing?

Got any contact info?

jphii
11-14-2009, 12:49 PM
Go over to Piston & Ring and tell them what you have. They, in turn, will sell you what you need. No flare, the fitting does it.

WATERWINGS
11-14-2009, 01:49 PM
Its the kind with the compression fitting, where you put the little doughnut on after the threaded part, then tighten it down....kinda like a brass gas line?

Bruster
11-14-2009, 02:07 PM
Just like- only it's hydraulic rated. The important thing is getting them tightened up properly. Usually there is a gap to maintain between the nut and fitting that you tighten to.


Its the kind with the compression fitting, where you put the little doughnut on after the threaded part, then tighten it down....kinda like a brass gas line?

WATERWINGS
11-14-2009, 02:11 PM
:thumbsup: cool....so I just tell them the diameter of the tubeing, and that it is hyd, (any particular pressure rating?), and they will be able to look up what I need?

I guess I will need one of those little tubeing cutters that you tighen as you turn it around the tube?

whatsamerc??
11-14-2009, 02:14 PM
Just like- only it's hydraulic rated. The important thing is getting them tightened up properly. Usually there is a gap to maintain between the nut and fitting that you tighten to.

when you insert the tube in the fitting tighten the nut about one and a quarter turns from hand tight. make sure the feral is in there right ..............benji

jphii
11-14-2009, 02:15 PM
Yea, you will need a little tubing cutter. 5 bucks at Lowes.

whatsamerc??
11-14-2009, 02:17 PM
:thumbsup: cool....so I just tell them the diameter of the tubeing, and that it is hyd, (any particular pressure rating?), and they will be able to look up what I need?

I guess I will need one of those little tubeing cutters that you tighen as you turn it around the tube?

thats the best way but you can cut it with a saw and dress the edges with a fine file. i would be careful not to get any shavings in the line though.......

Bruster
11-14-2009, 03:15 PM
I think the 1/4" hydraulic fitting is rated at 8,000 PSI.

Probably depends on who's fitting you use. Seems like I remember hand tight and then something. I had to look on the Parker website, it's 1-3/4turns. Thats takes about 300 ft/lbs of pull on a 2" tube. The 1/4" isn't so bad. If you check with "Hoser" he will know just what you need if you don't have anything local or easy.:thumbsup:

Oh, yah.... NEVER cut hydraulic tubing with a hack saw unless you have some way to be 100% sure nothing is left behind. 1 metal filing will ruin a hydraulic componet. A $5 micro tubing cutter works perfectly. Good addition to the tool box.


when you insert the tube in the fitting tighten the nut about one and a quarter turns from hand tight. make sure the feral is in there right ..............benji

WATERWINGS
11-18-2009, 12:52 PM
How hard is it to take the lines off at the cylinder?

I have other trim brackets that I could steal the lines off of......

It looks like they are really hidden up in there, but If I clould just switch the lines out, I could save myself some work and money?

dez nuts
11-19-2009, 07:43 AM
How hard is it to take the lines off at the cylinder?

I have other trim brackets that I could steal the lines off of......

It looks like they are really hidden up in there, but If I clould just switch the lines out, I could save myself some work and money?The lines will come out easy if you can pull the motor up into the trimed up position you will see there are small 5/16 headed screws that hold the hose;s in place remove them and take the lines off the ran and slide the old one;s out and slide your new ones in and screm then in and you are done very simple task then you can use your exisiting lines in you boat. Dave:thumbsup:

tlwjkw
11-19-2009, 08:23 AM
Just courious. Are you usin' tha old clamp bracket? If you are and haven't noticed tha bolt pattern is gonna be different............

One other way that we've done was ta use tha Thru Bolts (that are used ta mount tha motor that go with that old style clamp) as couplings on tha outside of tha boat. Ty-rap (zip-tie) to tha jack plate outta site. Actually looked a lot better than it sounds.................

AirRide
11-19-2009, 09:42 AM
Just courious. Are you usin' tha old clamp bracket? If you are and haven't noticed tha bolt pattern is gonna be different............

One other way that we've done was ta use tha Thru Bolts (that are used ta mount tha motor that go with that old style clamp) as couplings on tha outside of tha boat. Ty-rap (zip-tie) to tha jack plate outta site. Actually looked a lot better than it sounds.................Does Mercury still sell those bolts? thanx

WATERWINGS
11-19-2009, 10:05 AM
Just courious. Are you usin' tha old clamp bracket? If you are and haven't noticed tha bolt pattern is gonna be different............

One other way that we've done was ta use tha Thru Bolts (that are used ta mount tha motor that go with that old style clamp) as couplings on tha outside of tha boat. Ty-rap (zip-tie) to tha jack plate outta site. Actually looked a lot better than it sounds.................




I am really confused now.....are you saying the bolt pattern on the clamp bracket with the one piece hoses will not fit the bolt pattern on my jackplate that I am using now?

I totally couldn't follow the last part about zip ties.....:confused:

dez nuts
11-19-2009, 08:32 PM
I am really confused now.....are you saying the bolt pattern on the clamp bracket with the one piece hoses will not fit the bolt pattern on my jackplate that I am using now?

I totally couldn't follow the last part about zip ties.....:confused:If the mid you are trying to bolt up is pre 1980 and your jackplate is the newer bolt pattern which it most likely is they will not bolt up the pre 1980 mid has the old bolt pattern after 1980 has the newer and current bolt pattern take a pic of the mid you want to use and we will tell you which one you have. Or easier yet does the mid you want to use have a single ran trim if so it will bolt up that will be the newer bolt pattern Hope that helps Dave:thumbsup:

tlwjkw
11-19-2009, 08:41 PM
Tha bolt holes on tha older clamp line up almost straight up and down. tha newer bolts holes are offset just a little.............

Might be hard ta find AirRide.

pcrussell50
11-22-2009, 01:40 AM
Its the kind with the compression fitting, where you put the little doughnut on

in car racing we call it "the olive". fwiw and all, yo.

in fact, if you have the time and interest, it might be worth your while to make your own hoses, with AN fittings throughout. once again, in car racing that's what you'd do. i'm new to boats so i can't say for sure, but i'd sure be tempted myself.

-peter

WATERWINGS
11-22-2009, 09:39 AM
Tha bolt holes on tha older clamp line up almost straight up and down. tha newer bolts holes are offset just a little.............

Might be hard ta find AirRide.

I went out and measured the last clamp I had on the 'Shot, and measured the one with the one piece hoses, and they measure the same.

I will still take some pics of each to show ya'll what I am working with.


[/QUOTE]Might be hard ta find AirRide.[/QUOTE]


Whaa?

AirRide
11-24-2009, 09:38 AM
Might be hard ta find AirRide.
I found a brand-new pair(2) of these Merc V-6 lower hydraulic bolts...what should they be worth? thanx

WATERWINGS
11-24-2009, 10:14 AM
Are those the ones that the hyd hoses screwed to and the bolt itself was what the fluid passed thru?

I have/had a pair of those......

AirRide
11-24-2009, 08:53 PM
Those be them. Circa 1976.:)

pcrussell50
11-24-2009, 08:56 PM
in auto racing those are called banjo bolts, and the lollipop ends on the hose are called banjos.

this is a banjo
http://www.mgcycle.com/images/atrex/600803.jpg

this is a banjo bolt
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31FsMhmCyKL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

-peter