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afr
09-21-2009, 10:08 AM
2 1/2 layers you never know what it is till you rip it out
this was a good trick while it lasted they foamed in the outside corners with no glass on the back side of the wood

OFFSHORE GINGER
09-21-2009, 11:41 AM
2 1/2 layers you never know what it is till you rip it out
this was a good trick while it lasted they foamed in the outside corners with no glass on the back side of the wood To bad that there is always sombody trying to cut conners even a manufaturer but........................... the good thing is from the l@@k of things it wont take much to tear the old wood out!

afr
09-21-2009, 11:52 AM
its out thats just what didnt come with it

OFFSHORE GINGER
09-21-2009, 12:09 PM
its out thats just what didnt come with itCool must have came out very easy and you gotta love it when things go good .

afr
09-21-2009, 12:16 PM
well with right bfh not many of um hold me up to long

patrickirelan
09-21-2009, 02:14 PM
What exactly holds a transom fixed like that in place? I mean, no glass at all on the back, or was there an interior skin and they'd just "dropped" the transom in through the top? Surely foam isn't strong enough to hold anything - was it purely the outer skin bolted through the transom and engine mounting?
In which case, I'm going to do mine like that - sounds dead quick and easy.:D

patrickirelan
09-21-2009, 02:17 PM
Or maybe I'm thinking wrong - when you say it was 2 1/2 layers, do you mean the original transom, plus another one thrown on top, and another half thickness thrown on top of that? Either way, looks like a slightly ropey job - hope I find something like that when I tear mine apart.:eek:

afr
09-21-2009, 04:08 PM
What exactly holds a transom fixed like that in place? I mean, no glass at all on the back, or was there an interior skin and they'd just "dropped" the transom in through the top? Surely foam isn't strong enough to hold anything - was it purely the outer skin bolted through the transom and engine mounting?
In which case, I'm going to do mine like that - sounds dead quick and easy.:D
no they laminated 2 layers of 1/2 plywood in there but never glassed the back side of the outside two corners cause the corners are not flush so they filled it with foam before the cap went on they could have just glassed it then foamed it (lazy short cut) to make it look good on the outside
anyways thats what lead to its demize and rotted but i also found they plugged a few holes later on in its life time with dowel rods and they leaked and help get the rot going being on the repair end i always get to see why and what went wrong
i have seen far worse over the years

patrickirelan
09-21-2009, 05:46 PM
I'm not even going to check my transom now, may as well rip it out and replace... too many bodgers around.

patrickirelan
09-21-2009, 05:54 PM
Hmm. My transom seems sound, but as it is just finished with CSM maybe I should knock that off and replace it anyway. I have plenty of blunt chainsaw chains to mince up any nasty wood! The more I read here, the more paranoid I get...

1fastg3
09-21-2009, 07:44 PM
We got Pictures.............I cant wait to see more ... I dont think the boat Was ever rebuilt ? But Anything Can Happen .. Looks Great ... Do you want to do a 20 Talon ?

afr
09-21-2009, 07:52 PM
We got Pictures.............I cant wait to see more ... I dont think the boat Was ever rebuilt ? But Anything Can Happen .. Looks Great ... Do you want to do a 20 Talon ?
sure why not but i want a give it a trial run when its done
email some pictures of it

j90
09-21-2009, 08:03 PM
I wish I was better at posting photos. I just picked up a boat that had the floor fomed in and then bondo was used to glass over the foam. It looks like he also fomed in the transom. I have not gotten to that yet. It amazes me all the back yard mechanics that should stick to their day jobs; then again they probable suck at that job also.

robert jordan
09-22-2009, 05:00 PM
Hey AFR, What kind of boat is that?

afr
09-22-2009, 07:02 PM
i think its a motion but i think its title is a action

1fastg3
09-24-2009, 08:22 PM
what Happen to the Pics ?

afr
09-25-2009, 07:17 AM
here ya go a few more i had to build a few other things first
:D

afr
09-29-2009, 12:19 PM
update

OFFSHORE GINGER
09-29-2009, 03:57 PM
here ya go a few more i had to build a few other things first
:D What is that in the first pic a deck stretcher ? :rolleyes: ha ha ha :cool:

afr
09-29-2009, 04:16 PM
What is that in the first pic a deck stetcher ? :rolleyes: ha ha ha :cool: :D:D
bawahahahahaa it looks like a hangin there dont it lol
its a rag laying there lolol i dont care who you are thats funny

:eek:
:thumbsup:

OFFSHORE GINGER
09-29-2009, 04:48 PM
:D:D
bawahahahahaa it looks like a hangin there dont it lol
its a rag laying there lolol i dont care who you are thats funny

:eek:
:thumbsup: When i first started out at Thompson Boat's well over thirty years ago doing repair ,i was sent out do get a deck stretcher for the mateing department and what a dummy i was ............ oh well ha ha ha ha .

afr
09-29-2009, 05:03 PM
lol back in the day they told me to go get a radius roller
i was gone about a half hour





and i came back with a tennis ball and a hand made roller frame
works like a charm

OFFSHORE GINGER
09-29-2009, 05:55 PM
lol back in the day they told me to go get a radius roller
i was gone about a half hour





and i came back with a tennis ball and a hand made roller frame
works like a charmha ha ha ha , good one and i bet if we ever got together we sure would have a bundle of stories to tell .

afr
09-29-2009, 06:48 PM
yea life is like a box of fiberglass you never know whats in it till you bring it out

lol

1fastg3
09-29-2009, 07:06 PM
How Is Biz Over there ? You guys Picking up at all ? Boat Looks Good .. How thick are you going on the transome ..I want to Runn a 225 or 250 But I cant get me hands on one yet....Hey Want I nice New Big shiney tool box ?

afr
09-30-2009, 11:57 AM
we are holding our own right now 1 3/4

1fastg3
09-30-2009, 07:29 PM
Looking sweet .... I guess It better then Not doing anything.. I willl send More work over there

afr
10-12-2009, 02:20 PM
heres some more

OFFSHORE GINGER
10-12-2009, 03:25 PM
heres some moreJust curious are you going to roll over the edges ( sand ) before you do your layup on the stringers so the glass will layup on a nice rounded edge or has that already been done because the edges on top of the stringers look pretty sharp .

afr
10-12-2009, 03:31 PM
no flat glassing the deck in place good ?

afr
10-13-2009, 04:22 PM
decks in

1fastg3
10-13-2009, 08:48 PM
Is it to Late to Get you to Fill in the Little runners on the Side Near the Floor ?

afr
10-20-2009, 02:23 PM
yea its to late for that but here we go wont be long ill be on to the paint

:thumbsup:

1fastg3
10-20-2009, 07:33 PM
damn the Slash Well and Dash are done ? your fast

albypine
10-20-2009, 07:38 PM
arf if you dont mind,what would a job like that cost?

albypine
10-20-2009, 07:41 PM
afr.... sorry i get a lil backwards at times. i have a 90 virge that needs glass work. and trying to get an idea in what its going to cost me

afr
10-21-2009, 05:29 AM
each one is a little differant depending on mutipal factors
but if i had to average it out i would say around 40 to 55 hours materials run just a bit more then wood this build took three sheets from the core and stringers up the transom takes one sheet of 3/4 or in this case a half a sheet of 1 1/2 coosa
its a lot a work and you got to really bust your to stay under 55 hours

afr
10-22-2009, 09:12 AM
blisters on one side not good im going to bust um open and glass um up
we are going to have to keep a eye on this one side see if anything else come up

1fastg3
10-23-2009, 08:48 PM
Where Is the Hole In the Back for the Blige ?

Do what you can on the blisters I know you will make it look great....

afr
10-24-2009, 07:26 AM
bildge hole ,we / i have not cut it out yet ,blisters yea im letting um dry out for a few days ill straighten them out monday

1fastg3
11-05-2009, 03:58 PM
any pics or updates

What about the Bench where the Seats sit and the Hot foot Box ?

afr
11-05-2009, 06:05 PM
nothing new the blister,s had to dry out looks like its good and dry now i did glass them back up yesterday i got a few more things to touch up and the bottom is ready for primer

you didnt call me yesterday ??

1fastg3
11-05-2009, 09:52 PM
What about the Bench where the Seats sit and the Hot foot Box ?

Need more Money ?

afr
11-06-2009, 05:51 AM
a foot brace and two seat boxes will go in like i did on big Q,s stream
yea i need to get the new lifting eyes for the back

prolinews
11-07-2009, 06:59 PM
what oz matt did you put on the sole topside?

afr
11-07-2009, 07:11 PM
what oz matt did you put on the sole topside?
one 24 oz woven roven {aka fatt matt } and one 2.0 oz chopped stran matt /14 lb density core

afr
11-09-2009, 02:07 PM
yo billy
moving along now after i repaired a few blisters could be one shows up later on down the road that just didnt come up yet you will just have to keep a eye on the bottom for anything that might let water get back into it and delaminate it

tunnels
11-09-2009, 04:05 PM
blisters on one side not good im going to bust um open and glass um up
we are going to have to keep a eye on this one side see if anything else come up

In your view what caused the blisters ??and they are only on one side ??:confused: Blisters or bubbles ?:(

afr
11-09-2009, 04:51 PM
the gel cote is old and crazed & blistered from what i can tell its a saltwater boat that had been used quite a bit

1fastg3
11-11-2009, 08:01 PM
Hey That Ant My Boat LoL.... I have a Lime Green And Black Bottom LoL ...

Looking Good... I Hope All Is well Over there..Maybe By The End Of the Month I can Pick It up ? Or Not NO RUSH NO BIG DEAL .... Still Have To get a tag on the trailer .... I have Court over there Monday At 8 am again

Do forget That New Rub rail just tell me What The Difference is Alum ? ..Or whatever you want

afr
11-11-2009, 08:32 PM
cool so you coming by ,,,i might have the bottom painted tomorrow or monday ,but its still got a good ways to go yet once its right side up again ,,dont worry about picking out a rub rail yet ill sit down with ya and help ya pick out the parts ,thats the easiest thing i do is help spending other peoples money

1fastg3
11-11-2009, 09:07 PM
I hate Stopping in on you like that ... as far as Money Hell I dont have any ..you took it all LoL

afr
11-12-2009, 07:17 AM
no problem swing on by shoot youll be right here, money i didnt get it yet if you sent it to the shop it will come back to ya i dont have a mail box here

1fastg3
11-12-2009, 09:11 PM
Post So Pics up Take a Lot Let see whats going on

afr
11-12-2009, 09:25 PM
nothing new to post yet i been long boarding the bottom i was going to paint it today but i just never got to it

afr
11-17-2009, 10:15 AM
super jet black

Gorilla0178
11-17-2009, 03:25 PM
Looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD!!!!

tunnels
11-17-2009, 04:20 PM
super jet black

WOW A HOT BOAT !! HOPE IT HASNT GOT TO MUCH FILLER IN IT ANYWHERE BECAUSE IT COULD ALL SHOW UP WHEN ITS BEEN IN THE SUN FOR A WHILE . :confused:
sun = heat = shrinkage = print through = oh dear where did that come from !!:(

afr
11-17-2009, 06:07 PM
WOW A HOT BOAT !! HOPE IT HASNT GOT TO MUCH FILLER IN IT ANYWHERE BECAUSE IT COULD ALL SHOW UP WHEN ITS BEEN IN THE SUN FOR A WHILE . :confused:
sun = heat = shrinkage = print through = oh dear where did that come from !!:(


lol did you forget who you where talking to there for a minute there tunnels must a been a senior moment hu
the black hulls dont get that hot when there right side up
lol

thanks gorrila its good soild 9 + out of a 0-10 scale

Steve 1
11-17-2009, 06:42 PM
Scott looks nice keep the photos coming!:thumbsup:

afr
11-17-2009, 06:53 PM
steve once this project is done im not going to post anymore projects
and im retiring in 2015 if my daughter wants the company ill turn it over to her

Steve 1
11-17-2009, 07:19 PM
steve once this project is done im not going to post anymore projects
and im retiring in 2015 if my daughter wants the company ill turn it over to her
That is way Cool guy Best Regards.

1fastg3
11-17-2009, 07:37 PM
Damn That Is Hot ... I cant stop drooling over the Pics ... That thing Shine's Like a $#%%@# A$$

Oh Wait Oh My God ( Thats's My Boat) So You guy Do work Over there LoL Take some More pics

tunnels
11-17-2009, 08:43 PM
lol did you forget who you where talking to there for a minute there tunnels must a been a senior moment hu
the black hulls dont get that hot when there right side up
lol

thanks gorrila its good soild 9 + out of a 0-10 scale

Yeah i know what you are getting at but they do get hotter than light colors . :cheers:

1fastg3
12-01-2009, 06:57 PM
I want to see more Bad A$$ Paint job

1fastg3
12-08-2009, 06:43 PM
any updates

afr
12-08-2009, 06:47 PM
i dont see anymore blisters so so far so good
i got to order you some lifting eyes yet to flip it back over

KonaKustoms
12-11-2009, 02:00 PM
Nice!!

1fastg3
12-16-2009, 09:30 PM
so whats new

afr
12-16-2009, 09:35 PM
the inside of the gunnels are all galssed and fixed from the back side the the hull and cap joint is glassed and the splash well is glassed under neith il hit that all with some gel while its still upside down then it can go back over anytime after that drys

1fastg3
12-27-2009, 11:23 AM
no pics yet ?

1fastg3
02-13-2010, 06:04 PM
whats the green looking like ?

afr
02-13-2010, 07:20 PM
i didnt get as far as i thought i would due to weather conditions
ill update you with pic,s on monday

Quinten
02-15-2010, 09:07 PM
Lookin good Scott!

afr
02-16-2010, 03:38 PM
sportin some primer now
:thumbsup:
im glad you are in no hurry and i didnt finish it up before chrismas like i was going to and like i should have now with the cold weather its slowing progress a little

1fastg3
02-16-2010, 08:01 PM
Hey ...It is what it is ... No big rush ... I would like to have it back .. Just make it look good .. Take all the time you want .. Just cant want to see that green ..

afr
03-03-2010, 11:14 AM
got the green on even dieing on saturday didnt stop me
:thumbsup: thank God for modern technology
its just not my time to go yet

1BadAction
03-03-2010, 07:33 PM
Man I like that freakin green. :thumbsup:

1fastg3
03-03-2010, 07:52 PM
Looks Great .... And Hey You cant Say I stressed you out LoL .. Take your time

afr
03-03-2010, 08:02 PM
Looks Great .... And Hey You cant Say I stressed you out LoL .. Take your time

nah noway Billy dont think that for a minute
i never get stress from work just from lifes little bs curve balls and some people that come around from time to time but it all reality its the parts they put in there dont hold up
im working on getting it fixed right this time me and the doc are going to have a long talk and im not leaving his office till i get what i want done no comprimise do it or ill find another doctor i want those crap parts out and thats it its already taking me down three times

Brabender
03-03-2010, 10:02 PM
AFR U gonna b ok?

nice job

1fastg3
03-04-2010, 12:21 AM
Cant wait to see that Black.. It should Set that Green Off

afr
03-04-2010, 08:08 AM
AFR U gonna b ok?

nice job
yes i think so but the parts dont seem to last very long and then im back in for a rebuild

Gorilla0178
03-04-2010, 08:20 AM
Looks so good, I cant wait till I get mine painted. More pics????

71Stinger
03-04-2010, 10:07 AM
Maybe I missed it, but what paint products did you use?
Dupont Imron,
PPG Deltron?

afr
03-04-2010, 10:16 AM
Maybe I missed it, but what paint products did you use?
Dupont Imron,
PPG Deltron? all those and more but mainly awl grip

afr
03-05-2010, 03:12 PM
rockin baybay action

:thumbsup:

Brabender
03-05-2010, 03:44 PM
Great Job:thumbsup:

1fastg3
03-05-2010, 07:45 PM
I love It what do you think Scott??????

afr
03-05-2010, 08:52 PM
i love it now let me put some seats and stuff in it soon

samari
03-05-2010, 11:52 PM
Looks good Scott, I like the colors.

1fastg3
03-06-2010, 07:25 PM
Whats Left ?

afr
03-06-2010, 08:37 PM
Whats Left ?
color sand and clear cote
:D

Brabender
03-16-2010, 03:03 PM
any update?

afr
03-16-2010, 03:28 PM
we getiing ready to do the interior

1fastg3
03-16-2010, 05:41 PM
Did you even Pin strip it ? How Is she Looking

afr
03-27-2010, 07:01 AM
no
seats are comming most of the stiching is done

OFFSHORE GINGER
03-27-2010, 10:57 AM
no
seats are comming most of the stiching is doneLooking good and seen your add on Dragboat alley .

1fastg3
03-28-2010, 08:46 PM
Looking good man

afr
03-29-2010, 07:21 AM
Looking good man
thanks
its nice having my seats done in house now
talk to you later dude

afr
03-30-2010, 08:20 PM
[QUOTE=xb03fs;1939035]my experience with KonaKustoms, hopefully things will work out just so tied of the lies:

i dont have anything to do with konakustoms whos thats and whats this got to do with this resto project

afr
03-31-2010, 05:51 AM
sorry being stupid, was posting links to threads he had posted on, going to give one more day and make a real post
no problem i was like who / what
so what happen with kon-ya kustoms

afr
03-31-2010, 02:18 PM
heres a update

1fastg3
03-31-2010, 06:32 PM
Looking good Man .. Can wait to See it

DS77
04-02-2010, 02:26 AM
great looking work & boat AFR i can see you aint sceard ot get after it ,hope all goes well with check-up. Peace Bro steve

afr
04-02-2010, 04:46 AM
thanks steve i didnt make it for a check up yet maybe if im lucky i can get that off the list

afr
04-06-2010, 01:54 PM
finally ready to bolt and go

Hot Shot Merc
04-06-2010, 02:22 PM
Looks great Scot. I have the same boat I am about to start complete resto on. I bought that shell Bernard had for sale. Good Job:thumbsup:

afr
04-06-2010, 02:47 PM
mines a light one it should be around 5/600 at best
good luck with yours rob if you need anything let me know
scott

1fastg3
04-06-2010, 06:17 PM
Scott you are the Man ...Thats What I wanted

northeastcat
04-07-2010, 11:10 PM
Damn Scott, that is some sweet work !!!!

When you did the transome did you cut out the splash well to get to it?

afr
04-08-2010, 06:55 AM
Damn Scott, that is some sweet work !!!!

When you did the transome did you cut out the splash well to get to it?
yes cause we raised the well up to flush