whats wrong with Plasma T V 's?

[mr fun]

in the market, plasma's are like 250.00 cheaper than LCDs, why? 5 yr ago we bought a new style projection 43" samsung, the bulb burnt out, changed the bulb and the fan starts grinding noise,,, :( it's only 5 freikin years old!!! so replacement seems ineveatable, LCD or plasma, a few yrs ago all you herd was plasma this and plasma that, what up? :confused: I can get a 50" plasma for 748.00

[hotdaddy27]

LCD's were supposed to put Plasmas out of business years ago...

I have both, the plasma is much heavier than the LCD and runs REALLY HOT. When you walk by the screen on the Plasma (63") you can feel the heat coming off of the screen. They say the heat causes a shorter life.

Also, the LCD has less "glare affect" from open shades/windows.

Overall, I like them both, but most say that the LCD is the way to go.

I think that the above reasons are why th Plasma is cheaper.

Good luck.

HD

[mr fun]

this is what I'm lookin for, real experince :thumbsup:

[sunapeeboater]

Plasma is much more likely to have burn in on the screen. Dont waste your money. LCD definately the way to go. Samsung still #1

[stvhelm]

just from experience using these screens with cctv systems i noticed the plasma screens will burn lines in the screen way before a lcd will and if you have any characters displayed on your tv then those will eventually leave marks too. I think over all the plasma has a better pic. On plasma you'll notice the black shows up as black not gray like the lcd. now if you really want good pic then get a LED tv :smiletest: but i dont have any long term results on that yet.

[ChrisM]

Plasmas also suck a lot more juice from the outlet you plug it into

[VectorPat]

I have a 58 panasonic plasma and a 32 vizio lcd. The plasma has a much better picture. I have had it for 2 yrs and it doesnt show any signs of burn-in. They say that was more common with the original ones. Yeah it does put off some heat and the light by my couch does dim alittle when the set turns on so it draws some juice. At the time i bought it an LCD this size of this was thousands more so thats what made my decision. When it dies tho I will be looking at the new LEDs

[vnemous]

Plasma have changed alot in the past two years. THey run much cooler now are as light as LCD and no longer burn in. If they do from a video game it goes away in a cople of days. My new Plasma has a 2000000 million to 1 contrast raitio and it has much better black than a lcd. Plenty of new info on the internet.

[hotdaddy27]

this is what I'm lookin for, real experince :thumbsup:

The next debate will be Brand..lol

I have had good luck with Vizio, and from what I understand there is some American Employees tied to the brand (probably just the engineering or something:rolleyes:)

My Dad had a LG (LCD) that burned out in about 2 months, so the Plasma burning out thing is like anything else. If it is a lemon, it is a lemon regardless of brand/type. He has a Panasonic now and it is a nice TV as well

The Vizio also saved me a great deal of $$$.

Good luck.:thumbsup:

[Scream And Fly]

I have a Hitachi Ultravision plasma and I bought it because I felt the image quality was better than LCD. I think plasma TVs offer better and faster refresh, which is good for action movies and colors look better on plasma. LCD TVs are great too, but I gotta say I love my plasma.

[sunapeeboater]

To hell with tv's I just have the actors right in my room. Doesnt get any clearer than that:D

[Bsprout]

I have a sharp lcd. no complaints here:cheers:

[D.B.S]

I've had a panasonic plasma for 3yrs, no problems.

[SPRKY01]

I also have a 60" hitachi ultravision I did a great deal of homework and love my plasma quality. Also have a 47" vizio very good quality cant beat the price also a 32" vizio.

[jphii]

I can get a 50" plasma for 748.00

1080P? Where?

[vnemous]

1080P? Where?
More than likely 1080i for that price. If your far enough away you wouldn't know the diff between i and p. For the money the i is the best buy especially if your cable company doesnt transmit a p signal.

[Sonik]

Back in my poor college days when I used to work part time for a small, high-end A/V store, I spent alot of time haggling over the lcd / plasma debate. I own 2 LG products right now...a 50 plasma and a 32 LCD. The burn-in references made earlier are still a plasma idiosyncrasy although most platforms have a menu option to flood the panel with high-contrast "white" light. This option removes any burn in you might end up with from idling on a DVD start screen or video gaming. I have, as of yet, after 3 years with my 720P 50" to ever see any burn-in or ghosting for more than 5-10 seconds after I jump into a program or DVD....and that has only happened twice when leaving the TV on all day using dish network sirius music channels (those who have Dish Network know the screen saver I'm talking about). Newer panels may be better, I don't know.

All in all, I think plasmas still have a better contrast ratio than LCD (blacker blacks and brighter color contrasts). Yes they do put off more heat but that is simply a function of the plasma panel. Plasmas are rated in half-life hours...meaning the time it takes the TV to go from 100% to 50% brightness...which is a really big number FYI.

LCD's you have to worry about stuck pixels which can be really annoying and may or may not be a warranty item depending on the stuck color and location of said pixel.

You want to see a TV blow you away, go check out the new 240Hz sets playing a Blu-Ray or a true 1080p HD signal. Unbelievable clarity and zero chop / ghosting / screen rip in heavy pan-n-scan type movies. They're not cheap though so be prepared...

[mr fun]

Back in my poor college days when I used to work part time for a small, high-end A/V store, I spent alot of time haggling over the lcd / plasma debate. I own 2 LG products right now...a 50 plasma and a 32 LCD. The burn-in references made earlier are still a plasma idiosyncrasy although most platforms have a menu option to flood the panel with high-contrast "white" light. This option removes any burn in you might end up with from idling on a DVD start screen or video gaming. I have, as of yet, after 3 years with my 720P 50" to ever see any burn-in or ghosting for more than 5-10 seconds after I jump into a program or DVD....and that has only happened twice when leaving the TV on all day using dish network sirius music channels (those who have Dish Network know the screen saver I'm talking about). Newer panels may be better, I don't know.

All in all, I think plasmas still have a better contrast ratio than LCD (blacker blacks and brighter color contrasts). Yes they do put off more heat but that is simply a function of the plasma panel. Plasmas are rated in half-life hours...meaning the time it takes the TV to go from 100% to 50% brightness...which is a really big number FYI.

LCD's you have to worry about stuck pixels which can be really annoying and may or may not be a warranty item depending on the stuck color and location of said pixel.

You want to see a TV blow you away, go check out the new 240Hz sets playing a Blu-Ray or a true 1080p HD signal. Unbelievable clarity and zero chop / ghosting / screen rip in heavy pan-n-scan type movies. They're not cheap though so be prepared...

that by far was the most informational moment I've had recently :thumbsup: and thanks plill, tee heee I know he hates that, the "i" or the "p" is of question at present.

[mustang1175]

If I hang one over my fireplace, is one type better than the other? I usually light a fire 10-20times/yr, or whenever the artic chill hits Florida.

[JR IN JAX]

The new LEDs use 40% less energy which means 40%x1.3 in heat rejection from your air conditioning [if you're in Florida]. Up North [above the Fl/Ga border] you need the heat before/after July.

The 240 HZ refresh rates are literally blurr-free too.

All three of my sets are LCD flat panels but my 47" Phillips is the weakest performer with my 1080i AT&T Uverse.

The Tech doing my Uverse install told me he could tell on the Plasmas what channel people watched from the burn-in on the screens to them.

[Action Dave]

To hell with tv's I just have the actors right in my room. Doesnt get any clearer than that:D


You get the Playboy channel at your place?:D

[Nasi]

The real question is how you are going to use it. Plasma's are great for low light tv rooms and studios as they do a better job of displaying black colors. LCD's are better for brightly lit rooms such as great rooms because they are brighter (compensates for all the ambient light). LCD's do a poor job of displaying blacks in low light conditions. Do you want to test this knowledge? Go to your local BestBuy and look at how the store sets up it's tv display area. All the LCD's will be under bright lights, while the plasmas will not be.

I have had two, 50" Vizio Plasmas for three years now and will not settle for anything less now. Once you've gone HD you won't go back, trust me. The shelf life of plasmas today is compatible to the old CRT's now. Most plasmas will last for 60K plus hours. That's six hours a day of TV for 15 years. You gonna watch that much! I hope not, there's a wonderful world out there. There is no worry of burn-in anymore either as technology has progressed greatly from plasmas of five years ago. Plasmas do run hotter! I would not use one inside of a cabinet as it will overheat and cause user error issues that would not be covered under any warranty. Mine hang on the wall.

TIP: Remember, to get HD you must match the signal chain from start to finish. Source > Transmission > Output. It will not be HD if this setup is not used.

[CDave]

Here's more info for y'all.
http://www.crutchfield.com/learn/learningcenter/home/tv_flatpanel.html
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Learn/Article/Menu.aspx?g=146350&tp=161

[Nasi]

Another tip: Look for real world info, not the paid touts......users will tell the tale, while tech reports give you all the specs you can tolerate..........Good luck in your quest.

[whipper]

One more thing to consider is if you can even take advantage of the resolution of the plasmas. Our local broad caster can only supply 1080 res to my area. If I wanted high Definition like a plasma has i would need a HD converted and even then not all shows display that high of Resolution. To the naked eye 1080 is pretty darn good i would say. Mine looks so much like a Plasma most say I love the picture your Plasma puts out. Just last night as a matter of fact. Its not a plasma but an LCD.:D I love it for what it is and will last longer. I have 3 LCD and 1 52 projection all have no troubles ever. The LCD,s are 3 years old now and are on all the time. 1 Samsung and 2 Sharp. The Samsung is as good as Plasma in my opinion. Its very hard to tell the differance.

[mr fun]

what this hillbilly turned cracker has learned is HD is the blessing. to get true HD requires "special services" performed on your "local". 1080 being the highest form of HD available with reguards to "i" and "p". the lesser value, 780 or whatever, would be a downgrade from 1080 but possably undetectable in the transition from projection to plasma. :rolleyes: mmm, perhaps WTF oh, and the cool part is the LED 50" is,,, da ta daaaaaaaa, 3000.00 :nonod: my narrow white a$$ :cool: out

[wideglide55]

Lady in the Sears store talked me out of the LCD and into a Panasonic Plasma with 1,000,000/1 contrast ratio,high-def pic is breathtaking,never saw a single LCD that was even close.She said durability problems with them were solved a long time ago.

[halveb]

Both are good technology, I prefer Plasma since LCD sometimes has off axis viewing issues (better sets this is less the case). Panasonic is one of the more reliable plasmas you can get too.

As far as I and P this refers to the scanning method (interlaced and progressive). Interlaced scanning was developed when the original tv standard was defined and they discovered that the human eye couldn't detect any difference when only seeing half of the picture in rapid succession. Since they could only broadcast a certain amount of information in the given analog frequency, they split a tv picture into two frames one with even lines and one with odd lines and broadcast each separately. A progressive scan shows all lines of the picture drawn in the same frame (this is the method computers have always used and is also the reason that when you see a picture of a computer monitor on your tv it looks weird like the screen is going out of whack).

Current HD digital broadcast standards (ATSC) allow for 1080i or 720p. There is a lot of debate as to which is better but in a nutshell a static 1080i picture shows more detail but a sports program with a lot of action on a 720p will show less motion blur as a result of the progressive scan.

1080p is only applicable to Blu Ray disks and I don't believe any satellite or cable company is offering 1080p in their service. For the money (or at any price) the best looking tv signal you will get is the one that is free and comes right through a good old fashioned antenna (you don't need a fancy new HD antenna since the broadcast signal is still picked up the same way it always was) often a pair of rabbit ears will suffice if you're close enough to the tower.